Game of Champions- Merged Thread [GAME OVER- SERIAL KILLER WINS]

[Epignosis]

I will wait for the hosts to refresh the map. I'm zonked.

[leetic]

Sloonei:

- Has a few fluffy/hedgy interactions with falcon early in D1
- Votes falcon briefly D1, allegedly to give pyxxy breathing room.
- D2 says that falcon is a wolf, but not paired with pyxxy.
- Last post is a vote on pyxxy, which would turn out to be a vanity wagon (though sig may have been on falcon at the time, I'm not sure)

[nutella]

There's a small point about Cape I haven't brought up in this thread yet because it was slightly silly but now I'm tempted to believe it again. "Scumslips" are usually a trap but hear me out.

On D1 of the east thread, Guillo had thought he'd caught a slip (classic guillo) when Cape referred to the West thread. Guillo had not realized that the West facility being called that was public info from the host post about secret santa. However, Cape did not point to the host post and go "it says right there it's the West facility" but instead he went "I just assumed it would make sense for it to be east and west" -- which, in fairness, completely makes sense of course, but he had casually referred to it like he knew for sure. The fact that he gave this explanation instead of citing that it was already public knowledge made me wonder if he had been exposed to the name by other means, ie scum chat.

It feels silly again as I'm typing it out but I think he fits pretty well as a falcon teammate anyway as epi laid out

this argument again. nutella the more you live, the more I am starting to think you might just be wolf here

Lol I would probably not even think to make this argument as wolf. Nor many of the other stupid things I've said. I didn't think it was going to be multiball either and my uninformed perspective is pretty clear in this game

[nutella]

Wolfy post though so thanks for that lmao.

[nutella]

Wolfy post though so thanks for that lmao.

[nutella]

Double wolfy

[Epignosis]

I haven't gotten to nutella yet but my instinct says "Not mafia."

[nutella]

Anyway, I have finally started watching Severance thanks to @JaggedJimmyJay so I'mma go back to that and then sleep

Currently my thought is DarlingMonroe fits as last landlord and Cape/maayybe Lemon/prob one of TSP or Delta for the Rose Clan or whatever.

[nutella]

You may say given multiball I should perhaps reconsider my strong townreads at some point but nahhh a lot of my townreads are bolstered by those uninformed-perspective-related microreads that I think hold enough for now.

[leetic]

LC:

- Has a few fluffy/slightly pushy interactions with falcon early D1
- Goes after Seanzie for the latter's case on falcon
- Debunks the "slip" falcon "caught"
- Continues to go after Seanzie for their falcon case
- Later says falcon could be a wolf after looking at their ISO
- Has falcon second-to-last after Delta on their D2 reads list
- Justified their last-minute pyxxy vote by saying they didn't want to be on a wagon with falcon and were considering switching to falcon but didn't because Abby had them as town

[leetic]

Anyway, I have finally started watching Severance thanks to @JaggedJimmyJay so I'mma go back to that and then sleep

Currently my thought is DarlingMonroe fits as last landlord and Cape/maayybe Lemon/prob one of TSP or Delta for the Rose Clan or whatever.

Given Abby's hard bus on pyxxy, I doubt they would vote a partner with such weakness as they voted DM.

[nutella]

@Long Con seeing your name and "fluffy" in the same post elicits a Pavlovian chuckle for me after all these years

[nutella]

Anyway, I have finally started watching Severance thanks to @JaggedJimmyJay so I'mma go back to that and then sleep

Currently my thought is DarlingMonroe fits as last landlord and Cape/maayybe Lemon/prob one of TSP or Delta for the Rose Clan or whatever.

Given Abby's hard bus on pyxxy, I doubt they would vote a partner with such weakness as they voted DM.

Hm yeah I saw that point you made, perhaps

[leetic]

Epi:

- Said falcon was town when prodded by Sloonei
- Pointed out that falcon said nothing about pyxxy, then said they would rather vote Delta and falcon

Wow, that's little for the third-highest poster in the thread (after me and Abby). I'm starting to see where some of this suspicion comes from.

[Cape90]

Cape

I realize I am doing the same thing I'm accusing you of in my emotional response and I shouldnot do that

I do think the pelt is mine though

I think I'm wrong on someone in my town core who Caitlin was right about otherwise I think I'd be dead N1 over her

It could be falcon... but I don't want to think it is

So Princess Abigail is town yeah?

