Game of Champions: East Facility (Night 2)

[nutella]

Welp
Now you all know that I've been pushing Nutella for absolutely no reason at all
Lol me

?? But like, I never understood your point, even if I was outright telling you that I suggested/recommended you townread falcon specifically, what would be wrong with that? That's how giving opinions works

Because I thought you were telling me to townread falcon instead of calling falcon/Guillo unpaired
Which is like... idk where I even got that from, it didn't make sense which is why I thought it was sus lol
Cause when I said falcon/Guillo is unpaired I was implying that they weren't w/w but one of them could be

Anyway, this whole thing was completely pointless because there was no logic behind it lmao

But I mean if I did tell you to, why would that be bad

Because it wouldn't make sense in context
Like when you said in this thread that falcon is town and I should take the L, I didn't think that was scummy
But telling me to townread my scumread after I made an association read was weird because I didn't understand why you'd tell me to townread falcon and not mention Guillo

ok sure

my pov was just that falcon was towny and i thought guillo should be read independently of that and the unpairing was silly as a specific association anyway but i kinda see what you mean ig

[WindwardAway]

Like I'm actually confused that this is some big revelation when what you were pushing already didn't make sense to push

Because it was an association read and I interpreted that post as you focusing on only half of it

[Cape90]

Towny:
Wwa
Creature
Nutella
Nook

Squint
Cape
Wilgz
Lemon

Scummy
Alison
Limecoke

Also Lime Coke didn't even post?

Brad's n0 reads were bad and him being 0 poster adds up to him being in his wolf meta.

@Sabiplz You said it here but maybe you meant posts just given you seemed confused on that.

Very tempting to push LimeCoke though because his posts since he's showed up have been pretty bad

[Creature]

I think this game is going wrong very quickly

[Creature]

Why is Davos voting nutella?

[Creature]

Holy shit it's the Game of Chmapions!

Oh he had the decency to not 0-post

I'm pulling a you and doing nothing.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

[WindwardAway]

Welp
Now you all know that I've been pushing Nutella for absolutely no reason at all
Lol me

?? But like, I never understood your point, even if I was outright telling you that I suggested/recommended you townread falcon specifically, what would be wrong with that? That's how giving opinions works

Because I thought you were telling me to townread falcon instead of calling falcon/Guillo unpaired
Which is like... idk where I even got that from, it didn't make sense which is why I thought it was sus lol
Cause when I said falcon/Guillo is unpaired I was implying that they weren't w/w but one of them could be

Anyway, this whole thing was completely pointless because there was no logic behind it lmao

But I mean if I did tell you to, why would that be bad

Because it wouldn't make sense in context
Like when you said in this thread that falcon is town and I should take the L, I didn't think that was scummy
But telling me to townread my scumread after I made an association read was weird because I didn't understand why you'd tell me to townread falcon and not mention Guillo

ok sure

my pov was just that falcon was towny and i thought guillo should be read independently of that and the unpairing was silly as a specific association anyway but i kinda see what you mean ig

The only reason I made that post is because Guillo was reacting so viscerally to falcon's posts
And tbh at that time anyway, I was leaning Guillo town and falcon scum
But Guillo had also made an earlier association post that caught a lot of flak, and I'm ngl I was in the mood to stir the pot by doing the same thing and waiting to see who commented on it
Sig, notably, commented on Guillo's pairing read but not on mine, which is why they were on my radar
And then they just scumread me after that so whatever lol

[Cape90]

DarlingMonroe is another name that has been floating in my head because they really haven't done anything, like i have seen they have just given like 5 townreads to people they know in this game but thats all i have seen from them content wise so far besides like pinging brad (limecoke)

[WindwardAway]

Why is Davos voting nutella?

Idk
Could be a player here or could be from the other thread, as was suggested earlier if that's a possible game mechanic

[WindwardAway]

Towny:
Wwa
Creature
Nutella
Nook

Squint
Cape
Wilgz
Lemon

Scummy
Alison
Limecoke

Also Lime Coke didn't even post?

