[END] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game

[miranda920]

Here I'll give you some updated reads, although not too much has changed

Genny - neutral, I'm not saying to give Genny the benefit of the doubt but she really could go one way or the other
Mayo - town, I don't see mayo outing a packmate this late in the game
MR7 - town, for reasons I've already specified
Nate - leaning town now, I feel better about Nate a gut feeling
Santy - I'm still putting santy as town, but Santy is a great wold
SAR - leans town, but that's only because I am inherently biased
Dennis - neutral
Mac - I'm not sure on mac anymore, their reads feel kind of all over the place
Neon - feels town
SVS - I want to look at you more closely
Seanzie - leaning more wolf as I don't feel they have given much
Sloonei - seems fine

[VOTE: seanzie] aubergine

with that I am off to dinner, don't expect to hear back from me anytime soon

So you think all the SDN folk are town, or leaning town? Me Mac, and Sean are your wolf leans?

That’s not what I said. I said Sean was a wolf lean, I said I wanted to look closer at you and I wasn’t sure about Mac.

[SARdoghandler]

Somewhere @Mayo the Mayo I think you asked for my updated reads but I can't remember if ti was you for sure or not but anyway, here. This is still leaning largely on finding the (hopefully) last werecreature and will require re-eval once we're looking for a second scum faction

Mac
Mayo

Miranda
MR7
Sloonei
Dennis

SVS
Neon
Nate

Seanzie
genny
Santy

Tell me why you think Miranda is town?

Also, iirc, didn't Nate claim broadcaster? Are you thinking that's a wolf role?

Mayo said this (which I had also missed earlier) thinking that the original Wolf NK target was someone else, someone who maybe didn't die, and not Marmot at all. Which recasts the whole thing in a different light.

2nd to last information on last night.


I was pretty sure there was a wolf between Lawpy/Genny/Marmot. Lawpy for all of the reasons I've already shared.

I figured if I were picking who to make the NK, it would be Lawpy. He was the least suspected to that point and therefore would be the least likely to be blocked or tracked.

I redirected Lawpy night action onto Marmot

Marmot died

I asked Lawpy about what he did and he fumbled through the fruit vendor claim

He said nothing about his real role or the fact that he was acted upon last night

I already thought he was a wolf, but that pushed me over the edge

Yes Nate claimed broadcaster, I don't feel that's AI. He hasn't felt as involved as towny Nate's I've seen in the past so he's not as high on my reads as a result.

Miranda is lean town for me based on tone. I know that's weak but on SDN we have noob games where we pair new players with mentors, so I am her "mother" if you will so feel I have an inside understanding of her thought processes and I don't feel she's played enough games to accurately recreate that as a woof (yet). Last game we both played as town I defended her similarly and was correct. However, not fool proof because I'd have to go back and check to see if I've actually played a wolf game with her (terrible self referential memory). @miranda920 have I played when you woofed yet?

Re: kill choice on the Marmot/PSV night. Good to be reminded of that, thank you. If we have serious doubts about PSV being the potential Were kill then I can't clear someone from being in that faction

[miranda920]

Somewhere @Mayo the Mayo I think you asked for my updated reads but I can't remember if ti was you for sure or not but anyway, here. This is still leaning largely on finding the (hopefully) last werecreature and will require re-eval once we're looking for a second scum faction

Mac
Mayo

Miranda
MR7
Sloonei
Dennis

SVS
Neon
Nate

Seanzie
genny
Santy

Tell me why you think Miranda is town?

Also, iirc, didn't Nate claim broadcaster? Are you thinking that's a wolf role?

Mayo said this (which I had also missed earlier) thinking that the original Wolf NK target was someone else, someone who maybe didn't die, and not Marmot at all. Which recasts the whole thing in a different light.

2nd to last information on last night.


I was pretty sure there was a wolf between Lawpy/Genny/Marmot. Lawpy for all of the reasons I've already shared.

I figured if I were picking who to make the NK, it would be Lawpy. He was the least suspected to that point and therefore would be the least likely to be blocked or tracked.