While I'm mainly looking for Falcon interactions, this caught my eye.

I can kind of see the push on falcon, can someone summarize, if they haven't, what falc did in the other thread?

This is horrifically vague.

"I can kind of see the push on falcon."

I have 6 votes?





That's a lot, eh?

That's what I'm saying!

There shouldn't be 6 votes on me right now






I'm literally towning my ass off, it's just misunderstood

Eh. There was no townspewing from you from the N0 thread.

It's odd that in your posts here so far, you've brought nothing from the other thread nor do I see an explicit interest in the one you weren't in.

You're normally good about showing your within your townrange when you are town, where is that m8?

all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town

I'm good at reading Falcon, but I don't think this is townspewed Falc.

Who from y'alls thread who claimed to tr falcon that died?

I think both of these pushes on falcon kinda look terrible, esp since wilgy and falcon haven't seen most of one another's messages since they were in different threads most of the game all together

I don't understand why you can't have an opinion on someone from a different camp. This is a defense of Falcon by way of suspecting (and voting) Wilgy.

I have 6 votes?





That's a lot, eh?

That's what I'm saying!

There shouldn't be 6 votes on me right now






I'm literally towning my ass off, it's just misunderstood

Eh. There was no townspewing from you from the N0 thread.

It's odd that in your posts here so far, you've brought nothing from the other thread nor do I see an explicit interest in the one you weren't in.

You're normally good about showing your within your townrange when you are town, where is that m8?

I can't force you to see things from my point of view, I feel I'm obv town









I'm the towniest town who's ever towned!








Maybe I'm having a bad game? But!








Has anyone ever considered that maybe I'm having a great game?

If you are having a great game, why are you getting pushed? are most people pushing for you in bad faith?

As far as I can tell, this is the only direct interaction Cape had with Falcon. It's not a bad question.

I do not see that Falcon ever followed up on it though.

Instead, falcon is behaving in a reactive manner that I think gives an indication that for him isn't mafia-oriented.

What makes you think that?

He's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.

I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.

Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.

All this you/falcon talk is kinda screaming w/w to me

I want to cross-reference this post with the earlier posts. There is a shaky defense of falcon in those.

Here is the turn, where Cape explicitly calls Falcon mafia and does so with enough gumption to call me his teammate.

So I even said:

Instead, falcon is behaving in a reactive manner that I think gives an indication that for him isn't mafia-oriented.

What makes you think that?

He's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.

I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.

Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.

All this you/falcon talk is kinda screaming w/w to me

Do you know falcon is mafia?

By that point, falcon had one foot out the door, and I see no evidence that Cape was really trying to figure falcon out. Cape went from defending Falcon to calling him mafia without ever even voting there.

I would call Cape a highly compatible teammate with Falcon. Could even be a Landlord.

1. I thought PA was town because of the insinuation of getting night 1ed. Obviously a dumb reason in retrospect. Also Abi was not on the same team as falcon, i don't know how many hecking times i have to repeat that LMAO.

2. What was there even to say about falcon, he talked about how he was obvious town while mostly posting a lot of fluff. Felt like he was stumbling drunk in the thread with some of what I would consider "half-content".

3. I do still have a suspicion on Wilgy, I just didn't know how you could have possibly gathered anything out of falcon's logs and again, the whole push was indirect.

4. Yeah, I was considering pushing falcon because I wanted that over lemonfairy for sure.

5. This was also crossing my mind in terms of me later wanting to vote falcon, but i wasnt there for EOD. It also seems like you are aware of your connection to falcon from like a couple pages or so ago. I was more confident on DrWilgy who at the time was hard pushing for falcon.

[Cape90]

Alright, time to look at interactions with falcon and Abby. I'll start with people from the other thread, as I only have to look at this thread from here.

[VOTE: Lemon Fairy ] aubergine

Arr!!

This was Davos's only post in the thread, voting a CW to falcon. This was apparently Abby's second choice after the falcon wagon, so maybe this implies a little coordination? Still, it's weak

i feel like Davos should be sorted eventually, whatever Davos is

[leetic]

I'll probably finish the D3 falcon interactions of people on my side tomorrow. I feel we should prioritize the people on the other side anyway.

[Master Radishes]

It feels right having GoC be Multiball again.

[Cape90]

[VOTE: DarlingMonroe] aubergine

Yeah town I think DM is just wolf here. She leverage pushed Epi when Sloonei was pushing for that then dipped

[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

He’s falcon’s teammate.

