Cyberpunk Mafia [Town Wins]

[Spacedaisy]

ugh, I was looking at the final votes.

Nook: Belzy, Caitlin, Porscha, Spacedaisy
pyxxy: tutuu, Wilgy, Lime Coke, splints
HK: Seanzie, nook
Tutuu: pyxxy
Kate: Roxy
Baker/Lime Coke: falcon

Ok, if wolf, pyxxy could have self pres voted, but they didn't. I really think it's likely this was v/v.

HK was voted by two known civs, this doesn't tell us anything about HK's alignment.

If that's true, then neither wagon can be exclusively focused upon. I would be willing to bet, in fact, that there is two wolves at most on either of these wagons. I am heavily leaning Kate wolf right now as a missing vote. I doubt it was intentional, I don't question that something was happening in real life, but I didn't care for her first entrance and I cared even less for her entrance today.

Ok, so where does that leave me?

I'm leaning town on:
Lime Coke, Caitlin, Roxy (this one is weak, I'd still like to hear more from her), pyxxy.

Uncertain on:
Splints, Wilgy, HK, falcon, tutuu, Porscha

I'm leaning wolf on:
Kate

I'm going to look at that uncertain group in ISOs. I should be honest here though, I'm not convinced of anything, which is why they are all "lean" instead of just a read. I make no promises I won't change my mind along the way lol.

Sound reasoning means she made an argument that was thought out, not that I agree with it.
Also, when have you known me to hide as a baddie?

I don’t think you are hiding. I think the reasoning that you bought was too easy and far from the kind of play any old school player would make. Would you kill the person giving you the hardest wolf read? Would SVS? Would Roxy? Not a chance. My being bad here makes no sense, particularly to those who came up like the old schoolers. I can buy people who haven’t played with me for over a decade thinking maybe I did, but not you.

I think you are a wolf who hasn’t had time to engage and took some easy shots that I can’t buy you normally would as a civ.

[Porscha]

pyxxy
tutuu
Caitlin

Porscha
Roxy
falcon45ca

Kate
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
DrWilgy

Belzy

hollowkatt
Spacedaisy

fingersplints

baker

Fingersplits was someone I had a hard time sorting GTH so I looked at their ISO. The majority of their posts are NAI posts about Kate being a LHF while never actually taking a stance on Kate. Their push on Pyxxy I think is picking at something that is that level -1 type of scummy that comes from town as often (maybe more often) than scum, and their post about me is starkly contrasted with my own self-perception right now. I actually had them slightly higher when I started writing this, but I moved them down halfway through this paragraph.

Belzy is focusing almost exclusively on me, and I don't like that. I'm not sure if they're slightly below null entirely because of OMGUS, but I definitely want to see them actually... do things that aren't just parrot their read of me over and over again.

Porscha I didn't feel the best about putting them there. I usually find them relatively quickly, and honestly while I think they are closer to town than wolf here, I don't feel confident about that, and that worries me.

we should be sheeping

You know damn well sean was killed cuz he was universally tr and his reads dont matter

Porscha town

Because Porscha said Sean's reads don't matter? Really?

Because porscha wasn’t interested in just taking the easy road.

Do you mind explaining what the easy road is here?

[Spacedaisy]

well i think kate and hkatt are both town now. definitely hkatt

I don’t know HK well enough to know what this exchange says about them, but I don’t think this is AI of Kate. This is her reacting to the way someone was speaking to her, and I think you’d get that no matter her alignment.

[tutuu]

well i think kate and hkatt are both town now. definitely hkatt

I don’t know HK well enough to know what this exchange says about them, but I don’t think this is AI of Kate. This is her reacting to the way someone was speaking to her, and I think you’d get that no matter her alignment.

sure, probably

[Spacedaisy]

well i think kate and hkatt are both town now. definitely hkatt

Omg really??

people dont allow themselves to go that far as mafia. as town yeah, not as mafia. not that far

Let's bet on it. A friendly bet. This is in no way snark or mean and ily.

