Severance [Evening Four]

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Nvm maybe she does like rondo kinda more

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I dunno

[leetic]

Eh, [VOTE: Made] aubergine. I think I've explained a few reasons why I think this is better than RDB even if I still don't like that slot, but I would still like Ranmilia/Gira/ted to talk this over with me.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Voice in my head indeed doesn't like rondo but...I think this looks towny

Aaaaaaa

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'm here if people have questions or actual things to discuss. Bereft, where you at?

Who's your top town?

You/Rondo.

Omg Ily this let's me do my stupid plan maybe.

Me stupid plan is to form a 3 way masonry with you and rondo I think you're both lock town and will hard defend you to the death

Thoughts?

When WWA is alive

rondo's posts today are really not it at all but i'm sure if i reread his day 2 i'd remind myself of what i liked from him

Rondo's posts today are defending me who's town so I'd say his posts are more it than yours tbh

i kind of think we're misclearing rondo

Rondo is town I'm like... mostly kinda confident

Day after WWA is alive (+Gira compatibility)


and compare that to now. If you cant see why I see that as fucking sus. I dont know what to tell you

[RondoDimBuckle]

Didnt call me lock town, hmmmmm

[leetic]

I'm here if people have questions or actual things to discuss. Bereft, where you at?

Who's your top town?

You/Rondo.

Omg Ily this let's me do my stupid plan maybe.

Me stupid plan is to form a 3 way masonry with you and rondo I think you're both lock town and will hard defend you to the death

Thoughts?

When WWA is alive

rondo's posts today are really not it at all but i'm sure if i reread his day 2 i'd remind myself of what i liked from him

Rondo's posts today are defending me who's town so I'd say his posts are more it than yours tbh

i kind of think we're misclearing rondo

Rondo is town I'm like... mostly kinda confident

Day after WWA is alive (+Gira compatibility)


and compare that to now. If you cant see why I see that as fucking sus. I dont know what to tell you

This is still "this person has changed their read on someone, isn't that terrible"

[RondoDimBuckle]

My main problem with RDB's "solving" is "this person changed their read on someone" is not strong enough evidence on its own; both alignments do this.

no its not a "they changed their read on me" that is underselling it. It is a never rescind (real). I policy this every game, every time, no passing go no $200

Than you'll policy town a lot

Sure, its the same as people policying for self voting yet people arent getting in a twist over that

If this is a shot at me i don't policy self vote anymore anyways lol

no at everyone who wanted to policy someone else who self voted this game. I forget who

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm here if people have questions or actual things to discuss. Bereft, where you at?

Who's your top town?

You/Rondo.

Omg Ily this let's me do my stupid plan maybe.

Me stupid plan is to form a 3 way masonry with you and rondo I think you're both lock town and will hard defend you to the death

Thoughts?

When WWA is alive

rondo's posts today are really not it at all but i'm sure if i reread his day 2 i'd remind myself of what i liked from him

Rondo's posts today are defending me who's town so I'd say his posts are more it than yours tbh

i kind of think we're misclearing rondo

Rondo is town I'm like... mostly kinda confident

Day after WWA is alive (+Gira compatibility)


and compare that to now. If you cant see why I see that as fucking sus. I dont know what to tell you

So I slowly progressed from a lock town read to a less lock town read to a tinfoil read to full sus

And showed that progression over multiple days

And that's suspicious?

Rondo pls

[RondoDimBuckle]

Eh, [VOTE: Made] aubergine. I think I've explained a few reasons why I think this is better than RDB even if I still don't like that slot, but I would still like Ranmilia/Gira/ted to talk this over with me.

[VOTE: made ] aubergine

[leetic]

My main problem with RDB's "solving" is "this person changed their read on someone" is not strong enough evidence on its own; both alignments do this.

no its not a "they changed their read on me" that is underselling it. It is a never rescind (real). I policy this every game, every time, no passing go no $200

Than you'll policy town a lot

Sure, its the same as people policying for self voting yet people arent getting in a twist over that

If this is a shot at me i don't policy self vote anymore anyways lol

no at everyone who wanted to policy someone else who self voted this game. I forget who

Wasn't it you, or am I misremembering things?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

My main problem with RDB's "solving" is "this person changed their read on someone" is not strong enough evidence on its own; both alignments do this.

no its not a "they changed their read on me" that is underselling it. It is a never rescind (real). I policy this every game, every time, no passing go no $200

Than you'll policy town a lot

Sure, its the same as people policying for self voting yet people arent getting in a twist over that

If this is a shot at me i don't policy self vote anymore anyways lol

no at everyone who wanted to policy someone else who self voted this game. I forget who

Pretty sure that was me lol

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am happy for a 50/50 Ive taken them before and won

[leetic]

My main problem with RDB's "solving" is "this person changed their read on someone" is not strong enough evidence on its own; both alignments do this.

no its not a "they changed their read on me" that is underselling it. It is a never rescind (real). I policy this every game, every time, no passing go no $200

Than you'll policy town a lot

Sure, its the same as people policying for self voting yet people arent getting in a twist over that