Bold. Back it up!

Epi historically dislikes and avoid bussing. Epi had a wonky argument that he used to defend falcon throughout the fay yesterday.

also this

going to falcon bc i dont feel safe with so many votes on me

im going to work so i wont be online for eod

love yall

[VOTE: vote:falcon [VOTE: really hope its mafia] aubergine] aubergine

[VOTE: [VOTE:

reads like DM was more focused on defending herself then actually solving in the wagons] aubergine] aubergine

[VOTE: [VOTE: [VOTE: DarlingMonroe] aubergine

Maybe this instead actually. I can see possibility of association to Brad in the East thread.

I'm not sure if I'll make it back before EoD or not. If I do I'd happily join some flashwagon shenanigans if any are on offer.] aubergine] aubergine

[VOTE: [VOTE:

what association between me and brad? what are you talking about?

so why vote me over falcon or anyone else?

i really dont know how to interact with you in this game] aubergine] aubergine

[VOTE: [VOTE:

(PS DarlingMonroe, the connection is that you were on Brad's town read list, remember? the thing you also used to try to push other people like DrWilgy?)] aubergine] aubergine

[VOTE: [VOTE: @Epignosis still cant explain your vote on me? tell how this is a game decision? id rather you just say that you dont like me and thats it, instead of fabricating lies and theories about how i must be wolf] aubergine] aubergine

[VOTE: [VOTE: like all these votes on me based off players ive had like 0 interaction dont seem like town behavior at all] aubergine] aubergine

[VOTE: [VOTE:

But anyways, my theory is backed up by these posts] aubergine] aubergine

[VOTE: [VOTE: I am not exactly sure why falcon has the votes he does, but I wanna keep playing and helping town/civilians] aubergine] aubergine

[VOTE: [VOTE:

Again, not solving falcon] aubergine] aubergine

[Master Radishes]

Cape likes aubergines huh

[Cape90]

well that formatting somehow got screwed up

[Master Radishes]

[VOTE: Dig A1] aubergine
@Scotty @S~V~S

[leetic]

[VOTE: DarlingMonroe] aubergine

Yeah town I think DM is just wolf here. She leverage pushed Epi when Sloonei was pushing for that then dipped

[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

He’s falcon’s teammate.

Bold. Back it up!

Epi historically dislikes and avoid bussing. Epi had a wonky argument that he used to defend falcon throughout the fay yesterday.

also this

going to falcon bc i dont feel safe with so many votes on me

im going to work so i wont be online for eod

love yall

[VOTE: vote:falcon ] aubergine really hope its mafia

reads like DM was more focused on defending herself then actually solving in the wagons

[VOTE: DarlingMonroe] aubergine

Maybe this instead actually. I can see possibility of association to Brad in the East thread.

I'm not sure if I'll make it back before EoD or not. If I do I'd happily join some flashwagon shenanigans if any are on offer.

what association between me and brad? what are you talking about?

so why vote me over falcon or anyone else?

i really dont know how to interact with you in this game

(PS DarlingMonroe, the connection is that you were on Brad's town read list, remember? the thing you also used to try to push other people like DrWilgy?)

@Epignosis still cant explain your vote on me? tell how this is a game decision? id rather you just say that you dont like me and thats it, instead of fabricating lies and theories about how i must be wolf

like all these votes on me based off players ive had like 0 interaction dont seem like town behavior at all

But anyways, my theory is backed up by these posts

I am not exactly sure why falcon has the votes he does, but I wanna keep playing and helping town/civilians

Again, not solving falcon

Fixed the formatting for you

[Cape90]

Cape likes aubergines huh

sorry i might come off harsh when i am being pushed LOL, sometimes i be like that, apologies for that if i made users feel bad

[Cape90]

[VOTE: DarlingMonroe] aubergine

Yeah town I think DM is just wolf here. She leverage pushed Epi when Sloonei was pushing for that then dipped

[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

He’s falcon’s teammate.

Bold. Back it up!

Epi historically dislikes and avoid bussing. Epi had a wonky argument that he used to defend falcon throughout the fay yesterday.

also this

going to falcon bc i dont feel safe with so many votes on me

im going to work so i wont be online for eod

love yall

[VOTE: vote:falcon ] aubergine really hope its mafia

reads like DM was more focused on defending herself then actually solving in the wagons

[VOTE: DarlingMonroe] aubergine

Maybe this instead actually. I can see possibility of association to Brad in the East thread.

