Yeah. That's so sketchy, Boom.DharmaHelper wrote:This is at least the second time you've straight up avoided making waves with your vote. And why the hell are you voting a practically confirmed Civ?Boomslang wrote:Almost certain Daisy isn't bad due to my read. Therefore, voting SVS.
If I make it out of this lynch I'm gunning 100% for you.
Yeah, that's fair. But by the time I could vote today, it was either him or DH, and right or wrong I've gotta trust my reads at some point.Long Con wrote:Yeah. That's so sketchy, Boom.DharmaHelper wrote:This is at least the second time you've straight up avoided making waves with your vote. And why the hell are you voting a practically confirmed Civ?Boomslang wrote:Almost certain Daisy isn't bad due to my read. Therefore, voting SVS.
If I make it out of this lynch I'm gunning 100% for you.
Thanks for the recap Russ! I think lynching a guy for two votes that weren't for a Suit is pretty weak though.
Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
I agree with this. I wasn't keen on the DH/Snow Dog connection part of timmer's case on Snow Dog since I'm not seeing DH as bad, but the lynch votes, combined with Snowy's behavior lately, which looks like cornered baddie to me, and the possibility of a connection with Roxy's vote and sudden death, make him a viable candidate. For the first time this game, I'll vote with a majority because I can agree with at least part of itRusstifinko wrote:Fair enough, I guess, though I'm a bit miffed at the implication here.Long Con wrote:I think Russ should reiterate the case.
The case being, Snowie did not vote DF, and voted Dom in the now-infamous Dom/Black Rock lynch. So he's got good potential to be a Suit.
Linki: Made, not sure I understand Parts 2 & 3 of your theory. Teamed how? And what do you mean by MP being tainted?
I do agree that a DH lynch would yield a lot of info. Unfortunately, I my gut just doesn't say bad on him right now. Maybe I'm wrong, who knows. But I'm personally not desperate enough to vote people I think are civ just to check the validity of other theories.
As many lycnhes as it takes, I guess! 
timmer wrote:Im pretty hungover, going back to bed. Im liking how this lynch is going though. Snowy is acting like cornered baddie for sure.
LOL, I switched it back. I wanted to see if anybody would panic, even if it was a bit of a cheap move. This should be an interesting lynch.DharmaHelper wrote:timmer wrote:Im pretty hungover, going back to bed. Im liking how this lynch is going though. Snowy is acting like cornered baddie for sure.
I thought if one of them had a teammate still holding onto their vote, it might make them jump. It was worth a shot, LOL.Long Con wrote:Weird.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pm Always good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
timmer wrote:LOL, I switched it back. I wanted to see if anybody would panic, even if it was a bit of a cheap move. This should be an interesting lynch.DharmaHelper wrote:timmer wrote:Im pretty hungover, going back to bed. Im liking how this lynch is going though. Snowy is acting like cornered baddie for sure.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pm Always good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
DharmaHelper wrote:timmer wrote:LOL, I switched it back. I wanted to see if anybody would panic, even if it was a bit of a cheap move. This should be an interesting lynch.DharmaHelper wrote:timmer wrote:Im pretty hungover, going back to bed. Im liking how this lynch is going though. Snowy is acting like cornered baddie for sure.
Uh huh, more like somebody called you on your shit and you decided not to follow through,
Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
Not really, no. The details would only help the baddies.juliets wrote:So Timmer I don't guess you can tell us anything about how you were saved, or at least what you think happened?
THIS.timmer wrote:You know, I actually had Snowy down as a probable suit, not a sorcerer lol. So snowy took a chance and voted his own teammate in the Dom/Bass lynch. I've got to revisit some ideas before tomorrow!
That would explain why his play this cycle reminded me so much of Who.zeek wrote:THIS.timmer wrote:You know, I actually had Snowy down as a probable suit, not a sorcerer lol. So snowy took a chance and voted his own teammate in the Dom/Bass lynch. I've got to revisit some ideas before tomorrow!
The whole basis of the case against him turned out to be wrong but he was bad anyway
Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
Please pay attention to my closeness to elo - ask yourself when did i start trusting her and why?zeek wrote:I understand the weaknesses in the arguments that got Snowy lynched, so voting elsewhere is not by itself that worrying. Obviously, however, that also meant his teammates could now use that as cover for not voting for him. I haven't forgotten about the Suits but I think this lynch will be helpful, in combination with Bass-Dom, in determining who the Sorcerers are. But then I thought Snowy was a Suit using this type of analysis!
bea, you seem very civ on the surface but obviously you're still on the Sorcerer list. I'm starting to really pay attention to your closeness to Elo in this game as well. I'll be re-reading both of you.
But at least I make mafia posts almost reguarly!! right?!
Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
I've trusted bea since Day 0, maybe even beforebea wrote:Please pay attention to my closeness to elo - ask yourself when did i start trusting her and why?zeek wrote:I understand the weaknesses in the arguments that got Snowy lynched, so voting elsewhere is not by itself that worrying. Obviously, however, that also meant his teammates could now use that as cover for not voting for him. I haven't forgotten about the Suits but I think this lynch will be helpful, in combination with Bass-Dom, in determining who the Sorcerers are. But then I thought Snowy was a Suit using this type of analysis!
bea, you seem very civ on the surface but obviously you're still on the Sorcerer list. I'm starting to really pay attention to your closeness to Elo in this game as well. I'll be re-reading both of you.
If you sill think I'm bad. Then by all means lynch me. I'm not afraid of death this game. I've been more outspoken than I normally play because I'm not afraid of death this game
She is the only one I have trusted for that long. Hopefully that's not TMI. However, there doesn't seem to be such a thing in this game. Wow, I basically agree with everything said there. I am less sure of MP and more sure of Bea and myself though.timmer wrote:I think I understand what bea and eloh are saying, though I'm not sure, but if I'm right about it, I'm not sure why they are being so cavalier about talking about it like this.
Right now, I trust zeek based on gameplay. I trust MP - in the sense that I know what he has to do in this game and thus I know how his actions affect me and the rest of us. I trust S~V~S based on a logical assumption. I trust Long Con based on a hunch. I think I trust Bea and Elohcin, though that's another hunch.
I do not trust Daisy. Or Nijuu. I don't really trust DH because of side factors, i.e. what others think of him. I don't trust any of the silent players and cannot stand that they have give-up playing (and don't believe that a game mechanic would simply have wiped out so many players' ability to play).
Everyone else is in a gray area.
That's where I'm at.
timmer, you have no idea how much this means to me, particularly as you may have been my biggest opposition in earlier discussions.timmer wrote:I think I understand what bea and eloh are saying, though I'm not sure, but if I'm right about it, I'm not sure why they are being so cavalier about talking about it like this.
Right now, I trust zeek based on gameplay. I trust MP - in the sense that I know what he has to do in this game and thus I know how his actions affect me and the rest of us. I trust S~V~S based on a logical assumption. I trust Long Con based on a hunch. I think I trust Bea and Elohcin, though that's another hunch.
I do not trust Daisy. Or Nijuu. I don't really trust DH because of side factors, i.e. what others think of him. I don't trust any of the silent players and cannot stand that they have give-up playing (and don't believe that a game mechanic would simply have wiped out so many players' ability to play).
Everyone else is in a gray area.
That's where I'm at.
I am pretty much right there as well. In addition, like S~V~S said up there, Made could be bad.timmer wrote:I think I understand what bea and eloh are saying, though I'm not sure, but if I'm right about it, I'm not sure why they are being so cavalier about talking about it like this.
Right now, I trust zeek based on gameplay. I trust MP - in the sense that I know what he has to do in this game and thus I know how his actions affect me and the rest of us. I trust S~V~S based on a logical assumption. I trust Long Con based on a hunch. I think I trust Bea and Elohcin, though that's another hunch.
I do not trust Daisy. Or Nijuu. I don't really trust DH because of side factors, i.e. what others think of him. I don't trust any of the silent players and cannot stand that they have give-up playing (and don't believe that a game mechanic would simply have wiped out so many players' ability to play).
Everyone else is in a gray area.
That's where I'm at.
Can't speak for anyone else but...MovingPictures07 wrote:Can people summarize why they are thinking Made is bad? I'm curious. I have some vague ideas, but I can't really picture a case in my head.
It's interesting how the Dom vs Bass poll is being used, as if it's existance makes everyone guilty. Here me out, there is something to learn from the case, but I've heard voting for Dom makes you a Suit, voting for Bass makes you a sorcerer, and not voting evidently makes you equally as nasty.zeek wrote:Can't speak for anyone else but...MovingPictures07 wrote:Can people summarize why they are thinking Made is bad? I'm curious. I have some vague ideas, but I can't really picture a case in my head.
Missing Dom vs Bass, not voting Snow Dog, defending Snow Dog, posting while at the same time saying absolute nothing, the fact he's still alive. I find all these things suspect.
It wouldn't, which is why looking into the advantages if that would be useful.Elohcin wrote:Missing intentionally? There were only baddies to vote for. Why would intentionally missing help someone's case?
) and it's pretty exciting. But it may take my power/internet at any time. So One lynch poll can't be used exclusively to find baddies. We've seen now that Bass voted for his own teammate in one poll while Snowy voted for a teammate in another. Its the accumulation of a voting pattern that is key, not any one vote.Made wrote:
It's interesting how the Dom vs Bass poll is being used, as if it's existance makes everyone guilty. Here me out, there is something to learn from the case, but I've heard voting for Dom makes you a Suit, voting for Bass makes you a sorcerer, and not voting evidently makes you equally as nasty.
Again I want to stress this poll shouldn't be ignored, but maybe looked into further in context. So what were the reasons for each vote and were they strong. Does missing intentionally stand up to reason?
Double so for the idea that only a suit would vote Dom and vice versa. Going to read up on snowy and see what I can catch.
I still dig you though.
