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[Michelle]

SVS pleaee vote

[Michelle]

SVS please vote

Ebwop

@S~V~S

[LinearPoint]

SVS pleaee vote

You also have not voted.

[LinearPoint]

Presumably SVS is going to vote within the last few hours on Guillotine. Unless SVS is a Town who believes Guillotine is a Parity Cop, in which case they'll probably just advocate to die or push someone else.

I would still treat it as 5 for Guillotine and 4 for SVS though.

[Michelle]

Let's make it more close then

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

[Michelle]

VC now:

Guillotine 4 Voters: cat, Seanzie, DrWilgy, falcon45ca

S~V~S 5 Voters: LinearPoint, Master Radishes, Epignosis, Guillotine, Michelle

[LinearPoint]

@S~V~S Do you believe Guillotine's Parity Cop claim?

If so, who do prefer to be your counterwagon?

[Michelle]

@S~V~S Do you believe Guillotine's Parity Cop claim?

If so, who do prefer to be your counterwagon?

This question is so weird. I think I know the answer because she implied it, but why do you asked about her choice for CV instead asking for her reads?

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: svs] aubergine

[Michelle]

I'll go to sleep, see you in the morning

[LinearPoint]

@S~V~S Do you believe Guillotine's Parity Cop claim?

If so, who do prefer to be your counterwagon?

This question is so weird. I think I know the answer because she implied it, but why do you asked about her choice for CV instead asking for her reads?

I'm just a interested in who exactly SVS would kill if not Guillotine. It's useful for if she flips wolf.

[S~V~S]

@S~V~S Do you believe Guillotine's Parity Cop claim?

If so, who do prefer to be your counterwagon?

This question is so weird. I think I know the answer because she implied it, but why do you asked about her choice for CV instead asking for her reads?

I'm just a interested in who exactly SVS would kill if not Guillotine. It's useful for if she flips wolf.

You had asked earlier why, if I wolf read Guillo, I didn't vote for him. First, I didn't wolf read him, I said he looked Wolfier in comparison to another person, but that doesn't mean he's a wolf. I read wolfy to people who don't know me, like you for instance. Second, I came up without changeable votes, so you could only vote once, so I tend to take my vote more seriously, although i do move it and have occasionally made pressure votes. But I tend not to vote unless I feel someone is bad more so than I think that about other people.

I have no reason to disbelieve Guillos claim. I don't see the point of claiming on Day one, so I will take it at face value.

I won't be flipping wolf. But I'm considering a vote for Epi.

When i flip town, what will you take from that, and who will you think were the wolves (if any) who voted for me?

[S~V~S]

*The point of FAKE claiming

[LinearPoint]

@S~V~S Do you believe Guillotine's Parity Cop claim?

If so, who do prefer to be your counterwagon?

This question is so weird. I think I know the answer because she implied it, but why do you asked about her choice for CV instead asking for her reads?

I'm just a interested in who exactly SVS would kill if not Guillotine. It's useful for if she flips wolf.

You had asked earlier why, if I wolf read Guillo, I didn't vote for him. First, I didn't wolf read him, I said he looked Wolfier in comparison to another person, but that doesn't mean he's a wolf. I read wolfy to people who don't know me, like you for instance. Second, I came up without changeable votes, so you could only vote once, so I tend to take my vote more seriously, although i do move it and have occasionally made pressure votes. But I tend not to vote unless I feel someone is bad more so than I think that about other people.

I have no reason to disbelieve Guillos claim. I don't see the point of claiming on Day one, so I will take it at face value.

I won't be flipping wolf. But I'm considering a vote for Epi.

When i flip town, what will you take from that, and who will you think were the wolves (if any) who voted for me?

Sorry I mistook your saying that Guillo was wolfier as a wolf suspicion.

I did notice you mentioned you didn't think Epi's case on you would come form a wolf or a town. is there a particular part of that post that made you unsure of Epi's perspective or just the whole thing was "a stretch" as you put it (in #256)? Actually on that note, what about it was a stretch in your opinion?

[S~V~S]

I mean , your reaction to it at the time, you really seemed to like it.

Yes but to do the effort to reread it at 11:30 pm only to explain you why I liked it seems like you want me to focus on that and I don't see the usefulness because it doesn't change my read on you.

Well, I don't see how anyone can like that case. And you seemed to like the points about me quite a bit, and I don't quite understand why. So I'd like you to tell me, I'm gonna be yeeted, I'd like the courtesy of an explanation. Especially since he linked us in it. So if I were to flip bad (spoiler, I won't) that won't look so great for you. Here it is, if that helps; just a quick couple of words on what he said about me that seems so bad to you.

Spoiler: show

If I recall correctly, all that's left of Ozymandias is an inscribed pedestal and his feet, right? Maybe I'll save the despair for some other game.

This is an awkward start time for me, I'm unlikely to be here EOD. I guess I expected overnight catchup to be more time consuming. I should have time to watch the video instead.

I do not mind this sort of entrance post. I think the word "instead" is weird, but I think I get it.

How many mafia we have in this game?

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Nothing wrong with this post in a vacuum either.

In context, I think Michelle's question is a little too much to take seriously. Michelle has played a long time and even said of playing with S~V~S: "Yes, of course. Many times but I never counted."

I believe Michelle would know the number is "two" and never one or three.

The question and answer happened so quickly together.

I think a civilian S~V~S would have waited it out to see how others would have responded to Michelle's question before weighing in (or responding at all). It's such a softball interaction.

LP
Seanzie
Cat
Epi
SVS
MR
Michelle
Guillo

I get why Guillo, but why Michelle? I don’t associate snap votes with bad Michelle, do you think she’s bussing him?

I sense a moment of panic here.

The tactic is to try to clear a teammate on the back of someone else's lynch. If Guillotine (who has the most votes) is a civilian, then obviously Michelle couldn't be "bussing" him.

More importantly, I don't see S~V~S trying to understand DrWilgy's other colors. No questions about me (I certainly have done nothing to warrant being green) or anybody else. This means that S~V~S isn't trying to understand DrWilgy, which means S~V~S already knows DrWilgy is not mafia.

How many mafia we have in this game?

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Why would be 3 unbalanced?

With only 10 players? That’s almost a third of the players list?

His Solar System game had 11 players, 2 mafia. With fewer players more wolves seems unlikely?

This is rather a debatable point to get aggro about?

I don't understand this at all. At what point was Michelle getting "aggro?"

