Fallout New Vegas: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [LEGION CONQUEST]

[Michelle]

VC

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Day 1 elimination
Poll runs till Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:00 am
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You may select 1 option


Chelsea
0
No votes
Voters: None
Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None
DarlingMonroe
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dunnstral
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis
1
5%
Voters: Manny
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
LanMisa
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
2
10%
Voters: Creature, Dunnstral
Manny
1
5%
Voters: Chelsea
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Princess Abigail
0
No votes
Voters: None
Scotty
2
10%
Voters: Long Con, Jackofhearts2005
Seanzie
3
15%
Voters: falcon45ca, Epignosis, MacDougall
sig
5
25%
Voters: Seanzie, Scotty, ☆Princess Abigail☆, LanMisa, Michelle
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
No elimination / Sleep
0
No votes
Voters: None
No vote / Unvote
1
5%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime
Letting Bethesda ever touch Fallout again (spec)
5
25%
Voters: juliets, JaggedJimmyJay, Justplayingitcool, Thunal33, nutella
Total votes: 20

[JaggedJimmyJay]

The post cap has been lifted. You may post freely for the remainder of the day. Please be attentive to post caps moving forward and don’t exceed them, friends.

[Long Con]

As a life update I am now wanted by the Seminole Nation

Wow, this is worse than the time in Walmart with the headlights!

[Michelle]

@Jackofhearts2005 nutella ia not in the game, just saying

If it wasn't you saying nut may be wolfing, my bad.

[Dunnstral]

Spoiler: show

Also kind request to drop the skill issue meme.

I only use it with people that im relatively close with that i know wont realistically care about it or on myself so shrug.
I wont use it on you though if that was the worry.

I don't care about it for myself.
It makes my blood pressure rise for unrelated reasons.
I consider it just bad.

Also kind request to drop the skill issue meme.
It's not funny, it doesn't bring anything to the game and on top of that it's insulting if you look at it literally.

There's no reasoning with people who find that meme funny. Unfortunately I have come to realise that generationally they are broken. We ruined the kids Michelle.

Talk for yourself BigMac :p

Fwiw I am pre-emptively not applying usually Manny town meta looks to my mental model of Manny because I am very conscious that Manny gets overwhelmed when he lets himself get carried away in games and would be trying to hedge against that instinct in ways that might result in unusual looks.

The fact that he's actually posting with a pulse at all given the above might be strongly indicative he didn't cop an unfortunate wolf rand in this game tbh.

Manny and unfortunate wolf rand don't belong in the same sentence for me. I noticed he really enjoyed himself as a wolf.

Anyways, again, if anyone wants to give me some opinions on the last 9 pages or so, then I'll keep their thoughts in mind on first read-through.

Mac called me town leader while also saying he does trust me, so I guess I’ll try and summarize what I see with as little coloring as I can.

-Chelsea and Manny had a bit of a spat?
-mac is here and has only made 1 poop joke.
-almost everyone seems to townread Michelle apparently
-Lime Coke has declared I’m town, not gonna fight that fact anymore.
-Dunnstral has provided reads with reasons and is seemingly sheeping me
-Princess Abigail is bored and is trying to usurp me by getting to post cap first
-creature is gonna slank until things get interesting
-profit

Sooo
'almost everyone seems to townread Michelle apparently'
Means you don't but you choose to sheep the people I apparently pocketed?
Why I don't see real AI takes in your post here?

ok, gonna go get some coffee and hit the gym.

In the meantime, someone give a reason why Epignosis is town.

He made me giggle

Solid.
But explain me the reason, it passed over my head :blush:

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Prolific thread so far. Went to bed at the end of page 2, now it's page 11.

I'll catch up tonight, but I had an idea while driving home from work. If anyone wants to give me some suspicions or whatever that they have, then I can do the catchup sort of like a reread... to keep in mind some ideas like "X's progression was very towny/wolfy". If anyone wants to give some perspectives. Dinner first, so there's time for folks to respond with some angles.

I see Epi is going full-image-style, though if the images are just going to have text, then I don't see the point. I don't want to see billboards of post-text, I want nuance that a well-chosen image can illuminate, beyond, perhaps, what mere text can convey. :grin:

Courier 6 could be more of a town-friendly Indy, so maybe 5 threats.

If we delve into game meta a lot then courier could be anything from good to evil or just chaos agent.

I’ll go out on a limb though and say both them and house are survivor style roles and the other needs to die

I haven't played the game, I just looked it up and saw that he's the protagonist/Player Character. Is it one of those games where you can choose "the evil route"?

But in all seriousness, I think Lime Coke thinks he has a good read on what my town game looks like.

