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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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DarlingMonroe wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:54 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:50 pm dms contributions aren't amazing but I do not think capes are on the order of "obviously much much townier" and there are various points against him that have been discussed
to be fair, i wouldn't categorize lemon's or radishes' contributions as amazing either. I feel so confident they are mafia with falcon.


and I would say Nanook with Lime.
I think radishes is just towny tbh but lemon sure. Cape looks worse to me atm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:56 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:48 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:41 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:14 pm [VOTE: MR] aubergine

Cape is also fine.

I'm still in opposition to a DM yeet.
why
I think Cape is 200% townier than DM
really though? justify this assertion
just read their ISOs

Cape has reads, puts nuance and thoughts into their reads, and engages with others

I don't think I've seen anything like that from Monroe
she has dropped reads but hasn't explained why beyond votes
I feel cape has been much less nuanced-contentful than I associate with his town play.
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:04 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:50 pm dms contributions aren't amazing but I do not think capes are on the order of "obviously much much townier" and there are various points against him that have been discussed
like, the only thing that comes to mind would be the w/w read on Epi and falcon
which I don't think is a damning as people are making it out to be
It really isn't just that for me. Epi had several points. And I had the early vibe read that bolsters my ego so confbias tbh
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Plus he sloppily omgused me which felt like how he'd react as wolf rather than recognizing my town thought process
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:36 pm @ the people who have been doing the Good Work sifting through ISOs today:

Which players are definitely not Landlords?
Which players are definitely not Arbiters of the Rose Empire?
I'm definitely not a Landlord.
I'm definitely not an Arbiter of the Rose Empire.
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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Epignosis wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:36 pm @ the people who have been doing the Good Work sifting through ISOs today:

Which players are definitely not Landlords?
Which players are definitely not Arbiters of the Rose Empire?
I'm definitely not a Landlord.
I'm definitely not an Arbiter of the Rose Empire.
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]

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leetic wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:58 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:37 pm
leetic wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:42 pm There's far too many players who've been slanking for D3








Off the tip of my head, I haven't seen anything from Sabi, Davos, and Sig feels like he's totally dipped after piggy backing off leetic's read
Another salad, in case it matters
do you think he could've rule-of-three'd a partner somewhere, or is he too good for that/named too many players for it to matter?
Considering one flipped town, one is a sock account I know barely anything about, and I don't really think sig is falcon's partner, I doubt that specific example is too meaningful
oh i didn't mean specifically that list lol
but I concluded anyway that falcon was kinda just throwing around names and probably was in antispew since he knew he had pressure on him
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:56 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:48 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:41 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:14 pm [VOTE: MR] aubergine

Cape is also fine.

I'm still in opposition to a DM yeet.
why
I think Cape is 200% townier than DM
really though? justify this assertion
just read their ISOs

Cape has reads, puts nuance and thoughts into their reads, and engages with others

I don't think I've seen anything like that from Monroe
she has dropped reads but hasn't explained why beyond votes
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:27 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:53 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:48 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:44 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:39 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:36 pm Lemon I think has been lurking quite a lot.
I've not lurked, I've been absent

because I was busy
Fair
Have any of your reads changed since the falcon flip?
haven't sorted them yet but I like Epi's case posts

ig leetic's were not bad either
Ok, thanks for sharing.
Do you have any thoughts as to whether someone on falcon's team bussed him or if his partners stayed off of his wagon?
with so many people on him, yeah, they probably bussed

I mean, if he was going to go over anyway, why not get the cred?
even though there were two other wagons as options (DMs and yours), and at that point none of falcon's team had flipped yet?
or do you mean more of a late bus when it seemed like he was almost definitely going over?
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:31 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:55 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:52 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:45 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:40 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:36 pm the fact that she went back to low engagement
you mean "no engagement" (this is assuming you haven't yet read my most recent posts)
this kind of feels like you're making stuff up
I said "low" because I couldn't remember any and I skipped a chunk of posts in my catchup. The last time I accused someone of "no engagement" they had actually posted but I didn't see their posts, so I'm not doing that dumb thing again.

