The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [ENDGAME]

#2951

Man.....My phone don't speak rap

#2952

Who failed to kill anyone?

Poll ended at Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:26 pm

bea
0
No votes

Boomslang
0
No votes

DharmaHelper
2
Made (16), Boomslang (20)
9%

Elohcin
0
No votes

juliets
0
No votes

Lizzy
0
No votes

Long Con
0
No votes

Lorab
0
No votes

Made
11
timmer (6), Elohcin (8), Long Con (9), juliets (10), DharmaHelper (11), MovingPictures07 (12), Spacedaisy (13), zeek (15), bea (18), Russtifinko (19), nijuukyugou (21)
50%

Mongoose
0
No votes

MovingPictures07
0
No votes

nijuukyugou
0
No votes

reywaS
0
No votes

Russtifinko
0
No votes

sabie12
0
No votes

spacedaisy
2
S~V~S (3), Mongoose (5)
9%

S~V~S
0
No votes

timmer
0
No votes

zeek
0
No votes

Vompatti (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
7
Epignosis (1), Metalmarsh89 (2), Dom (4), Snow Dog (7), Black Rock (14), Bass_the_Clever (17), Roxy (22)
32%

Total votes : 22

#2953

It was Made, in the Aisle, with the Pillbox

After The Bridge of Death was a forest, but the leaves were not plantlike. They were much softer. Everything was, really. The Champions came upon a wedding, one which had no guests, no priests, and no musicians.

The bride stood elegantly at the closer end of the aisle. She wore a white pillbox with a veil in front of her face. She faced the Champions, still clutching her felt flowers.

“Have you seen my fiancé? I haven’t seen him in an awfully long time, and we were supposed to be married in this very spot.”

Upon closer inspection, the Champions noticed that there were in fact guests, a priest, and musicians.

Only their skeletons remained.

“Will you walk me down, handsome? I don’t think my father...made it,” she said to Made.

A nervous but accommodating Made, the gentlemen that he was, began walking her down the aisle in silence.

When they arrived at the end, the bride smiled in thanks, and then lifted the candelabra on the altar above her head. She brought it down upon the hatless Made.

“The rest of you,” she snarled. “You better have a hat by the time my fiancé arrives, or he will not be pleased with you.”

Made has been lynched. He was Mr. Boddy. You have 23 hours to submit your PMs.

#2954

YES!!!!!!! :yay:

So awesome!

#2955

#2956

I think this means that the last Suit is inactive. We'll find out when they fail to kill again though, I'd imagine. Since Made hasn't been around, but clearly was active earlier, that also explains why Mr. Boddy has failed to blackmail recently.

The fact that there was NO MENTION of their target during N7 and that Made was the "relatively active" Suit pretty much convinces me that I was right about that completely inactive Suit being the 4th one.

#2957

Holy moley!!! We made the right decision! RIP Made, you are always fun. See you in the next game.

linki MP: I think it's likely you're right

#2958

MovingPictures07 wrote:I think this means that the last Suit is inactive. We'll find out when they fail to kill again though, I'd imagine. Since Made hasn't been around, but clearly was active earlier, that also explains why Mr. Boddy has failed to blackmail recently.

The fact that there was NO MENTION of their target during N7 and that Made was the "relatively active" Suit pretty much convinces me that I was right about that completely inactive Suit being the 4th one.

You may be right (and thank God I can kiss that Cockney b.s. goodbye now, lol). I'll catch back up tomorrow morning!

#2959

Sadly, that means we have 4 possible Suit candidates and no real way to discern which one is the last one: Lizzy, LoRab, reywaS, and Sabie.

Of course, my theory could be wrong, but I really doubt it at this point.

I'm just so psyched we nailed a baddie with Made!

Linki w/ timmer: I REALLY look forward to hearing what you have to say now that you're not insanified.

#2960

Can anyone explain this hat thing in tonight's poll? It must be from a game I didn't play.

#2961

juliets wrote:Can anyone explain this hat thing in tonight's poll? It must be from a game I didn't play.

