Hmm kind of think mafia will win this game if we keep trying to make splits cuz they're already at a numerical advantage that means they can add enough weight to prevent wagons on themselves becoming strong enough to be inside of it.
That is to say I think your role might be unfortunately wolfsiding moving forward @RondoDimBuckle.
I know if I was Mafia that town not feeling permitted to make a runaway would be optimal for the way I like to coordinate a wagonstate. And already has been shown to have created only town wagons. Not sure town can win if we keep going for ties. I think we have enough mechanical clears now we need pelts.
robyn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:02 pm
@Scotty just post normally today and lose ur vote
You! Don't you wanna sing along?
To! My humble yuletide
Dreamed up pool side
Christmas song
Make it a part of your holiday canon
Make it the heart of my retirement plannin'
Do! Sing another Christmas song
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:27 pm
@Long Con I get the impression you are townreading Leetic more strongly than you are me? Maybe even you are still thinking I may be mafia?
You're pretty convincing as Town. I currently have no plans to pursue you as a Wolf.
Mech and feels are making me think Leetic is also Town. If we could get some clarity around role-block-busdrive-Oracle-Abi-Scotty scenario, that would be really helpful.
who do you plan to pursue as wolf?
also you're conf town so just [to you and scotty] i would rather scotty speak this cycle and lose his vote, assuming that there's 0-1 one wolves in [robyn, mac, LC, scotty, rondo] that mean it's always a chop town motivated and scotty's vote is token ig
so like, i want him to talk, more than i want his vote
@Scotty @Long Con @MacDougall thoughts?
Technically Scotty not being able to vote is far worse for town given he can kind of communicate fine through code anyway.
I'm not sure where you got the idea from he would lose his vote to the curse? Was that confirmed somewhere? I missed that.
oh yeah, i thought pyxxy towntold earlier, i cba to find the specific post but it was during the mac/leetic affair and the feeling was particularly strong
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:27 pm
@Long Con I get the impression you are townreading Leetic more strongly than you are me? Maybe even you are still thinking I may be mafia?
You're pretty convincing as Town. I currently have no plans to pursue you as a Wolf.
Mech and feels are making me think Leetic is also Town. If we could get some clarity around role-block-busdrive-Oracle-Abi-Scotty scenario, that would be really helpful.
who do you plan to pursue as wolf?
also you're conf town so just [to you and scotty] i would rather scotty speak this cycle and lose his vote, assuming that there's 0-1 one wolves in [robyn, mac, LC, scotty, rondo] that mean it's always a chop town motivated and scotty's vote is token ig
so like, i want him to talk, more than i want his vote
@Scotty @Long Con @MacDougall thoughts?
Technically Scotty not being able to vote is far worse for town given he can kind of communicate fine through code anyway.
I'm not sure where you got the idea from he would lose his vote to the curse? Was that confirmed somewhere? I missed that.
yeah he said that if he didn't follow the song he'd lose his vote, that is abbie's ability
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:27 pm
@Long Con I get the impression you are townreading Leetic more strongly than you are me? Maybe even you are still thinking I may be mafia?
You're pretty convincing as Town. I currently have no plans to pursue you as a Wolf.
Mech and feels are making me think Leetic is also Town. If we could get some clarity around role-block-busdrive-Oracle-Abi-Scotty scenario, that would be really helpful.
who do you plan to pursue as wolf?
also you're conf town so just [to you and scotty] i would rather scotty speak this cycle and lose his vote, assuming that there's 0-1 one wolves in [robyn, mac, LC, scotty, rondo] that mean it's always a chop town motivated and scotty's vote is token ig
so like, i want him to talk, more than i want his vote
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:44 pm
Technically Scotty not being able to vote is far worse for town given he can kind of communicate fine through code anyway.
fair, but my stance is he loses his vote and speaks and solves
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:27 pm
@Long Con I get the impression you are townreading Leetic more strongly than you are me? Maybe even you are still thinking I may be mafia?
You're pretty convincing as Town. I currently have no plans to pursue you as a Wolf.
Mech and feels are making me think Leetic is also Town. If we could get some clarity around role-block-busdrive-Oracle-Abi-Scotty scenario, that would be really helpful.
who do you plan to pursue as wolf?
also you're conf town so just [to you and scotty] i would rather scotty speak this cycle and lose his vote, assuming that there's 0-1 one wolves in [robyn, mac, LC, scotty, rondo] that mean it's always a chop town motivated and scotty's vote is token ig
so like, i want him to talk, more than i want his vote
LOL I was proud when I got it as "Can't Fucking Tell Who's Right".
