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leetic wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:14 pm Did y'all seriously get rid of another AFK when I was asleep
Try showing up when it matters before you criticize us
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Long Con wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:23 pm
leetic wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:14 pm Did y'all seriously get rid of another AFK when I was asleep
Try showing up when it matters before you criticize us
Shame on me for expecting some basic game sense from y'all. I can't stay up all night
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I’ll have you guys know, while I was posting that my daughter thought she’d emulate me and wash dishes. Right after I posted, she gave up with the cleaning and threw the entire stack on the ground. 😩😩😩🥺🤣
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wait so what was the final vote? 3 v 3 v 3? was the kill randomized?
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DarlingMonroe wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:29 pm wait so what was the final vote? 3 v 3 v 3? was the kill randomized?
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leetic wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:24 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:23 pm
leetic wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:14 pm Did y'all seriously get rid of another AFK when I was asleep
Try showing up when it matters before you criticize us
Shame on me for expecting some basic game sense from y'all. I can't stay up all night
Real convenient. Read the damn thread and tell us what you would have done then genius.
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@Serhal i read your iso (posts in isolation; all of your posts) and i dont think you shot at anyone. just for future reference - its best to shoot asap, ideally a player that's a consensus scumread by everyone. it's okay if they're town - town can now focus their attention elsewhere. if you wait with your shot for too long you risk happening what just happened to you - dying before you get your shot off. and id argue that this is worse for us than if you would have shot any player regardless of what they were
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This bunch seems all right
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

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This bunch I don’t blame for going after Serhal, except for the fact that he is the LHF of this operation, and so it’s more scummy than not.

If pyxxy is indeed a town PR, ok cool. That should self resolve…
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Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:04 pm Scotty
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You can all die
well we know 1 one of them was town
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Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:09 pm Serhal
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Voters: pyxxy, Long Con, DarlingMonroe

This bunch I don’t blame for going after Serhal, except for the fact that he is the LHF of this operation, and so it’s more scummy than not.

If pyxxy is indeed a town PR, ok cool. That should self resolve…
LC is a soggy, floppy chalupa.
DM is ??? And needs sorting.
would you have me voted you instead? or rondo perhaps? or not voted at all?
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DarlingMonroe wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:11 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:09 pm Serhal
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Voters: pyxxy, Long Con, DarlingMonroe

This bunch I don’t blame for going after Serhal, except for the fact that he is the LHF of this operation, and so it’s more scummy than not.

If pyxxy is indeed a town PR, ok cool. That should self resolve…
LC is a soggy, floppy chalupa.
DM is ??? And needs sorting.
would you have me voted you instead? or rondo perhaps? or not voted at all?
would you have rather*
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Of my voters, Robyn is the worst looking. Rondo is just not at all towny. He hasn’t been since his first banana pie to the face. But he also was in a position of self preserve and so ehhhhhhh it’s a mixed bag.

I should not have had any votes today. That I did was big ole opportunistic bullshit. Even if you don’t believe I’m silenced, am I truly your best solve right now?
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DarlingMonroe wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:11 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:04 pm Scotty
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You can all die
well we know 1 one of them was town
Thanks.

Serhal has my permission to die nonetheless
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DarlingMonroe wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:11 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:09 pm Serhal
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Voters: pyxxy, Long Con, DarlingMonroe

This bunch I don’t blame for going after Serhal, except for the fact that he is the LHF of this operation, and so it’s more scummy than not.

If pyxxy is indeed a town PR, ok cool. That should self resolve…
LC is a soggy, floppy chalupa.
DM is ??? And needs sorting.
would you have me voted you instead? or rondo perhaps? or not voted at all?
I think rondo is a GREAT vote.

Why WOULDN’T you vote rondo?
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You’re being weirdly defensive for a read of exactly ??? On your slot
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I can safely sort DM into the scumlean pile.

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Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:14 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:11 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:09 pm Serhal
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This bunch I don’t blame for going after Serhal, except for the fact that he is the LHF of this operation, and so it’s more scummy than not.

If pyxxy is indeed a town PR, ok cool. That should self resolve…
LC is a soggy, floppy chalupa.
DM is ??? And needs sorting.
would you have me voted you instead? or rondo perhaps? or not voted at all?
I think rondo is a GREAT vote.