Anyway, I thought you townread me? What's with the hostility?
oh
that's fair ig

I thought you were making up some BS reason to scumread me out of nowhere
which now I know was my mistake

carry on
??
you're the one who pointed out that I had actually sussed you in the East Facility thread before. it wouldn't be a reason I pulled out of nowhere as an excuse to scumread you, for sure.
I don't think I said anything of the sort
iirc the reason you sussed me in the first place was because I had you consistently at the bottom of each of my read lists (which I explained were unordered) and also due to my low activity, which was fair enough

but saying I had low activity when I in fact was not actually in the thread makes me think you made up your suspicion on me because it reads to me like you are acting as though you've read my posts when you haven't
and it's an easy breezy way to start scumreading someone artificially
hence my reaction
all right
it would be stupid for me to lie intentionally about your activity to push you if it's easy enough for anyone to look for receipts in the thread, though
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:07 pm how are y'all not seeing this?
am I the crazy one?
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:43 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:26 pm I'm liking how DM has really got going on the solving today, fwiw.
what?
where? pls direct me to it
they finally gave some explanations to their reads
plus that vote analysis post you said a couple posts above this quote that you thought was a nothingburger
it felt like DM was actually going somewhere with that
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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DarlingMonroe wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:10 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:06 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:54 pm I feel like Cape is playing pretty ambiguously. Could be town or wolf. Not willing to go there when there's Lemon & Master.
like, all you're doing is continuously repeating that me and Radishes are wolves
at least find some wolfy quotes from us or something
Where do I begin? I cant quote anything from the east, but pretty much everything there has shades of wolf all over. Like one of your firsts posts wondering if mafia and town were evenly separated between facilities bc one side would have more town members. That's something a wolf would wonder about only.
wait, why would only a wolf wonder about that?
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:22 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:12 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:07 pm how are y'all not seeing this?
am I the crazy one?
You have been wolf from the start, and were probably aware there had to be another mafia from get-go. Then when Lime flipped other mafia, and second Day the wagons were on Ali + Sabi (both town), I bet you were so excited and just voted Dyslexicon for LOL. Happy knowing that either Lime's other partner would be eliminated or another town.
yes, I voted Dyslexicon, but I had Dyslexicon, you, and Alison in my scumreads
you didn't have that many posts or reads so I thought it'd be boring to go after you
Alison already had a lot of votes so I didn't feel the need to jump onto her
so I voted Dyslexicon

the rest of your post is just unsubstantiated narrative you're making up
how about today, how do you feel about Dizzy now?
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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nutella wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:31 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:54 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:50 pm dms contributions aren't amazing but I do not think capes are on the order of "obviously much much townier" and there are various points against him that have been discussed
to be fair, i wouldn't categorize lemon's or radishes' contributions as amazing either. I feel so confident they are mafia with falcon.


and I would say Nanook with Lime.
I think radishes is just towny tbh but lemon sure. Cape looks worse to me atm
i think lemon continues to be a bit wolfy with some of her responses
and i think cape has dropped a bit from my townleans
but I don't think they're partnered?
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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Nanook

Because I suspected it would be, Nanook's interactions with Falcon is a nothingburger as well.

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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:57 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:31 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:54 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:50 pm dms contributions aren't amazing but I do not think capes are on the order of "obviously much much townier" and there are various points against him that have been discussed
to be fair, i wouldn't categorize lemon's or radishes' contributions as amazing either. I feel so confident they are mafia with falcon.


and I would say Nanook with Lime.
I think radishes is just towny tbh but lemon sure. Cape looks worse to me atm
i think lemon continues to be a bit wolfy with some of her responses
and i think cape has dropped a bit from my townleans
but I don't think they're partnered?
i mean i actually agree with lemon that cape has had some nuanced reads, but since we know it's multiball, i think cape as a wolf could still make solvey posts like that while also pushing an agenda, so that's why he's not really clear for me anymore.
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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Epignosis wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:52 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:07 pm how are y'all not seeing this?
am I the crazy one?
I'm good with Cape or DarlingMonroe dying today.
I'd rather Cape than DM
but why not Lemon?
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:57 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:31 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:54 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:50 pm dms contributions aren't amazing but I do not think capes are on the order of "obviously much much townier" and there are various points against him that have been discussed
to be fair, i wouldn't categorize lemon's or radishes' contributions as amazing either. I feel so confident they are mafia with falcon.


and I would say Nanook with Lime.
I think radishes is just towny tbh but lemon sure. Cape looks worse to me atm
i think lemon continues to be a bit wolfy with some of her responses
and i think cape has dropped a bit from my townleans
but I don't think they're partnered?
It would be a bit on the nose at this point lol
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]

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Cape90 wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:51 am
Epignosis wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:06 pm Cape
Cape90 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:20 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:11 am I realize I am doing the same thing I'm accusing you of in my emotional response and I shouldnot do that

I do think the pelt is mine though

I think I'm wrong on someone in my town core who Caitlin was right about otherwise I think I'd be dead N1 over her

It could be falcon... but I don't want to think it is
So Princess Abigail is town yeah?
While I'm mainly looking for Falcon interactions, this caught my eye.
Cape90 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:46 pm I can kind of see the push on falcon, can someone summarize, if they haven't, what falc did in the other thread?
This is horrifically vague.