I'm not sure if I'll make it back before EoD or not. If I do I'd happily join some flashwagon shenanigans if any are on offer.

what association between me and brad? what are you talking about?

so why vote me over falcon or anyone else?

i really dont know how to interact with you in this game

(PS DarlingMonroe, the connection is that you were on Brad's town read list, remember? the thing you also used to try to push other people like DrWilgy?)

@Epignosis still cant explain your vote on me? tell how this is a game decision? id rather you just say that you dont like me and thats it, instead of fabricating lies and theories about how i must be wolf

like all these votes on me based off players ive had like 0 interaction dont seem like town behavior at all

But anyways, my theory is backed up by these posts

I am not exactly sure why falcon has the votes he does, but I wanna keep playing and helping town/civilians

Again, not solving falcon

Fixed the formatting for you

thanks, i figured it was that last post DM made yesterday

[leetic]

Cape likes aubergines huh

sorry i might come off harsh when i am being pushed LOL, sometimes i be like that, apologies for that if i made users feel bad

This feels like an oddly suck-upy response to someone who was likely just poking fun at the formatting

[Cape90]

There's a small point about Cape I haven't brought up in this thread yet because it was slightly silly but now I'm tempted to believe it again. "Scumslips" are usually a trap but hear me out.

On D1 of the east thread, Guillo had thought he'd caught a slip (classic guillo) when Cape referred to the West thread. Guillo had not realized that the West facility being called that was public info from the host post about secret santa. However, Cape did not point to the host post and go "it says right there it's the West facility" but instead he went "I just assumed it would make sense for it to be east and west" -- which, in fairness, completely makes sense of course, but he had casually referred to it like he knew for sure. The fact that he gave this explanation instead of citing that it was already public knowledge made me wonder if he had been exposed to the name by other means, ie scum chat.

It feels silly again as I'm typing it out but I think he fits pretty well as a falcon teammate anyway as epi laid out

this argument again. nutella the more you live, the more I am starting to think you might just be wolf here

Lol I would probably not even think to make this argument as wolf. Nor many of the other stupid things I've said. I didn't think it was going to be multiball either and my uninformed perspective is pretty clear in this game

Multiball was mentioned many times in night 0 being common in the Syndicate, i think Guillo brought it up or someone talking to Guillo

what made you think this game wasn't multiball?

[Cape90]

Cape likes aubergines huh

sorry i might come off harsh when i am being pushed LOL, sometimes i be like that, apologies for that if i made users feel bad

This feels like an oddly suck-upy response to someone who was likely just poking fun at the formatting

i thought he was calling me a dick lol

[Cape90]

Legacy Abi is a wolf

this is likely not teamed with Abigail

[Master Radishes]

Cape you're a dick

[Master Radishes]

(that's a joke you seem like a nice person)

[Cape90]

meh ultimately
i trust monroe's voters more
than falcon's voters

not sure either would
flip wolf at this point but just
might go back in case

i kind of think that
delta wagon not lasting
is sign that it should

I saw both of these over night and was very concerned which is why I have been critical of nutella today

[leetic]

Legacy Abi is a wolf

this is likely not teamed with Abigail

We kind of knew that anyway

[Cape90]

I mean Delta has been kind of a nothingburger today

[Cape90]

of our thread, I feel most confident in LC/Abbi/Sloonei/Ricochet town, Epi/Leetic/TSP to a slightly lesser extent. Leaves question marks around Falcon/Sig. if there's town in either would go back and look at those I'm not as confident.

From the other side of the thread, I think WWA/DrWilgy/MR/Nutella have all seemed fine to me, nothing sure due to being first day back w both threads but that's my gut read for the opposing thread. Off of pure gut read I dont really think DM's reactions today feel wolfy, more in line with what I've skimmed from town games, but without seeing other thread there's only so much I can say on that. The rest have kinda just been white noise, Cape slight town ping but nothing huge.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

I'm more comfortable voting within my facility today, as I mentioned earlier, so \o/
glgl o/

this is pretty surface too

[Cape90]

I probably would push Delta over nutella just looking at Delta more, they lack substance this game and they lack it extremely.