Why WOULDN’T you vote rondo?
Long Con and Robyn, I guess

which ultimately i dont regret not voting rondo

though it does suck to lose serhal :/
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Scotty... Are you caught up with the town cleared people?
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Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:14 pm You’re being weirdly defensive for a read of exactly ??? On your slot
because i actively tried to campaign for you so you wouldnt have any votes at all because it seemed unfair given the situation, and your response just made me feel some type of way
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Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:14 pm You’re being weirdly defensive for a read of exactly ??? On your slot
I am not allowed to comment on your read on me? And I do, it's defensive? okay scotty
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this tie thing plan was a dumb, for all we know trio of rondo/serhal/scotty are all town; we just guaranteed a civ death
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Wow, I hope your hindsight can help us in the next lynch
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@RondoDimBuckle if you vote for a town your vote counts for 0. if you vote for a mafia your vote counts for 1. did i understand that correctly?

because if so, unless im misunderstanding ur claim, this doesn't give u guaranteed cop peeks

lets say A and B are tied. you are voting A. A gets chopped and flips town. we dont have info on B's alignment, they always win the die

lets say A and B are tied. you are voting A. A gets chopped and flips mafia. we dont have info on B's alignment, it was a tie

lets say A and B are tied. you are voting A. B gets chopped and flips town. we dont have a green peek on A. if A is town, B always wins. But if A is mafia, it's a 50/50 tie between A and B

lets say A and B are tied. you are voting A. B gets chopped and flips mafia. we dont have info on A's alignment. they could be town who always loses, but they could be mafia who was in a 50/50 tie
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

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RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:47 am Since we are outing out things. my vote actually counts for nothing unless I vote for a wolf. Which is why I am thinking pyxxy is wolf for [REDACTED] reasons

But it could just be that [REDACTED] was disorganised at EOD. But no one knew I was going to finish on pyxxy, not even me

I wont say what happens when I vote a wolf but if I can get a tie it can clear the side of the wagon I am on if the other one goes over
the only way this gives u guaranteed pseudo cop peeks is if ur vote counts for 2 when voting a wolf. does it?
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oh wait im a mafia player i cant read

you didnt out your full claim and i missed the part where u say you need to be on the wagon yourself

alright fine, keep your secrets, i'll trust u
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DarlingMonroe wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:20 pm this tie thing plan was a dumb, for all we know trio of rondo/serhal/scotty are all town; we just guaranteed a civ death
if rondo is town (which he most likely is) - he would have just transferred his green peek to another player, if we didnt bag a wolf. assuming he's telling the truth about his role
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the original plan (from what i read) was tie rondo and scotty

that wasn't bad. if scotty is mafia scotty would have always died. if scotty is town we always lose rondo but now scotty is peeked town. so what was the problem? it was a good idea
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

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i think that pyxxy and dm have some w/w equity

specifically if pyxxy is mafia, dm is always mafia

if pyxxy is mafia she doesn't need to be. she might be due to process of elimination, but could still be town

i was very confident on this a few minutes ago but i lost my train of thought about why. let me try to remember what i was thinking
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tutuu wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:46 pm if pyxxy is mafia she doesn't need to be. she might be due to process of elimination, but could still be town
if pyxxy is town*
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

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tutuu wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:46 pm i was very confident on this a few minutes ago but i lost my train of thought about why. let me try to remember what i was thinking
right

pyxxy could have easily been tied. there were multiple suggestions of it

serhal was town. if scotty is town, DM specifically protected pyxxy from being involved in rondo's pseudo cop peek shenanigans, and we had a tie between 3 villagers

@Scotty if you are town, im very confident that from your pov pyxxy is mafia. and if he is, dm is almost always mafia
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

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long con isn't endgaming here if he claimed cop as a wolf. if he is alive at fx obvious reevaluate but should be trusted for now imo. therefore so should rondo
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@RondoDimBuckle do you have some mech information on Scotty now after these wagons and ties?
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tutuu wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:42 pm oh wait im a mafia player i cant read

you didnt out your full claim and i missed the part where u say you need to be on the wagon yourself

alright fine, keep your secrets, i'll trust u
"my vote actually counts for nothing unless I vote for a wolf."

This is pretty clear.
tutuu wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:44 pm the original plan (from what i read) was tie rondo and scotty

that wasn't bad. if scotty is mafia scotty would have always died. if scotty is town we always lose rondo but now scotty is peeked town. so what was the problem? it was a good idea
It was a terrible idea. To clear Scotty, we sacrifice the guaranteed Town that we know? Never ever a good idea.
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whatever the world is, this gives me confirmation im wrong on at least one of my townreads. unless the team is exactly scotty pyxxy dm. which mechanically is still possible depending on rondo's role

unless it's that easy, i'm wrong on at least 1 townread. so that'll be hard to sniff out which one

if pyxxy is town this game is probably unwinnable. im not sure if i wanna invest too much energy trying to solve in hypotethical worlds which are realistically unwinnable

i can try for the sport of it

it would mean multiple wolves between porscha robyn mac abigail leetic. (and pyxxy dm and scotty can still fit in there)
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tutuu wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:51 pm @RondoDimBuckle do you have some mech information on Scotty now after these wagons and ties?
The only info we would get would be that, if Scotty was a Wolf, he would have had a 33% chance of getting eliminated. Since he didn't, we don't know anything about him.
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Long Con wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:54 pm "my vote actually counts for nothing unless I vote for a wolf."