I redirected Lawpy night action onto Marmot

Marmot died

I asked Lawpy about what he did and he fumbled through the fruit vendor claim

He said nothing about his real role or the fact that he was acted upon last night

I already thought he was a wolf, but that pushed me over the edge

Yes Nate claimed broadcaster, I don't feel that's AI. He hasn't felt as involved as towny Nate's I've seen in the past so he's not as high on my reads as a result.

Miranda is lean town for me based on tone. I know that's weak but on SDN we have noob games where we pair new players with mentors, so I am her "mother" if you will so feel I have an inside understanding of her thought processes and I don't feel she's played enough games to accurately recreate that as a woof (yet). Last game we both played as town I defended her similarly and was correct. However, not fool proof because I'd have to go back and check to see if I've actually played a wolf game with her (terrible self referential memory). @miranda920 have I played when you woofed yet?

Re: kill choice on the Marmot/PSV night. Good to be reminded of that, thank you. If we have serious doubts about PSV being the potential Were kill then I can't clear someone from being in that faction

You haven’t, I’ve only woofed in the FE game

[SARdoghandler]

[VOTE: Mightyrunner7] aubergine

Tell me about MR7.

Just kinda sussy.

Anything specific? I felt like he was saying village things but with a scummy tone on D1 but have let VCA with wolves slide him village again

[S~V~S]

Miranda is lean town for me based on tone. I know that's weak but on SDN we have noob games where we pair new players with mentors, so I am her "mother" if you will so feel I have an inside understanding of her thought processes and I don't feel she's played enough games to accurately recreate that as a woof (yet). Last game we both played as town I defended her similarly and was correct. However, not fool proof because I'd have to go back and check to see if I've actually played a wolf game with her (terrible self referential memory). @miranda920 have I played when you woofed yet?

In your home culture, if a paired nub subsequently fools you is that considered an accomplishment for them?

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Mightyrunner7] aubergine

Tell me about MR7.

Just kinda sussy.

I need to get my head screwed on the right way, so if you can give me a little more than that, I'd appreciate it.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Mightyrunner7] aubergine

Tell me about MR7.

Just kinda sussy.

Anything specific? I felt like he was saying village things but with a scummy tone on D1 but have let VCA with wolves slide him village again

Has tapered off as wolves have died. Doesn't feel like they're trying to push the gamestate forward anymore.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Mightyrunner7] aubergine

Tell me about MR7.

Just kinda sussy.

I need to get my head screwed on the right way, so if you can give me a little more than that, I'd appreciate it.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

[SARdoghandler]

Miranda is lean town for me based on tone. I know that's weak but on SDN we have noob games where we pair new players with mentors, so I am her "mother" if you will so feel I have an inside understanding of her thought processes and I don't feel she's played enough games to accurately recreate that as a woof (yet). Last game we both played as town I defended her similarly and was correct. However, not fool proof because I'd have to go back and check to see if I've actually played a wolf game with her (terrible self referential memory). @miranda920 have I played when you woofed yet?

In your home culture, if a paired nub subsequently fools you is that considered an accomplishment for them?

Eventually, yes. It would also be a proud mother moment

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Well, yay for only one kill, maybe Tutuu got a save last night. Or maybe the 1 or 2 shots ran out of shots.

2nd to last information on last night.


I was pretty sure there was a wolf between Lawpy/Genny/Marmot. Lawpy for all of the reasons I've already shared.

I figured if I were picking who to make the NK, it would be Lawpy. He was the least suspected to that point and therefore would be the least likely to be blocked or tracked.

I redirected Lawpy night action onto Marmot

Marmot died

I asked Lawpy about what he did and he fumbled through the fruit vendor claim

He said nothing about his real role or the fact that he was acted upon last night

I already thought he was a wolf, but that pushed me over the edge

While searching Tutus posts, I ran into this Mayo post she quoted, and I had totally missed this before. I was struggling a bit with the Marmot kill, I didn't understand it. Although marmot was also janitored, so I find that confusing. Would the janitoring move with the kill? Becasue Lawpy was a poisoner. But I'm not used to playing with Janitors, where I came up we didn't flip NKs, so why have Janitors?

In any case, before Tutuu moved onto Lawpy, she had voted for Genny, and had her pretty consistently at the bottom of her list. Also Sean. So I plan to read them today, and ignore all that OMGUS up there ^^^ You all win a trophy for awesomely catching baddies, K?