[Cape90]

I find it very interesting how both the sock puppet accounts are posting wildly different from each other

It's like Scrappy Doo is actually putting in effort and looking slightly towny

And then there is Davos who just keeps going "Arr!!" LMAO

[Cape90]

Legacy Abi is a wolf

this is likely not teamed with Abigail

We kind of knew that anyway

well, it's news to me

though i do recall TSP saying they would vote to save falcon

[leetic]

of our thread, I feel most confident in LC/Abbi/Sloonei/Ricochet town, Epi/Leetic/TSP to a slightly lesser extent. Leaves question marks around Falcon/Sig. if there's town in either would go back and look at those I'm not as confident.

From the other side of the thread, I think WWA/DrWilgy/MR/Nutella have all seemed fine to me, nothing sure due to being first day back w both threads but that's my gut read for the opposing thread. Off of pure gut read I dont really think DM's reactions today feel wolfy, more in line with what I've skimmed from town games, but without seeing other thread there's only so much I can say on that. The rest have kinda just been white noise, Cape slight town ping but nothing huge.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

I'm more comfortable voting within my facility today, as I mentioned earlier, so \o/
glgl o/

this is pretty surface too

I guess my big problem with that post is that it is an example of a PoE so narrow that you can't fit enough wolves in it (on my side anyway). @Delta I'd like to see how the flips have changed your PoE.

[leetic]

Legacy Abi is a wolf

this is likely not teamed with Abigail

We kind of knew that anyway

well, it's news to me

though i do recall TSP saying they would vote to save falcon

Two landlords have already flipped on my side, it's likely the other two (one of which has flipped) are on the other side

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: darlingmonroe] aubergine

[Sloonei]

I'm not actually interested in pushing Epi today. But I want the theory that he is falcon's teammate to remain on the record.

[Cape90]

Legacy Abi is a wolf

this is likely not teamed with Abigail

We kind of knew that anyway

well, it's news to me

though i do recall TSP saying they would vote to save falcon

Two landlords have already flipped on my side, it's likely the other two (one of which has flipped) are on the other side

thats true, 2 landlords and even 1 rose empire mafia when we only have limecoke

which from that POV, I can see why people are voting me right now, I think DM/Master Radishes/nutella probably contain a mafia from my side if you were to ask me. nutella insisting to me that they are obviously from an uninformed perspective was pingy to me, but they are playing pretty different from when we wolved together, though I question if it's because this time I am town and w!nutella doesn't HAVE to hedge on me this game like they were when we were both wolves

[leetic]

[VOTE: darlingmonroe] aubergine

Do you think they're falcon's teammate or Abby's?

[Cape90]

Delta is town this wagon is bad

[Master Radishes]

meh ultimately
i trust monroe's voters more
than falcon's voters

not sure either would
flip wolf at this point but just
might go back in case

i kind of think that
delta wagon not lasting
is sign that it should

I saw both of these over night and was very concerned which is why I have been critical of nutella today

Eh, fwiw I had the exact same vibe as Nutella here. I liked the DM wagon better too and wished the delta wagon lasted longer or has more or an impact or something.

[Cape90]

Legacy Abi is a wolf

this is likely not teamed with Abigail

We kind of knew that anyway

well, it's news to me

though i do recall TSP saying they would vote to save falcon

Two landlords have already flipped on my side, it's likely the other two (one of which has flipped) are on the other side

thats true, 2 landlords and even 1 rose empire mafia when we only have limecoke

which from that POV, I can see why people are voting me right now, I think DM/Master Radishes/nutella probably contain a mafia from my side if you were to ask me. nutella insisting to me that they are obviously from an uninformed perspective was pingy to me, but they are playing pretty different from when we wolved together, though I question if it's because this time I am town and w!nutella doesn't HAVE to hedge on me this game like they were when we were both wolves

i realized i forgot to put wilgy on this list too and way more likely then MR/nutella
Bleh

[Master Radishes]

I'm not actually interested in pushing Epi today. But I want the theory that he is falcon's teammate to remain on the record.

It's on the record for me.

I think knowing it's multiball I need to weaken all my townlens and keep an open mind on them.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: darlingmonroe] aubergine

Do you think they're falcon's teammate or Abby's?

I haven't looked into it. If I have to guess, I'd say they're a landlord.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: darlingmonroe] aubergine

Do you think they're falcon's teammate or Abby's?

I haven't looked into it. If I have to guess, I'd say they're a landlord.

I still believe in Epi's belief that Monroe is mafia.

If Epi is mafia, he is teamed with falcon.

If Epi is then also correct about Monroe, they are not on the same team.