Brad's n0 reads were bad and him being 0 poster adds up to him being in his wolf meta.

@Sabiplz You said it here but maybe you meant posts just given you seemed confused on that.

Very tempting to push LimeCoke though because his posts since he's showed up have been pretty bad

So far he's said hi and not posted anything game-related
Which is not such a terrible opener from him, except that he zeroposted up to that point
Smells like frozen wolf, I'd jump on the bandwagon there tbh

[Cape90]

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine

Because I am tired of voteparking Alison

what makes you suspicious of me? You were talking about looking into the voters of you and in a lot of town games, you tend to OMGUS a lot when I was very firmly townreading your slot the whole time

[Creature]

Why is Davos voting nutella?

Idk
Could be a player here or could be from the other thread, as was suggested earlier if that's a possible game mechanic

Seems like it's a player here, but also pretty unnoticeable player

[Creature]

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine

Because I am tired of voteparking Alison

what makes you suspicious of me? You were talking about looking into the voters of you and in a lot of town games, you tend to OMGUS a lot when I was very firmly townreading your slot the whole time

It's probably sheeping

Someone said your response to pressure wasn't good and so I thought (still think) you're a potential hit

[Creature]

It was like either voting you, the 0-posting Lime Coke or Alison who gets frequently mislynched D1 for some reason

[Cape90]

The silly premise is that -- the argument that does exist for the idea of pressuring a zero poster is not that they are lurking the thread but that they have teammates in mafia chat who would alert them to their pressure and remind them to post. I do think that this is a silly premise that almost never comes up in reality. However, you did not even consider that and only assumed Lime would have to discover the vote on his own. Hence it could be that you know there's no chance Lime would have a wolf chat to notify him


Yes it's a stretch but occasionally minor perspective issues like this are legit

well, lime posted night 0 which just means he took extended time to migrate over to this thread

[Cape90]

Towny:
Wwa
Creature
Nutella
Nook

Squint
Cape
Wilgz
Lemon

Scummy
Alison
Limecoke

Also Lime Coke didn't even post?

Brad's n0 reads were bad and him being 0 poster adds up to him being in his wolf meta.

@Sabiplz You said it here but maybe you meant posts just given you seemed confused on that.

Very tempting to push LimeCoke though because his posts since he's showed up have been pretty bad

So far he's said hi and not posted anything game-related
Which is not such a terrible opener from him, except that he zeroposted up to that point
Smells like frozen wolf, I'd jump on the bandwagon there tbh

i have yet to even read your response, so i will get there when i get there

[Creature]

idk how AI it is for BlueKang to post like 6 times N0 then go missing most of day 1 only to show up and do nothing, but also I feel like the "I'm pulling a you and doing nothing" response is pretty much unwarranted rudeness that's more likely to come from wolves trying to sound careless town than actual town. I suppose actual town wouldn't act rude this freely, while wolves can get away with rudeness if that's strategic rudeness.

[Cape90]

The silly premise is that -- the argument that does exist for the idea of pressuring a zero poster is not that they are lurking the thread but that they have teammates in mafia chat who would alert them to their pressure and remind them to post. I do think that this is a silly premise that almost never comes up in reality. However, you did not even consider that and only assumed Lime would have to discover the vote on his own. Hence it could be that you know there's no chance Lime would have a wolf chat to notify him


Yes it's a stretch but occasionally minor perspective issues like this are legit

i think we've all randed mafia with afk teammates enough to know that pinging them in scumchat and go "yo you're getting run up" doesn't do anything. lol

this post reminded me of a thought I had

I feel like the low posters of night 0 are more likely to be wolf, like 10 posts under/or fluffing the entire time.

I just remember when I was in Battle of the Bands mafia as mafia, and this game was sort of nightless, but while town was posting content then, i was like "haha no im not gonna do that" like the entire game, and i feel like the same can be said for people participating in night 0 of this game, probably to a lesser extent but still.