How many mafia we have in this game?

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Why would be 3 unbalanced?

With only 10 players? That’s almost a third of the players list?

His Solar System game had 11 players, 2 mafia. With fewer players more wolves seems unlikely?

This is rather a debatable point to get aggro about?

Did I put enough question marks in this ^^? Maybe I need a few more?

@DrWilgy mathematical balance is not my strong suit; I was working on the premise that he wouldn’t have more wolves than in a game with more players than this. Hopefully he chooses to tell us, but if not, not.

Nothing wrong with this, but quoting it for later.

Actually Michelle is wolfing

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I dont believe you question how 3 wolves would be unbalanced in a game with 10 players

2 is a bit town sided.

Fight me, I am bored ^^

@falcon45ca even she thought she was sounding a bit aggro ^^ eh?

Although she might have been shading me, she made this post after the one I made implying she was sounding a tad aggro.

Good S~V~S engages with Michelle to find out what Michelle meant rather than talking to someone else about it and then assigning her own meaning to Michelle's post.

Actually Michelle is wolfing

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I dont believe you question how 3 wolves would be unbalanced in a game with 10 players

2 is a bit town sided.

Fight me, I am bored ^^

@falcon45ca even she thought she was sounding a bit aggro ^^ eh?

Although she might have been shading me, she made this post after the one I made implying she was sounding a tad aggro.

How many mafia we have in this game?

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Why would be 3 unbalanced?

@S~V~S is this the post you are referring to as shade in?

No the one I quoted, where she said “fight me” to someone else since she said that after I called her aggro lol

More making fun than shading, maybe like :P

That was: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:51 am

Actually Michelle is wolfing

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I dont believe you question how 3 wolves would be unbalanced in a game with 10 players

2 is a bit town sided.

Fight me, I am bored ^^

@falcon45ca even she thought she was sounding a bit aggro ^^ eh?

Although she might have been shading me, she made this post after the one I made implying she was sounding a tad aggro.

@Michelle Are you aggro?






We all have heard players say 'fight me I'm bored', and we've all seen players actually get aggro....the two are not the same






SVS is making mountains of molehills






[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

Am I?

I don't intend to. I have no idea how that is an aggression.

The ^^ is an emote sign, similar to so for me it had a joking tone.

That was: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:00 am

Nine minutes later.

I noted multiple "^^" in S~V~S's posts. They just stood out to me. It's almost like an inside joke between Michelle and S~V~S knowing they don't have a chance in this game, so screw it, have fun. I believe S~V~S is gassed as mafia. I believe Michelle doesn't like to be mafia.

@falcon45ca nah

You’re reading too much into one word. I’ve noticed you tend to do this with me.

Do you think Michelle is town?

I don't know what word S~V~S is referring to. She doesn't say. Again, there's nothing to figure falcon out and a weird question about Michelle.

@falcon45ca nah

You’re reading too much into one word. I’ve noticed you tend to do this with me.

Do you think Michelle is town?

I mean, I kinda saw it too.

I think assumption of aggro from Michelle was somewhat overplaced, I do think W's are immediately more aware or easier to perceive pushes against them. i.e. aggro.

The staccato way she said it felt almost accusatory to me, it’s how I read her tone, I’m a tone reader

It’s not something I necessarily associate with bad Michelle (for me my bad Michelle reference point was Anni, where she was not aggro). This was more an observation as I was a bit taken aback by how she got in my face over it. She asked a throwaway question (unless the host clarifies, who knows?) I gave a throwaway answer (again, who knows?) and she got in my face about it.

In the last game I played with town Falcon he susses town me for word choice. I mean, this is all over one word which tbh I still find valid in the context in which I used it.

In any case I don’t think I’m the one mountain/molehilling.

@LinearPoint havent read your post just kinda skimmed, I’ll get back to you after work.

I believe S~V~S and Michelle are mafia.

And I'm going to vote. What's the big rush? There's no hammer iirc. And I'm not planning ov voting for Guillo.

[LinearPoint]

I'd also like to know why you would vote Epi over Michelle? The impression I got from that #265 post was that you thought Michelle was not in their Town meta. So I was expecting your answer to have been Michelle, but was unsure if I got that impression wrong or if your opinion changed on that.

[falcon45ca]

Ya know what?






[VOTE: cat] aubergine

[S~V~S]

@S~V~S Do you believe Guillotine's Parity Cop claim?

If so, who do prefer to be your counterwagon?

This question is so weird. I think I know the answer because she implied it, but why do you asked about her choice for CV instead asking for her reads?

I'm just a interested in who exactly SVS would kill if not Guillotine. It's useful for if she flips wolf.

You had asked earlier why, if I wolf read Guillo, I didn't vote for him. First, I didn't wolf read him, I said he looked Wolfier in comparison to another person, but that doesn't mean he's a wolf. I read wolfy to people who don't know me, like you for instance. Second, I came up without changeable votes, so you could only vote once, so I tend to take my vote more seriously, although i do move it and have occasionally made pressure votes. But I tend not to vote unless I feel someone is bad more so than I think that about other people.

I have no reason to disbelieve Guillos claim. I don't see the point of claiming on Day one, so I will take it at face value.

I won't be flipping wolf. But I'm considering a vote for Epi.

When i flip town, what will you take from that, and who will you think were the wolves (if any) who voted for me?

Sorry I mistook your saying that Guillo was wolfier as a wolf suspicion.

I did notice you mentioned you didn't think Epi's case on you would come form a wolf or a town. is there a particular part of that post that made you unsure of Epi's perspective or just the whole thing was "a stretch" as you put it (in #256)? Actually on that note, what about it was a stretch in your opinion?

I think I was pretty clear and I went into detail when I replied to him.

I waffle on this. Epi and i go back over ten years in Mafia. He is like me in that I can pick town Epi out better than I can pick bad Epi out. I think he knows town SVS when he sees her, and it almost feels like he's concocting that story, it feels like BS, it feels like he had a premise, and he made up a story to support it.

But knowing Epi, I don't know that I see him doing this as a wolf, either. So I'm conflicted. Like I said earlier, I'm fairly OMGUSsed up right now. And of my early voters, Falcon has done what here to me before, and he sounds pretty towny to me overall. You have never seen me, and people new to me suspect me all the time. I'm used to it. So you suspecting me is fair, I can see it.