If this is a shot at me i don't policy self vote anymore anyways lol

no at everyone who wanted to policy someone else who self voted this game. I forget who

Pretty sure that was me lol

Well, both of you I guess

[RondoDimBuckle]

My main problem with RDB's "solving" is "this person changed their read on someone" is not strong enough evidence on its own; both alignments do this.

no its not a "they changed their read on me" that is underselling it. It is a never rescind (real). I policy this every game, every time, no passing go no $200

Than you'll policy town a lot

Sure, its the same as people policying for self voting yet people arent getting in a twist over that

If this is a shot at me i don't policy self vote anymore anyways lol

no at everyone who wanted to policy someone else who self voted this game. I forget who

Wasn't it you, or am I misremembering things?

I did but people didnt call for my policy

[leetic]

I am happy for a 50/50 Ive taken them before and won

Although Made is almost certain to self-pres if nothing changes

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'm here if people have questions or actual things to discuss. Bereft, where you at?

Who's your top town?

You/Rondo.

Omg Ily this let's me do my stupid plan maybe.

Me stupid plan is to form a 3 way masonry with you and rondo I think you're both lock town and will hard defend you to the death

Thoughts?

When WWA is alive

rondo's posts today are really not it at all but i'm sure if i reread his day 2 i'd remind myself of what i liked from him

Rondo's posts today are defending me who's town so I'd say his posts are more it than yours tbh

i kind of think we're misclearing rondo

Rondo is town I'm like... mostly kinda confident

Day after WWA is alive (+Gira compatibility)


and compare that to now. If you cant see why I see that as fucking sus. I dont know what to tell you

This is still "this person has changed their read on someone, isn't that terrible"

fine, if you say I am being a fuckwit and not AbbiI will switch it to Leet/Ren/Abbi vs ted/gira/made

[leetic]

This is definitely nerve-wracking, it feels like town's win or loss will come down to what I do here. Still, I've been in this position before

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'm here if people have questions or actual things to discuss. Bereft, where you at?

Who's your top town?

You/Rondo.

Omg Ily this let's me do my stupid plan maybe.

Me stupid plan is to form a 3 way masonry with you and rondo I think you're both lock town and will hard defend you to the death

Thoughts?

When WWA is alive

rondo's posts today are really not it at all but i'm sure if i reread his day 2 i'd remind myself of what i liked from him

Rondo's posts today are defending me who's town so I'd say his posts are more it than yours tbh

i kind of think we're misclearing rondo

Rondo is town I'm like... mostly kinda confident

Day after WWA is alive (+Gira compatibility)


and compare that to now. If you cant see why I see that as fucking sus. I dont know what to tell you

So I slowly progressed from a lock town read to a less lock town read to a tinfoil read to full sus

And showed that progression over multiple days

And that's suspicious?

Rondo pls

You know what. Im tired and cranky

[leetic]

My legacy is Abby don't flashvote at LyLo. Though hopefully we'll never get to that point

[RondoDimBuckle]

I wish I could just drop phone number into thread and say text me if you need me but I am just going to bed and fuck it, what ever happens happens

[Porscha]

Porscha what am I not seeing? You helped me see the light in KOTH

brother I get 10 posts with 20 words each / day - rough

possible wolves made/gira (maybe ted as +1)

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I kinda think it's Gira ngl

[leetic]

I kinda think it's Gira ngl

Well, Gira is only ever wolves with Made so flip Made first

[Gira]

I kinda think it's Gira ngl

then fuckin vote me

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I kinda think it's Gira ngl

Well, Gira is only ever wolves with Made so flip Made first

Sure

[Gira]

how's it going i've been enjoying a saturday not playing mafia

[Gira]

My legacy is Abby don't flashvote at LyLo. Though hopefully we'll never get to that point

i assume mechanically we're never going to have locked votes or majority

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I won't be back

I have a thing I promised to do til 6 than I need to be with my girlfriend she needs me right now than I need to sleep than I need to work so

Good luck

[Porscha]

had i known gira was this abrasive all game - wouldn't have tr'd him earlier today

made - undecided

last post

[Made]

do we have a solved game if I die and flip town?

[leetic]

do we have a solved game if I die and flip town?

If you will flip town, wouldn't you want to not die?

[Gira]

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

i read the last two pages in reverse, it's not rondo


i had a flash of uncertainty earlier on ted today but i went to read back on tsp's posts and i still think he is just town from that. i can re-check ted's iso but i highly doubt he is mafia at this point in time

[Made]

i am—maybe unreasonably so— terribly afraid that i survive today (again), we have to flip me in lylo, and we lose

[leetic]

do we have a solved game if I die and flip town?

Also, why the hell ain't you solving?

[Made]

do we have a solved game if I die and flip town?

If you will flip town, wouldn't you want to not die?

transparently, im not sure. I don’t want to be a long term liability. my slot just feels murky—like to put it into perspective, i expected to be the flip today based on yesterday, and I could be, but the way we’re getting there scares me. like I would be a wonderful person to vig imo.