I think it *more* likely, however;l, that he’s TMIing me

Maybe. Or maybe you're the Wolf, and saying that is an attempt to give good mindset vibes to the thread.

A little early to be playing this hard isn’t it

Is that what you consider playing hard? :ponder: I thought it was just a single thought that occurred when reading Scotty's "he's TMI'ing me Town" thing.

Yes essentially you’ve got 3 options

1. Good
2. Evil
3. Libertarian:

it’s common to kill House as the courier hence my idea that they have to kill each other.

That's a thing to consider, thanks for sharing

So general thoughts:

Epi is NAI.

Scotty came in surprisingly strong, which was a good look, but his thoughts on Epi are weird. I’ll say third party for now and move on.

Mac, Jack, and Chelsea all have light town reads

Abi has a light mafia read

That is all

What your light town reads did to deserve it?

Ph Michelle is a solid town read also and light town reads of falcon and creature

Same question :smile:

Town Core

Mac
Lan
Chelsea
Scotty

Yeppers

You mean Mac is out of his scum range?

Scotty being so defensive of his scum game and Brad's take on it is imho enough to core that because I feel a wolf just rides that wave and plays to the style bread says he expects

Really? I consider denying townreads to be Basic Wolf 101.

I like this post. Feeling good about LC.

And good morning everyone ^^

All my town reads so far are based off a combo of gut/vibe, meta, and in game posts.

Some like falcon and Mac will be pretty clear by day 3 I’d say.

You, Chelsea, and Scotty seem to be doing a lot of solving attempts (even though scotty is voting for me 😢)

Jack and Mac are both 100% vibe right now

I have to question whether Chelsea is actually doing a lot of solving attempts. My memory says no. So I am not liking this analysis. Not a fan of saying to wait for day 3 either.

[Michelle]

I don't like the silence here.

[Long Con]

@Jackofhearts2005 nutella ia not in the game, just saying

If it wasn't you saying nut may be wolfing, my bad.

I think he was just being funny.

I don't like the silence here.

Yeah, I hope the last hour brings more players in.

[Michelle]

Chelsea would be another wagon I would vote.

Brad drops more in my reads

Can't focus much, I should sleep

[Jackofhearts2005]

@Jackofhearts2005 nutella ia not in the game, just saying

If it wasn't you saying nut may be wolfing, my bad.

That was a joke.

[Dunnstral]

I'd vote Sig over Seanzie, though it would be a compromise vote from me.

[Michelle]

@Jackofhearts2005 nutella ia not in the game, just saying

If it wasn't you saying nut may be wolfing, my bad.

I think he was just being funny.

I don't like the silence here.

Yeah, I hope the last hour brings more players in.

Ok, I can see it now

We really need actions here now

[Dunnstral]

Do people with special roles claim before elimination here?

[Lime Coke]

@Lime Coke Is it true, are you a'scared of Seanzie?

It's the opposite Seanzie is scared of me.

If I actually went after Seanzie he would cry to moderators.

[Lime Coke]

@Michelle

Something something, Brad, something.

Brad read above and explain why didn't you interact with Sean?
@Lime Coke

If I interacted with Seanzie, it would end up with me being banned.

He's an individual that doesn't learn his lesson so if he's up to be voted I'm all for just killing him and moving on.

[Michelle]

Do people with special roles claim before elimination here?

They should. Otoh, mafia has fake claims and I doubt they have any of the VTs as fake

[Long Con]

Do people with special roles claim before elimination here?

I wouldn't be averse to it, since I believe the rules allow it in this one. That's not always the case here. I think there are lots of extra roles in the list, though, so fake claims are likely. But, hey, that's what fakeclaims are for, so yeah, I expect some desperation claiming.

[Jackofhearts2005]

LC and Michelle are my towncore atm. *checks player list*

Did I say towncore? I meant only townreads. :-/

Though I do kinda vibe with Tony being like “we really gonna just walking into another D1 Sig yeet?”

[Long Con]

@Michelle

Something something, Brad, something.

Brad read above and explain why didn't you interact with Sean?
@Lime Coke

If I interacted with Seanzie, it would end up with me being banned.

He's an individual that doesn't learn his lesson so if he's up to be voted I'm all for just killing him and moving on.

This feels different than the way Seanzie described your relationship.

[Long Con]

LC and Michelle are my towncore atm. *checks player list*

Did I say towncore? I meant only townreads. :-/

Though I do kinda vibe with Tony being like “we really gonna just walking into another D1 Sig yeet?”

Well it is a Syndicate Classic.

[Michelle]

@Michelle

Something something, Brad, something.

Brad read above and explain why didn't you interact with Sean?
@Lime Coke

If I interacted with Seanzie, it would end up with me being banned.