Epi not so much. I'm going to do some more reading. I might vote elsewhere, I don't think it matters where I vote since I plan on taking Guillos claim at face value, and only planned on voting for him before that if I was sure he was bad, which i wasn't. I wasn't sure he was town, either, but not enough to vote on it.

You haven't said who you'll be looking at when I flip town.

Linki @LP I thought that was clear? It almost felt to me like Epi putting me and Michelle together in that post yet voting for me was setting Michelle up to be cleared when I flip town. I feel more sure about him, though, than her. And I dislike making associative cases when neither person has flipped. So I'm trying to get her to tell me what she liked about the post where she was also accused, and also to give me a read on Epi. i haven't read the whole thread, though, work was a shitshow today, and I could have missed it.

[S~V~S]

SVS pleaee vote

When you posted this there were 7.5 more hours in the poll. I will. What's the rush?

[Guillotine]

Harclaim Parity Cop

Ok, you have my attention

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Can we finally work together or not. Im gonna die soon, i dont think im gonna see the day where i can reveal a parity check now that i claimed! Thanks!

Maybe there'd be a doctor in the house as well?

In a 10 player game? I doubt it

[Guillotine]

I mean Mafia would be silly to attack a Parity Cop Nigh 1.
Guillotine's claim just means that they will be safe from virtually all Wolf non-Roleblocker roles and draw in Town-aligned Protective Roles.
It's a very safe claim for a wolf, I'll say that. It wont be CCed today, maybe tomorrow another Cop might CC. And most townies wont want to chop a Cop claim Day 1.

I won't be CCed and anyone waiting to fake CC any other day than today will be lynched first.

[Guillotine]

If mafia wants to CC me today go ahead, I will accept that trade.

[LinearPoint]

@S~V~S Do you believe Guillotine's Parity Cop claim?

If so, who do prefer to be your counterwagon?

This question is so weird. I think I know the answer because she implied it, but why do you asked about her choice for CV instead asking for her reads?

I'm just a interested in who exactly SVS would kill if not Guillotine. It's useful for if she flips wolf.

You had asked earlier why, if I wolf read Guillo, I didn't vote for him. First, I didn't wolf read him, I said he looked Wolfier in comparison to another person, but that doesn't mean he's a wolf. I read wolfy to people who don't know me, like you for instance. Second, I came up without changeable votes, so you could only vote once, so I tend to take my vote more seriously, although i do move it and have occasionally made pressure votes. But I tend not to vote unless I feel someone is bad more so than I think that about other people.

I have no reason to disbelieve Guillos claim. I don't see the point of claiming on Day one, so I will take it at face value.

I won't be flipping wolf. But I'm considering a vote for Epi.

When i flip town, what will you take from that, and who will you think were the wolves (if any) who voted for me?

Sorry I mistook your saying that Guillo was wolfier as a wolf suspicion.

I did notice you mentioned you didn't think Epi's case on you would come form a wolf or a town. is there a particular part of that post that made you unsure of Epi's perspective or just the whole thing was "a stretch" as you put it (in #256)? Actually on that note, what about it was a stretch in your opinion?

I think I was pretty clear and I went into detail when I replied to him.

I waffle on this. Epi and i go back over ten years in Mafia. He is like me in that I can pick town Epi out better than I can pick bad Epi out. I think he knows town SVS when he sees her, and it almost feels like he's concocting that story, it feels like BS, it feels like he had a premise, and he made up a story to support it.

But knowing Epi, I don't know that I see him doing this as a wolf, either. So I'm conflicted. Like I said earlier, I'm fairly OMGUSsed up right now. And of my early voters, Falcon has done what here to me before, and he sounds pretty towny to me overall. You have never seen me, and people new to me suspect me all the time. I'm used to it. So you suspecting me is fair, I can see it.

Epi not so much. I'm going to do some more reading. I might vote elsewhere, I don't think it matters where I vote since I plan on taking Guillos claim at face value, and only planned on voting for him before that if I was sure he was bad, which i wasn't. I wasn't sure he was town, either, but not enough to vote on it.

You haven't said who you'll be looking at when I flip town.

Linki @LP I thought that was clear? It almost felt to me like Epi putting me and Michelle together in that post yet voting for me was setting Michelle up to be cleared when I flip town. I feel more sure about him, though, than her. And I dislike making associative cases when neither person has flipped. So I'm trying to get her to tell me what she liked about the post where she was also accused, and also to give me a read on Epi. i haven't read the whole thread, though, work was a shitshow today, and I could have missed it.

I just had some issues with reading the post. I wasn't following who you were talking about all that well.

As for who I'd execute if you are Town, my PoE is currently looking in Cat, Epi, MR, Wilgy, SVS, and Guillotine.

I've stated my case on Cat, I don't like their introduction and lack of participation. Wilgy I've been back and forth all day, I don't feel strongly any which way though. Epi has felt a tad sheepy on Falcon today who I think has pretty Town voting patterns. Guillotine's claim is a bit suspect. MR has not posted today very much, I am leaning a bit town with their 1 reads list though. You were also just my first main suspect and were not your initial response to my accusation seemed to be about mostly other things than my accusation.

[LinearPoint]

I mean Mafia would be silly to attack a Parity Cop Nigh 1.
Guillotine's claim just means that they will be safe from virtually all Wolf non-Roleblocker roles and draw in Town-aligned Protective Roles.
It's a very safe claim for a wolf, I'll say that. It wont be CCed today, maybe tomorrow another Cop might CC. And most townies wont want to chop a Cop claim Day 1.

I won't be CCed and anyone waiting to fake CC any other day than today will be lynched first.

That is not true at all. A Cop would be a fool to CC you today. From their perspective you are a very obvious wolf who is trying to draw out a Cop CC.

[Guillotine]

The only problem I'm having is that I'm not actually confident a Parity Cop played like Guillotine has been playing today.

It's odd for a role that wont get info unto day 3 to be super active, trying to get people to speculate on them, and all that. Seems very Vanilla play.

I obviously haven't seen they play Cop, but it is certainly not expected of an average player.

Im not one to coward behind low posting, I'm a hyper poster by nature.

[Guillotine]

I mean Mafia would be silly to attack a Parity Cop Nigh 1.
Guillotine's claim just means that they will be safe from virtually all Wolf non-Roleblocker roles and draw in Town-aligned Protective Roles.
It's a very safe claim for a wolf, I'll say that. It wont be CCed today, maybe tomorrow another Cop might CC. And most townies wont want to chop a Cop claim Day 1.