This is the first town feeling I’ve got off her posts though. This gives me pause.

[Porscha]

well i think kate and hkatt are both town now. definitely hkatt

I don’t know HK well enough to know what this exchange says about them, but I don’t think this is AI of Kate. This is her reacting to the way someone was speaking to her, and I think you’d get that no matter her alignment.

sure, probably

+1

[Spacedaisy]

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

gn

~16 hours and no one else has really gone for Belzy

this is maybe a very small and barely useful thing to say, but: I don't think Sean was killed in order to frame Belzy for being very publicly pushing and scumreading Sean yesterday

I was sort of hoping that would happen / the thread would engage on Belzy and that's how I could figure out my read

there's just something about they're D2 entrance that I don't like. it feels very "pre-decided". like:
- scum figured I would be cleared by the rand, but someone knows I'm bad at solving as town, so better to kill elsewhere
- okay so scum has to townread me now
- Belzy's actual explanation for townreading me is.....that I successfully managed to tinfoil them about tutuu pocketing them
- but then it's right back to voting for Kate and also pushing HK
- no questioning of tutuu, which is why I flipped to bothering tutuu about Belzy, which went.....ok

@tutuu @Kate any flaws in my logic for what I think is possibly sus behavior here from Belzy?

if we wanted a comparison, I think Spacedaisy has done a decently towny thing (not the AtE about potentially mischopping, mind you) with ending on a "welp, my worldview is kinda broke now, but I'm going to think on things instead of just being stubborn and trying to flip one of my D1 scumreads without more analysis first"

otoh
- they had a bad day. I'm not being sarcastic. I could see that explaining today. I give anyone I play with a 1-time AtE pass. I believe you until you AtE, after that I will never believe you again. so. They had a bad day I hope tomorrow is better

I don’t know what you are talking about. I didn’t AtE at all, that would require me being emotional. I wasn’t the least emotional. I was being very rational. I had a shit vote that made me look bad and the kill suspected me. I expected to be mislimmed and I wanted to use that to help me sort what I feel about players in order to leave a decent legacy and generate some content for the rest of town to use for solving.

I’m sorry you felt it was AtE but you read that into it. It wasn’t my intent at all nor was I in the least emotional about the possibility of being mislimmed.

[Spacedaisy]

pyxxy
tutuu
Caitlin

Porscha
Roxy
falcon45ca

Kate
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
DrWilgy

Belzy

hollowkatt
Spacedaisy

fingersplints

baker

Fingersplits was someone I had a hard time sorting GTH so I looked at their ISO. The majority of their posts are NAI posts about Kate being a LHF while never actually taking a stance on Kate. Their push on Pyxxy I think is picking at something that is that level -1 type of scummy that comes from town as often (maybe more often) than scum, and their post about me is starkly contrasted with my own self-perception right now. I actually had them slightly higher when I started writing this, but I moved them down halfway through this paragraph.

Belzy is focusing almost exclusively on me, and I don't like that. I'm not sure if they're slightly below null entirely because of OMGUS, but I definitely want to see them actually... do things that aren't just parrot their read of me over and over again.

Porscha I didn't feel the best about putting them there. I usually find them relatively quickly, and honestly while I think they are closer to town than wolf here, I don't feel confident about that, and that worries me.

we should be sheeping

You know damn well sean was killed cuz he was universally tr and his reads dont matter

Porscha town

Because Porscha said Sean's reads don't matter? Really?

Because porscha wasn’t interested in just taking the easy road.

Do you mind explaining what the easy road is here?

Just wanting to vote Seanzie’s reads here is the topic we were discussing. I don’t know how relevant it is as I’ve seen a couple things in my catch up from Kate that have started to change my opinion, which is unfortunate because I thought I knew where I would be voting and now I am left at odds again.

[Spacedaisy]

Sorry it took me so long to get here today. I’ve had a bit of a shit day. I’ll be around a bit tonight and back tomorrow.