[Creature]

Also a small part of me thinks wolf!Alison would try better than just let herself get wagoned D1 and do jackshit about it? It feels pretty low effort for her to just come up and say nearly nothing to being wagoned or bringing anything else to the table. Maybe if she was a wolf she would try to take a bit of the leadership?

Though I don't know how to read Alison at all and maybe this is just her breaking her wolf meta or something.

[Michelle]

Idk. I will be dissapointed if Brad flips town

But his lack of content makes him Poe and better earlier than later.

@Lime Coke do you have anything to share?

[Creature]

The silly premise is that -- the argument that does exist for the idea of pressuring a zero poster is not that they are lurking the thread but that they have teammates in mafia chat who would alert them to their pressure and remind them to post. I do think that this is a silly premise that almost never comes up in reality. However, you did not even consider that and only assumed Lime would have to discover the vote on his own. Hence it could be that you know there's no chance Lime would have a wolf chat to notify him


Yes it's a stretch but occasionally minor perspective issues like this are legit

i think we've all randed mafia with afk teammates enough to know that pinging them in scumchat and go "yo you're getting run up" doesn't do anything. lol

this post reminded me of a thought I had

I feel like the low posters of night 0 are more likely to be wolf, like 10 posts under/or fluffing the entire time.

I just remember when I was in Battle of the Bands mafia as mafia, and this game was sort of nightless, but while town was posting content then, i was like "haha no im not gonna do that" like the entire game, and i feel like the same can be said for people participating in night 0 of this game, probably to a lesser extent but still.

There are a lot of AFK/slanking players in this game it seems.

Also kinda wondering if this is just BlueKang not in the mood to play the game, so I am not set on him being a wolf even though he's more likely than not.

[Lime Coke]

Holy shit it's the Game of Chmapions!

Oh he had the decency to not 0-post

I'm pulling a you and doing nothing.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Can't handle the truth can you?

[Creature]

Holy shit it's the Game of Chmapions!

Oh he had the decency to not 0-post

I'm pulling a you and doing nothing.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Can't handle the truth can you?

I don't get why you keep doing this. It does feel so fake.

[Lime Coke]

Holy shit it's the Game of Chmapions!

Oh he had the decency to not 0-post

I'm pulling a you and doing nothing.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Can't handle the truth can you?

I don't get why you keep doing this. It does feel so fake.

Because it's fun.

[Creature]

Ftr I am not calling you an indecent player. I was just saying 0-posting would be a very indecent move regardless of alignment. Even slanking wolves would try to post at least the bare minimum.

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Radishes
Rondo

^wolves

[Michelle]

Welp
Now you all know that I've been pushing Nutella for absolutely no reason at all
Lol me

What are your reads for this thread?

Still think Alison could be scum tbh
Nutella's posts make sense now with the context that I was tunnelling her for no good reason
I read Guillo's slot as mostly towny with a couple of strange posts, I haven't seen enough from Creature yet to be confident in that
I think you're town
I have a nullread on Rondo
I townread Cape
I'm slightly suspicious of Sabi but I kinda think they're right on Lime Coke
And I think Lime Coke is playing like frozen scum
I don't have reads on Wilgy, DM or Dizzy
I asked Lemon a question on her readlist and I haven't seen a reply about it yet, but I mightve missed it
when I said earlier that I had 4 scumreads who knew who they were, I fucked up and mixed up the player list and secret santa list, half of them went into each thread (falcon and sig were the two others, but in fairness I only had sig on that list because of the impression I got from two of their posts on N0)

Thanks!
The players you don't have a read on, did you ever play with them? (Rondo, DM, Dizzy, Wilgy)

[Master Radishes]

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Radishes
Rondo

^wolves

Lol

You only ever wolf read me when you're a wolf.

[Lime Coke]

Plus I don't really like you most of your takes end up being stupid.

[Michelle]

Holy shit it's the Game of Chmapions!

Oh he had the decency to not 0-post

I'm pulling a you and doing nothing.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Can't handle the truth can you?