He's an individual that doesn't learn his lesson so if he's up to be voted I'm all for just killing him and moving on.

Oh

[Lime Coke]

@Michelle

Something something, Brad, something.

Brad read above and explain why didn't you interact with Sean?
@Lime Coke

If I interacted with Seanzie, it would end up with me being banned.

He's an individual that doesn't learn his lesson so if he's up to be voted I'm all for just killing him and moving on.

This feels different than the way Seanzie described your relationship.

He's a liar if he said anything different.

I ended up banned from PersonalityCafe because he fucked up a game horribly, then after I torched him and called him out on his mistakes he cried to moderators about it and took a break from mafia after.

Like I wouldn't be making this shit up.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Did Chelsea just kinda disappear or did I just skip over most of her posts?

[Michelle]

LC and Michelle are my towncore atm. *checks player list*

Did I say towncore? I meant only townreads. :-/

Though I do kinda vibe with Tony being like “we really gonna just walking into another D1 Sig yeet?”

What have I done to deserve ir?

[Dunnstral]

Do people with special roles claim before elimination here?

They should. Otoh, mafia has fake claims and I doubt they have any of the VTs as fake

I'd think they would need some vt claims as fake, otherwise we'd believe every vt claim.

[Jackofhearts2005]

The later. Course, it is vday.

[Michelle]

Did Chelsea just kinda disappear or did I just skip over most of her posts?

She dipped...

[Lime Coke]

Yeah I just saw it now.

Him saying anything about having an accurate read on me is 100% false because literally he tried scumreading me like 5 games in a row and I was town.

And I berated him in the final 2 because, again, he's someone that doesn't learn his lesson.

[Long Con]

@Michelle

Something something, Brad, something.

Brad read above and explain why didn't you interact with Sean?
@Lime Coke

If I interacted with Seanzie, it would end up with me being banned.

He's an individual that doesn't learn his lesson so if he's up to be voted I'm all for just killing him and moving on.

This feels different than the way Seanzie described your relationship.

He's a liar if he said anything different.

I ended up banned from PersonalityCafe because he fucked up a game horribly, then after I torched him and called him out on his mistakes he cried to moderators about it and took a break from mafia after.

Like I wouldn't be making this shit up.

Well, I must say, I really hate all of that, I am distressed by my mafia friends fighting.

[Michelle]

Do people with special roles claim before elimination here?

They should. Otoh, mafia has fake claims and I doubt they have any of the VTs as fake

I'd think they would need some vt claims as fake, otherwise we'd believe every vt claim.

Town is uninformed.
A vt claim is easier to chop than a PR claim

[Jackofhearts2005]

LC and Michelle are my towncore atm. *checks player list*

Did I say towncore? I meant only townreads. :-/

Though I do kinda vibe with Tony being like “we really gonna just walking into another D1 Sig yeet?”

What have I done to deserve ir?

I don’t get the sense that you’re struggling at all. Your posts come across as things you really think. I also agree with your LC read.

I also think you’re just the easiest player on the player list for me to read.

[Michelle]

LC and Michelle are my towncore atm. *checks player list*

Did I say towncore? I meant only townreads. :-/

Though I do kinda vibe with Tony being like “we really gonna just walking into another D1 Sig yeet?”

What have I done to deserve ir?

I don’t get the sense that you’re struggling at all. Your posts come across as things you really think. I also agree with your LC read.

I also think you’re just the easiest player on the player list for me to read.

I can accept all that, thanks!

[Lime Coke]

@Michelle

Something something, Brad, something.

Brad read above and explain why didn't you interact with Sean?
@Lime Coke

If I interacted with Seanzie, it would end up with me being banned.

He's an individual that doesn't learn his lesson so if he's up to be voted I'm all for just killing him and moving on.

This feels different than the way Seanzie described your relationship.

He's a liar if he said anything different.

I ended up banned from PersonalityCafe because he fucked up a game horribly, then after I torched him and called him out on his mistakes he cried to moderators about it and took a break from mafia after.

Like I wouldn't be making this shit up.

Well, I must say, I really hate all of that, I am distressed by my mafia friends fighting.

It's on him, not me.

I do shit in response, I don't look to be an asshole to people for no reason.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yeah I just saw it now.

Him saying anything about having an accurate read on me is 100% false because literally he tried scumreading me like 5 games in a row and I was town.

And I berated him in the final 2 because, again, he's someone that doesn't learn his lesson.

Oof.

*closes notebook full of Brad and Seanzie kissing doodles*

[Lime Coke]

No idea if I posted this but yeah Chelsea not being around as much might be more town indicative?