[Spacedaisy]

Wait, I confused myself because we were taking about two different people in my catch-up. I felt like you, Porscha, not wanting to go along with sheeping Seanzie’s reads looked like you weren’t interested in just doing the easy thing. Of course I don’t recall right now where you fell in Seanzie’s reads so maybe that was defensive and I just didn’t realize it. I dunno, my brain is at half power today.

Disregard my mention of Kate. I was confusing myself answering things.

[Spacedaisy]

Also, I checked out Caitlin and have realized I don’t feel as inspired on Day 2 by them. I’m dropping a vote there for the moment.

[VOTE: Caitlin] aubergine

[Porscha]

Wait, I confused myself because we were taking about two different people in my catch-up. I felt like you, Porscha, not wanting to go along with sheeping Seanzie’s reads looked like you weren’t interested in just doing the easy thing. Of course I don’t recall right now where you fell in Seanzie’s reads so maybe that was defensive and I just didn’t realize it. I dunno, my brain is at half power today.

Disregard my mention of Kate. I was confusing myself answering things.

May I point you to the reads list sean left in the original post of the line of conversation we were just having to help you remember where I was?

[DrWilgy]

gm.

Last night was a hell night and I'll probably not be around very much today.

The new Caitlin wagon is interesting, but I'm not sure why we'd be solving there today if someone wouldn't mind iterating it for me.

@Belzy and @falcon45ca do you still think Kate is W or are you just lingering there?

[falcon45ca]

gm.

Last night was a hell night and I'll probably not be around very much today.

The new Caitlin wagon is interesting, but I'm not sure why we'd be solving there today if someone wouldn't mind iterating it for me.

@Belzy and @falcon45ca do you still think Kate is W or are you just lingering there?

No, I'm no longer SR Kate. I am just lazy

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: cait] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

Don’t have a lot of time
I told you yesterday nanook was town but didn’t listen. Rox is town. Wilgy is town. Tutuu is bad

Why were you TR Nook?



Why is tutuu scum?

[falcon45ca]

gm.

Last night was a hell night and I'll probably not be around very much today.

The new Caitlin wagon is interesting, but I'm not sure why we'd be solving there today if someone wouldn't mind iterating it for me.

@Belzy and @falcon45ca do you still think Kate is W or are you just lingering there?

Well, for myself I found Cait pretty scummy to start last RD...they stepped up and I got some towny vibes...this RD it seems they've taken a step back, I don't recall anything from them yet




So its time to pressure

[falcon45ca]

Pyxxy and Seanzie are doing things which is better than nothing.

Probably not voting them either

I semi-like Pyyxxy carefully, but not Sean. What about Sean is better than nothing?

What didn't you like about Sean?

[falcon45ca]

Yeah, Cait hasn't posted since Sunday. That's a huge drop off in posting, they have over 100 posts for D1

[Caitlin]

For the record I requested replacement nearly 24h ago

Sorry

[fingersplints]

Don’t have a lot of time
I told you yesterday nanook was town but didn’t listen. Rox is town. Wilgy is town. Tutuu is bad

Why were you TR Nook?



Why is tutuu scum?

Trying to get my head in the game. Dealing with some things.

The tutuu is vibes. It’s not a strong suspicion. Sorry. Wish I could give more

Nanook made a post in which he called out his easy reads. Mafia wouldn’t do that, and specifically a mafia nanook would not. He was genuinely solving.

[fingersplints]

Idk brad or daisy or fs or Kate or something @pyxxy

who is Brad - can we use the user names we give ourselves or should I start calling everyone by their rl name?

[Roxy]

you.are.dead.to.me.after.you.posted.this.song.

[Roxy]

That was textbook, caught, flip the hell out

yep it was textbook alright.

[fingersplints]

Idk brad or daisy or fs or Kate or something @pyxxy

who is Brad - can we use the user names we give ourselves or should I start calling everyone by their rl name?

Like coke

[fingersplints]

Lime coke even

[fingersplints]

Idk brad or daisy or fs or Kate or something @pyxxy

who is Brad - can we use the user names we give ourselves or should I start calling everyone by their rl name?