[Gira]

actually now i'm just wondering if rondo is shveling as much shit as possible into the thread now that i step back from being impressed by the volume of it

[Made]

I also learned a little late that I got an extra vote today. I think based on today, Rondo looks really town. lemme see what additional dirt I can dig on gira. questions are welcome in the interim

[leetic]

Come to think of it, Gira's last-minute switch off Made D3 was weird. Maybe it was triggered by pyxxy's weird claim, but what if…?

[Gira]

in general my expectation is mafia in endgamee rarely hard align, their goal is to split the room, sometimes around a false dichotomy

[leetic]

Come to think of it, Gira's last-minute switch off Made D3 was weird. Maybe it was triggered by pyxxy's weird claim, but what if…?

Still, always flip Made over Gira

[Gira]

Come to think of it, Gira's last-minute switch off Made D3 was weird. Maybe it was triggered by pyxxy's weird claim, but what if…?

YOU DID THE SAME EXACT THING???

like yes of course i swapped because i saw a self pres-snipe and reacted on instinct, i don't think that's a hard towntell on my end but if i'm mafia i don't need to care about the wagons that much, if i'm bussing made i just stay on for cred

[leetic]

I kind of wonder if Made is a wolf, maybe they want to be bussed.

[Made]

in general my expectation is mafia in endgamee rarely hard align, their goal is to split the room, sometimes around a false dichotomy

sorry to spray and pray a bit, but want this in writing just incase Im right: That’s why i think i might be right about a ted/gira. I don’t like the noncommittal nature of gira’s read on me/rondo either. It’s giving “okay so after we chop made, we chop rondo or vice versa”

[leetic]

Come to think of it, Gira's last-minute switch off Made D3 was weird. Maybe it was triggered by pyxxy's weird claim, but what if…?

YOU DID THE SAME EXACT THING???

like yes of course i swapped because i saw a self pres-snipe and reacted on instinct, i don't think that's a hard towntell on my end but if i'm mafia i don't need to care about the wagons that much, if i'm bussing made i just stay on for cred

pyxxy was already condemned when I made the switch.

[Gira]

in general my expectation is mafia in endgamee rarely hard align, their goal is to split the room, sometimes around a false dichotomy

sorry to spray and pray a bit, but want this in writing just incase Im right: That’s why i think i might be right about a ted/gira. I don’t like the noncommittal nature of gira’s read on me/rondo either. It’s giving “okay so after we chop made, we chop rondo or vice versa”

i am not arguing that?? wtf

yes' i'm going back and forth because i'm uncertain but i have actively been TRYING to investgate people outside you and rondo where half the game seems hung up on you today


my difficulty with you has been that a lot of the time it's been very hard to figure out what your actual thoughts/analysis are on the game, if you could make that clearer i think that'd be helpful.

[Made]

i guess it's possible ted has figured out the exact right buttons to push to get me to think he's town but he'd be playing a really really good game if so

n other words i think it's incredibly unlikely and would only re-evaluate if the game goes long and he's still alive. to be clear.

@Gira do you still feel this way? i control-f ted in your iso, and this the most direct read I could find.

[Gira]

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

idgaf

if people are hung up on me/ted being maf then kill one of us

[Gira]

i guess it's possible ted has figured out the exact right buttons to push to get me to think he's town but he'd be playing a really really good game if so

n other words i think it's incredibly unlikely and would only re-evaluate if the game goes long and he's still alive. to be clear.

@Gira do you still feel this way? i control-f ted in your iso, and this the most direct read I could find.

i think half the time i've refereed to him as insomnia

but this was my most recent post on him:

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

i read the last two pages in reverse, it's not rondo


i had a flash of uncertainty earlier on ted today but i went to read back on tsp's posts and i still think he is just town from that. i can re-check ted's iso but i highly doubt he is mafia at this point in time

[Made]

in general my expectation is mafia in endgamee rarely hard align, their goal is to split the room, sometimes around a false dichotomy

sorry to spray and pray a bit, but want this in writing just incase Im right: That’s why i think i might be right about a ted/gira. I don’t like the noncommittal nature of gira’s read on me/rondo either. It’s giving “okay so after we chop made, we chop rondo or vice versa”

i am not arguing that?? wtf

yes' i'm going back and forth because i'm uncertain but i have actively been TRYING to investgate people outside you and rondo where half the game seems hung up on you today


my difficulty with you has been that a lot of the time it's been very hard to figure out what your actual thoughts/analysis are on the game, if you could make that clearer i think that'd be helpful.

in a tweet:
it’d be weird if there were one scum or three left so assume two.
combo that make sense to me:
-Abigail x leetic (which if it is them well done, amazing play)
- ted/gira

Im having trouble imaginging rondo with anyone else alive, and that, plus his tsp vote, plus his post today makes him look green af

so it really has to be you and Ted at this point. I could ofc be wrong, but that is my thoughts/anaylsis of the thread.

at the moment im reading for connections between ted and gira to see if there anything there clearing.


also ted, I played scum with you recentlyish right?