The Late Bronze Age Collapse [END]

[LinearPoint]

All right, Guillo is now ahead of me now. I'll vote for cat rather than making a vanity vote as I would prefer not to yeet him.

[VOTE: cat] aubergine

This is kinda LAMIST @Michelle

What do you think?

[VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine

A tad hypocritical no?

So you saying that self voting is too town to be town?

Well it very much looks like an attempt to signal that you cannot be wolf because a wolf would not want to be voted up.

Why not? Ive seen plenty of wolves just giving up in frustration.

It doesn't feel like you are a wolf giving up since you're not trying to say things like your actual role or whatever. It seems more to me like you are giving off the impression of a town giving up.

If that is true or just an impression a wolf is trying to give off remains to be seen. But it seems like you're wagon is not going to be easily beaten with most on the wagon not around and SVS potentially switching to your wagon if any more traction goes onto themselves.

Either way I don't think I'm going to be voting you or SVS today.

[Seanzie]

I believe one of these is correct. Assuming the low posting Radish not being wolf.

Cat-Epi
Cat/Epi/SVS-Wilgy

I don't see a world where it's SVS-Epi. Their interaction does feel rather 1-sided from Epignosis. There is a very niche world where SVS was just blindsided by an allied wolf hardpush.

Why aren't I in the mix?

I've gotten only good vibes (even if small vibes) from you so far.

And that's enough to clear me?

Why havent you contested my townreads?

Who are your townreads?

Epignosis
Michelle
Seanzie

Linear went from town to my poe, for gaslighting me for pushing SvS for being lamist.

If Guillo flips wolf this is probably an anti-salad, which is a less delicious version of an antipasto salad.

[Guillotine]

All right, Guillo is now ahead of me now. I'll vote for cat rather than making a vanity vote as I would prefer not to yeet him.

[VOTE: cat] aubergine

This is kinda LAMIST @Michelle

What do you think?

[VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine

A tad hypocritical no?

So you saying that self voting is too town to be town?

Well it very much looks like an attempt to signal that you cannot be wolf because a wolf would not want to be voted up.

Why not? Ive seen plenty of wolves just giving up in frustration.

It doesn't feel like you are a wolf giving up since you're not trying to say things like your actual role or whatever. It seems more to me like you are giving off the impression of a town giving up.

If that is true or just an impression a wolf is trying to give off remains to be seen. But it seems like you're wagon is not going to be easily beaten with most on the wagon not around and SVS potentially switching to your wagon if any more traction goes onto themselves.

Either way I don't think I'm going to be voting you or SVS today.

So you townread me but you are keeping me as an option with SvS?
The logic does not track

[Guillotine]

Why aren't I in the mix?

I've gotten only good vibes (even if small vibes) from you so far.

And that's enough to clear me?

Why havent you contested my townreads?

Who are your townreads?

Epignosis
Michelle
Seanzie

Linear went from town to my poe, for gaslighting me for pushing SvS for being lamist.

If Guillo flips wolf this is probably an anti-salad, which is a less delicious version of an antipasto salad.

If im a wolf i spewed more than half the game town. I must really suck at playing as scum.

[Seanzie]

30 minutes left and only less than a handful of people are here, wolves are confortable.

They have busy lives? Everyone saw the SoD times in sign ups, dont let them use that as an excuse.m

There is 2 hrs 30 minutes left. I won't be here at EoD though, wellll past my bedtime.

[LinearPoint]

This is kinda LAMIST @Michelle

What do you think?

[VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine

A tad hypocritical no?

So you saying that self voting is too town to be town?

Well it very much looks like an attempt to signal that you cannot be wolf because a wolf would not want to be voted up.

Why not? Ive seen plenty of wolves just giving up in frustration.

It doesn't feel like you are a wolf giving up since you're not trying to say things like your actual role or whatever. It seems more to me like you are giving off the impression of a town giving up.

If that is true or just an impression a wolf is trying to give off remains to be seen. But it seems like you're wagon is not going to be easily beaten with most on the wagon not around and SVS potentially switching to your wagon if any more traction goes onto themselves.

Either way I don't think I'm going to be voting you or SVS today.

So you townread me but you are keeping me as an option with SvS?
The logic does not track

I mean are you going to magically lose 5 votes? I think you are fairly obviously an execute candidate for the day.
I just don't see me voting you or SVS today.

[Seanzie]

I've gotten only good vibes (even if small vibes) from you so far.

And that's enough to clear me?

Why havent you contested my townreads?

Who are your townreads?

Epignosis
Michelle
Seanzie

Linear went from town to my poe, for gaslighting me for pushing SvS for being lamist.

