Delta wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:19 pm
i should probably learn from xan/sam being v/v last game but think theres a wolf in belzy/seanzie wheee
it came across like a TMI attempt while trying to show he is evaluating xan more carefully now. regardless of what he randed, he should've known to be more careful of xan this time around, but the way he's doing it makes me think it's coming from the wolf angle of feigning exploring the possibility of him being villa, but it's for the silliest of reasons, like the fact that he was wrong on a w/w callout last game. he's not even saying directly that xan could be a villa, but he brings up that just because last game he was wrong, this game might mean they are both villagers
it looks manufactured to me
and i've mentioned a lot of his pushes are based on "idk why you'd do this" where a villager would be curious to find out where the actions are coming from / motivation
re-read my case, i made it on him
i brought up the fact i was wrong about it last game because.. i was wrong about it last game? and i think im wrong again now considering that read was made at a point where belzy didnt even have their alignment & it was more towards w!seanzie when seanzie is like. fucking dead
there were moments where i hesitated slightly on xan but with his helltunnel i was at a point where like. theres no way he would be that stubborn as town because he shouldve learned from last game himself. he's been wrong about me twice now and i assumed if he was town he wouldve realised instead of doubling down this time around
as for my pushes, that is how i play as town. that doesnt mean im not curious about things at all? even if it doesnt come across that way. i dont know if it was because you were a wolf first rand and you randed town now or if youre just wolf again trying to spin a narrative but like. if its the former id get you not realising this since tmi or wtv. but you are the only one who has this idea that how im pushing is different to last game lol. this is how i solve as town.
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:05 am
@Belzy why zenon here?
Once Xan's lynch was set in stones, she moved her vote from Xan to Wilg without explanation, as well not engaging with the thread eod1. She prolly thinks Xan's lynched, I move elsewhere, and stay quiet. Most of d1 her vote was parked on Xan, which makes it all very fishy. Also, why not Zenon here?
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:04 am
@tutuu why do you think I would've died last night?
top poster + u werent scumread too much + u are making big posts that aren't trolling as required per standard
eh
i mean we had this issue the original rand right? where eod1 people got paranoid of me because i was being townread a lot yet felt like i was doing little. i dont see why i would ever die after xan flipped town though, considering i was the target of his deathtunnel for 48 hours.
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:05 am
@Belzy why zenon here?
Once Xan's lynch was set in stones, she moved her vote from Xan to Wilg without explanation, as well not engaging with the thread eod1. She prolly thinks Xan's lynched, I move elsewhere, and stay quiet. Most of d1 her vote was parked on Xan, which makes it all very fishy. Also, why not Zenon here?
oh yikes, i didnt pay too much attention to voting shifts tbh
plus i wont lie i did not do my homework overnight T_T but tyty
trying to overhaul my worldview considering xan was town & so was seanzie but its a struggle. so im mainly trying to work out who im least likely to have miscleared & try find points of interest on those who i have likely miscleared
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:05 am
@Belzy why zenon here?
Once Xan's lynch was set in stones, she moved her vote from Xan to Wilg without explanation, as well not engaging with the thread eod1. She prolly thinks Xan's lynched, I move elsewhere, and stay quiet. Most of d1 her vote was parked on Xan, which makes it all very fishy. Also, why not Zenon here?
oh yikes, i didnt pay too much attention to voting shifts tbh
plus i wont lie i did not do my homework overnight T_T but tyty
If someone like Zenon looka similar as any AI. You gotta take a look at voting patterns and eod's.
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:05 am
@Belzy why zenon here?
Once Xan's lynch was set in stones, she moved her vote from Xan to Wilg without explanation, as well not engaging with the thread eod1. She prolly thinks Xan's lynched, I move elsewhere, and stay quiet. Most of d1 her vote was parked on Xan, which makes it all very fishy. Also, why not Zenon here?
oh yikes, i didnt pay too much attention to voting shifts tbh
plus i wont lie i did not do my homework overnight T_T but tyty
If someone like Zenon looka similar as any AI. You gotta take a look at voting patterns and eod's.
yeah I get you
ill look into it in a bit and give my own thoughts since theres a few who have talked about zenon here
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:05 am
@Belzy why zenon here?
Once Xan's lynch was set in stones, she moved her vote from Xan to Wilg without explanation, as well not engaging with the thread eod1. She prolly thinks Xan's lynched, I move elsewhere, and stay quiet. Most of d1 her vote was parked on Xan, which makes it all very fishy. Also, why not Zenon here?
oh yikes, i didnt pay too much attention to voting shifts tbh
plus i wont lie i did not do my homework overnight T_T but tyty
If someone like Zenon looka similar as any AI. You gotta take a look at voting patterns and eod's.
yeah I get you
ill look into it in a bit and give my own thoughts since theres a few who have talked about zenon here
I am not the only one who felt wary of Zenon d1, and sometimes a gut can sense something the eyes cannot see yet. I look forward to your thoughts; how you would see Zenon's play so far.