I don't get why you keep doing this. It does feel so fake.

Because it's fun.

It's not...

[Lime Coke]

Either that or flat out fucking tone deaf at times.

[Creature]

Plus I don't really like you most of your takes end up being stupid.

Whatever I'll just ignore you and won't care if you end up lynched

[Master Radishes]

I'm on board with Alison or Brad btw.

Both are showing attitudes I've seen from wolf them lately. Have scummed with both recently ish.

[Michelle]

Sigh..

Inb4 Brad is a jester and he just wants to win...

[Michelle]

I'm on board with Alison or Brad btw.

Both are showing attitudes I've seen from wolf them lately. Have scummed with both recently ish.

Links please

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Radishes
Rondo

^wolves

Lol

You only ever wolf read me when you're a wolf.

I do not recall

Only recall wolf reading you correctly in our first game

And then a bunch of iconic town games together

Kind of think you’re wolf

This reply bad

You want to call me wolf here?

[Lime Coke]

I'm on board with Alison or Brad btw.

Both are showing attitudes I've seen from wolf them lately. Have scummed with both recently ish.

You are broken, just like Carson Soucy.

[Creature]

Sigh..

Inb4 Brad is a jester and he just wants to win...

Yawn this is a big possibility

If he is a jester this game will serve as a good example as to why jesters are inherently unfun for every other player

[Cape90]

The more I read into Caitlin the less i like

#379 Seanzie lock town btw, tell west facility all this totally useful information

I understand the need to talk about your reads but what about the players we have here?

#579 is a more nuanced take then nutella then i have seen in their scum game with me, so take that as you will, I generally find this portion of nutella's n0 towny though

This is better, but I would like more reads for toDay's posts

#602

@nutella I disagree with sig being town because I saw things about them hunting 3p night 0, Guillo pointed it out #451

Agree about Sig, but we don't have him here :/

The more I read into Caitlin the less i like

#379 Seanzie lock town btw, tell west facility all this totally useful information

You know what would be cool, that we get moved to whatever the other facility is on fay 2 so we get to read what went down there and the same for them.

Yeah actually that would be kinda cool, unfortunately that isn't what happened in Severance when there was a split there, but I won as wolf in that game, was easy because my thread was pretty dead so i could just chill out and blend in with not too much effort

Tell me more about that game split mechs pls

1. it's just a thought I had, maybe it could be useful later if we aren't separated forever. Town are more likely to openly move around reads (even if Seanzie did so at least half-jokingly).

2. Early on today, I was still looking at night 0 for content page by page as i missed like 10 pages.

3. Again, could be useful later, but could be not depending on what the other thread is doing.

4. As wolves, distribution was fairly even between both threads, one thread was more chaotic then the other, as wolf i would get updated on each thread's status. there was a 3p in the game that was able to look at both threads, i forget what ability they had (this was Delta btw). it converged eventually back into 1 thread as soon as more people were eliminated, happened i think like day 4/day 3 something like that.

[Cape90]

#317night0

@WindwardAway

this is one of the most pointless questions of my life but i just have to know, how do you tinfoil someone in a masonry? They are literally mason and not neighbor right? which means they would be confirmed town?

Sorry for this question, I was reading up on you and didn't want to include this LOL

Oh my bad
it was a neighborhood but on that forum they just call them unconfirmed masonries lol

im also burned on neighborhoods dont worry, i keep being put in ones with wolves in them

[Master Radishes]

I'm on board with Alison or Brad btw.

Both are showing attitudes I've seen from wolf them lately. Have scummed with both recently ish.

You are broken, just like Carson Soucy.

Lmao nice research

[Creature]

I think there is a grand total of 7-8 wolves + a couple of third parties

So if threads were split evenly this thread prob has 3-4 wolves and 0-2 third parties

[Master Radishes]

I'm on board with Alison or Brad btw.

Both are showing attitudes I've seen from wolf them lately. Have scummed with both recently ish.

Links please

In a bit. On phone walking dog.