It must be from the Felt game, which sadly I did not play.

Maybe Mongoose can provide some insight since she hosted?

#2962

juliets wrote:Can anyone explain this hat thing in tonight's poll? It must be from a game I didn't play.

#2963

Awesome-o! !!!!

Awe....the.Cockney.was starting to grow on me.

My first thought is Hattie but I didn't glance at the.poll yet...

#2964

It was a toss-up between fedora and cowboy hat, but I went with Cowboy because usually when you wear a cowboy hat, you are rockin' it.

Awesome result for Made! Take THAT Mr Boddy, you ain't blackmailing me no more! *stomps on grave*

Sorcerer kill tonight. Hope you guys can stop the baddie trend of failing to kill!

#2965

Whoa, I didn't flippin' see that coming!

Picking trilby since pillbox hat isn't an option. It would probably not surprise you to know that I have a collection of pillbox hats.

#2966

#2967

Floppy hat!

#2968

#2969

Also, what's a pillbox?

#2970

Long Con wrote:It was a toss-up between fedora and cowboy hat, but I went with Cowboy because usually when you wear a cowboy hat, you are rockin' it.

And if you are a woman wearing a cowboy hat you are double rockin' it. I'm also voting cowboy hat.

#2971

Long Con wrote:It was a toss-up between fedora and cowboy hat, but I went with Cowboy because usually when you wear a cowboy hat, you are rockin' it.

Awesome result for Made! Take THAT Mr Boddy, you ain't blackmailing me no more! *stomps on grave*

Sorcerer kill tonight. Hope you guys can stop the baddie trend of failing to kill!

Does Made flipping suit make you think twice about me at least? Given my early case of Made.

#2972

I voted for Trilby. M'lady

#2973

I'm thinking fedora because you know who wore a fedora? Indiana Jones that's who.

#2974

I freaking told everybody Made was bad a thousand years ago!

Also, I hate when celebrities like Justin Timberlake wear trilbies and everyone calls them fedoras. They are not fedoras. Lean your hat styles.

#2975

thellama73 wrote:I freaking told everybody Made was bad a thousand years ago!

Also, I hate when celebrities like Justin Timberlake wear trilbies and everyone calls them fedoras. They are not fedoras. Lean your hat styles.

M'llama

#2976

thellama73 wrote:Also, I hate when celebrities like Justin Timberlake wear trilbies and everyone calls them fedoras. They are not fedoras. Lean your hat styles.

I almost said this very same thing

#2977

Huzzah! The streak we're on with lynches is amazing.

I vote floppy hat, because floppy is the most fun to say.

#2978

thellama73 wrote:Lean your hat styles.

Like this?

#2979

I like fedoras.

I also like lynching baddies, good job to those that led this last one on made.

#2980

Can atone help clarify about exactly the Wizzrobe does?

the role says this: His target (given in the Day) can only target one of four people, as chosen by the Wizzrobe. Wizzrobe cannot be blocked.

So, in the day, the Wizzrobe picks, let's say S~V~S, and assigns her four players - let's say DH, LC, Zeek and me. That night, if SVS has a night power, she can only target one of those four players? Is that the deal?

#2981

err, atone=someone

#2982

Also... @Epig, if a baddie team is completely wiped out, you would announce it, right?

#2983

What is with all these baddies flipping the opposite to what we expect??

#2984

Awesome, and agreed, I did not expect him to be a suit. I kinda disagree with MPs conclusion though.

Also going Trilby

Spacedaisy wrote:This is all I have to say. Someone is being trusted that should not be trusted. I guarantee this. All the people vouching for each other better stop and really consider what my lynch reveal means. I am not upset, I am not doing this to throw a tantrum I am doing this because I honestly think a little solid information is what the civs need right now and until I am out of the game and my role is revealed, it is only going to obscure truth. All I ask is you realize someone is pulling the wool over people's eyes because there is certainly an active baddie in this bunch given the stuff that is happening.