If Guillo flips wolf this is probably an anti-salad, which is a less delicious version of an antipasto salad.

If im a wolf i spewed more than half the game town. I must really suck at playing as scum.

Nah, I'm just good at seeing through anti-spew.

[Guillotine]

30 minutes left and only less than a handful of people are here, wolves are confortable.

They have busy lives? Everyone saw the SoD times in sign ups, dont let them use that as an excuse.m

There is 2 hrs 30 minutes left. I won't be here at EoD though, wellll past my bedtime.

For some reason i thought it was in 26 minutes but judging by the activity around this time yesterday (in real time and start of game), i will not hold my breath

[Guillotine]

And that's enough to clear me?

Why havent you contested my townreads?

Who are your townreads?

Epignosis
Michelle
Seanzie

Linear went from town to my poe, for gaslighting me for pushing SvS for being lamist.

If Guillo flips wolf this is probably an anti-salad, which is a less delicious version of an antipasto salad.

If im a wolf i spewed more than half the game town. I must really suck at playing as scum.

Nah, I'm just good at seeing through anti-spew.

Seanzie, there is no anti-spew, please save me.

[Guillotine]

To the people in my townreads, i have no reason to trust anybody else, please save me.

[falcon45ca]

30 minutes left and only less than a handful of people are here, wolves are confortable.

They have busy lives? Everyone saw the SoD times in sign ups, dont let them use that as an excuse.m

You are kicking and screaming, this is the opposite of dead air dead villager.






If you're actually town, why would you reveal your role, and then go into some detail on how it works?

[Guillotine]

A tad hypocritical no?

So you saying that self voting is too town to be town?

Well it very much looks like an attempt to signal that you cannot be wolf because a wolf would not want to be voted up.

Why not? Ive seen plenty of wolves just giving up in frustration.

It doesn't feel like you are a wolf giving up since you're not trying to say things like your actual role or whatever. It seems more to me like you are giving off the impression of a town giving up.

If that is true or just an impression a wolf is trying to give off remains to be seen. But it seems like you're wagon is not going to be easily beaten with most on the wagon not around and SVS potentially switching to your wagon if any more traction goes onto themselves.

Either way I don't think I'm going to be voting you or SVS today.

So you townread me but you are keeping me as an option with SvS?
The logic does not track

I mean are you going to magically lose 5 votes? I think you are fairly obviously an execute candidate for the day.
I just don't see me voting you or SVS today.

If you are town you will compromise, i claimed, i must ge top priority over svs if no other wagon is possible.

[Guillotine]

30 minutes left and only less than a handful of people are here, wolves are confortable.

They have busy lives? Everyone saw the SoD times in sign ups, dont let them use that as an excuse.m

You are kicking and screaming, this is the opposite of dead air dead villager.


If you're actually town, why would you reveal your role, and then go into some detail on how it works?

What does it matter if i claim the details? If town does not kill scum def will or they will be throwing. Only reason they won't kill me is if im townreading one of them and i will know if they let me live tonight, im perfectly capable of doing 180s on people.

So stop throwing and side with me

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: cat] aubergine

[Guillotine]

30 minutes left and only less than a handful of people are here, wolves are confortable.

They have busy lives? Everyone saw the SoD times in sign ups, dont let them use that as an excuse.m

You are kicking and screaming, this is the opposite of dead air dead villager.






If you're actually town, why would you reveal your role, and then go into some detail on how it works?

And im the only one “kicking and screaming”.

[LinearPoint]

So you saying that self voting is too town to be town?

Well it very much looks like an attempt to signal that you cannot be wolf because a wolf would not want to be voted up.

Why not? Ive seen plenty of wolves just giving up in frustration.

It doesn't feel like you are a wolf giving up since you're not trying to say things like your actual role or whatever. It seems more to me like you are giving off the impression of a town giving up.

If that is true or just an impression a wolf is trying to give off remains to be seen. But it seems like you're wagon is not going to be easily beaten with most on the wagon not around and SVS potentially switching to your wagon if any more traction goes onto themselves.

Either way I don't think I'm going to be voting you or SVS today.

So you townread me but you are keeping me as an option with SvS?
The logic does not track

I mean are you going to magically lose 5 votes? I think you are fairly obviously an execute candidate for the day.
I just don't see me voting you or SVS today.

If you are town you will compromise, i claimed, i must ge top priority over svs if no other wagon is possible.

The problem is that if you aren't the one executed today, we will have this exact same problem day 2 with you and a different person.

While I do not like the idea of executing a PR over a potential Vanilla, you are starting to become a bit of a determent to the town's ability to gamesolve.