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
I haven't read the game yet but have skimmed this page, and from what I gather, Belzy is the most likely to be scum out of anyone who's posted on it.
I'm doing yard work today but will be read up on the game this evening/tonight.
To expand a bit on what I mean with Belzy: the smart-ass "I don't understand 'not'" post rubbed me the wrong way and I wasn't enjoying their approach to Zenon before that, even. Beyond that it's just a lot of questions without much substance--asking other players to do work without offering much on their own. The analysis seems very surface-level so far. Otherwise they've been pushing a town slot in Zenon for the majority of the page and even put the burden of truth upon Zenon to 'prove' he wasn't wolfing. It read like a strongarm and as though Belzy is trying to both gain and utilize clout against an innocent player.
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:05 am
@Belzy why zenon here?
Once Xan's lynch was set in stones, she moved her vote from Xan to Wilg without explanation, as well not engaging with the thread eod1. She prolly thinks Xan's lynched, I move elsewhere, and stay quiet. Most of d1 her vote was parked on Xan, which makes it all very fishy. Also, why not Zenon here?
oh yikes, i didnt pay too much attention to voting shifts tbh
plus i wont lie i did not do my homework overnight T_T but tyty
If someone like Zenon looka similar as any AI. You gotta take a look at voting patterns and eod's.
yeah I get you
ill look into it in a bit and give my own thoughts since theres a few who have talked about zenon here
I am not the only one who felt wary of Zenon d1, and sometimes a gut can sense something the eyes cannot see yet. I look forward to your thoughts; how you would see Zenon's play so far.
aye aye captain o7
though im gonna delay this slightly and let 112 post a little
speaking of, hello hello friend o/
could you give me a rundown of how you play as town and wolf? even if just a sentence or two
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
with tutuu/112 being more yellowish/hazy than actual scumreads, struggling to find something that feels right to me right now. those lower down are more 'i want to hear more from them' than 'raaah wolf'. same for the tier above them. though ill speak to anyone really i feel like ive stumbled into today with no real gameplan.
i can explain any of these if anyone is interested?
also. i realise ive managed to have a completely alphabetical reads list. nice.
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:23 pm
my brain is currently structured at like:
belzy
drwilgy
esooa
epignosis
falcon
tedxtr
tutuu
112
with tutuu/112 being more yellowish/hazy than actual scumreads, struggling to find something that feels right to me right now. those lower down are more 'i want to hear more from them' than 'raaah wolf'. same for the tier above them. though ill speak to anyone really i feel like ive stumbled into today with no real gameplan.
i can explain any of these if anyone is interested?
also. i realise ive managed to have a completely alphabetical reads list. nice.
How am I possibly so high up on this list?
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:23 pm
my brain is currently structured at like:
belzy
drwilgy
esooa
epignosis
falcon
tedxtr
tutuu
112
with tutuu/112 being more yellowish/hazy than actual scumreads, struggling to find something that feels right to me right now. those lower down are more 'i want to hear more from them' than 'raaah wolf'. same for the tier above them. though ill speak to anyone really i feel like ive stumbled into today with no real gameplan.
i can explain any of these if anyone is interested?
also. i realise ive managed to have a completely alphabetical reads list. nice.
How am I possibly so high up on this list?
i think someone mentioned earlier that the kill being off your wagon meant that its probably to keep your wagon alive? and i want to put some trust into that because i have. 0 fucking clue how nka works :^)
the tiers are alphabetical rather than ranked, ideally out of you/belzy/esooa youd be the lower of the three because i have 0 semblance of your reads right now and trying to get your read on falcon d1 was like pulling teeth T_T
plus i kinda just didnt like the vote on you yesterday
even though the main wagon was town
so im kinda just biased against calling you wolf because it went against my own vote
even though i was wrong
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:23 pm
my brain is currently structured at like:
belzy
drwilgy
esooa
epignosis
falcon
tedxtr
tutuu
112
with tutuu/112 being more yellowish/hazy than actual scumreads, struggling to find something that feels right to me right now. those lower down are more 'i want to hear more from them' than 'raaah wolf'. same for the tier above them. though ill speak to anyone really i feel like ive stumbled into today with no real gameplan.
i can explain any of these if anyone is interested?
also. i realise ive managed to have a completely alphabetical reads list. nice.
How am I possibly so high up on this list?
i think someone mentioned earlier that the kill being off your wagon meant that its probably to keep your wagon alive? and i want to put some trust into that because i have. 0 fucking clue how nka works :^)
the tiers are alphabetical rather than ranked, ideally out of you/belzy/esooa youd be the lower of the three because i have 0 semblance of your reads right now and trying to get your read on falcon d1 was like pulling teeth T_T
i wanted my neat looking reads list
I mean, was it really like pulling teeth? I just wasn't around lol.
Falcon was very underwhelming early d1 and avoided me calling them out, which I normally attribute to their w gameplan.