So I'm gonna drop a vote on Miranda, cause guys, she's waffly, evasive and bad. In before Neon starts yelling at me about how a day one vote from a posited teammate makes her town; in Cosmere, I voted for my teammate Falcon on Day 1 for distancing, and got stuck in traffic and couldn't move my vote in time and he was yeeted. A day one vote from Creature that he didn't even stay on clears no one.

[VOTE: Miranda] aubergine

Miranda is town

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So am I supposed to ignore the fact that Dennis knows for a fact Mac was healed?

Cause like nobody seems to have acknowledged that at all

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Also I'm here out of obligation. I wish someone world please murder me so I could not be here out of obligation anymore

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm having fun but God I can't devote the time and energy to this game it deserves

[santygrass]

Oh okay, that was a quick read
So uhmmm

[santygrass]

[VOTE: genny] aubergine

@SARdoghandler why I am a wolf? And why you have me at your bottom but vote Seanzie?

[Mayo the Mayo]

Somewhere @Mayo the Mayo I think you asked for my updated reads but I can't remember if ti was you for sure or not but anyway, here. This is still leaning largely on finding the (hopefully) last werecreature and will require re-eval once we're looking for a second scum faction

Mac
Mayo

Miranda
MR7
Sloonei
Dennis

SVS
Neon
Nate

Seanzie
genny
Santy

Thank you

[NateTheLesser]

@Dennis - did you know yesterday that tutuu visited Mac?

[SARdoghandler]

[VOTE: genny] aubergine

@SARdoghandler why I am a wolf? And why you have me at your bottom but vote Seanzie?

No order within categories.

You've just felt different than how I've seen you village before. More confrontational than collaborational when looking at thread state as a whole. It's a weaker reasoning, which is why I'm not voting you today and going for Seanzie instead because I have more points than just tone for that one

[santygrass]

[VOTE: genny] aubergine

@SARdoghandler why I am a wolf? And why you have me at your bottom but vote Seanzie?

No order within categories.

You've just felt different than how I've seen you village before. More confrontational than collaborational when looking at thread state as a whole. It's a weaker reasoning, which is why I'm not voting you today and going for Seanzie instead because I have more points than just tone for that one

That is... A weird look to have on my gams ngl.

And also like, D2 I was the definition of what you sre telling here, its only now that I tuned a new leaf and wanted to snap Mac's neck in two.

(I still want to do it but not with the same urgency so shhh),

[santygrass]

So am I supposed to ignore the fact that Dennis knows for a fact Mac was healed?

Cause like nobody seems to have acknowledged that at all

Also, don't fully get why that would be worth pointing out?

Like, if they had mech on it its kinda alright to not reveal it?
Moreso if they were a tracker/watcher and only know that because of tuutu flip now?

I think asking Dennis for more details here is not a good po8nt of discussion unless im missing something

[Dennis]

AAAAAAAAH I FORGOT ABOUT THIS GAME

[Dennis]

I think we kill seanzie because 1. It would be fucking hilarious and 2. He's not town probably

Actually no...

I really do want you to speak for youself. Share your thoughts on me, Dennis. Why do you think I'm not town?

Honestly mostly sheeping mac and tutuu reads cause those have been epic so far

But I think town Seanzie would be in here typing 17 page essays in response to every message rather than just commenting on the slow thread

[Dennis]

Question for the group - do we feel that Marmot or PSV was the more likely Werecreature faction kill on N2? A general discussion around this may help me potentially eliminate candidates from the were-creature pool for reasons

PSV, because both SVS and I were pushing marmot pretty hard

[Dennis]

So am I supposed to ignore the fact that Dennis knows for a fact Mac was healed?

Cause like nobody seems to have acknowledged that at all

What is there to acknowledge

[Dennis]

@Dennis - did you know yesterday that tutuu visited Mac?