Feel like she'd be doing more as mafia since she likes that a bit more.

[Long Con]

Yeah I just saw it now.

Him saying anything about having an accurate read on me is 100% false because literally he tried scumreading me like 5 games in a row and I was town.

And I berated him in the final 2 because, again, he's someone that doesn't learn his lesson.

Oof.

*closes notebook full of Brad and Seanzie kissing doodles*

Save those, you never know...

[Michelle]

Brad is not faking that from what I know about him.

[Dunnstral]

Do people with special roles claim before elimination here?

They should. Otoh, mafia has fake claims and I doubt they have any of the VTs as fake

I'd think they would need some vt claims as fake, otherwise we'd believe every vt claim.

Town is uninformed.
A vt claim is easier to chop than a PR claim

Yes but each VT has specific flavor to go with it, so if mafia were to just randomly claim one they would still be potentially counter claiming somebody.

And the thought that mafia would never claim to be a VT is false. At minimum because you seem to think mafia would never claim it, it ends up looking more like an innocent claim.

[Long Con]

No idea if I posted this but yeah Chelsea not being around as much might be more town indicative?

Feel like she'd be doing more as mafia since she likes that a bit more.

She might just be busy and NAI about it.

[Creature]

Welp shit I guess I don't have a lot of time for this EOD

[Lime Coke]

Yeah I just saw it now.

Him saying anything about having an accurate read on me is 100% false because literally he tried scumreading me like 5 games in a row and I was town.

And I berated him in the final 2 because, again, he's someone that doesn't learn his lesson.

Oof.

*closes notebook full of Brad and Seanzie kissing doodles*

Make them of me hitting a Burning Hammer on him on glass and thumbtacks.

[Creature]

I guess I'll prob just end up sheeping my townreads and atm they're mostly at the sig wagon

I just don't personally have a read on sig atm

[Lime Coke]

Also hi Jack how's it going?

Yeah I can be in that group you said earlier.

[Michelle]

No idea if I posted this but yeah Chelsea not being around as much might be more town indicative?

Feel like she'd be doing more as mafia since she likes that a bit more.

How would you describe her play?

[Lime Coke]

No idea if I posted this but yeah Chelsea not being around as much might be more town indicative?

Feel like she'd be doing more as mafia since she likes that a bit more.

How would you describe her play?

Kinda meta I wanted to keep back but mafia she's more than likely just gonna powerwolf and shove out mafia without much thought or re-consideration.

[Michelle]

Do people with special roles claim before elimination here?

They should. Otoh, mafia has fake claims and I doubt they have any of the VTs as fake

I'd think they would need some vt claims as fake, otherwise we'd believe every vt claim.

Town is uninformed.
A vt claim is easier to chop than a PR claim

Yes but each VT has specific flavor to go with it, so if mafia were to just randomly claim one they would still be potentially counter claiming somebody.

And the thought that mafia would never claim to be a VT is false. At minimum because you seem to think mafia would never claim it, it ends up looking more like an innocent claim.

Probably they know what VTs are in the game or what fake VT are safe to claim or something.
I meant to say that psychologically mafia would chose to claim PR imo, but now that we discussed it they may try a different route for wifom.

[Long Con]

I guess I'll prob just end up sheeping my townreads and atm they're mostly at the sig wagon

I just don't personally have a read on sig atm

This is like a reflection of that earlier post hold on.

[Michelle]

No idea if I posted this but yeah Chelsea not being around as much might be more town indicative?

Feel like she'd be doing more as mafia since she likes that a bit more.

How would you describe her play?

Kinda meta I wanted to keep back but mafia she's more than likely just gonna powerwolf and shove out mafia without much thought or re-consideration.

She is skilled enough to make variations in play ig. You are right but also it's easy to fake this town meta if needed.

What's your read for the current wagons?

[Long Con]

I guess I'll prob just end up sheeping my townreads and atm they're mostly at the sig wagon

I just don't personally have a read on sig atm

This is like a reflection of that earlier post hold on.

@Creature

My most solid town reads are all on Sean though so I might just join the wagon.

I can’t get any blame if they’re civ though and i want all the credit if they’re mafia

What is this, some form of irony?

[Lime Coke]

Let me look hold on.

[Dunnstral]

I guess I'll prob just end up sheeping my townreads and atm they're mostly at the sig wagon

I just don't personally have a read on sig atm

This is like a reflection of that earlier post hold on.

@Creature

My most solid town reads are all on Sean though so I might just join the wagon.

I can’t get any blame if they’re civ though and i want all the credit if they’re mafia :p

What is this, some form of irony?

What sig is saying in the second quote doesn't seem to hold up in their own iso.