I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.
Silence was prevented as per host.
Leetic was roleblocked.
I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.
I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.
I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.
Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?
Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
That is a possibility, but the Oracle SEEMS to have been blocked today. And if "the real Oracle" is a Town role, then they'd have called Leetic out long ago, and certainly today. I don't think he's lying about the role UNLESS it is just that is teammate is the role (and it would follow that THEY were blocked).
BUT
The town roleblocker is dead. So it's likely that a Wolf blocked the Oracle, evidenced in the Host post.
That is extremely unlikely for a Wolf to choose. So my best theory is that the busdriver messed with the Wolf blocker.
WHICH MEANS that the busdriver should get their ass out here and let us know who the damn wolf is that they messed with.
But that hasn't happened. No, wait. Scotty is the busdriver. That fits with his trickle of info so far. Scotty busdrove me on N0, and I never targeted you, Mac? But I was still blocked.
I wish I had a good conclusion, but these are relevant thoughts anyway.
Silent night, holy night
Shepherds quake at the sight
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:44 pm
Technically Scotty not being able to vote is far worse for town given he can kind of communicate fine through code anyway.
fair, but my stance is he loses his vote and speaks and solves
He could post fine yesterday and hardly did. Not guarantee he says much anyway lol.
I'm starting to think the mafia are in the mech anyway.
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
LOL I was proud when I got it as "Can't Fucking Tell Who's Right".
I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.
Silence was prevented as per host.
Leetic was roleblocked.
I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.
I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.
I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.
Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?
Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
That is a possibility, but the Oracle SEEMS to have been blocked today. And if "the real Oracle" is a Town role, then they'd have called Leetic out long ago, and certainly today. I don't think he's lying about the role UNLESS it is just that is teammate is the role (and it would follow that THEY were blocked).
BUT
The town roleblocker is dead. So it's likely that a Wolf blocked the Oracle, evidenced in the Host post.
That is extremely unlikely for a Wolf to choose. So my best theory is that the busdriver messed with the Wolf blocker.
WHICH MEANS that the busdriver should get their ass out here and let us know who the damn wolf is that they messed with.
But that hasn't happened. No, wait. Scotty is the busdriver. That fits with his trickle of info so far. Scotty busdrove me on N0, and I never targeted you, Mac? But I was still blocked.
I wish I had a good conclusion, but these are relevant thoughts anyway.
That makes sense actually. If Abby's claim is real, she probably targeted me (or the real post restrictor did so to make it look like they were Abby). That would mean that the real blocked person was Scotty, and I guess redirecting has a higher priority over roleblocking?
I targeted Tutuu last night as I've claimed
Bubbly Magical Girl who loves Caitlin more than anything in the world!
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
@Scotty if you simply targeted Abigail and made her target you instead of her regular target and there's nothing more to it than that sing the fifth verse of Fairytale of New York please.
I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.
Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?
Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
I don't know. If you can use the fact that the Oracle was roleblocked to try to mislynch the Oracle, maybe you would roleblock the Oracle as a wolf? Furthermore, all this is WIFOM and does not even remotely counter the hard mechanical evidence on my side
Just for the record as an aside are you capable of withstanding accusations in a mafia game without resorting to vitriol and/or spark and/or belittling? Cuz if the answer is no I'll just stop doing it cuz I value my emotional state over the outcome of a mafia game.
Just want to point out you've been hostile and rude to me all game long and I've largely handled it with good faith but ... I can only exercise grace to a point.
If you think blatant bad-faith misinterpretations of my arguments are "nice", then go ahead. I at least was responding to things that you were actually saying
I didn't say nice but also your calling me lame and shit came well beforehand.
I'm literally over it. Like I'm just gonna stop talking to you because your bothering me.
If you think that "lame" is too much for you, maybe you shouldn't be playing mafia. Also wrong "your" again, but I will admit that's being petty
You could always like try listening to people who tell you that you are upsetting them and be a decent human being and stop instead of blaming every person you upset and never looking inwards but that's just my two cents
Bubbly Magical Girl who loves Caitlin more than anything in the world!
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:52 pm
@Scotty if you simply targeted Abigail and made her target you instead of her regular target and there's nothing more to it than that sing the fifth verse of Fairytale of New York please.
Trying to pocket me with my all-time favourite Christmas song, eh?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:22 pm
Stuff got switched around eh.
That's weird.
LC did you get a check?
