Chelsea wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:24 pm
Thank you Lan get some rest I'm getting pulled in from friends right now I think the Team is Dunn/Jack like it was coming into the day but for now I'm glad you spelled it out.
Okay, yeah, thanks, I will!
Funnily enough even more teachers got sick, so... here I am coughing and sneezing my way through the lessons. Surely nothing bad could come from that!
I'll stay on Sleep to not allow wolves to stack with me worst-case, and I really hope that we get locked votes in LYLO.
Quite frankly, if me and Lime were wolves Lime would have 2x the number of posts and we also wouldn't be trying to build a masonery with each other. A team of me Lime Falcon leads to me needing to have to carry. So, I would've had a lot more interaction with Falcon, and I probably (I say probably) bus Brad but I certainly doesn't hard defend him in this way.
You can say wifom but I think anyone who knows Brad would know he wouldn't just allow wolf him to fall off if I'm his partner.
Chelsea wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:01 pm
What are your most pressing concerns with my slot by the way? I don't think I've seen much said about why I'm a wolf besides my lack of good falcon interactions. While you know my opinion on that is there anything else?
For most of the game I liked some individual posts of yours, but I also felt a lot like you were... holding back? Like there was more in terms of depth, volume, I dunno, that you could have shown but didn't. As a result I mostly had you in the null with towny tendencies area.
I did not like how the exchange with Mac went yesterday and said as much but with Mac flipping 3P and Mac very obviously fighting for survival (and nothing else) I feel like I need to discard everything from that exchange, maybe. It also happened before my getting sick day so admittedly I didn't do a lot of backreading since then.
I want to be frank that this is mostly POE. If I had to rate you, Lime and Jack in terms of confidence that they may flip wolf right now I... think I'd say, from most to least:
Lime>Jack>>>you
Jack and Lime kind of switched positions due to Lime's play today and since I find it odd that nobody seems to be interested in Lime anyways. I still don't feel like Manny's world of you and Lime holds much water due to how D2 played out. Jack is... apparently throwing shit at everything but at least Jack IS doing something.
In terms of teambuilding I once again don't see any world that doesn't contain Jack though... my most probable world would be Jack/Lime. Would also check out with Jack pushing both you and me in some way or capacity all day. I could still see Jack/you with some heavy distancing and an attempt to win F3 or F5 after Manny died during the night, though. But the former seems more likely to me right now.
To say I've been holding back is correct. As a villager, my biggest weakness is getting my point across in a way that gets people to follow or at least listen to my opinion on a topic. So, a lot of times I simply don't go the extra mile or step if you will? I'll state my thought and then leave it at that because my brain auto goes to "what's the point of explaining further" when I don't think people will listen.
Mac being 3p makes sense and I think his reads need to highly be taken with a grain of salt considering we know how flipped a lot of them (look at Epi) depending on who he had primed and was trying to get killed. Do I think all his reads were bad? No, but they certainly were motivated. If you have more stuff on Mac I can go on and talk about it but I don't like talking to Mac when he goes full "Me me me" mode because it doesn't seem productive.
If Manny and Lan are both villagers and told me I was just prob wrong on Brad I would prob vote Brad over Dunn tbh but we're not at that point where I need to think that over.
Chelsea wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:01 pm
What are your most pressing concerns with my slot by the way? I don't think I've seen much said about why I'm a wolf besides my lack of good falcon interactions. While you know my opinion on that is there anything else?
For most of the game I liked some individual posts of yours, but I also felt a lot like you were... holding back? Like there was more in terms of depth, volume, I dunno, that you could have shown but didn't. As a result I mostly had you in the null with towny tendencies area.
I did not like how the exchange with Mac went yesterday and said as much but with Mac flipping 3P and Mac very obviously fighting for survival (and nothing else) I feel like I need to discard everything from that exchange, maybe. It also happened before my getting sick day so admittedly I didn't do a lot of backreading since then.
I want to be frank that this is mostly POE. If I had to rate you, Lime and Jack in terms of confidence that they may flip wolf right now I... think I'd say, from most to least:
Lime>Jack>>>you
Jack and Lime kind of switched positions due to Lime's play today and since I find it odd that nobody seems to be interested in Lime anyways. I still don't feel like Manny's world of you and Lime holds much water due to how D2 played out. Jack is... apparently throwing shit at everything but at least Jack IS doing something.
In terms of teambuilding I once again don't see any world that doesn't contain Jack though... my most probable world would be Jack/Lime. Would also check out with Jack pushing both you and me in some way or capacity all day. I could still see Jack/you with some heavy distancing and an attempt to win F3 or F5 after Manny died during the night, though. But the former seems more likely to me right now.
To say I've been holding back is correct. As a villager, my biggest weakness is getting my point across in a way that gets people to follow or at least listen to my opinion on a topic. So, a lot of times I simply don't go the extra mile or step if you will? I'll state my thought and then leave it at that because my brain auto goes to "what's the point of explaining further" when I don't think people will listen.
Mac being 3p makes sense and I think his reads need to highly be taken with a grain of salt considering we know how flipped a lot of them (look at Epi) depending on who he had primed and was trying to get killed. Do I think all his reads were bad? No, but they certainly were motivated. If you have more stuff on Mac I can go on and talk about it but I don't like talking to Mac when he goes full "Me me me" mode because it doesn't seem productive.
