Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)

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I propose we kill scrappy doo

Weren’t we on the same team that game?

Either way it’s a sock that may have voting power, might be able to get killed, but generally would be a waste to shoot imo.

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Spoiler: show

Good Morning, West Facility!

My my, you guys are chatty!

I am here today to clarify the "Info Dumping" rules. We have been getting some questions, and I would like to clear it up on day one.

We are trying to prevent statements like, "I am the cop, and I checked SVS last night and she is a wolf". Or "I'm a neighborizer and I have a neighborhood with the tracker and the watcher and they say Scotty is a wolf.". We built a fairly complex game, and this rule helps maintain balance.

We realize that banning info in game spaces can have the side effect of also disallowing fake claims, and, well, if there are no real claims, you don't need to make a fake one

* "I am town" is not a role claim
* "I am a Cop" *IS* a role claim.
* "I am going to kill you" is not a role claim
* I am going to kill you tonight" *IS* a role claim since it implies you have a night kill

Our other point is this; we are happy to answer questions and listen to complaints about this in Discord channels; I love listening to complaints. Please don't complain in thread.

We want everyone to have a good time, including us coming up with penalties and then having to actually use them is no fun for you or us. We are all super smart, successful Mafia champions (you have to be smart to play this game!). We can figure this out.

And again, if you have any concerns/complaints, please not in the thread. Thank You!

This is not an endorsement of QotSA, but this song was very thematic.

Oooo someone in the other threads in trouble

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Anyway, I wonder if we're split randomly or if there's a balance in some way. In Severance, it was pretty clear that there'd likely be an even amount of wolves on both sides for the most part (although PRs were pretty skewed) but I'm not sure that holds up here.

I know this was answered, but I’d assume an equal or near equal amount of mafia in both threads and everything else is random.

If it’s multiball I’d say each team is split, but until we have some proof of that I’ll pretend it doesn’t exist

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I’ll add to the scrappy doo stuff some more.

As already said they were a sock third party. The owner lucy had some goal that I can’t remember now, but it did have voting power and could be killed.

Also falcon was on my team that game not TSP.


I like LC train of thought on the secret Santa thing, that seems very much within his town meta.

Epi is a gut town read.

I’m liking Abigail posts even though she’s creating a town core

I’m eyeing Daisy right now, her play style right now reminds me of muppets, where she was present but a bit flatflooted being mafia.

[Seanzie]

Kinda think Falcon is a wolf.

[Scrappy Doo]

HI

IM HERE

TO KILL MAFIA

WITH MY

PUPPY POWER

YEAH!!!!

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

And here I was...

...rejoicing at not having to look at 81+ posts of cartoons that could get me arrested in some jurisdictions....

...only to realize I was looking at the wrong list of names.

Let’s be real this is the superior half of the game

Rip the east side they’ll probably have a million fluff posts and Gullio/Allison flaming each other over some nonsense (no offense when you eventually read this )

Aww I'm part of the superior half

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

HI

IM HERE

TO KILL MAFIA

WITH MY

PUPPY POWER

YEAH!!!!

Should I tunnel you again?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I’ll add to the scrappy doo stuff some more.

As already said they were a sock third party. The owner lucy had some goal that I can’t remember now, but it did have voting power and could be killed.

Also falcon was on my team that game not TSP.


I like LC train of thought on the secret Santa thing, that seems very much within his town meta.

Epi is a gut town read.

I’m liking Abigail posts even though she’s creating a town core

I’m eyeing Daisy right now, her play style right now reminds me of muppets, where she was present but a bit flatflooted being mafia.

I'm here to be towny and still drive you crazy

[Long Con]

Scrappy, tell us about yourself

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

[Long Con]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Based on his suspicion of you, for saying you would have to read and try?

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Based on his suspicion of you, for saying you would have to read and try?

No. I remembered that I found him sus D0. He doesn't have any of the sharpness that town!Falcon has. Town!Falcon will make plenty of fluffy posts, but will also interject with some pointed, mildly aggressive questions and observations. Scum!Falcon doesn't do that second part, and I didn't see any of that D0. Today, him voting me without pushing or real reason just corroborates this view.

[falcon45ca]

Epignosis: GTH wolf, the jump on me is lame (I mean, there's nutella?)

nutella isn't locked in here with me, is she?

There was no jump on your either. You're calling it a jump. I'm telling you I don't know where you stand after 22 posts of Day 0 complaints.

And your point is?

