Kagemusha (ENDGAME)

[Long Con]

yeah, it's true, it's a towny thought, you'd think it if you were town, but I don't really imagine you posting it if you were town

Why not? It's intended to shame-inspire the rest of us.

yeah maybe good point

Fortunately for me, I am beyond such things this game.

[TonyStarkPrime]

not like wholly an emoji read but mostly wholly an emoji read

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Tony is town. Move your votes.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

yeah, it's true, it's a towny thought, you'd think it if you were town, but I don't really imagine you posting it if you were town

Why not? It's intended to shame-inspire the rest of us.

yeah maybe good point

Fortunately for me, I am beyond such things this game.

You just made two posts because of it.

[Long Con]

yeah, it's true, it's a towny thought, you'd think it if you were town, but I don't really imagine you posting it if you were town

Why not? It's intended to shame-inspire the rest of us.

yeah maybe good point

Fortunately for me, I am beyond such things this game.

You just made two posts because of it.

Yeah, but they weren't helpful.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Yeah, but they weren't helpful.

Because of those two posts, I now know your alignment with total certainty in this game and in the next five games you will play.

[Long Con]

Yeah, but they weren't helpful.

Because of those two posts, I now know your alignment with total certainty in this game and in the next five games you will play.

Even if true, that's less relevant than one might think to the outcome.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

PA - good vote
Simon - good vote
Tony - bad vote

[Scotty]

I don't think Tony is a good vote.

And why is this

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't think Tony is a good vote.

And why is this

I think his reception of motobot and separately of me has been authentic.

[Scotty]

I'm going to be straight:

I have no clue about this game. My reads do come from my brain, but they feel barely better than arbitrary. I am not even close to finding comfortable footing or knowing what I am doing in this thread. While that is attributable to some degree to the state of the thread itself, I am probably also tired, old, and out of practice.

You could also be Maf

Unless activity level changes do you think we ever catch W Jay this game?

I do

It all depends on whether or not he decides to kill me in the next 2 days tho

[Scotty]

I'm going to be straight:

I have no clue about this game. My reads do come from my brain, but they feel barely better than arbitrary. I am not even close to finding comfortable footing or knowing what I am doing in this thread. While that is attributable to some degree to the state of the thread itself, I am probably also tired, old, and out of practice.

You could also be Maf

Unless activity level changes do you think we ever catch W Jay this game?

I do

It all depends on whether or not he decides to kill me in the next 2 days tho

To clarify- kill me at night in the next 2 cycles

[Scotty]

Tony is town. Move your votes.

I think I’ve also reached that conclusion

[VOTE: Princess Abbi] aubergine

I conversely don’t think Simon is a good vote

[Scotty]

JJJ is not one of my top town atm

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't really expect to be regarded as Mr. Beacon of Town here, because my grip on the game is tenuous and weak. If anyone feels a better grasp, by all means, take the wheel. I'm working with what I have in front of me.

[Scotty]

Town reads:
Tony
Simon
Falcon
Wilgy

Townlean:
Moto
Epi

Scumlean:
JJJ
Long con

SCUMREAD:
Princess Abbi

TALK MORE:
Lorab
Sig
Abbi sophia

[Long Con]

[Scotty]

I don't really expect to be regarded as Mr. Beacon of Town here, because my grip on the game is tenuous and weak. If anyone feels a better grasp, by all means, take the wheel. I'm working with what I have in front of me.

Word

However, I can’t pinpoint any moment so far this game that has me feeling like you’re naturally coming to your conclusions with evidence- and actually, you tend to blame the lack of direction on lack of others posting. While that’s not an illegitimate reason, it’s also convenient.

Tony is right- thinking it is one thing, talking about it (which Tony started with) is a whole other thing. Performative.

[Long Con]

[VOTE: Princess Juicebox] aubergine

[Scotty]

Can’t tell if you’re Greta-ing into the void or responding to my read of you.

I just…don’t?

[Long Con]

oh no


my DST settings!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't really expect to be regarded as Mr. Beacon of Town here, because my grip on the game is tenuous and weak. If anyone feels a better grasp, by all means, take the wheel. I'm working with what I have in front of me.

Word

However, I can’t pinpoint any moment so far this game that has me feeling like you’re naturally coming to your conclusions with evidence- and actually, you tend to blame the lack of direction on lack of others posting. While that’s not an illegitimate reason, it’s also convenient.

Tony is right- thinking it is one thing, talking about it (which Tony started with) is a whole other thing. Performative.