I know tutuu healed mac n2. That's all I'm saying

[Dennis]

Alrighty SVS is really convincing me here on miranda

The more I look now the more it's bad. Like the reads list where she scumread only 1 person (sean, a relatively easy person to fake suspicion) and was kinda shifting about with SVS and Mac

But this is a relatively new suspicion for me so I'm gonna put this on the stove and let simmer for a little while (pay more attention going forward) and [VOTE: genny] aubergine

[miranda920]

Here I'll give you some updated reads, although not too much has changed

Genny - neutral, I'm not saying to give Genny the benefit of the doubt but she really could go one way or the other
Mayo - town, I don't see mayo outing a packmate this late in the game
MR7 - town, for reasons I've already specified
Nate - leaning town now, I feel better about Nate a gut feeling
Santy - I'm still putting santy as town, but Santy is a great wold
SAR - leans town, but that's only because I am inherently biased
Dennis - neutral
Mac - I'm not sure on mac anymore, their reads feel kind of all over the place
Neon - feels town
SVS - I want to look at you more closely
Seanzie - leaning more wolf as I don't feel they have given much
Sloonei - seems fine

[VOTE: seanzie] aubergine

with that I am off to dinner, don't expect to hear back from me anytime soon

Okay ask me stuff

Eh I actually do feel fine about you in reflection, momentary lapse of judgement

I see you feel like SVS, Dennis, and neon are townie, but you aren’t sure
What makes you hesitate?

[miranda920]

Hey Santy. How bout this.

I will continue to solve the game. You give me another day, maybe two, maybe three. I'll self resolve cuz I'm town, probably casually flip a couple more non town along the way, and you can stop embarrassing yourself. Deal?

Lol I love the sass here

[miranda920]

Hardclaiming mac was not poisoned, he was protected

Explain poetically pls

Tutuu protected him

tutuu was a regular doctor with night protections. Mac claimed to be poisoned, which would have flipped him at the end of the day yesterday.

This is quite possibly the worst poem I've ever read

My bad I got you

Tutuu was doctor
She protected mac n2
Mac was not poisoned

Am I missing something? How do you know all this?

[NateTheLesser]

it somehow didn't occur to me until now that Wilgy was actually a doctor.

[NateTheLesser]

@Dennis - did you know yesterday that tutuu visited Mac?

I know tutuu healed mac n2. That's all I'm saying

Yeah I'm just wondering which pieces of that you knew yesterday.

[Dennis]

@Dennis - did you know yesterday that tutuu visited Mac?

I know tutuu healed mac n2. That's all I'm saying

Yeah I'm just wondering which pieces of that you knew yesterday.

OH

Yes I did

[Dennis]

Hardclaiming mac was not poisoned, he was protected

Explain poetically pls

Tutuu protected him

tutuu was a regular doctor with night protections. Mac claimed to be poisoned, which would have flipped him at the end of the day yesterday.

This is quite possibly the worst poem I've ever read

My bad I got you

Tutuu was doctor
She protected mac n2
Mac was not poisoned

Am I missing something? How do you know all this?

its a SeeEEecRreett...

[NateTheLesser]

@Dennis - did you know yesterday that tutuu visited Mac?

I know tutuu healed mac n2. That's all I'm saying

Yeah I'm just wondering which pieces of that you knew yesterday.

OH

Yes I did

Oh. All of it, or was tutuu being a doctor a missing piece?

[santygrass]

@Dennis - did you know yesterday that tutuu visited Mac?

I know tutuu healed mac n2. That's all I'm saying

Yeah I'm just wondering which pieces of that you knew yesterday.

OH

Yes I did

Oh. All of it, or was tutuu being a doctor a missing piece?

Isn't this almost asking them.to claim? This is semi-open setup. I think the moment they reveal that its kinda like claiming ?

(I did not fully read the list in detail but on the grand schem I think answering this shorten the options too much)

[santygrass]

Like Nate, if they knew that or not.

How would you feel about each scenario? @NateTheLesser

[Dennis]

@Dennis - did you know yesterday that tutuu visited Mac?

I know tutuu healed mac n2. That's all I'm saying

Yeah I'm just wondering which pieces of that you knew yesterday.

OH

Yes I did

Oh. All of it, or was tutuu being a doctor a missing piece?

Your rolefishing is cute, if you want to know my role you can just ask

Yes I needed tutuu's flip

[Dennis]

Maybe I shouldn't have answered that

[santygrass]

Maybe I shouldn't have answered that

I think it was unnecesary, yeah

[santygrass]

Dennis are you up to bounce thought?