"I can kind of see the push on falcon."
Cape90 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:11 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:01 pm
Long Con wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:56 pm I have 6 votes?





That's a lot, eh?
That's what I'm saying!

There shouldn't be 6 votes on me right now






I'm literally towning my ass off, it's just misunderstood
Eh. There was no townspewing from you from the N0 thread.

It's odd that in your posts here so far, you've brought nothing from the other thread nor do I see an explicit interest in the one you weren't in.

You're normally good about showing your within your townrange when you are town, where is that m8?
DrWilgy wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:36 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town
I'm good at reading Falcon, but I don't think this is townspewed Falc.

Who from y'alls thread who claimed to tr falcon that died?
I think both of these pushes on falcon kinda look terrible, esp since wilgy and falcon haven't seen most of one another's messages since they were in different threads most of the game all together
I don't understand why you can't have an opinion on someone from a different camp. This is a defense of Falcon by way of suspecting (and voting) Wilgy.
Cape90 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:30 am
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falcon45ca wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:01 pm
Long Con wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:58 pm

That's what I'm saying!

There shouldn't be 6 votes on me right now






I'm literally towning my ass off, it's just misunderstood
Eh. There was no townspewing from you from the N0 thread.

It's odd that in your posts here so far, you've brought nothing from the other thread nor do I see an explicit interest in the one you weren't in.

You're normally good about showing your within your townrange when you are town, where is that m8?

I can't force you to see things from my point of view, I feel I'm obv town









I'm the towniest town who's ever towned!








Maybe I'm having a bad game? But!








Has anyone ever considered that maybe I'm having a great game?
If you are having a great game, why are you getting pushed? are most people pushing for you in bad faith?
As far as I can tell, this is the only direct interaction Cape had with Falcon. It's not a bad question.

I do not see that Falcon ever followed up on it though.
Cape90 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:32 am
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Long Con wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:08 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:33 pmInstead, falcon is behaving in a reactive manner that I think gives an indication that for him isn't mafia-oriented.
What makes you think that?
He's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.

I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.

Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.
All this you/falcon talk is kinda screaming w/w to me
I want to cross-reference this post with the earlier posts. There is a shaky defense of falcon in those.

Here is the turn, where Cape explicitly calls Falcon mafia and does so with enough gumption to call me his teammate.

So I even said:
Epignosis wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:28 pm
Cape90 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:32 am
Epignosis wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:14 pm
Long Con wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:08 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:33 pmInstead, falcon is behaving in a reactive manner that I think gives an indication that for him isn't mafia-oriented.
What makes you think that?
He's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.

I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.

Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.
All this you/falcon talk is kinda screaming w/w to me
Do you know falcon is mafia?
By that point, falcon had one foot out the door, and I see no evidence that Cape was really trying to figure falcon out. Cape went from defending Falcon to calling him mafia without ever even voting there.

I would call Cape a highly compatible teammate with Falcon. Could even be a Landlord.
1. I thought PA was town because of the insinuation of getting night 1ed. Obviously a dumb reason in retrospect. Also Abi was not on the same team as falcon, i don't know how many hecking times i have to repeat that LMAO.

2. What was there even to say about falcon, he talked about how he was obvious town while mostly posting a lot of fluff. Felt like he was stumbling drunk in the thread with some of what I would consider "half-content".

3. I do still have a suspicion on Wilgy, I just didn't know how you could have possibly gathered anything out of falcon's logs and again, the whole push was indirect.

4. Yeah, I was considering pushing falcon because I wanted that over lemonfairy for sure.

5. This was also crossing my mind in terms of me later wanting to vote falcon, but i wasnt there for EOD. It also seems like you are aware of your connection to falcon from like a couple pages or so ago. I was more confident on DrWilgy who at the time was hard pushing for falcon.
I don't see how you went from "I think both of these pushes on falcon kinda look terrible" to "All this you/falcon talk is kinda screaming w/w to me."