[Creature]

I guess I am temporarily townbinning Wind and nutella because at least they seem to be playing and don't seem wolf

Actually maybe not nutella, some takes felt kinda weird, just not considering them today

[Creature]

The Wind wagon is weird

Why is it a wagon?

[Lime Coke]

Plus I don't really like you most of your takes end up being stupid.

Whatever I'll just ignore you and won't care if you end up lynched

Sooooo the normal stuff with you being useless?

[Cape90]

Forgot one other I wanted to look back into.

WindwardAway - Not entirely sure what to make of WWA's night 0 content looking back, there are a few things here and there, a lot of talking about themselves, trying to wrap my head around what I think of this night 0 post #444night0. I kinda wish Caitlin was here just so i could make heads or tails of WWA's comment on Caitlin back there. The mentality of WWA going in this cycle of declaring they should not be townread and only scum townreads them, but at the same time, people should be townreading WindwardAway, is confusing and kind of exhausting lol.

Question for @WindwardAway #53,very early today you have said yourself that Alison had an agenda to push you, and this was really the only real outed read you had on Alison, so then why'd you say there were better places to push, I know you have had your whole nutella and Sabi push thing, but what made alison less pushable in your eyes then the other people you were focusing on?

WWA feels very glued to the falcon/nutella thing. I have caught wolves in this fashion where they get stuck on a topic and milk it forever and ever. Yes I know they are busy so I will give them space, but yeah. I find #572 a kind of scummy post. I feel like WWA talked in circles on Rondo which is kinda weird.

I am curious about WWA's later read on me since they have claimed my posts have been "OK so far" without having deep dived into me.

I forgot to reply to the first question lol

Alison was less pushable than Nutella because I had already determined on N0 that Nutella felt scummier due to her response to me about falcon. Meaning I ranked Nutella as scummier than falcon, but also scummier than Alison. Alison was actually the one I thought was least scummy of the three because that take was based on how I perceived her scumread on me as coming from bad faith. She claimed that I was scum trying to pocket Sabi because I told people to get off Sabi's back, because telling someone they shouldn't sign up if they don't enjoy the game doesn't motivate them more to play. The point was not to make Sabi feel welcome; it was that rubbing dirt in people's faces just because they said they don't want to be here doesn't actually help anyone. It's pointless and it's rude imo. You can argue that playing a game when you don't want to be here is rude, too, sure. But I saw no need for multiple people to keep repeating that Sabi shouldn't play.

So Alison latching onto that by saying it's a pocketing attempt is either incredibly out of tune with what my intentions were, or it's scum looking for an excuse to vote me. I chose to believe the latter and Alison just continued focusing on me as her primary scumread. So I just figured I'm correct that she's scum trying to push me for dumb reasons. Her response to me about the nutella/falcon thing was more reasonable, so I backed off for a bit and gave it more thought. But I still do think she has scum equity, and now that I've looked at a bit more of Nutella's posts I'm less inclined to think she's scum over Alison.

Point is, reads change. They aren't at a hard ranking in my head because it's D1 and we have no flips. But those were my thoughts.

oh okay, i missed the whole falcon/sabi thing then, because i thought it was merely just the "im town" thing you were commenting on

[Lime Coke]

I'm on board with Alison or Brad btw.

Both are showing attitudes I've seen from wolf them lately. Have scummed with both recently ish.

You are broken, just like Carson Soucy.

Lmao nice research

Thank you.

[Master Radishes]

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Radishes
Rondo

^wolves

Lol

You only ever wolf read me when you're a wolf.

I do not recall

Only recall wolf reading you correctly in our first game

And then a bunch of iconic town games together

Kind of think you’re wolf

This reply bad

You want to call me wolf here?

When I clicked to reply to this my dog pooped.

Anyway yeah there was a game where you tried to push me when you were wolfing.

The first game was yeara ago and no longer counts.

[Cape90]

mmm wind towny again lol

?

mindmeld on cape

but WWA said that i was towny after you called wind town, unless you were talking about a different mindmeld