As an example of my struggle: much of my methodology is driven by interaction/association. I'd love to do one of my big colorful charts, but it'd be nigh pointless right now (I couldn't dissociate enough pairs of people to make it a useful exercise). I don't really "blame" people -- folks have limited time to play a game on a forum. I get it. Hell, so do I. But the game is the game.

[Scotty]

oh no


my DST settings!

[Scotty]

I don't really expect to be regarded as Mr. Beacon of Town here, because my grip on the game is tenuous and weak. If anyone feels a better grasp, by all means, take the wheel. I'm working with what I have in front of me.

Word

However, I can’t pinpoint any moment so far this game that has me feeling like you’re naturally coming to your conclusions with evidence- and actually, you tend to blame the lack of direction on lack of others posting. While that’s not an illegitimate reason, it’s also convenient.

Tony is right- thinking it is one thing, talking about it (which Tony started with) is a whole other thing. Performative.

As an example of my struggle: much of my methodology is driven by interaction/association. I'd love to do one of my big colorful charts, but it'd be nigh pointless right now (I couldn't dissociate enough pairs of people to make it a useful exercise). I don't really "blame" people -- folks have limited time to play a game on a forum. I get it. Hell, so do I. But the game is the game.

Do you think it is a fair criticism, though?

[Long Con]

Can’t tell if you’re Greta-ing into the void or responding to my read of you.

I just…don’t?

Yeah, it was for you. Stop lying about me.

[Long Con]

Well, I don't care, I'm going to ***** a ***** and then have a shower, it was a long day and this Mafia Day was supposed to be done.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Do you think it is a fair criticism, though?

I understand why the criticism exists. It is "fair" inasmuch as it's a generic thing to believe about my play, and within the constraints of human cognition it's easy to see where it comes from. It is probably not "fair" from the standpoint of "what should actually be expected of JaggedJimmyJay the human behind the posts", but I don't demand people exhibit that kind of perfect zero-bias assessment of my play.

It's fine.

[Epignosis]

Town reads:
Tony
Simon
Falcon
Wilgy

Townlean:
Moto
Epi

Scumlean:
JJJ
Long con

SCUMREAD:
Princess Abbi

TALK MORE:
Lorab
Sig
Abbi sophia

Explain Simon please.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

A dual-Abigail mafia team would be fun.

[DrWilgy]

thinks going into eod.

Out of the playing players, I think TSP and Falc are the wolfier. Falc W > TSP W though.

Out of the not really here players PAbigail is probably the best vote. They were just not here enough to warrant votes compared to the rest of them. Further PAbigail not really having anything to add following catchup is bleh. I do have hestitate as I've seen this cold footed PAbigail recently be town, HOWEVER that doesn't constitute a reason to not vote them.

Scotty, LC, JJJ, Epi, Moto all have reasons as to why I wouldn't vote so that's fun.

D1 PoE put your consensus between {AbigailS, Falc, LoRab, Sig, Simon, TSP}

[DrWilgy]

I see PAbigail has taken the lead.

Godspeed you Princess Juicebox.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I am on board with the POE, Wilgy. I don't really see it with Tony, but I am willing to listen on that one.

[DrWilgy]

I am on board with the POE, Wilgy. I don't really see it with Tony, but I am willing to listen on that one.

It's just gut.

I do often find myself on this issue with Tony though. Tony's posts always have a 'shoot from the hip' feel to me and that often makes me think that progression is splotchy if not missing and that generally leads to dissonance with how I read.

SO yeah, gut read Tony W but I often gut read Tony W, so I'm hesitant to trust that without the input of others.

[Long Con]

Scotty town Epi town

[Long Con]

Asking why I say that will probably end with disappointment.

[Simon]

@Simon, why do you suspect TonyStarkPrime?

I recall you saying something about tonystarkprime being in cahoots with epi.
However that was a while ago, it was also back when there wasn't a lot of information to go of.
All things considered, I probably should of waited, but oh well.

[Abigail Sophia]

Another out of expectation (OoE) is PrincessAbbi. Those 4 posts don’t say much, and not to use the participation card but it’s not what I expect from her

This is the first game I've played where my father hasn't spoken for me (I think) so I'm not used to checking on the conversation

I….uh…sorry, I was talking about the other Abbi and until you just posted I didn’t even know there was another Abbi in this game

But you both can be princesses if you want. I’d prob just call you Princess Sophia for clarification though

How do you do? What’s your read on…say, me, or JJJ right now?