I won't be CCed and anyone waiting to fake CC any other day than today will be lynched first.

That is not true at all. A Cop would be a fool to CC you today. From their perspective you are a very obvious wolf who is trying to draw out a Cop CC.

That is stupid, if a wolf claimed parity cop in this game I would have CCed, a wolf is a wolf.

[LinearPoint]

I mean Mafia would be silly to attack a Parity Cop Nigh 1.
Guillotine's claim just means that they will be safe from virtually all Wolf non-Roleblocker roles and draw in Town-aligned Protective Roles.
It's a very safe claim for a wolf, I'll say that. It wont be CCed today, maybe tomorrow another Cop might CC. And most townies wont want to chop a Cop claim Day 1.

I won't be CCed and anyone waiting to fake CC any other day than today will be lynched first.

That is not true at all. A Cop would be a fool to CC you today. From their perspective you are a very obvious wolf who is trying to draw out a Cop CC.

That is stupid, if a wolf claimed parity cop in this game I would have CCed, a wolf is a wolf.

Then we agree to strongly disagree.

[Guillotine]

I mean Mafia would be silly to attack a Parity Cop Nigh 1.
Guillotine's claim just means that they will be safe from virtually all Wolf non-Roleblocker roles and draw in Town-aligned Protective Roles.
It's a very safe claim for a wolf, I'll say that. It wont be CCed today, maybe tomorrow another Cop might CC. And most townies wont want to chop a Cop claim Day 1.

I won't be CCed and anyone waiting to fake CC any other day than today will be lynched first.

That is not true at all. A Cop would be a fool to CC you today. From their perspective you are a very obvious wolf who is trying to draw out a Cop CC.

That is stupid, if a wolf claimed parity cop in this game I would have CCed, a wolf is a wolf.

Then we agree to strongly disagree.

Then I retract my townread on you, we no longer see eye to eye and I've seen wolves waiting to CC at a later day and spin this non sense and town foolish enough to sheep it.

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: Cat] aubergine

SvS feels like Dead Air, Dead Villager

[S~V~S]

Ya know what?






[VOTE: cat] aubergine

That one post, where she was like, "Gee I wonder why people are voting for SVS" that sounded a bit TMI to me, yeah, like she knew I would flip town. So I could see this vote, although the rest of her posts seem fairly nuanced to me. (Do you know how hard it is for me when quoting you to NOT delete some of those spaces in your post lol).

@LinearPoint lol, I asked you who you'd suspect when I specifically flip wolf. You listed me in your list, so maybe I wasn't clear about that. What do you think town would learn from my very vanilla death? Who looks bad from me flipping town?

[S~V~S]

lol Don't flip wolf ha ha

[Michelle]

If I recall correctly, all that's left of Ozymandias is an inscribed pedestal and his feet, right? Maybe I'll save the despair for some other game.

This is an awkward start time for me, I'm unlikely to be here EOD. I guess I expected overnight catchup to be more time consuming. I should have time to watch the video instead.

I do not mind this sort of entrance post. I think the word "instead" is weird, but I think I get it.

How many mafia we have in this game?

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Nothing wrong with this post in a vacuum either.

In context, I think Michelle's question is a little too much to take seriously. Michelle has played a long time and even said of playing with S~V~S: "Yes, of course. Many times but I never counted."

I believe Michelle would know the number is "two" and never one or three.

The question and answer happened so quickly together.

]I think a civilian S~V~S would have waited it out to see how others would have responded to Michelle's question before weighing in (or responding at all). It's such a softball interaction.

LP
Seanzie
Cat
Epi
SVS
MR
Michelle
Guillo

I get why Guillo, but why Michelle? I don’t associate snap votes with bad Michelle, do you think she’s bussing him?

I sense a moment of panic here.

The tactic is to try to clear a teammate on the back of someone else's lynch. If Guillotine (who has the most votes) is a civilian, then obviously Michelle couldn't be "bussing" him.

]More importantly, I don't see S~V~S trying to understand DrWilgy's other colors. No questions about me (I certainly have done nothing to warrant being green) or anybody else. This means that S~V~S isn't trying to understand DrWilgy, which means S~V~S already knows DrWilgy is not mafia.

How many mafia we have in this game?

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Why would be 3 unbalanced?

With only 10 players? That’s almost a third of the players list?

His Solar System game had 11 players, 2 mafia. With fewer players more wolves seems unlikely?

This is rather a debatable point to get aggro about?

]I don't understand this at all. At what point was Michelle getting "aggro?"

How many mafia we have in this game?

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Why would be 3 unbalanced?

With only 10 players? That’s almost a third of the players list?

His Solar System game had 11 players, 2 mafia. With fewer players more wolves seems unlikely?

This is rather a debatable point to get aggro about?

Did I put enough question marks in this ^^? Maybe I need a few more?

@DrWilgy mathematical balance is not my strong suit; I was working on the premise that he wouldn’t have more wolves than in a game with more players than this. Hopefully he chooses to tell us, but if not, not.

Nothing wrong with this, but quoting it for later.

Actually Michelle is wolfing

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I dont believe you question how 3 wolves would be unbalanced in a game with 10 players

2 is a bit town sided.

Fight me, I am bored ^^

@falcon45ca even she thought she was sounding a bit aggro ^^ eh?

Although she might have been shading me, she made this post after the one I made implying she was sounding a tad aggro.

]Good S~V~S engages with Michelle to find out what Michelle meant rather than talking to someone else about it and then assigning her own meaning to Michelle's post.

Actually Michelle is wolfing

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I dont believe you question how 3 wolves would be unbalanced in a game with 10 players

2 is a bit town sided.

Fight me, I am bored ^^

@falcon45ca even she thought she was sounding a bit aggro ^^ eh?

Although she might have been shading me, she made this post after the one I made implying she was sounding a tad aggro.

How many mafia we have in this game?

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Why would be 3 unbalanced?

@S~V~S is this the post you are referring to as shade in?

No the one I quoted, where she said “fight me” to someone else since she said that after I called her aggro lol

More making fun than shading, maybe like :P

That was: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:51 am

Actually Michelle is wolfing

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I dont believe you question how 3 wolves would be unbalanced in a game with 10 players

2 is a bit town sided.

Fight me, I am bored ^^

@falcon45ca even she thought she was sounding a bit aggro ^^ eh?

Although she might have been shading me, she made this post after the one I made implying she was sounding a tad aggro.