I think his point is obvious, don't you?






Do you feel town should make themselves readable by other town?

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Based on his suspicion of you, for saying you would have to read and try?

No. I remembered that I found him sus D0. He doesn't have any of the sharpness that town!Falcon has. Town!Falcon will make plenty of fluffy posts, but will also interject with some pointed, mildly aggressive questions and observations. Scum!Falcon doesn't do that second part, and I didn't see any of that D0. Today, him voting me without pushing or real reason just corroborates this view.

You said there weren't any players you had feelings about in this...side game? I don't know what to call where we are now






I also recall you stating N0 you found me wolfy







Why did you lie?

[Scrappy Doo]

Scrappy, tell us about yourself

Dog

Bark

[Long Con]

There’s a button here to call someone to unlock the case. The button doesn’t do anything. I found someone and she told me to go to customer service and they’d have to page someone. So I go to the customer service guy on the other side of the store and he says “well let me check who’s over there” and walks like a video game character you have to follow to complete a quest across the store to the automotive section, where he looks around and says “there’s no one here, I’ll have to go page someone”. Then he walks back to the customer service case at a pace that would make a snail blush and 10 minutes later I hear the announcement over the intercom, someone to I25. That was 10 minutes ago. I’m still here.

When I first read this, I thought you were writing some short fiction or something. I was hooked by the end of the second sentence, gets you right into the tension.

So how long did it finally take, and did you get it changed?

[falcon45ca]

A teammate would be nice right about now.

Hate to use this term, but LAMIST

I suspect leetic and nutella have that advantage. Their Day 0 interaction was goofy and over the top. It was acting. Check it out.

Have you seen our interactions in Philosophy 2? That was nothing.

Unprompted, leetic brings up nutella in this thread by way of accusing me as though I can do jack shit about it. Acting.

You said I never suspected anyone, then I bring up someone I had openly suspected, and now you wanna play dumb?

Why use the term LAMIST if you dislike it, especially to describe a post that is borderline LAMIST?

[falcon45ca]

I too read very little of Night 0.

LAMIST?







Maybe

[Long Con]

A teammate would be nice right about now.

Hate to use this term, but LAMIST

I suspect leetic and nutella have that advantage. Their Day 0 interaction was goofy and over the top. It was acting. Check it out.

Have you seen our interactions in Philosophy 2? That was nothing.

Unprompted, leetic brings up nutella in this thread by way of accusing me as though I can do jack shit about it. Acting.

You said I never suspected anyone, then I bring up someone I had openly suspected, and now you wanna play dumb?

Why use the term LAMIST if you dislike it, especially to describe a post that is borderline LAMIST?

Did you ask that pointed, mildly aggressive question just because of what Seanzie said?

[falcon45ca]

Instead you get this one.

Fuckin bad ass storyline, one of Iron Man's best

[Long Con]

I too read very little of Night 0.

LAMIST?







Maybe

Now you're being lamest.

[falcon45ca]

A teammate would be nice right about now.

Hate to use this term, but LAMIST

I suspect leetic and nutella have that advantage. Their Day 0 interaction was goofy and over the top. It was acting. Check it out.

Have you seen our interactions in Philosophy 2? That was nothing.

Unprompted, leetic brings up nutella in this thread by way of accusing me as though I can do jack shit about it. Acting.

You said I never suspected anyone, then I bring up someone I had openly suspected, and now you wanna play dumb?

Why use the term LAMIST if you dislike it, especially to describe a post that is borderline LAMIST?

Did you ask that pointed, mildly aggressive question just because of what Seanzie said?

Haha, no but the Beetlejuice irony is not lost on me

[Long Con]

Instead you get this one.

Fuckin bad ass storyline, one of Iron Man's best

Character-defining.

[falcon45ca]

I too read very little of Night 0.

LAMIST?







Maybe

Now you're being lamest.

Totes lame is my preferential method of lame

[Long Con]

A teammate would be nice right about now.

Hate to use this term, but LAMIST

I suspect leetic and nutella have that advantage. Their Day 0 interaction was goofy and over the top. It was acting. Check it out.

Have you seen our interactions in Philosophy 2? That was nothing.

Unprompted, leetic brings up nutella in this thread by way of accusing me as though I can do jack shit about it. Acting.

You said I never suspected anyone, then I bring up someone I had openly suspected, and now you wanna play dumb?

Why use the term LAMIST if you dislike it, especially to describe a post that is borderline LAMIST?