His username on other forums I believe is “Bradland”
So this one is a bit different

[Roxy]

Roxy feels to me like they're "in their own corner" as they like to say about certain individuals.

wtf does this even mean?

[Roxy]

Roxy feels to me like they're "in their own corner" as they like to say about certain individuals.

Of course I use this term and now I'm just picturing them sitting in a corner by themselves yelling "LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!" any time someone comes near them.

now you are just being mean, what did I ever do to you?

I would never be alone as I am worshipped as a YaYa and a Mom.

[Roxy]

I'm offering a [VOTE: Splints] aubergine wagon to you.

I request a single slimy nickel in return.

Jinx, buy me a lime coke.

why is that your partner?

Boooo and to think I liked you.

wow I would ahte to see how you post to an enemy. This was a joke ffs.

[Roxy]

7 out of 13 players are currently not voting
5 out of 13 players never voted at all today their name isnt in the poll

would help guys to have people pushing each other more, voting and stuff. solidify the game and stuff. make the mafia squirm. right now they're chilling. altho i have no idea which wolf to push myself but im hoping maybe u guys do

tag 'em

is my opinion

@Roxy @fingersplints @Caitlin @hollowkatt @Spacedaisy plis

my vote is sacred. You may throw yours out on a whim I do not. I vote. I vote once. You do you honey <3

[Roxy]

gm.

Last night was a hell night and I'll probably not be around very much today.

The new Caitlin wagon is interesting, but I'm not sure why we'd be solving there today if someone wouldn't mind iterating it for me.

@Belzy and @falcon45ca do you still think Kate is W or are you just lingering there?

No, I'm no longer SR Kate. I am just lazy

really you guys??? I do tbs.

[Roxy]

Idk brad or daisy or fs or Kate or something @pyxxy

who is Brad - can we use the user names we give ourselves or should I start calling everyone by their rl name?

Like coke

how did you take over my post like it was yours?

Idk brad or daisy or fs or Kate or something @pyxxy

who is Brad - can we use the user names we give ourselves or should I start calling everyone by their rl name?

[fingersplints]

Weird

[Roxy]

Weird

nah we are lol

[fingersplints]

Roxy feels to me like they're "in their own corner" as they like to say about certain individuals.

Of course I use this term and now I'm just picturing them sitting in a corner by themselves yelling "LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!" any time someone comes near them.

now you are just being mean, what did I ever do to you?

I would never be alone as I am worshipped as a YaYa and a Mom.

And a friend <3

[Roxy]

Lime Coke - idk
Belzy - probs town
Caitlin - idk the vibe is off
DrWilgy - probs town
falcon45ca - probs town
fingersplints - cannot trust my self so idk
hollowkatt - probs town
Kate - is bad
Porscha - idk
pyxxy - probs town
Spacedaisy - probs town
tutuu - feels off and all over the place could be bad



I may have backed off slightly yesterday but you people are too easily fooled and I really cannot back down today.

sorry Kate <3 you know I love ya but you be bad.

I see no reason to put off my vote any longer bc my mind will not change.

Vote Kate

[Roxy]

Roxy feels to me like they're "in their own corner" as they like to say about certain individuals.

Of course I use this term and now I'm just picturing them sitting in a corner by themselves yelling "LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!" any time someone comes near them.

now you are just being mean, what did I ever do to you?

I would never be alone as I am worshipped as a YaYa and a Mom.

And a friend <3

true love ya chicka! <3

[Kate]

gm.

Last night was a hell night and I'll probably not be around very much today.

The new Caitlin wagon is interesting, but I'm not sure why we'd be solving there today if someone wouldn't mind iterating it for me.

@Belzy and @falcon45ca do you still think Kate is W or are you just lingering there?

No, I'm no longer SR Kate. I am just lazy

really you guys??? I do tbs.

I'm really surprised by this roxy. Is it the lady gaga?