"Kinda terrible" is wishy washy.

"Screaming" is you're fucking certain.

At what point did Falcon become mafia for you?
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:59 pm
Epignosis wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:52 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:07 pm how are y'all not seeing this?
am I the crazy one?
I'm good with Cape or DarlingMonroe dying today.
I'd rather Cape than DM
but why not Lemon?
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Who is trying to sabotage the team?

Poll runs till Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:00 pmPlease note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.
You may select 1 option

Cape90
4
18%


Voters: TonyStarkPrime, Epignosis, Long Con, nutella

DarlingMonroe
3
14%


Voters: Sloonei, Lemonfairy, Cape90

Davos
0
No votes


Voters: None

Delta
1
5%


Voters: sig

DrWilgy
0
No votes


Voters: None

Dyslexicon
0
No votes


Voters: None

Epignosis
0
No votes


Voters: None

leetic
1
5%


Voters: Dyslexicon

Lemonfairy
3
14%


Voters: DarlingMonroe, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Davos

Long Con
0
No votes


Voters: None

Master Radishes
1
5%


Voters: DrWilgy

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]

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Sloonei
Sloonei wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:45 pm I missed the entire second half of Day 2, but during the first half of the phase Epi put forward a decent argument for Delta to be teamed with pyxxy (and I guess Lime Coke).

I have a vague and not-well-defined suspicion of Falcon.

Now that we're all in the same room, should we compare notes about whether or not this game might be multiball?
Okay. :)
Sloonei wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:10 am The last game I played with Falcon, he was very aggressive right off the bat. He was picking fights and twisting words in a way that looked like he was trying to generate reads by putting pressure on everyone and everything. Others suspected him for it, but I defended him, saying he looked like a version of town falcon I'd seen before. Eventually his contributions dropped off, and he flipped mafia.

He looked very similar on Day 1 in the other thread. I do not feel like I have seen his reads progress in a meaningful way since then.
Okay. :|
Sloonei wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:13 am
Epignosis wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:10 am This is what I'm talking about. Why not ask falcon questions? Why not mention falcon? Why not summon his winged ass in here?
I feel no urgency to do these things right now.
Okay. :disappoint:
Sloonei wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:19 am
Epignosis wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:17 am "I have a vague and not-well-defined suspicion of Falcon." - Sloonei a few hours ago.

"Go remedy that." - Me

"I feel no urgency to do these things right now." - Sloonei now.
I'm content to continue observing the falcon in its natural habitat for now.

Although I did do my best to define the suspicion a few posts back yonder.
Okay. :charlieblackmon:
Sloonei wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:29 am
Sloonei wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:10 am The last game I played with Falcon, he was very aggressive right off the bat. He was picking fights and twisting words in a way that looked like he was trying to generate reads by putting pressure on everyone and everything. Others suspected him for it, but I defended him, saying he looked like a version of town falcon I'd seen before. Eventually his contributions dropped off, and he flipped mafia.

He looked very similar on Day 1 in the other thread. I do not feel like I have seen his reads progress in a meaningful way since then.

Ya know, I'm only an @ away





Do you feel my reads not progressing the way you feel they should, vs my posting & contributions disappearing, are the same thing?
I have no questions or things for you to address. As I said to Epi last night, I’m content to let you continue doing what you do. My read will progress one way or another on its own.
What the fuck is this?

Let's see where Sloonei's read progressed.
Sloonei wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:29 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:23 pm
Sloonei wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:21 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:18 pm I was just about to do my town core post and...I find myself struggling for town core reads

Falcons dropped out of my old list and only WWA has really joined it
Why did falcon drop off?
Caitlin + doing nothing yesterday after Caitlin his main pusher died but mostly Caitlin
Do you have any strong feelings about his actual posts?

Here's a question about Falcon.

Doesn't go any place.
Sloonei wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:04 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:02 pm My mom still thinks I'm cool
Does your mom have any strong town reads in this game right now? Or you?
I thought Sloonei was going to leave Falcon alone. Here's a goofy question.
Sloonei wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:32 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town
These people could all be overestimating their own abilities.
This is an admonishment against people reading Falcon rather than Falcon himself. Unnamed people at that.
Sloonei wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:34 pm I’ve consistently felt at ease with Epi’s presence in all game threads.
Isn't that nice?
Sloonei wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:02 pm
Cape90 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:32 am
Epignosis wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:14 pm
Long Con wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:08 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:33 pmInstead, falcon is behaving in a reactive manner that I think gives an indication that for him isn't mafia-oriented.
What makes you think that?
He's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.