So you are role claiming an info role? I don't believe that because then you would not keep implying I am bad. But perhaps you are right, and what we need to do tomorrow is lynch you so we can get so some truth.

#2985

Spacedaisy wrote:
1. My vote for llama instead of made on Day 2. If we knew that made was bad then it would be a different story but we don't. And I did not think made was lying which was the case against him. And it turned out I was right. So yeah... Civs vote civs all the time. It doesn't make me bad, just wrong in this case.

Well, we do now, so.

Spacedaisy wrote:Well this has certainly made things more interesting... Another Mad Hatter claim would seem to verify what Made was saying, would it not?

Dom, I think a fair amount of the MP voters gave a reason. I kind of think I can do a fair job reading MP, and I feel pretty sure he is a civ based upon what I've seen so far.

I don't understand why people are suspicious of Elo, I've seen nothing out of the ordinary in her play so far.

I think it is likely that we had civ v civ action on Day 2 and the baddies let us run with it. It's an easy out for two lynches if they did, because it would not be until made flipped before we realized it.

I am going to do some re-reading to see if anything jumps out at me.

Linki: I don't see any reasonable connection between the Hatter and Dom.

Spacedaisy wrote:I find myself looking at three options for this lynch. I still do not like the feel of DH after Day 1. Made seems to be making blatantly false statements, if there were any truth in what he was saying, I am sure he would be punished for what he has said. However, there are secret roles and I really can't see why anyone would lie about this, bad or otherwise, so it still leaves me wondering if there is a role that can force you to claim things or act certain ways. It would not be the first time. Then there is the case against llama...

I just don't know which one I feel like is the best place for a vote today.

Spacedaisy wrote:I find Made's claim that he was forced to vote Boomslang too tough to swallow. I doubt Epi would be ok with him announcing that. What I am wondering is if there is a role that might force him to make such an outlandish claim?

#2986

timmer wrote:Also... @Epig, if a baddie team is completely wiped out, you would announce it, right?

No.

#2987

Are you serious, S~V~S? Why are you sticking onto Daisy being bad even now?

I think Boom might have been onto something with S~V~S and DH being on a team, which would explain this power move to keep Daisy a lynch contender.

timmer wrote:Can atone help clarify about exactly the Wizzrobe does?

the role says this: His target (given in the Day) can only target one of four people, as chosen by the Wizzrobe. Wizzrobe cannot be blocked.

So, in the day, the Wizzrobe picks, let's say S~V~S, and assigns her four players - let's say DH, LC, Zeek and me. That night, if SVS has a night power, she can only target one of those four players? Is that the deal?

That's how I interpreted it too. Maybe Epig can confirm?

#2988

If S~V~S and DH are both Sorcerers and we have an inactive Suit, this game is well within the reach of civilians.

#2989

MovingPictures07 wrote:If S~V~S and DH are both Sorcerers and we have an inactive Suit, this game is well within the reach of civilians.

I lay off SD, you don't suspect me. I point out the evidence that points to SD being bad, suddenly I'm bad. I lay off again, you beg hat in hand for my forgiveness, I point out that SD's connection to Made (a Suit) looks even worse for her, and now I'm somehow on a baddie team with the most confirmed civ of all time.

Alright cool.

#2990

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:If S~V~S and DH are both Sorcerers and we have an inactive Suit, this game is well within the reach of civilians.
I lay off SD, you don't suspect me. I point out the evidence that points to SD being bad, suddenly I'm bad. I lay off again, you beg hat in hand for my forgiveness, I point out that SD's connection to Made (a Suit) looks even worse for her, and now I'm somehow on a baddie team with the most confirmed civ of all time.

Alright cool.

Did you not see Boomslang's post? Or do you just not believe it then? What's the theory there: He's bad?

How can Daisy possibly be connected to Made if the Suits missed their kill last time?

Also, my begging was a JOKE, so that's irrelevant.

How is S~V~S a confirmed civ? Please explain to me. Last I checked, Lily Potter could mean she is either Snape or Voldemort.