I know everything changes
Yeah, it's strange how time marches on
Maybe there'll be some time in the future
Oh, tell me I'm not wrong
Whichever host invented post curses in the first place needs to be time paradoxed
There's honestly a fair chance that it was me.
Father Christmas, give us some money
We got no time for your silly toys
We'll beat you up if you don't hand it over
Give all the toys to the little rich boys
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?
Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
I don't know. If you can use the fact that the Oracle was roleblocked to try to mislynch the Oracle, maybe you would roleblock the Oracle as a wolf? Furthermore, all this is WIFOM and does not even remotely counter the hard mechanical evidence on my side
Just for the record as an aside are you capable of withstanding accusations in a mafia game without resorting to vitriol and/or spark and/or belittling? Cuz if the answer is no I'll just stop doing it cuz I value my emotional state over the outcome of a mafia game.
Just want to point out you've been hostile and rude to me all game long and I've largely handled it with good faith but ... I can only exercise grace to a point.
If you think blatant bad-faith misinterpretations of my arguments are "nice", then go ahead. I at least was responding to things that you were actually saying
I didn't say nice but also your calling me lame and shit came well beforehand.
I'm literally over it. Like I'm just gonna stop talking to you because your bothering me.
If you think that "lame" is too much for you, maybe you shouldn't be playing mafia. Also wrong "your" again, but I will admit that's being petty
You could always like try listening to people who tell you that you are upsetting them and be a decent human being and stop instead of blaming every person you upset and never looking inwards but that's just my two cents
I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.
Silence was prevented as per host.
Leetic was roleblocked.
I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.
I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.
I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.
Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?
Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
That is a possibility, but the Oracle SEEMS to have been blocked today. And if "the real Oracle" is a Town role, then they'd have called Leetic out long ago, and certainly today. I don't think he's lying about the role UNLESS it is just that is teammate is the role (and it would follow that THEY were blocked).
BUT
The town roleblocker is dead. So it's likely that a Wolf blocked the Oracle, evidenced in the Host post.
That is extremely unlikely for a Wolf to choose. So my best theory is that the busdriver messed with the Wolf blocker.
WHICH MEANS that the busdriver should get their ass out here and let us know who the damn wolf is that they messed with.
But that hasn't happened. No, wait. Scotty is the busdriver. That fits with his trickle of info so far. Scotty busdrove me on N0, and I never targeted you, Mac? But I was still blocked.
I wish I had a good conclusion, but these are relevant thoughts anyway.
That makes sense actually. If Abby's claim is real, she probably targeted me (or the real post restrictor did so to make it look like they were Abby). That would mean that the real blocked person was Scotty, and I guess redirecting has a higher priority over roleblocking?
She said she targeted Tutuu.
Assuming her claim is real. If it isn't, I am a viable target for the real post restrictor pretending to be Abby. Scotty should just confirm if him + me was the bus drive though.
I wouldn't touch you with a thirty nine and a half foot pole
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:52 pm
@Scotty if you simply targeted Abigail and made her target you instead of her regular target and there's nothing more to it than that sing the fifth verse of Fairytale of New York please.
Trying to pocket me with my all-time favourite Christmas song, eh?
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.
Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?
Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?
That is a possibility, but the Oracle SEEMS to have been blocked today. And if "the real Oracle" is a Town role, then they'd have called Leetic out long ago, and certainly today. I don't think he's lying about the role UNLESS it is just that is teammate is the role (and it would follow that THEY were blocked).
BUT
The town roleblocker is dead. So it's likely that a Wolf blocked the Oracle, evidenced in the Host post.
That is extremely unlikely for a Wolf to choose. So my best theory is that the busdriver messed with the Wolf blocker.
WHICH MEANS that the busdriver should get their ass out here and let us know who the damn wolf is that they messed with.
But that hasn't happened. No, wait. Scotty is the busdriver. That fits with his trickle of info so far. Scotty busdrove me on N0, and I never targeted you, Mac? But I was still blocked.
I wish I had a good conclusion, but these are relevant thoughts anyway.
That makes sense actually. If Abby's claim is real, she probably targeted me (or the real post restrictor did so to make it look like they were Abby). That would mean that the real blocked person was Scotty, and I guess redirecting has a higher priority over roleblocking?
She said she targeted Tutuu.
Assuming her claim is real. If it isn't, I am a viable target for the real post restrictor pretending to be Abby. Scotty should just confirm if him + me was the bus drive though.
I wouldn't touch you with a thirty nine and a half foot pole
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
Good bois use codes.