Sorry I thought you were talking about me because PA hadn't posted yet

I haven't seen any reason to think of you as bad...I did at one point consider voting JJJ but I think he's in the clear (for now)

[DrWilgy]

thinks going into eod.

Out of the playing players, I think TSP and Falc are the wolfier. Falc W > TSP W though.

Out of the not really here players PAbigail is probably the best vote. They were just not here enough to warrant votes compared to the rest of them. Further PAbigail not really having anything to add following catchup is bleh. I do have hestitate as I've seen this cold footed PAbigail recently be town, HOWEVER that doesn't constitute a reason to not vote them.

Scotty, LC, JJJ, Epi, Moto all have reasons as to why I wouldn't vote so that's fun.

D1 PoE put your consensus between {AbigailS, Falc, LoRab, Sig, Simon, TSP}

hahaha, I'm dumb.

AbigailS is not Abigals. I misread my own PoE while typing and didn't finish.

it's actually {AbigalS, Falc, LoRab, PAbigail, Sig, Simon, TSP}

AbigailS not being Abigails means I need to includ properly PAbigail. A 7 player PoE is kinda gross, but I'm unsure if it gets better than that.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Simon, why do you suspect TonyStarkPrime?

I recall you saying something about tonystarkprime being in cahoots with epi.
However that was a while ago, it was also back when there wasn't a lot of information to go of.
All things considered, I probably should of waited, but oh well.

Thanks for your answer. To be clear, I haven't suspected that Tony and Epi are in cahoots. I briefly had suspicion of Tony on his own.

I'd love to hear what you think of recent developments.

[DrWilgy]

I shouldn't have given Falc the day pass. POE is too big for that.

Falc feels not like town Falc. If I'm hunting for W I vote there.

[Abigail Sophia]

@Abigail Sophia i saw you don’t usually respond unless spoken directly to- I have no desire to vote you today.

But I am curious how you usually approach mafia- do you tend to follow people that have conviction of other people’s guilt, or make your own personal cases against people?

I mostly use information that other people have collected seeing as they are usually better and more experienced than I am

[JaggedJimmyJay]

falcon does have some limp fish energy, yes.

[DrWilgy]

I'm going to be straight:

I have no clue about this game. My reads do come from my brain, but they feel barely better than arbitrary. I am not even close to finding comfortable footing or knowing what I am doing in this thread. While that is attributable to some degree to the state of the thread itself, I am probably also tired, old, and out of practice.

You could also be Maf

Unless activity level changes do you think we ever catch W Jay this game?

At this rate he’s the most likely chop tomorrow tbh

Why is that? Not really sure as afew have at least given him town-ish cred today?

[Simon]

I looked at Simon’s iso. It’s extremely lacking, filled with real zingers like ‘I can’t vote’ and ‘oh Nevermind’

HOWEVER there’s something that doesn’t give off bad ninja vibes. It’s not a try-hard effort that I would associate with someone that is trying to keep up appearances.

I’d even go so far as to town read him

Yeah, it turns out that I wasn't logged in. Sorry If I seem questionable after this problem.

[DrWilgy]

I'm going to be straight:

I have no clue about this game. My reads do come from my brain, but they feel barely better than arbitrary. I am not even close to finding comfortable footing or knowing what I am doing in this thread. While that is attributable to some degree to the state of the thread itself, I am probably also tired, old, and out of practice.

You could also be Maf

Unless activity level changes do you think we ever catch W Jay this game?

Most def. Why do you doubt?

because too many non players will result in an inability to yeet players that at least have a pulse.

[DrWilgy]

I'm going to be straight:

I have no clue about this game. My reads do come from my brain, but they feel barely better than arbitrary. I am not even close to finding comfortable footing or knowing what I am doing in this thread. While that is attributable to some degree to the state of the thread itself, I am probably also tired, old, and out of practice.

You could also be Maf

Unless activity level changes do you think we ever catch W Jay this game?

I do

It all depends on whether or not he decides to kill me in the next 2 days tho

lol, @JaggedJimmyJay all them say they can catch you as w in this environment. What do you say to this?

[Epignosis]

falcon does have some limp fish energy, yes.

Limp...fish...

energy.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

lol, @JaggedJimmyJay all them say they can catch you as w in this environment. What do you say to this?

I admire their courage.

I'd probably sweep.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I still think Simon is suspicious.

[Long Con]

Yeah that falcon ISO looked bad. I wonder if I had looked at it after someone said "WOW falcon is screaming Town!" that I would feel differently? I'll try.

Stupid Mafia I wasn't gonna