#2991

(this was an EBWOP that turned into a Linki)

ORIGINAL POST:
MP, Can I ask you (and anyone else feel free to chime in):

If you think I'm a Sorcerer, how would you explain my vote for Dom? Surely you can see the logical gap there. Granted, Snow Dog (A Sorcerer) also voted for Dom, but in what scenario does it make sense for TWO teammates to vote for Dom in such a close lynch?

Even then, how would you explain my vote against Snow Dog? Do you really think so little of me that I would throw two teammates under the bus in one game?

Certainly not. Though again, that you're claiming I'm a sorcerer with SVS (whom you would have to be blind deaf and halfway to stupid not to see is a civ) speaks volumes about how seriously you value your suspicion of me at all.

Addendum:

Bro, the Spacedaisy thing is a tough nut to crack. On the one hand, her connection to Made compounds onto the other evidence against her (Not voting bass, for example). If you can explain to me how Made being Boddy exonerates SD, I'll listen. What Boom thing are you asking about? I'll have to go back and re-read to see if I understand.

And the "Lily Potter" account's avatar was a doe, which is Severus Snape's patronus (an 'avatar of light' used to ward of Dementors that takes the shape of an animal, also dealing with happy memories or some emotional signficance to the caster or some shit IDK been a while since I read the books).

The SVS=Voldemort theory has no legs, because Voldemort's horcruxes had nothing to do with Lily Potter or creating anything resembling what we saw from the Lily Potter account. It makes zero sense.

#2992

DH, it's possible I'm wrong about either or both of you, I just find it REAL convenient and interesting that:
- I had made a post connecting both of you and saying you were both bad ages ago.
- Despite S~V~S being a "confirmed civ" as you say, she is still alive, and it appears Voldemort is still alive. I also have no idea how she was confirmed as Snape and not Voldy. But if you can show me she's Snape, that'd be great.
- You both make this push to lynch Daisy right after the Day period is over, even after Boomslang came in and vouched for Daisy and LC, yet neither of you address whether you believe him or not. And you also fail to address my point about the other Suit likely being completely inactive, although there is strong evidence to suggest that fact due to the last kill PM not sent in. I also find it interesting you came up with all these reasons to push evidence AWAY from that before, in a very manipulative fashion, as I said previously, even though your reasons made no sense.

Linki w/ DH: If you'll recall, I already addressed your vote for Dom. I'll bring it back up.

I'll consider your point about Lily; I'm pretty ignorant of the Harry Potter franchise.

#2993

DH (and others), I made the post about you, Dom, and S~V~S being my top suspects in my giant post that I made after I was silenced and whereafter Dom got mad:

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 75#p106875

There is a LOT in there to connect you and S~V~S, and that's just up until N4.

I also explain your Bass and Dom suspicion and how the way you handled it actually makes it look exactly like you are Dom's teammate.

#2994

Now I know you addressed a lot of that (and well, might I add), but the observations about how you handled the Dom/Bass lynch still stand. And re: Snow Dog, I could easily see you throwing him under the bus to keep yourself alive.

Now, that said, I will mull on your counterarguments (and any others you make), and I will consider the possibility that I'm wrong. There just appears to be a lot of evidence that you both are making a Sorcerers' power play at the moment.

I have a pretty busy day, so I may not be back until D9.

#2995

MovingPictures07 wrote:DH, it's possible I'm wrong about either or both of you, I just find it REAL convenient and interesting that:
- I had made a post connecting both of you and saying you were both bad ages ago.
- Despite S~V~S being a "confirmed civ" as you say, she is still alive, and it appears Voldemort is still alive. I also have no idea how she was confirmed as Snape and not Voldy. But if you can show me she's Snape, that'd be great.
- You both make this push to lynch Daisy right after the Day period is over, even after Boomslang came in and vouched for Daisy and LC, yet neither of you address whether you believe him or not. And you also fail to address my point about the other Suit likely being completely inactive, although there is strong evidence to suggest that fact due to the last kill PM not sent in. I also find it interesting you came up with all these reasons to push evidence AWAY from that before, in a very manipulative fashion, as I said previously, even though your reasons made no sense.