However, their later posts put them back in their townrange.
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:23 pm
my brain is currently structured at like:
belzy
drwilgy
esooa
epignosis
falcon
tedxtr
tutuu
112
with tutuu/112 being more yellowish/hazy than actual scumreads, struggling to find something that feels right to me right now. those lower down are more 'i want to hear more from them' than 'raaah wolf'. same for the tier above them. though ill speak to anyone really i feel like ive stumbled into today with no real gameplan.
i can explain any of these if anyone is interested?
also. i realise ive managed to have a completely alphabetical reads list. nice.
How am I possibly so high up on this list?
i think someone mentioned earlier that the kill being off your wagon meant that its probably to keep your wagon alive? and i want to put some trust into that because i have. 0 fucking clue how nka works :^)
the tiers are alphabetical rather than ranked, ideally out of you/belzy/esooa youd be the lower of the three because i have 0 semblance of your reads right now and trying to get your read on falcon d1 was like pulling teeth T_T
i wanted my neat looking reads list
I mean, was it really like pulling teeth? I just wasn't around lol.
Falcon was very underwhelming early d1 and avoided me calling them out, which I normally attribute to their w gameplan.
However, their later posts put them back in their townrange.
to me yeah kinda
but i get you on not being around so no worries
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:29 pm
though speaking of your reads
..what are your reads wilgy?
Belzy town, Falcon town.
Those are the two ISO's I've been through.
Had a feeling that it was between Belzy/Falcon/Tutuu D1. Now I just think it's Tutuu. HOWEVER recent Zenonings have caught my attention and I need to look into this.
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Delta's somewhat of a mystery. There's a lot of personality in his posts and I'm not sure if it's genuine or an intentional effort to seem cute/non-intimidating.
112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:33 pm
Delta's somewhat of a mystery. There's a lot of personality in his posts and I'm not sure if it's genuine or an intentional effort to seem cute/non-intimidating.
this made me laugh thank you
me being cute is NAI, im just a little guy, its attributed to both my town game and my wolf game
though i am a little more assertive as a wolf? at least imo
Xanjori wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:27 am
I've decided to forgive some of you and soon we will form a band, a band of heroes in a half shell, turtle power!
Belzy:
d1
418 - disapproves of Xan's response to Falcon
420 - shouts wolf at Xan without real interaction
425 - Calls Xan wolf for what was a joke about Zenon
452 - Theorizes a Xan/Sean team
516 - shouts wolf at Zenon
552 - Theorizes a Xan/Epi team
630/633 - Finds Tutuu's actions wolfy
635 - Theorizes a Xan/Tutuu team
741 - Tutuu wolf because reads are not developing in spite of presence
843 - Evaluates Wilg
d2
911 - Zenon wolf call
912 - Tutuu eod1 towny
995 - lynch order list
Belzy's most likely town. I do think that the suspicion on Xan was not iterated as much as I'd like to be comfortable saying it came from a town, BUT the work Belzy did looking to alternate players to either vote or align with the Xan read seems like it's coming from a towny place.
I am curious about the current Tutuu read as Tutuu was called towny in 912, but was put 2nd to the top of the yeetables in 995.
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Belzy:
d1
418 - disapproves of Xan's response to Falcon
420 - shouts wolf at Xan without real interaction
425 - Calls Xan wolf for what was a joke about Zenon
452 - Theorizes a Xan/Sean team
516 - shouts wolf at Zenon
552 - Theorizes a Xan/Epi team
630/633 - Finds Tutuu's actions wolfy
635 - Theorizes a Xan/Tutuu team
741 - Tutuu wolf because reads are not developing in spite of presence
843 - Evaluates Wilg
d2
911 - Zenon wolf call
912 - Tutuu eod1 towny
995 - lynch order list
Belzy's most likely town. I do think that the suspicion on Xan was not iterated as much as I'd like to be comfortable saying it came from a town, BUT the work Belzy did looking to alternate players to either vote or align with the Xan read seems like it's coming from a towny place.
I am curious about the current Tutuu read as Tutuu was called towny in 912, but was put 2nd to the top of the yeetables in 995.
part of why tutuu was called towny by belzy was due to their eod iirc?
wondering what you think of this since im kinda iffy on tutuu's eod myself looking back
not a full iso to do its just a few quotes
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:02 pm
I really dont think Im being bussed
oh
RERAND
RERAND
RERAND
TAKE IT BACK
REWIND
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:08 pm
if xan town:
1 wolf between woogerz/ted
2nd wolf in sean/falcon
pls dont ask me why im honestly just saying random names. well not rly but. just wingin it
the first quote from xan i took as an admission of guilt. confbias goes hard. but to immediately jump to 'oh omg he was town rerand it' & the whole 'yeahh lets rerand if hes town' leans slightly performative imo?
and then later on immediately jumping to starting to solve on v!xan preflip off of that one quote felt extreme.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