I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.

Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.
All this you/falcon talk is kinda screaming w/w to me
Epi does not like to bus, so maybe there could be something to this theory. HOWEVER, Epi was also one of the first to push against pyxxy on Day 1, so I do not think he would be a landlord.
Another cart before the horse post.
Sloonei wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:33 pm
leetic wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:30 pm [VOTE: darlingmonroe] aubergine

I again will not be around for EoD, but this is my preferred wagon at the moment. Epi’s confidence, and Monroe’s complete lack of pep and/or verve, with a particularly unconvincing response to pressure, make me want to push this button.

I still am not convinced that Lemonfairy or falcon are town either. But Monroe feels like a better choice right now.
Interesting that this is the second time your vote is entirely because of Epi
I trust his reads.

You're voting DM because you believe in my confidence, but you think I'm mafia with Falcon.

In the words of Boo: "You a damn fool."
Sloonei wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:15 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:06 pm @Epignosis @DarlingMonroe What's your beef?
I think DarlingMonroe is mafia.

That's it.
What can I say? I just found this post to be very convincing.
:|

All right. That's before Falcon died.

Here's after:
Sloonei wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:09 pm
Long Con wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:40 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:18 pm [VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

He’s falcon’s teammate.
Bold. Back it up!
Epi historically dislikes and avoid bussing. Epi had a wonky argument that he used to defend falcon throughout the fay yesterday.
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:26 am [VOTE: darlingmonroe] aubergine
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:27 am I'm not actually interested in pushing Epi today. But I want the theory that he is falcon's teammate to remain on the record.
These are Sloonei's only three posts during this stretch.

I could buy that Sloonei was attempting to perhaps draw mafia out and see who would jump on me, but looking at the timestamps, there wasn't any time for that at all.

Sloonei didn't even engage with me about it.
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Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:36 am
leetic wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:28 am
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:26 am [VOTE: darlingmonroe] aubergine
Do you think they're falcon's teammate or Abby's?
:shrug: I haven't looked into it. If I have to guess, I'd say they're a landlord.
I still believe in Epi's belief that Monroe is mafia.

If Epi is mafia, he is teamed with falcon.

If Epi is then also correct about Monroe, they are not on the same team.
I'm genuine in my belief DarlingMonroe is mafia.
If I'm mafia, I'm teamed with falcon.
If I'm right about Monroe, we're not on the same team.

Folks, this is a post that says nothing.

++++

Sloonei is unfortunately mafia.

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[VOTE: Dig E1] aubergine

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leetic wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:53 pm I will join falcon
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:25 pm we shouldn't kill falcon
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:19 pm I’ll vote to save falcon when it comes to it
TSP was hard defending falcon all day. I think I've already pointed out how questionable the third post is.
Yeah and I stand by it, falcon was town
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:40 am
leetic wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:53 pm I will join falcon
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:25 pm we shouldn't kill falcon
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:19 pm I’ll vote to save falcon when it comes to it
TSP was hard defending falcon all day. I think I've already pointed out how questionable the third post is.
Yeah and I stand by it, falcon was town
You still have not done any real solving
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WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:50 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:27 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:53 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:48 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:44 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:39 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:36 pm Lemon I think has been lurking quite a lot.
I've not lurked, I've been absent

because I was busy
Fair
Have any of your reads changed since the falcon flip?
haven't sorted them yet but I like Epi's case posts

ig leetic's were not bad either
Ok, thanks for sharing.
Do you have any thoughts as to whether someone on falcon's team bussed him or if his partners stayed off of his wagon?
with so many people on him, yeah, they probably bussed

I mean, if he was going to go over anyway, why not get the cred?
even though there were two other wagons as options (DMs and yours), and at that point none of falcon's team had flipped yet?
or do you mean more of a late bus when it seemed like he was almost definitely going over?
I mean, Abby could have easily voted me or Delta but chose to aggressively bus pyxxy. There's no accounting for some people's actions. Still, it would be weird for falcon's team to bus after surviving effectively four day/night cycles with no casualties; it would suggest the team was very disunited D3.
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WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:48 pm
leetic wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:58 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:37 pm
leetic wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:42 pm There's far too many players who've been slanking for D3