Linki w/ DH: If you'll recall, I already addressed your vote for Dom. I'll bring it back up.

I'll consider your point about Lily; I'm pretty ignorant of the Harry Potter franchise.

Understand this completely;

No theory is a "good" theory unless it can stand up against opposing ideas. The idea that the last Suit is inactive is one way to explain the situation, but it's not the only way. If that is the case, you would surely agree that Made fits the profile of an inactive player up until his lynch, given how sporadically he checked in?

Also, I'm confused, are SVS and I Sorcerers that for some reason are defending Suits? Or am I a Suit deflecting attention away from an inactive teammate? If I am a suit, can you explain why I went after Made Day 2 and expressed suspicion of Bass? Again, you seem to think I value the safety of my teammates very little, which is uncharacteristic of me.

Speaking in regards to your Boom point:

I still suspect Boom, so his "vouching for" (lmao) SD does very little to sway me.

Again, I don't think you'd be bringing any of this up if it was anyone other than SD. Which is perfectly fine, but I'm just suggesting you perhaps consider the idea that you may not be thinking clearly.

#2996

MovingPictures07 wrote:
timmer wrote:Can atone help clarify about exactly the Wizzrobe does?

the role says this: His target (given in the Day) can only target one of four people, as chosen by the Wizzrobe. Wizzrobe cannot be blocked.

So, in the day, the Wizzrobe picks, let's say S~V~S, and assigns her four players - let's say DH, LC, Zeek and me. That night, if SVS has a night power, she can only target one of those four players? Is that the deal?
That's how I interpreted it too. Maybe Epig can confirm?

That's how it works.

#2997

@MP seeing as you think I addressed those points quite well originally, I'll go ahead and leave those original points as I addressed them. I will however reiterate:

1) I came after Made D2 and expressed suspicion of Bass. I continued to express similar suspicions and actively (aggressively, I will admit, but such is my way) expressed frustrations as to the idea of people ignoring Made as a suspect unless either he flipped bad (which was and is hilariously backwards) or someone who voted for llama (such as Bass) flipped bad.

2) I voted for Dom during the Dom/Bass lynch, which doesn't make an incredible amount of sense if I am a Sorcerer. I also brought forward points against Dom, which doesn't make an incredible amount of sense if I was forced to vote for Dom (it would be more logical to be as obvious about the forced vote as others have been)

3) I voted for Snow Dog. Throwing *one* team mate under the bus is something I do not entertain the thought of even on my worst day. Two in the same game is absolutely ridiculous.

So given my opposition to not one, but two players on both mafia teams, how can you genuinely suspect that I am mafia? Even ignoring that argument, how can you suspect that I am mafia *with SVS*?

Again, her being Snape makes the most sense. Spoilers for anyone who hasn't read the books or seen the movies:

One of Snape's secrets is probably his ability to cast his Patronus (a Doe, representing the characters affections for Lily Potter) in order to guide the thread. In the books and the movies, he does this same exact thing in order to secretly guide Harry to a valuable weapon he can use to destroy Voldemort's horcruxes. Voldemorts horcruxes, in contrast, are material objects for the most part that hold no such ability.

#2998

SVS, I am definitely not claiming an info role, that was not a role claim at all actually. Just people are vouching for each other all over the place and now it's getting to where people are narrowing it down based on those connections, but I am definitely not bad so it stands to reason someone or multiple people have successfully pulled the wool over others eyes, which wouldn't be hard considering the baddies have a dead role check basically so this makes it easy for them to know what role would be safe to claim. That was what I was saying.

DH, I can see how made flipping suit looks bad for me, but it does not make me bad. I'm not. And I did not vote made because I did not think he was lying about the message he received and it turned out I was right, remember? Made was bad, yes, but he was not lying about that message.

#2999

Who is it you suspect then SD? Can you reiterate for me?

#3000

I don't have time to read atm, busy day. But....I wanted to say YAY about the lynch

I will catch up this evening!

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