Did you ask that pointed, mildly aggressive question just because of what Seanzie said?

Haha, no but the Beetlejuice irony is not lost on me

Yeah, pretty bang-on.

@Seanzie do you believe this shit?

[Long Con]

I too read very little of Night 0.

LAMIST?







Maybe

Now you're being lamest.

Totes lame is my preferential method of lame

It was totes lame to sit in the motel seat.

[Long Con]

Scrappy, tell us about yourself

Dog

Bark

LAMIST

[falcon45ca]

Day 0 was 14 pages of mostly shit. Sorry. I wanted so much more.

What exactly do you mean by 'so much more'?







It's N0, there no flips for info. Discussion is what the game is, and N0 was full of discussion. Why does that bother you?







What would have satisfied your N0 expectations?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

That conversation was really lame

[Long Con]

Also, no one I had any feelings about are in this group... Oh well.

This should be taken as a positive.

It puts me back at square one and means I'll actually need to read and pay attention a bit.

So, if you had been placed w/ players you do have feelings about, you wouldn't need to read & pay attention?

This one also arguably satisfies the criteria, "pointed, mildly aggressive questions or observations".

[falcon45ca]

I suspect the other thread is lapping us in terms of post count.

Hmmmmm...do post count, or post quality matter more?






This feels like posting for the sake of posting

[Long Con]

That conversation was really lame

[falcon45ca]

That conversation was really lame

I recall enjoying myself

[falcon45ca]

ok seriously I didn't really count at first but what's scrappy doo

Sock puppet account from Scooby-Doo Maf IIRC, I suspect the same is true here

[Sloonei]

I suspect the other thread is lapping us in terms of post count.

Hmmmmm...do post count, or post quality matter more?






This feels like posting for the sake of posting

It sure is.

[falcon45ca]

So for example, me taking the time to explain all that when I said I didnt have time and also didn't create content, was probably LAMIST

So is this acknowledgement

[falcon45ca]

I suspect the other thread is lapping us in terms of post count.

Hmmmmm...do post count, or post quality matter more?






This feels like posting for the sake of posting

It sure is.

What's your motivation behind that speculation?

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: sloon] aubergine

[Sloonei]

I suspect the other thread is lapping us in terms of post count.

Hmmmmm...do post count, or post quality matter more?






This feels like posting for the sake of posting

It sure is.

What's your motivation behind that speculation?

I had a thought, and then I converted that thought into finger movements over my keyboard. Then, I pressed "Submit." The whole process resulted in very mild amusement.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Based on his suspicion of you, for saying you would have to read and try?

No. I remembered that I found him sus D0. He doesn't have any of the sharpness that town!Falcon has. Town!Falcon will make plenty of fluffy posts, but will also interject with some pointed, mildly aggressive questions and observations. Scum!Falcon doesn't do that second part, and I didn't see any of that D0. Today, him voting me without pushing or real reason just corroborates this view.

You said there weren't any players you had feelings about in this...side game? I don't know what to call where we are now






I also recall you stating N0 you found me wolfy







Why did you lie?

I didn't lie, persay, when I made the first post, my initial sus of you had slipped my mind. That's the whole "I remembered" thing. I also realized Caitlin is in our group (I think?) so I was wrong on multiple accounts.

[Seanzie]

A teammate would be nice right about now.

Hate to use this term, but LAMIST

I suspect leetic and nutella have that advantage. Their Day 0 interaction was goofy and over the top. It was acting. Check it out.

Have you seen our interactions in Philosophy 2? That was nothing.

Unprompted, leetic brings up nutella in this thread by way of accusing me as though I can do jack shit about it. Acting.

You said I never suspected anyone, then I bring up someone I had openly suspected, and now you wanna play dumb?

Why use the term LAMIST if you dislike it, especially to describe a post that is borderline LAMIST?

Did you ask that pointed, mildly aggressive question just because of what Seanzie said?

Haha, no but the Beetlejuice irony is not lost on me

Yeah, pretty bang-on.

@Seanzie do you believe this shit?

I'm just watching for now.

[Long Con]

My friends are coming over today cuz it was my bday two days ago so I wont rlly be here today sorry

So do we all think the Secret Santa thing is positive? If so, any thoughts on me giving mine to Cape? I townread Cape & WWA the most on the other side and afaik WWA is a pretty controversial one making me lead towards giving it to Cape

I'd call this the right kind of reason to give someone a Secret Santa.