This is pretty clear.
this doesn't produce cop peeks and i laid out why. he then added more stuff about how he doesn't wanna say what happens if he votes a wolf, and that he needs to be on the opposite wagon
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tutuu wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:56 pmit would mean multiple wolves between porscha robyn mac abigail leetic.
That is entirely possible.
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Long Con wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:54 pm It was a terrible idea. To clear Scotty, we sacrifice the guaranteed Town that we know? Never ever a good idea.
if scotty is mafia we kill mafia scotty for free

if scotty is town we transfer rondo's confirmed town status to scotty. we dont lose a confirmed town. we lose an unconfirmed player
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tutuu wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:59 pm @Serhal i read your iso (posts in isolation; all of your posts) and i dont think you shot at anyone. just for future reference - its best to shoot asap, ideally a player that's a consensus scumread by everyone. it's okay if they're town - town can now focus their attention elsewhere. if you wait with your shot for too long you risk happening what just happened to you - dying before you get your shot off. and id argue that this is worse for us than if you would have shot any player regardless of what they were
Any time I play a character with a kill ability like that I prefer to wait a night or two to try and make a more considered kill.

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Long Con wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:56 pm
tutuu wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:51 pm @RondoDimBuckle do you have some mech information on Scotty now after these wagons and ties?
The only info we would get would be that, if Scotty was a Wolf, he would have had a 33% chance of getting eliminated. Since he didn't, we don't know anything about him.
im not sure and i dont wanna assume too much because rondo said he's hiding stuff and i dont trust him. not in the sense that he's not town but i dont trust that we have reliable mech information related to his claim. if he doesn't wanna full claim everything that's fine, but then i'm restricted to asking him if he knows people are town or not mechanically. i cant solve on my own with potentially faulty mech info about how his role works (specifically what happens when he votes a wolf)
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Serhal wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:02 pm @Roxy thanks for hosting!
tutuu wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:59 pm @Serhal i read your iso (posts in isolation; all of your posts) and i dont think you shot at anyone. just for future reference - its best to shoot asap, ideally a player that's a consensus scumread by everyone. it's okay if they're town - town can now focus their attention elsewhere. if you wait with your shot for too long you risk happening what just happened to you - dying before you get your shot off. and id argue that this is worse for us than if you would have shot any player regardless of what they were
Any time I play a character with a kill ability like that I prefer to wait a night or two to try and make a more considered kill.

I can honestly say this'll be my only game here though, so if a mod wants to delete or ban this account that's fine. To be perfectly frank, a lot of this player base comes off as miserable jerks and didn't really inspire a lot of wanting to interact with, and this'll be my last post.
understandable and happy holidays. ho ho ho!
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

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my suggestion for tomorrow

chop pyxxy

if mafia -> chop dm

if town -> cry
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my suggestion

is to keep your distance

cuz right now I'm DANGEROUS
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

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tutuu wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:08 pm my suggestion for tomorrow

chop pyxxy

if mafia -> chop dm

if town -> cry
addendum: this might change pending rondo's verdict of scotty. to be clear im asking for mech verdict, social read is appreciated but not concrete for me
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

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Serhal wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:02 pm @Roxy thanks for hosting!
tutuu wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:59 pm @Serhal i read your iso (posts in isolation; all of your posts) and i dont think you shot at anyone. just for future reference - its best to shoot asap, ideally a player that's a consensus scumread by everyone. it's okay if they're town - town can now focus their attention elsewhere. if you wait with your shot for too long you risk happening what just happened to you - dying before you get your shot off. and id argue that this is worse for us than if you would have shot any player regardless of what they were
Any time I play a character with a kill ability like that I prefer to wait a night or two to try and make a more considered kill.

I can honestly say this'll be my only game here though, so if a mod wants to delete or ban this account that's fine. To be perfectly frank, a lot of this player base comes off as miserable jerks and didn't really inspire a lot of wanting to interact with, and this'll be my last post.
Haha I appreciate the candor.
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MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:16 pm my suggestion

is to keep your distance

cuz right now I'm DANGEROUS
are u town going super saiyan to make a heroic comeback or are u openwolfing going super saiyan coz u can realistically get away with it at this point
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

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tutuu wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:16 pm my suggestion

is to keep your distance

cuz right now I'm DANGEROUS
are u town going super saiyan to make a heroic comeback or are u openwolfing going super saiyan coz u can realistically get away with it at this point
we've all felt like shid

been treated like shid

all you motherfuckers

that wanna step up

I hope you know I'm like a chainsaw
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