Off the tip of my head, I haven't seen anything from Sabi, Davos, and Sig feels like he's totally dipped after piggy backing off leetic's read
Another salad, in case it matters
do you think he could've rule-of-three'd a partner somewhere, or is he too good for that/named too many players for it to matter?
Considering one flipped town, one is a sock account I know barely anything about, and I don't really think sig is falcon's partner, I doubt that specific example is too meaningful
oh i didn't mean specifically that list lol
but I concluded anyway that falcon was kinda just throwing around names and probably was in antispew since he knew he had pressure on him
He mostly seemed focused on his accusers and a couple of inactive people for some reason. Perhaps he was hoping to redirect the attention to some LHF, but that failed. The real question is why he didn't target DM or Lemonfairy more aggressively.
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Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:36 pm @ the people who have been doing the Good Work sifting through ISOs today:

Which players are definitely not Landlords?
Which players are definitely not Arbiters of the Rose Empire?
I doubt anyone still living in my side is a landlord. As for falcon's team, I think sig and LC are clearly unaligned.
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Epignosis wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:36 pm @ the people who have been doing the Good Work sifting through ISOs today:

Which players are definitely not Landlords?
Which players are definitely not Arbiters of the Rose Empire?
I'm definitely not a Landlord.
I'm definitely not an Arbiter of the Rose Empire.
I mean, some of your falcon interactions weren't the greatest. Why did you mostly ignore them D1 and D2? What was the point of your whole D3 defense of them, as you insisted it wasn't to save them?
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I checked just to be sure and falcon has absolutely nothing interesting from N0, but you probably knew that already
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Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:30 am You're voting DM because you believe in my confidence, but you think I'm mafia with Falcon.

In the words of Boo: "You a damn fool."
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:20 am
Epignosis wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:36 pm @ the people who have been doing the Good Work sifting through ISOs today:

Which players are definitely not Landlords?
Which players are definitely not Arbiters of the Rose Empire?
I'm definitely not a Landlord.
I'm definitely not an Arbiter of the Rose Empire.
I mean, some of your falcon interactions weren't the greatest. Why did you mostly ignore them D1 and D2? What was the point of your whole D3 defense of them, as you insisted it wasn't to save them?
My take on falcon was shite.

Not the greatest. Shite.

I ignored falcon because that's what I do.

I do not mind putting my neck on the line to get things moving along. I am a civilian and I don't give a shit about my reputation in the thread. If I'm to be lynched, there's going to be something to show for it. This is the Game of Hamsters, after all.
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Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:23 am
leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:20 am
Epignosis wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:36 pm @ the people who have been doing the Good Work sifting through ISOs today:

Which players are definitely not Landlords?
Which players are definitely not Arbiters of the Rose Empire?
I'm definitely not a Landlord.
I'm definitely not an Arbiter of the Rose Empire.
I mean, some of your falcon interactions weren't the greatest. Why did you mostly ignore them D1 and D2? What was the point of your whole D3 defense of them, as you insisted it wasn't to save them?
My take on falcon was shite.

Not the greatest. Shite.
I know it's garbage but why did you feel the need to post that garbage?
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Lynch Sloonei please.
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leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:24 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:23 am
leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:20 am
Epignosis wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:36 pm @ the people who have been doing the Good Work sifting through ISOs today:

Which players are definitely not Landlords?
Which players are definitely not Arbiters of the Rose Empire?
I'm definitely not a Landlord.
I'm definitely not an Arbiter of the Rose Empire.
I mean, some of your falcon interactions weren't the greatest. Why did you mostly ignore them D1 and D2? What was the point of your whole D3 defense of them, as you insisted it wasn't to save them?
My take on falcon was shite.

Not the greatest. Shite.
I know it's garbage but why did you feel the need to post that garbage?
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Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:36 pm @ the people who have been doing the Good Work sifting through ISOs today:

Which players are definitely not Landlords?
Which players are definitely not Arbiters of the Rose Empire?
The reason I ask this question is because I see a lot of good scum hunting going on. I feel like the next crucial step for this town to take is to start clearing more names and shrinking the POE pool.