[Seanzie]

Also, no one I had any feelings about are in this group... Oh well.

This should be taken as a positive.

It puts me back at square one and means I'll actually need to read and pay attention a bit.

So, if you had been placed w/ players you do have feelings about, you wouldn't need to read & pay attention?

This one also arguably satisfies the criteria, "pointed, mildly aggressive questions or observations".

I disagree. It's a useless made to create a reason to post a vote no matter what I say. My post clearly implied the answer to the question he asked.

[falcon45ca]

I just got a text from the Gov't, saying there's been a tax error in my favour!








All I need to do is text them my SIN & CC numbers...just gotta hit send, and I'm rich!

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine

[Long Con]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Based on his suspicion of you, for saying you would have to read and try?

No. I remembered that I found him sus D0. He doesn't have any of the sharpness that town!Falcon has. Town!Falcon will make plenty of fluffy posts, but will also interject with some pointed, mildly aggressive questions and observations. Scum!Falcon doesn't do that second part, and I didn't see any of that D0. Today, him voting me without pushing or real reason just corroborates this view.

Does it corroborate the first view though? "Voting without pushing or real reason" isn't the same as "doesn't interject with pointed, mildly aggressive etc." Right? But you are saying it does, and I just detect some level of fakeness going on here, both from the fact that falcon HAD asked such a question prior to this, and for the dodgy corroboration and general vibe.

[VOTE: seanzie] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Based on his suspicion of you, for saying you would have to read and try?

No. I remembered that I found him sus D0. He doesn't have any of the sharpness that town!Falcon has. Town!Falcon will make plenty of fluffy posts, but will also interject with some pointed, mildly aggressive questions and observations. Scum!Falcon doesn't do that second part, and I didn't see any of that D0. Today, him voting me without pushing or real reason just corroborates this view.

You said there weren't any players you had feelings about in this...side game? I don't know what to call where we are now






I also recall you stating N0 you found me wolfy







Why did you lie?

I didn't lie, persay, when I made the first post, my initial sus of you had slipped my mind. That's the whole "I remembered" thing. I also realized Caitlin is in our group (I think?) so I was wrong on multiple accounts.

I find it odd that you would be that absent minded







Town tend to have a lot more of a laser-like focus on their suspicions without any new info







What are your reads outside of my slot?

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Based on his suspicion of you, for saying you would have to read and try?

No. I remembered that I found him sus D0. He doesn't have any of the sharpness that town!Falcon has. Town!Falcon will make plenty of fluffy posts, but will also interject with some pointed, mildly aggressive questions and observations. Scum!Falcon doesn't do that second part, and I didn't see any of that D0. Today, him voting me without pushing or real reason just corroborates this view.

Does it corroborate the first view though? "Voting without pushing or real reason" isn't the same as "doesn't interject with pointed, mildly aggressive etc." Right? But you are saying it does, and I just detect some level of fakeness going on here, both from the fact that falcon HAD asked such a question prior to this, and for the dodgy corroboration and general vibe.

[VOTE: seanzie] aubergine

Let me know when you want to read the words I wrote without filling in things I didn't say. I found Falcon's D0 questionable. I found Falcon's vote on my questionable. I never said that Falcon's vote was exactly the same thing as Falcon's vote on me, but that the lackluster approach to the vote corroborated my earlier view.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Based on his suspicion of you, for saying you would have to read and try?

No. I remembered that I found him sus D0. He doesn't have any of the sharpness that town!Falcon has. Town!Falcon will make plenty of fluffy posts, but will also interject with some pointed, mildly aggressive questions and observations. Scum!Falcon doesn't do that second part, and I didn't see any of that D0. Today, him voting me without pushing or real reason just corroborates this view.

You said there weren't any players you had feelings about in this...side game? I don't know what to call where we are now






I also recall you stating N0 you found me wolfy







Why did you lie?

I didn't lie, persay, when I made the first post, my initial sus of you had slipped my mind. That's the whole "I remembered" thing. I also realized Caitlin is in our group (I think?) so I was wrong on multiple accounts.

I find it odd that you would be that absent minded







Town tend to have a lot more of a laser-like focus on their suspicions without any new info







What are your reads outside of my slot?

You're probably not realizing that I only reluctantly joined this game because... idk because mafia is hard to stay away from, and I'd rather not get too sucked into it since my IRL life and career seem to have an inverse relationship with how hard I play mafia.

I don't have any well-formed reads on anyone else. I don't even know what my read on your slot is right now.