I would rather the flailing PR who wont ever be trusted again by the town to be executed in this scenario. But I am still going to try and get a scum read executed if I can.

[Guillotine]

@falcon45ca why didnt you accuse me of pretty much calling you town even though i didnt have you in my townreads?

[falcon45ca]

30 minutes left and only less than a handful of people are here, wolves are confortable.

They have busy lives? Everyone saw the SoD times in sign ups, dont let them use that as an excuse.m

You are kicking and screaming, this is the opposite of dead air dead villager.






If you're actually town, why would you reveal your role, and then go into some detail on how it works?

And im the only one “kicking and screaming”.

If you don't get lynched, you quite likely will be NKd





What's your actual legacy? TR & SRs plz

[Guillotine]

Well it very much looks like an attempt to signal that you cannot be wolf because a wolf would not want to be voted up.

Why not? Ive seen plenty of wolves just giving up in frustration.

It doesn't feel like you are a wolf giving up since you're not trying to say things like your actual role or whatever. It seems more to me like you are giving off the impression of a town giving up.

If that is true or just an impression a wolf is trying to give off remains to be seen. But it seems like you're wagon is not going to be easily beaten with most on the wagon not around and SVS potentially switching to your wagon if any more traction goes onto themselves.

Either way I don't think I'm going to be voting you or SVS today.

So you townread me but you are keeping me as an option with SvS?
The logic does not track

I mean are you going to magically lose 5 votes? I think you are fairly obviously an execute candidate for the day.
I just don't see me voting you or SVS today.

If you are town you will compromise, i claimed, i must ge top priority over svs if no other wagon is possible.

The problem is that if you aren't the one executed today, we will have this exact same problem day 2 with you and a different person.

While I do not like the idea of executing a PR over a potential Vanilla, you are starting to become a bit of a determent to the town's ability to gamesolve.

I would rather the flailing PR who wont ever be trusted again by the town to be executed in this scenario. But I am still going to try and get a scum read executed if I can.

No, all town has to do is to stop tunneling me like numnuts and scum will have no choice but to deal with me. Easy!

[Guillotine]

30 minutes left and only less than a handful of people are here, wolves are confortable.

They have busy lives? Everyone saw the SoD times in sign ups, dont let them use that as an excuse.m

You are kicking and screaming, this is the opposite of dead air dead villager.






If you're actually town, why would you reveal your role, and then go into some detail on how it works?

And im the only one “kicking and screaming”.

If you don't get lynched, you quite likely will be NKd





What's your actual legacy? TR & SRs plz

My legacy is my ISO, it's all in there.

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca why didnt you accuse me of pretty much calling you town even though i didnt have you in my townreads?

I don't recall you calling me town, or even having TRs.

[Guillotine]

@falcon45ca why didnt you accuse me of pretty much calling you town even though i didnt have you in my townreads?

I don't recall you calling me town, or even having TRs.

Exactly. But i told you that keep voting me is throwing, implying i believe you are town, why didnt you questioned me on that?

[Guillotine]

So Falcon, you are not reading my content? You are just fixated in my claim? Is that it?

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca why didnt you accuse me of pretty much calling you town even though i didnt have you in my townreads?

I don't recall you calling me town, or even having TRs.

Exactly. But i told you that keep voting me is throwing, implying i believe you are town, why didnt you questioned me on that?

The same reason I didn't ask about the color chicken. I have no idea what's going on inside your brain.

[Guillotine]

Also if SvS is scum, Michelle is def lock town as she does not bus on day 1, if not ever, i have not seen her bussing on day 1 though.

[Guillotine]

@falcon45ca why didnt you accuse me of pretty much calling you town even though i didnt have you in my townreads?

I don't recall you calling me town, or even having TRs.

Exactly. But i told you that keep voting me is throwing, implying i believe you are town, why didnt you questioned me on that?

The same reason I didn't ask about the color chicken. I have no idea what's going on inside your brain.

Thatbis precisely why you have to pick on things and adk questions! Lol

[Guillotine]

That is what i do, i pick up on things and be frontal about it.

[LinearPoint]

I feel a lot older after this past hour. Which is weird because the votes have not changed at all somehow.

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca why didnt you accuse me of pretty much calling you town even though i didnt have you in my townreads?

I don't recall you calling me town, or even having TRs.

Exactly. But i told you that keep voting me is throwing, implying i believe you are town, why didnt you questioned me on that?

The same reason I didn't ask about the color chicken. I have no idea what's going on inside your brain.