@Michelle Are you aggro?






We all have heard players say 'fight me I'm bored', and we've all seen players actually get aggro....the two are not the same






SVS is making mountains of molehills






[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

Am I?

I don't intend to. I have no idea how that is an aggression.

The ^^ is an emote sign, similar to so for me it had a joking tone.

That was: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:00 am

Nine minutes later.

I noted multiple "^^" in S~V~S's posts. They just stood out to me. It's almost like an inside joke between Michelle and S~V~S knowing they don't have a chance in this game, so screw it, have fun. I believe S~V~S is gassed as mafia. I believe Michelle doesn't like to be mafia.

@falcon45ca nah

You’re reading too much into one word. I’ve noticed you tend to do this with me.

Do you think Michelle is town?

I don't know what word S~V~S is referring to. She doesn't say. Again, there's nothing to figure falcon out and a weird question about Michelle.

@falcon45ca nah

You’re reading too much into one word. I’ve noticed you tend to do this with me.

Do you think Michelle is town?

I mean, I kinda saw it too.

I think assumption of aggro from Michelle was somewhat overplaced, I do think W's are immediately more aware or easier to perceive pushes against them. i.e. aggro.

The staccato way she said it felt almost accusatory to me, it’s how I read her tone, I’m a tone reader

It’s not something I necessarily associate with bad Michelle (for me my bad Michelle reference point was Anni, where she was not aggro). This was more an observation as I was a bit taken aback by how she got in my face over it. She asked a throwaway question (unless the host clarifies, who knows?) I gave a throwaway answer (again, who knows?) and she got in my face about it.

In the last game I played with town Falcon he susses town me for word choice. I mean, this is all over one word which tbh I still find valid in the context in which I used it.

In any case I don’t think I’m the one mountain/molehilling.

@LinearPoint havent read your post just kinda skimmed, I’ll get back to you after work.

I believe S~V~S and Michelle are mafia.

The yellow parts I agreed with

Now that I reread please explain the cyan text

I ceased to read at the fuchsia sentence and I started laughing. Still, I think Epi has a towny approach.

@S~V~S here it is what I liked

[LinearPoint]

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

I'm going to do this for now. I don't know if I want Cat or Epi though. SVS feels like a defeated town and Guillotine (I hope) will self resolve or get useful info as wolves wont kill Guillotine and try to get her out in the endgame.

[LinearPoint]

Ya know what?






[VOTE: cat] aubergine

That one post, where she was like, "Gee I wonder why people are voting for SVS" that sounded a bit TMI to me, yeah, like she knew I would flip town. So I could see this vote, although the rest of her posts seem fairly nuanced to me. (Do you know how hard it is for me when quoting you to NOT delete some of those spaces in your post lol).

@LinearPoint lol, I asked you who you'd suspect when I specifically flip wolf. You listed me in your list, so maybe I wasn't clear about that. What do you think town would learn from my very vanilla death? Who looks bad from me flipping town?

I thought you asked when you flip Town. My bad.

I mean if you're Wolf I think it's most certainly Cat or Wilgy then. I don't think you and Guillotine are W/W. You've been consistently unsure of if to push Epi or not, that could be a soft bus but I'd bet more on wolf!SVS just doing that to keep their options open.

[S~V~S]

[VOTE: Cat] aubergine

SvS feels like Dead Air, Dead Villager

I feel like dead air.

I'll vote Epi for now, I'll be back after dinner, I'll skip the couch tonight. So I'll [VOTE: Epi] aubergine.

linki @Michelle thanks for the reply, I'll read it. Appreciated, you understand why I got pushy about it?? I explained it up there ^^^ (heh) it almost felt to me like Epi was setting up a preemptive town clear of you, it felt TMI to me, and whether or not you were associated with that

It just felt to me like a way for him to say, after I died, "Well I guess I must be wrong about Michelle too". kinda thing.

[LinearPoint]

Ya know what?






[VOTE: cat] aubergine

That one post, where she was like, "Gee I wonder why people are voting for SVS" that sounded a bit TMI to me, yeah, like she knew I would flip town. So I could see this vote, although the rest of her posts seem fairly nuanced to me. (Do you know how hard it is for me when quoting you to NOT delete some of those spaces in your post lol).

@LinearPoint lol, I asked you who you'd suspect when I specifically flip wolf. You listed me in your list, so maybe I wasn't clear about that. What do you think town would learn from my very vanilla death? Who looks bad from me flipping town?

I thought you asked when you flip Town. My bad.

I mean if you're Wolf I think it's most certainly Cat or Wilgy then. I don't think you and Guillotine are W/W. You've been consistently unsure of if to push Epi or not, that could be a soft bus but I'd bet more on wolf!SVS just doing that to keep their options open.

Wait I double misread that post.

If you flip Town, I frankly don't think that gives info onto who would also be Town. I certainly would just go for Guillotine in that case since it looks like a wolf panic claiming Cop to not die D1. Other than that I don't have a good idea on who Guillotine's partner might be. Probably still just PoE MR, Wilgy, Cat, and Epi honestly.

[S~V~S]

Also i'd rather not yeet Guillo. If y'all aren't going to yeet me, I'd like to try to agree on someone if possible. I can move to cat if that's what's needed.

[S~V~S]

Cause right now we're tied.

[Michelle]

Epi: SVS and Michelle are scum
SVS: Epi and Michelle are scum

?

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Cat] aubergine

SvS feels like Dead Air, Dead Villager

I feel like dead air.

I'll vote Epi for now, I'll be back after dinner, I'll skip the couch tonight. So I'll [VOTE: Epi] aubergine.

linki @Michelle thanks for the reply, I'll read it. Appreciated, you understand why I got pushy about it?? I explained it up there ^^^ (heh) it almost felt to me like Epi was setting up a preemptive town clear of you, it felt TMI to me, and whether or not you were associated with that

It just felt to me like a way for him to say, after I died, "Well I guess I must be wrong about Michelle too". kinda thing.

I need the answer for the cyan text pls

[LinearPoint]

Epi: SVS and Michelle are scum
SVS: Epi and Michelle are scum

?

I feel like you're trying to imply something here, but it's NAI for 2 people to sus each other and a similar person.

[Michelle]

Epi: SVS and Michelle are scum
SVS: Epi and Michelle are scum

?

I feel like you're trying to imply something here, but it's NAI for 2 people to sus each other and a similar person.