Regarding Mac's reads, I'm pretty sure they were shielding the players they had primed already. Creature and TonyStarkPrime. That likely warped the rest of their reads as they had to townread those two.
Chelsea wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:01 pm
What are your most pressing concerns with my slot by the way? I don't think I've seen much said about why I'm a wolf besides my lack of good falcon interactions. While you know my opinion on that is there anything else?
For most of the game I liked some individual posts of yours, but I also felt a lot like you were... holding back? Like there was more in terms of depth, volume, I dunno, that you could have shown but didn't. As a result I mostly had you in the null with towny tendencies area.
I did not like how the exchange with Mac went yesterday and said as much but with Mac flipping 3P and Mac very obviously fighting for survival (and nothing else) I feel like I need to discard everything from that exchange, maybe. It also happened before my getting sick day so admittedly I didn't do a lot of backreading since then.
I want to be frank that this is mostly POE. If I had to rate you, Lime and Jack in terms of confidence that they may flip wolf right now I... think I'd say, from most to least:
Lime>Jack>>>you
Jack and Lime kind of switched positions due to Lime's play today and since I find it odd that nobody seems to be interested in Lime anyways. I still don't feel like Manny's world of you and Lime holds much water due to how D2 played out. Jack is... apparently throwing shit at everything but at least Jack IS doing something.
In terms of teambuilding I once again don't see any world that doesn't contain Jack though... my most probable world would be Jack/Lime. Would also check out with Jack pushing both you and me in some way or capacity all day. I could still see Jack/you with some heavy distancing and an attempt to win F3 or F5 after Manny died during the night, though. But the former seems more likely to me right now.
To say I've been holding back is correct. As a villager, my biggest weakness is getting my point across in a way that gets people to follow or at least listen to my opinion on a topic. So, a lot of times I simply don't go the extra mile or step if you will? I'll state my thought and then leave it at that because my brain auto goes to "what's the point of explaining further" when I don't think people will listen.
Mac being 3p makes sense and I think his reads need to highly be taken with a grain of salt considering we know how flipped a lot of them (look at Epi) depending on who he had primed and was trying to get killed. Do I think all his reads were bad? No, but they certainly were motivated. If you have more stuff on Mac I can go on and talk about it but I don't like talking to Mac when he goes full "Me me me" mode because it doesn't seem productive.
Regarding Mac's reads, I'm pretty sure they were shielding the players they had primed already. Creature and TonyStarkPrime. That likely warped the rest of their reads as they had to townread those two.
Popping in.
But Mac didn’t even townread Creature. He pushed to yeet him for some reason, I guess to get out of dodge.
Dunnstral wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:33 pm
Chelsea I will hear you out instead of assuming it is you. And same to Jack and Lime Coke.
Same, I think it's you atm but you know me more than anyone that I'll listen.
I started the push on Falcon, do you think I would bus like that?
Was this before or after the result? Because I feel like it was blatantly obvious what happened after Manny's result was outted, at least I remember stating it. I'll look back and check.
Dunnstral wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:33 pm
Chelsea I will hear you out instead of assuming it is you. And same to Jack and Lime Coke.
Same, I think it's you atm but you know me more than anyone that I'll listen.
I started the push on Falcon, do you think I would bus like that?
Was this before or after the result? Because I feel like it was blatantly obvious what happened after Manny's result was outted, at least I remember stating it. I'll look back and check.
It was after the result. The result came before Seanzie died and I pushed Falcon for a different reason - we had seen a lot of pr flips and I thought it likely that Falcon acting made them anti-town
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I voted sleep so no funny business could happen with moving votes, as it already seemed decided that we would be doing that (and it wouldn't cause us to lose)
I voted sleep so no funny business could happen with moving votes, as it already seemed decided that we would be doing that (and it wouldn't cause us to lose)
To be clear, since you don't know me well, I was absolutely taking the piss with that picture.
I do generally think that sleeping at lylo doesn't do anything to help the town but I'm not like actually sore about people deciding to take the day.
Manny died, to nobody's surprise. One more villager who had a strong town read on me gone...what a surprise.
Nothing changed from my perspective. I'm pretty certain it's just Jack and Brad here. Dunn making sure to lock in the sleep there before shenanigans happen is very towny, Chelsea feels townier than Jack and FAAAAR townier than Brad.
Considering my timezone and my inability to switch votes at EOD I feel like the way to do this is for me to vote someone and then convince everyone else to follow me in that thunderdome scenario. I know Manny's stance was very much "don't vote Lan" but if I just vote as an "extra" here my vote becomes kind of meaningless and if I end up voting a villager by the time I go to sleep tomorrow evening...game's locked and we lost.
That's something for ThursdayLan to make a final decision on though...I need to get something in order until Friday for my teacher's exams in April/May and since it's online I run into huge issues if I miss that target time. Kinda doubt there would be much to discuss right now anyways, with Dunn and Lime being mostly absent over the last two phases and Chelsea apparently also being busy for now.
I've accepted that if you're a villager I lose although you'd have to do some pretty amazing stuff to change my mind. Although given I think you're gonna vote me today I don't need to worry about that.
I mostly want to hear from Dunn/Brad today because I'm not really worried about today I'm more worried about the f3 I'm gonna be in tomorrow.
Sigh... I really hoped this game would end before school restarts; now I am very busy with school-related stuff, still wake up sick every day, and still take the game more seriously and with more effort than...mostly everyone else.
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