Thatbis precisely why you have to pick on things and adk questions! Lol

Ya, but I can't ask questions that don't occur to me. Maybe falcon2.0, but this version doesn't have the technology






I just asked you for TRs and SRs, and you directed me to read your ISO. Why not engage me now, and answer in real time?





Talk to me about Cat & LP plz

[LinearPoint]

2.) Votes in the poll are official, and I will only consider the poll votes when I resolve a day phase. It is still obligatory to call votes in the game thread, as the poll does not track voting order. Call your votes to make it possible to discern timing and order. This is not optional. Please call votes with the [ vote ][ /vote ] tags (no spaces).

Also I will quote this just to remind people that JJJ wants us to call votes in thread.

[falcon45ca]

I feel a lot older after this past hour. Which is weird because the votes have not changed at all somehow.

[Guillotine]

@falcon45ca why didnt you accuse me of pretty much calling you town even though i didnt have you in my townreads?

I don't recall you calling me town, or even having TRs.

Exactly. But i told you that keep voting me is throwing, implying i believe you are town, why didnt you questioned me on that?

The same reason I didn't ask about the color chicken. I have no idea what's going on inside your brain.

Thatbis precisely why you have to pick on things and adk questions! Lol

Ya, but I can't ask questions that don't occur to me. Maybe falcon2.0, but this version doesn't have the technology






I just asked you for TRs and SRs, and you directed me to read your ISO. Why not engage me now, and answer in real time?





Talk to me about Cat & LP plz

There is no much i can say about Cat. Low poster, irrationally tunneling me and promoting my elimination when SvS was also top wagon with me with 4 votes each, it may be too easy but sometimes things are easy and Cat is just SvS partner.

LP i dont like their treatment of me, say they townread me but have gaslighted me twice. I dont trust them, they could be a scummy town like i usually am who speaks without filter and entertain stupid tinfoils like me, but i hate their gaslight, i hate they ate not willing to compromise between SvS/Me, i hate thst they tried to spin a theory that if i am CCed a later date i should be executed when the optimal play is to execute the late CCer and i hate that even though they townread me, they might execute me so “tomorrow” we are not here again. I do not trust thst slot.

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

Just in case i didnt

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

Just in case i didnt

Why not self pres on Cat? You said you're being tunneled by them, why SVS over Cat?

[LinearPoint]

@Guillotine I would say that I think you just talked yourself into thinking I gaslit you, but I feel like that would somehow fuel your paranoia that I am gaslighting you more.

Either way I'll give you a hug after the game and say I'm sorry if you think I've gaslit you.

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

Just in case i didnt

Why not self pres on Cat? You said you're being tunneled by them, why SVS over Cat?

Because my suspicion on Cat is conditional to SvS alignment, if SvS isvtown then it means Cat was not trying to save their partner.

[Guillotine]

@Guillotine I would say that I think you just talked yourself into thinking I gaslit you, but I feel like that would somehow fuel your paranoia that I am gaslighting you more.

Either way I'll give you a hug after the game and say I'm sorry if you think I've gaslit you.

There is no need for that, i dont take your gaslight as something personal but as in game tactic which to me is valid if you are a wolf

[LinearPoint]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

Just in case i didnt

Why not self pres on Cat? You said you're being tunneled by them, why SVS over Cat?

Because my suspicion on Cat is conditional to SvS alignment, if SvS isvtown then it means Cat was not trying to save their partner.

Sorry if I missed it, but what is making you think Cat and SVS are same alignment?

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

Just in case i didnt

Why not self pres on Cat? You said you're being tunneled by them, why SVS over Cat?

Because my suspicion on Cat is conditional to SvS alignment, if SvS isvtown then it means Cat was not trying to save their partner.

Sorry if I missed it, but what is making you think Cat and SVS are same alignment?

You just quoted the reason LP

[Guillotine]

And quite frankly i already said why, read my content please

[LinearPoint]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

Just in case i didnt

Why not self pres on Cat? You said you're being tunneled by them, why SVS over Cat?

Because my suspicion on Cat is conditional to SvS alignment, if SvS isvtown then it means Cat was not trying to save their partner.

Sorry if I missed it, but what is making you think Cat and SVS are same alignment?

You just quoted the reason LP

Can you explain it to my small brain? I don't follow.

[LinearPoint]

I guess #532? All Cat's said in regards to SVS is they are a null read. I guess I'd just expect more if you were thinking Cat be hard pushing you to save SVS.

[LinearPoint]

But wait, does that mean you find Cat's suspicion of you to be a townie perspective normally?