Time will tell of it's NAI

[Michelle]

VC

Spoiler: show

Poll runs till Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


cat
2
17%
Voters: Guillotine, falcon45ca
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis
1
8%
Voters: S~V~S
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
Guillotine
3
25%
Voters: cat, Seanzie, DrWilgy
LinearPoint
0
No votes
Voters: None
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
S~V~S
3
25%
Voters: Master Radishes, Epignosis, Michelle
Seanzie
0
No votes
Voters: None
No elimination
0
No votes
Voters: None
No vote
1
8%
Voters: LinearPoint
History class rules (spec)
2
17%
Voters: Scotty, JaggedJimmyJay
Total votes: 12

[Michelle]

*if it’s Nai

Sorry

[Michelle]

@Guillotine tell me what do you want to work at

[S~V~S]

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If I recall correctly, all that's left of Ozymandias is an inscribed pedestal and his feet, right? Maybe I'll save the despair for some other game.

This is an awkward start time for me, I'm unlikely to be here EOD. I guess I expected overnight catchup to be more time consuming. I should have time to watch the video instead.

I do not mind this sort of entrance post. I think the word "instead" is weird, but I think I get it.

Instead of using my limited time to catch up to lots of posts, I'll have time to watch the video instead. "Weird" isn't "bad".

How many mafia we have in this game?

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Nothing wrong with this post in a vacuum either.

In context, I think Michelle's question is a little too much to take seriously. Michelle has played a long time and even said of playing with S~V~S: "Yes, of course. Many times but I never counted."

I believe Michelle would know the number is "two" and never one or three.

The question and answer happened so quickly together.

I think a civilian S~V~S would have waited it out to see how others would have responded to Michelle's question before weighing in (or responding at all). It's such a softball interaction.

I thought she was trying to spark up some conversation. So I made conversation. It is softball; why would I care what others think, and it surprises me that you think I would. *BAD* me would care. Town me says what I have to say and hits "Post".

LP
Seanzie
Cat
Epi
SVS
MR
Michelle
Guillo

I get why Guillo, but why Michelle? I don’t associate snap votes with bad Michelle, do you think she’s bussing him?

I sense a moment of panic here.

The tactic is to try to clear a teammate on the back of someone else's lynch. If Guillotine (who has the most votes) is a civilian, then obviously Michelle couldn't be "bussing" him.

More importantly, I don't see S~V~S trying to understand DrWilgy's other colors. No questions about me (I certainly have done nothing to warrant being green) or anybody else. This means that S~V~S isn't trying to understand DrWilgy, which means S~V~S already knows DrWilgy is not mafia.

Panic? I was asking him to expand on his reads. Which is what people do. This whole post so far feels like youre reading into what I'm saying *trying* to find a reason to suspect me.

Asking a person to explain their reads is EXACTLY trying to understand his colors, and I had no questions about the rest of the list. I think I have a fairly good feel for Wilgy most of the time, but i've been spectacularly wrong (see: Meta) so sorting Wilgy is important to me. Besides, as an old school player, you know I'm more interested in peoples baddie reads than their town reads.

How many mafia we have in this game?

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Why would be 3 unbalanced?

With only 10 players? That’s almost a third of the players list?

His Solar System game had 11 players, 2 mafia. With fewer players more wolves seems unlikely?

This is rather a debatable point to get aggro about?

I don't understand this at all. At what point was Michelle getting "aggro?"

I already explained this (@cat this is why I keep talking about it ^^). The way she answered me was very staccato, and felt challenging to me. "Aggro" was a word choice, i could have chosen others, that was the one I chose. That's how it felt to me. She threw the thread a speculation softball, I picked it up and tossed it back, and she threw it back harder than I would have expected.

I'm not sure what there is to "Understand at all".

How many mafia we have in this game?

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Why would be 3 unbalanced?

With only 10 players? That’s almost a third of the players list?

His Solar System game had 11 players, 2 mafia. With fewer players more wolves seems unlikely?

This is rather a debatable point to get aggro about?

Did I put enough question marks in this ^^? Maybe I need a few more?

@DrWilgy mathematical balance is not my strong suit; I was working on the premise that he wouldn’t have more wolves than in a game with more players than this. Hopefully he chooses to tell us, but if not, not.

Nothing wrong with this, but quoting it for later.

Actually Michelle is wolfing

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I dont believe you question how 3 wolves would be unbalanced in a game with 10 players

2 is a bit town sided.

Fight me, I am bored ^^

@falcon45ca even she thought she was sounding a bit aggro ^^ eh?

Although she might have been shading me, she made this post after the one I made implying she was sounding a tad aggro.

Good S~V~S engages with Michelle to find out what Michelle meant rather than talking to someone else about it and then assigning her own meaning to Michelle's post.

Not sure what you are saying here? Right after I made the aggro remark, she asked someone if they wanted to fight lol. I am kinda perplexed as to why this whole thing is so suspect, tbh,

Actually Michelle is wolfing

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I dont believe you question how 3 wolves would be unbalanced in a game with 10 players

2 is a bit town sided.

Fight me, I am bored ^^

@falcon45ca even she thought she was sounding a bit aggro ^^ eh?

Although she might have been shading me, she made this post after the one I made implying she was sounding a tad aggro.

How many mafia we have in this game?

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Why would be 3 unbalanced?

@S~V~S is this the post you are referring to as shade in?

No the one I quoted, where she said “fight me” to someone else since she said that after I called her aggro lol

More making fun than shading, maybe like :P

That was: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:51 am

Actually Michelle is wolfing

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I dont believe you question how 3 wolves would be unbalanced in a game with 10 players

2 is a bit town sided.

Fight me, I am bored ^^

@falcon45ca even she thought she was sounding a bit aggro ^^ eh?

Although she might have been shading me, she made this post after the one I made implying she was sounding a tad aggro.

@Michelle Are you aggro?






We all have heard players say 'fight me I'm bored', and we've all seen players actually get aggro....the two are not the same






SVS is making mountains of molehills






[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

Am I?

I don't intend to. I have no idea how that is an aggression.

The ^^ is an emote sign, similar to so for me it had a joking tone.

That was: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:00 am

Nine minutes later.

I noted multiple "^^" in S~V~S's posts. They just stood out to me. It's almost like an inside joke between Michelle and S~V~S knowing they don't have a chance in this game, so screw it, have fun. I believe S~V~S is gassed as mafia. I believe Michelle doesn't like to be mafia.