I'd also like to make a wager with you.

I'm loving a game where I was verbally assaulted and somehow I'm the wolf. *clutches pearls*

[Kate]

Lime Coke - idk
Belzy - probs town
Caitlin - idk the vibe is off
DrWilgy - probs town
falcon45ca - probs town
fingersplints - cannot trust my self so idk
hollowkatt - probs town
Kate - is bad
Porscha - idk
pyxxy - probs town
Spacedaisy - probs town
tutuu - feels off and all over the place could be bad



I may have backed off slightly yesterday but you people are too easily fooled and I really cannot back down today.

sorry Kate <3 you know I love ya but you be bad.

I see no reason to put off my vote any longer bc my mind will not change.

Vote Kate

Go ahead and vote me out. I'll leave you a legacy post so you guys can still win the game.

[Kate]

so @Spacedaisy @hollowkatt i could have missed it but after reading ur posts u have a lot of townreads but im not sure what ur scumreads are, do you have at least 3 ppl u think could be mafia? and u too please @fingersplints. LC i think im following along with

absolutely as soon as I think of who I can get away with wolf reading I will give you a list.

Did you all miss this post?

[Kate]

Lime Coke - idk
Belzy - probs town
Caitlin - idk the vibe is off
DrWilgy - probs town
falcon45ca - probs town
fingersplints - cannot trust my self so idk
hollowkatt - probs town
Kate - is bad
Porscha - idk
pyxxy - probs town
Spacedaisy - probs town
tutuu - feels off and all over the place could be bad



I may have backed off slightly yesterday but you people are too easily fooled and I really cannot back down today.

sorry Kate <3 you know I love ya but you be bad.

I see no reason to put off my vote any longer bc my mind will not change.

Vote Kate

Fyi, you, me and splints are all civ. Why can't you trust yourself suddenly?

[pyxxy]

the Caitlin wagon is whack

regardless of subbing, why would a wolf dip after such a strong D1 / why set up themselves for that level of activity expectation

[pyxxy]

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Caitlin shield activated

[falcon45ca]

gm.

Last night was a hell night and I'll probably not be around very much today.

The new Caitlin wagon is interesting, but I'm not sure why we'd be solving there today if someone wouldn't mind iterating it for me.

@Belzy and @falcon45ca do you still think Kate is W or are you just lingering there?

No, I'm no longer SR Kate. I am just lazy

really you guys??? I do tbs.

Well, let's put it this way. I'm not looking at her for a flip today, but she's not a solid TR of mine.



If she solves, she stays. What are you seeing from her lately?

[falcon45ca]

the Caitlin wagon is whack

regardless of subbing, why would a wolf dip after such a strong D1 / why set up themselves for that level of activity expectation

There's only so much fluff a wolf can muster

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Caitlin shield activated

I think those two slots could easily be partnered, look at bakers early defense of Caitlin.

[falcon45ca]

so @Spacedaisy @hollowkatt i could have missed it but after reading ur posts u have a lot of townreads but im not sure what ur scumreads are, do you have at least 3 ppl u think could be mafia? and u too please @fingersplints. LC i think im following along with

absolutely as soon as I think of who I can get away with wolf reading I will give you a list.

Did you all miss this post?

No, but it's NAI, could easily come from a pissed off town

[Caitlin]

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Caitlin shield activated

I think those two slots could easily be partnered, look at bakers early defense of Caitlin.

I arise from my silence to suggest looking into Falcon after I probably get voted out today due to not being replaced

This post is just nonsensical, look at the vote count lol

And also undermines Pyxxy's defense of me

Gonna make sure my replacement is placed at potential mafia;

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Caitlin shield activated

I think those two slots could easily be partnered, look at bakers early defense of Caitlin.

I arise from my silence to suggest looking into Falcon after I probably get voted out today due to not being replaced

This post is just nonsensical, look at the vote count lol

And also undermines Pyxxy's defense of me

Gonna make sure my replacement is placed at potential mafia;

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

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