Think I need to work on my reads more since I have them a bit shaky rn.

[Dennis]

Dennis are you up to bounce thought?

Think I need to work on my reads more since I have them a bit shaky rn.

Sure, I love wall ball

What would you like to talk about

[santygrass]

From Syndicate I feel good about Neon , SVS and you.
Mulling over Sloonei. Also Mac tho I think its v likely for them to be scum.

Seanzie rn its such a null and I get why someone would scumread that, but fmpov the wagon they have on them rn spews them town. But I think this is a bad reason to clear on this state so I have them on hold

[santygrass]

Mostly help with your input in Sloonei / Mac / Seanzie.

I think Seanzie might be the one we need to focus if its misyeet bait pushed by wolves or we are the ones doing a dumb mistake ignoring a wolf and voting and afk/lhf in genny

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Mightyrunner7] aubergine

Tell me about MR7.

Just kinda sussy.

I need to get my head screwed on the right way, so if you can give me a little more than that, I'd appreciate it.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

helpful.

[Seanzie]

I think we kill seanzie because 1. It would be fucking hilarious and 2. He's not town probably

Actually no...

I really do want you to speak for youself. Share your thoughts on me, Dennis. Why do you think I'm not town?

Honestly mostly sheeping mac and tutuu reads cause those have been epic so far

But I think town Seanzie would be in here typing 17 page essays in response to every message rather than just commenting on the slow thread

uhh... what game have I ever even done anything close to that?

[Seanzie]

@Dennis - did you know yesterday that tutuu visited Mac?

I know tutuu healed mac n2. That's all I'm saying

Yeah I'm just wondering which pieces of that you knew yesterday.

OH

Yes I did

Oh. All of it, or was tutuu being a doctor a missing piece?

Your rolefishing is cute, if you want to know my role you can just ask

Yes I needed tutuu's flip

What's your role?

[Seanzie]

Mostly help with your input in Sloonei / Mac / Seanzie.

I think Seanzie might be the one we need to focus if its misyeet bait pushed by wolves or we are the ones doing a dumb mistake ignoring a wolf and voting and afk/lhf in genny

Why do you know I'm town and what do you want from me?

[santygrass]

Then from SDN . I think mayo is near Lock!Town rn. Blindly trusting.

Miranda i have my worries, don't think I have a wolfy catch or something, but just the play they been having its most likely to come from them as scum I think. Neon bluntly said they are town though, and I have other slots to worry so I'm okay leaving them for now.

Mighty I think the falcon vote+the insanity clear them from being werecreature. If there is another faction I don't know. Think their post near SoD were more likely from Mighty Villa. Them low posting is NAI , but like I sensed a sense of direction villa-aligned? Def have to reread here

SAR is flying by . Thats the better definition, I think their reads have very little nuance and are lazy more than not. But that doesn't necessarily make them a wolf so its a bit annoying smh

Nate I didn't like their recent questioning of you, bit I think thy had very good reads/nuance on read these oast days so I am leaning Villa atm? How do you think they approached you Dennis? Since if I recall correctly you were one of their main pushes through the game

[Seanzie]

Oh, the wagon on me is bigger than I thought. Y'all should probably rethink that.

[Seanzie]

Then from SDN . I think mayo is near Lock!Town rn. Blindly trusting.

Miranda i have my worries, don't think I have a wolfy catch or something, but just the play they been having its most likely to come from them as scum I think. Neon bluntly said they are town though, and I have other slots to worry so I'm okay leaving them for now.

Mighty I think the falcon vote+the insanity clear them from being werecreature. If there is another faction I don't know. Think their post near SoD were more likely from Mighty Villa. Them low posting is NAI , but like I sensed a sense of direction villa-aligned? Def have to reread here

SAR is flying by . Thats the better definition, I think their reads have very little nuance and are lazy more than not. But that doesn't necessarily make them a wolf so its a bit annoying smh

Nate I didn't like their recent questioning of you, bit I think thy had very good reads/nuance on read these oast days so I am leaning Villa atm? How do you think they approached you Dennis? Since if I recall correctly you were one of their main pushes through the game

Would SAR fake a tinfoil that they don't explain for a day as a wolf?