Read my iso. I use that ALL THE TIME. Especially if I'm posting on phone when pulling quotes is too much of a PITA. But even when I'm not.

@falcon45ca nah

You’re reading too much into one word. I’ve noticed you tend to do this with me.

Do you think Michelle is town?

I don't know what word S~V~S is referring to. She doesn't say. Again, there's nothing to figure falcon out and a weird question about Michelle.

It was not a weird question. He was voting me based on my reaction to something Michelle said, so i was interested in his opinion of her. And in the Emperors Soul game, Falcon suspected me based on my word usage. He was wrong, we were both town, and that is what I was referencing here. I'm fairly sure he should have gotten my reference.

@falcon45ca nah

You’re reading too much into one word. I’ve noticed you tend to do this with me.

Do you think Michelle is town?

I mean, I kinda saw it too.

I think assumption of aggro from Michelle was somewhat overplaced, I do think W's are immediately more aware or easier to perceive pushes against them. i.e. aggro.

The staccato way she said it felt almost accusatory to me, it’s how I read her tone, I’m a tone reader

It’s not something I necessarily associate with bad Michelle (for me my bad Michelle reference point was Anni, where she was not aggro). This was more an observation as I was a bit taken aback by how she got in my face over it. She asked a throwaway question (unless the host clarifies, who knows?) I gave a throwaway answer (again, who knows?) and she got in my face about it.

In the last game I played with town Falcon he susses town me for word choice. I mean, this is all over one word which tbh I still find valid in the context in which I used it.

In any case I don’t think I’m the one mountain/molehilling.

@LinearPoint havent read your post just kinda skimmed, I’ll get back to you after work.

I believe S~V~S and Michelle are mafia.

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Personally, I do not think she is bad. If she is she changed up her game alot. My town touchstone for Michelle was Anni; there she was evasive, avoided discussion or giving opinions. She was slippery, and had a "heh heh" feel to her that was absent in any of the town games I have seen her play. It is absent here.

I am kinda astounded that this is the most suspicious thing people are finding. That I made a word choice that was perhaps not the best word choice, and I'm getting raked over the coals for it now. the fact that you think I would faux banter or set up faux suspish with a teammate tells me you don't understand my game at all.

This post is such a stretch, especially from you, that I'm fairly sure you're town, too. Because, like me, I don't see you making up something like this Day One.

I still have to read Linear Points big post, and unless it's more of this ^^^, looks like I spent most of my catch up time on this absurdity.

Sorry to call your post absurd, you obvs put alot of work into it (and you know I would never think *you* are absurd), but name one game you've seen me act like this when I was bad?

@falcon45ca You want to see making mountains out of molehills? Take a look at this ^^

@Michelle , I did reply to all those points this AM, here is the post (It's Epis post again, I replied in line with glowy text. I spoilered it, it's a huge post.

Epi: SVS and Michelle are scum
SVS: Epi and Michelle are scum

?

I feel like you're trying to imply something here, but it's NAI for 2 people to sus each other and a similar person.

Epis post felt to me like he was trying to set Michelle up for a town clear, from my perspective of knowing I'm town. But I could be 100% left field. You know, I think A & B are bad, imma vote for B. Then B flips town, "Oh I was wrong, A must also be town". kinda thing.

I've done that with packmates when i was a wolf, I'm sure most of us have. A feel, not anything more. Of the two, I still feel more icky about Epi for sure.

[Michelle]

You accused me of a shade.

What was the shade?

[Michelle]

You accused me of a shade.

What was the shade?

@ Svs

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: No vote] aubergine

I have fallen behind and I am working, but I will be available for about two hours before the sun sets.

[LinearPoint]

Spoiler: show

If I recall correctly, all that's left of Ozymandias is an inscribed pedestal and his feet, right? Maybe I'll save the despair for some other game.

This is an awkward start time for me, I'm unlikely to be here EOD. I guess I expected overnight catchup to be more time consuming. I should have time to watch the video instead.

I do not mind this sort of entrance post. I think the word "instead" is weird, but I think I get it.

Instead of using my limited time to catch up to lots of posts, I'll have time to watch the video instead. "Weird" isn't "bad".

How many mafia we have in this game?

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Nothing wrong with this post in a vacuum either.

In context, I think Michelle's question is a little too much to take seriously. Michelle has played a long time and even said of playing with S~V~S: "Yes, of course. Many times but I never counted."

I believe Michelle would know the number is "two" and never one or three.

The question and answer happened so quickly together.

I think a civilian S~V~S would have waited it out to see how others would have responded to Michelle's question before weighing in (or responding at all). It's such a softball interaction.

I thought she was trying to spark up some conversation. So I made conversation. It is softball; why would I care what others think, and it surprises me that you think I would. *BAD* me would care. Town me says what I have to say and hits "Post".

LP
Seanzie
Cat
Epi
SVS
MR
Michelle
Guillo

I get why Guillo, but why Michelle? I don’t associate snap votes with bad Michelle, do you think she’s bussing him?

I sense a moment of panic here.

The tactic is to try to clear a teammate on the back of someone else's lynch. If Guillotine (who has the most votes) is a civilian, then obviously Michelle couldn't be "bussing" him.

More importantly, I don't see S~V~S trying to understand DrWilgy's other colors. No questions about me (I certainly have done nothing to warrant being green) or anybody else. This means that S~V~S isn't trying to understand DrWilgy, which means S~V~S already knows DrWilgy is not mafia.

Panic? I was asking him to expand on his reads. Which is what people do. This whole post so far feels like youre reading into what I'm saying *trying* to find a reason to suspect me.

Asking a person to explain their reads is EXACTLY trying to understand his colors, and I had no questions about the rest of the list. I think I have a fairly good feel for Wilgy most of the time, but i've been spectacularly wrong (see: Meta) so sorting Wilgy is important to me. Besides, as an old school player, you know I'm more interested in peoples baddie reads than their town reads.

How many mafia we have in this game?

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Why would be 3 unbalanced?

With only 10 players? That’s almost a third of the players list?

His Solar System game had 11 players, 2 mafia. With fewer players more wolves seems unlikely?

This is rather a debatable point to get aggro about?

I don't understand this at all. At what point was Michelle getting "aggro?"