I am not in a position to contribute much for the foreseeable future. But I think we're collectively in a good position. Town should be able to win from where we are right now. The more names we can eliminate from our pool of suspects, the lower the chances of making a mistake. Go team, huzzah, let's go, etc.
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I am slamming my fists on the table telling people that Sloonei is not a civilian.
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Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:25 am Lynch Sloonei please.
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Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:26 am
leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:24 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:23 am
leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:20 am
Epignosis wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:36 pm @ the people who have been doing the Good Work sifting through ISOs today:

Which players are definitely not Landlords?
Which players are definitely not Arbiters of the Rose Empire?
I'm definitely not a Landlord.
I'm definitely not an Arbiter of the Rose Empire.
I mean, some of your falcon interactions weren't the greatest. Why did you mostly ignore them D1 and D2? What was the point of your whole D3 defense of them, as you insisted it wasn't to save them?
My take on falcon was shite.

Not the greatest. Shite.
I know it's garbage but why did you feel the need to post that garbage?
Because I'd rather have fun than worry about what people think about me in a game on the Internet.
But that's just dodging the question. If posting defenses of random people you allegedly don't care about is "fun", you do you I guess, but there was clearly a motivation there.
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:29 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:26 am
leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:24 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:23 am
leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:20 am
Epignosis wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:36 pm @ the people who have been doing the Good Work sifting through ISOs today:

Which players are definitely not Landlords?
Which players are definitely not Arbiters of the Rose Empire?
I'm definitely not a Landlord.
I'm definitely not an Arbiter of the Rose Empire.
I mean, some of your falcon interactions weren't the greatest. Why did you mostly ignore them D1 and D2? What was the point of your whole D3 defense of them, as you insisted it wasn't to save them?
My take on falcon was shite.

Not the greatest. Shite.
I know it's garbage but why did you feel the need to post that garbage?
Because I'd rather have fun than worry about what people think about me in a game on the Internet.
But that's just dodging the question. If posting defenses of random people you allegedly don't care about is "fun", you do you I guess, but there was clearly a motivation there.
I'll let you assign a motive to me.
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Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:30 am
leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:29 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:26 am
leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:24 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:23 am
leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:20 am
Epignosis wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:37 pm

I'm definitely not a Landlord.
I'm definitely not an Arbiter of the Rose Empire.
I mean, some of your falcon interactions weren't the greatest. Why did you mostly ignore them D1 and D2? What was the point of your whole D3 defense of them, as you insisted it wasn't to save them?
My take on falcon was shite.

Not the greatest. Shite.
I know it's garbage but why did you feel the need to post that garbage?
Because I'd rather have fun than worry about what people think about me in a game on the Internet.
But that's just dodging the question. If posting defenses of random people you allegedly don't care about is "fun", you do you I guess, but there was clearly a motivation there.
I'll let you assign a motive to me.
Because you're falcon's partner and you tried to save them. You haven't exactly given me reason to doubt this hypothesis.
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my whole thing when I am mafia is distancing from my teammates because I never survive til the end game.

So, like, does it really seem like me to just sort of piss my pants around falcon the whole game?
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Sloonei wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:29 am I assure you I am playing this game with town's best interests at heart.
I deliberately defended Falcon.

You did as well, and you cited me as a reason to vote DarlingMonroe.

Then you went after me. Why?
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:31 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:30 am
leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:29 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:26 am
leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:24 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:23 am
leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:20 am

I mean, some of your falcon interactions weren't the greatest. Why did you mostly ignore them D1 and D2? What was the point of your whole D3 defense of them, as you insisted it wasn't to save them?
My take on falcon was shite.

Not the greatest. Shite.
I know it's garbage but why did you feel the need to post that garbage?
Because I'd rather have fun than worry about what people think about me in a game on the Internet.
But that's just dodging the question. If posting defenses of random people you allegedly don't care about is "fun", you do you I guess, but there was clearly a motivation there.
I'll let you assign a motive to me.
Because you're falcon's partner and you tried to save them. You haven't exactly given me reason to doubt this hypothesis.
Knock yourself out.
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:32 am
Sloonei wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:29 am I assure you I am playing this game with town's best interests at heart.
I deliberately defended Falcon.
Why?
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I up and told everybody here I'm not defending myself on falcon shit.
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]

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leetic wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:33 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:32 am
Sloonei wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:29 am I assure you I am playing this game with town's best interests at heart.
I deliberately defended Falcon.
Why?
Oops.
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