Actually Michelle is wolfing

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I dont believe you question how 3 wolves would be unbalanced in a game with 10 players

This does not sit well with me. The moment this guy is called out for passivity he amps up the agression and votes the person pushing him? Plus the logic doesn't make sense to me, but that part is just personal preference.

Sus on Guillotine

I would think this seems opportunistic myself as they hopped onto the aggro talk bandwagon fairly quickly.

[Guillotine]

I guess #532? All Cat's said in regards to SVS is they are a null read. I guess I'd just expect more if you were thinking Cat be hard pushing you to save SVS.

Expectations are like buttholes, everyone has them. It does not mean they reflect reality.
The vote is what matters and Cat has mot shown any sign of reevaluation. As i said, thing could just as easy as that

[LinearPoint]

Actually I think I crossed a few wires. Falcon was talking about Michelle being aggro.

The early wagon on Guillotine was for not being aggro, while WIlgy was claiming they normally are as Town.
Cat then said that Guillotine was sus for getting more active after getting 3 votes.

I do still find it to be a bit opportunistic since Guillotine was getting a lot of heat for being slightly passive and they gave even more heat for Guillotine become more active.
It's a lose/lose argument for Guillotine as Guillotine gets sussed reguardless of what they do. It doesn't seem to me like someone trying to find the truth and more trying to back Guillotine into a corner.

[Epignosis]

As much as I've shit on Guillotine, this is not a Day 1 lynch. You have:

-A highly active participant
-A claim
-A blatant disregard for self-preservation despite the claim
-Lots of people doing nothing

If Guillotine is mafia, lynch the partner. Who is the partner?

[Epignosis]

If no one answers, I'm lynching Guillotine.

[Epignosis]

Yes, I'm holding Guillotine hostage.

[LinearPoint]

As much as I've shit on Guillotine, this is not a Day 1 lynch. You have:

-A highly active participant
-A claim
-A blatant disregard for self-preservation despite the claim
-Lots of people doing nothing

If Guillotine is mafia, lynch the partner. Who is the partner?

The problem with a Guillotine Mafia flip is mainly that a Mafia not voting them can just say "oh I didn't want to execute the Cop claim."
Seanzie I doubt is Mafia with Guillotine because the vote park is odd when they had an easy out.
Cat, maybe since Guillotine doesn't want Cat executed. Cat hasn't been on since Guillotine's claim, but I don't know if Cat puts their partner to 4 and just leaves to not return.
Wilgy has been on Guillotine all day, the only way that is Mafia is if they could not reach EoD to get their RVS vote off their partner.
I think Falcon looks town reguardless of a Guillotine flip.
SVS looks pretty good if Guillotine is Mafia with their earlier interactions.

I think realistically a Mafia!Guillotine means that it could be anyone not SVS, Seanzie, Cat, or Falcon.
Most likely? I would go with MR because of their response to the Cop claim being lackluster and their read on Guillotine early being a long, kind of waffly town lean read.

[Michelle]

@Guillotine tell me what do you want to work at

i want you to keep me in check if I start acting like I'm losing control, I'm very paranoid and stupid pushes that could very well come from town cloud my judgement, I need you to be my compass.

I will consider this when it happens

All right, Guillo is now ahead of me now. I'll vote for cat rather than making a vanity vote as I would prefer not to yeet him.

[VOTE: cat] aubergine

This is kinda LAMIST @Michelle

What do you think?

I am affraid I don't want to leave the wagon. I see only self defence from SVS but not a real solve.

[VOTE: Cat] aubergine

Both Cat and Epignosis seem a good execute for me.

I've not liked Cat all day and of the two I want to go with my gut first. Plus SVS seemed unsure of their read on Epi and I fear voting Epi might bait SVS into switching to a wagon they are not super confident in.

Cat is Poe by inactivity, but I veto a wagon on Epi.

I believe one of these is correct. Assuming the low posting Radish not being wolf.

Cat-Epi
Cat/Epi/SVS-Wilgy

I don't see a world where it's SVS-Epi. Their interaction does feel rather 1-sided from Epignosis. There is a very niche world where SVS was just blindsided by an allied wolf hardpush.

Im confident that it is SvS now.

SvS/Cat
SvS/Wilgy

Is where the money is at in my opinion.

Why?

Because maybe Cat was pushing for my elimination to save SvS
The same i could say about Wilgy but in reality my scum read on Wilgy is more on the individual level

A case on Wilgy scum will help if you have time

If you want i can lolcat so you dint feel bad lynching me.

Also if SvS is scum, Michelle is def lock town as she does not bus on day 1, if not ever, i have not seen her bussing on day 1 though.

I am town regardless.

Also good morning everyone!!!