I already explained this (@cat this is why I keep talking about it ^^). The way she answered me was very staccato, and felt challenging to me. "Aggro" was a word choice, i could have chosen others, that was the one I chose. That's how it felt to me. She threw the thread a speculation softball, I picked it up and tossed it back, and she threw it back harder than I would have expected.

I'm not sure what there is to "Understand at all".

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Why would be 3 unbalanced?

With only 10 players? That’s almost a third of the players list?

His Solar System game had 11 players, 2 mafia. With fewer players more wolves seems unlikely?

This is rather a debatable point to get aggro about?

Did I put enough question marks in this ^^? Maybe I need a few more?

@DrWilgy mathematical balance is not my strong suit; I was working on the premise that he wouldn’t have more wolves than in a game with more players than this. Hopefully he chooses to tell us, but if not, not.

Nothing wrong with this, but quoting it for later.

Actually Michelle is wolfing

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I dont believe you question how 3 wolves would be unbalanced in a game with 10 players

2 is a bit town sided.

Fight me, I am bored ^^

@falcon45ca even she thought she was sounding a bit aggro ^^ eh?

Although she might have been shading me, she made this post after the one I made implying she was sounding a tad aggro.

Good S~V~S engages with Michelle to find out what Michelle meant rather than talking to someone else about it and then assigning her own meaning to Michelle's post.

Not sure what you are saying here? Right after I made the aggro remark, she asked someone if they wanted to fight lol. I am kinda perplexed as to why this whole thing is so suspect, tbh,

2 is a bit town sided.

Fight me, I am bored ^^

@falcon45ca even she thought she was sounding a bit aggro ^^ eh?

Although she might have been shading me, she made this post after the one I made implying she was sounding a tad aggro.

Well a post up there ^^ mentions that the “team” can start BTSC, so more than 1. Prolly 2. More than that would be unbalanced and Jay is all about balance.

Why would be 3 unbalanced?

@S~V~S is this the post you are referring to as shade in?

No the one I quoted, where she said “fight me” to someone else since she said that after I called her aggro lol

More making fun than shading, maybe like :P

That was: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:51 am

2 is a bit town sided.

Fight me, I am bored ^^

@falcon45ca even she thought she was sounding a bit aggro ^^ eh?

Although she might have been shading me, she made this post after the one I made implying she was sounding a tad aggro.

@Michelle Are you aggro?






We all have heard players say 'fight me I'm bored', and we've all seen players actually get aggro....the two are not the same






SVS is making mountains of molehills






[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

Am I?

I don't intend to. I have no idea how that is an aggression.

The ^^ is an emote sign, similar to so for me it had a joking tone.

That was: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:00 am

Nine minutes later.

I noted multiple "^^" in S~V~S's posts. They just stood out to me. It's almost like an inside joke between Michelle and S~V~S knowing they don't have a chance in this game, so screw it, have fun. I believe S~V~S is gassed as mafia. I believe Michelle doesn't like to be mafia.

Read my iso. I use that ALL THE TIME. Especially if I'm posting on phone when pulling quotes is too much of a PITA. But even when I'm not.

@falcon45ca nah

You’re reading too much into one word. I’ve noticed you tend to do this with me.

Do you think Michelle is town?

I don't know what word S~V~S is referring to. She doesn't say. Again, there's nothing to figure falcon out and a weird question about Michelle.

It was not a weird question. He was voting me based on my reaction to something Michelle said, so i was interested in his opinion of her. And in the Emperors Soul game, Falcon suspected me based on my word usage. He was wrong, we were both town, and that is what I was referencing here. I'm fairly sure he should have gotten my reference.

@falcon45ca nah

You’re reading too much into one word. I’ve noticed you tend to do this with me.

Do you think Michelle is town?

I mean, I kinda saw it too.

I think assumption of aggro from Michelle was somewhat overplaced, I do think W's are immediately more aware or easier to perceive pushes against them. i.e. aggro.

The staccato way she said it felt almost accusatory to me, it’s how I read her tone, I’m a tone reader

It’s not something I necessarily associate with bad Michelle (for me my bad Michelle reference point was Anni, where she was not aggro). This was more an observation as I was a bit taken aback by how she got in my face over it. She asked a throwaway question (unless the host clarifies, who knows?) I gave a throwaway answer (again, who knows?) and she got in my face about it.

In the last game I played with town Falcon he susses town me for word choice. I mean, this is all over one word which tbh I still find valid in the context in which I used it.

In any case I don’t think I’m the one mountain/molehilling.

@LinearPoint havent read your post just kinda skimmed, I’ll get back to you after work.

I believe S~V~S and Michelle are mafia.

Yikes. Replies intext in glowy

Personally, I do not think she is bad. If she is she changed up her game alot. My town touchstone for Michelle was Anni; there she was evasive, avoided discussion or giving opinions. She was slippery, and had a "heh heh" feel to her that was absent in any of the town games I have seen her play. It is absent here.

I am kinda astounded that this is the most suspicious thing people are finding. That I made a word choice that was perhaps not the best word choice, and I'm getting raked over the coals for it now. the fact that you think I would faux banter or set up faux suspish with a teammate tells me you don't understand my game at all.

This post is such a stretch, especially from you, that I'm fairly sure you're town, too. Because, like me, I don't see you making up something like this Day One.

I still have to read Linear Points big post, and unless it's more of this ^^^, looks like I spent most of my catch up time on this absurdity.

Sorry to call your post absurd, you obvs put alot of work into it (and you know I would never think *you* are absurd), but name one game you've seen me act like this when I was bad?

@falcon45ca You want to see making mountains out of molehills? Take a look at this ^^

@Michelle , I did reply to all those points this AM, here is the post (It's Epis post again, I replied in line with glowy text. I spoilered it, it's a huge post.

Epi: SVS and Michelle are scum
SVS: Epi and Michelle are scum

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I feel like you're trying to imply something here, but it's NAI for 2 people to sus each other and a similar person.

Epis post felt to me like he was trying to set Michelle up for a town clear, from my perspective of knowing I'm town. But I could be 100% left field. You know, I think A & B are bad, imma vote for B. Then B flips town, "Oh I was wrong, A must also be town". kinda thing.

I've done that with packmates when i was a wolf, I'm sure most of us have. A feel, not anything more. Of the two, I still feel more icky about Epi for sure.

Really? That's interesting. I've not considered doing that because I feel like that is such a weak argument to think if one of your wolf reads flips Town the other must then be Town. I get the other way around of if two Town reads had one flip wolf then maybe the other is wolf too, but not that one.