Kagemusha (ENDGAME)

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm going to call sig a lock civilian. Anybody know why?

I don't know why, but that sounds spectacular if it can be justified. I am unable to review his posts at the moment; I am ruffling through late work at the office.

[Epignosis]

I'm going to call sig a lock civilian. Anybody know why?

I don't know why, but that sounds spectacular if it can be justified. I am unable to review his posts at the moment; I am ruffling through late work at the office.

Scotty is looking good, but j need more from him. And I don’t appreciate the sig vote joke

sig didn't know Scotty was dead.

Nah, them fuckers killed Scotty. Somebody is paying attention.

Why do you say rhis

This* rip my phone

This is Class A acting if sig is mafia.

[Long Con]

Nice.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

To be clear, sig posted this before that:

The scotty kill is odd, I’ll need to do an NKA of them though.

I don’t recall a single post by PA, however both Epi and Jay reasoning mirror the game that just ended where she was civ and also misvoted fairly early I think. (I died D2 and stopped paying attention, but we won so GoC 2024 here I come )

However, given that it looks like sig was copying notes from Night 1 (in the content you referenced), your point may stand. We're forced to take that or leave it, but I don't object at this point.

[Epignosis]

I actually don't fucking understand sig.

Scotty is looking good, but j need more from him. And I don’t appreciate the sig vote joke

A few posts stand out to me from scotty
1. His read list: I’m thinking we have one mafia in his scum reads at least hence the kill then 1-2, depending on mafia size, in the town area. Potentially one in the talk more, but I know I’m town, so that’s either lorab or AS. Who I’m pretty sure I called PS a second ago oops

Lorab we should hear more from this phase and AS seemed active just hard to place. I personally plan to focus on the scum lean unless we get some big news.

It should be noted even with LC/Jay both here Scotty did target Jay more. Is anyone still familiar with Jays meta regarding NKing people who suspect him?

Town reads:
Tony
Simon
Falcon
Wilgy

Townlean:
Moto
Epi

Scumlean:
JJJ
Long con

SCUMREAD:
Princess Abbi

TALK MORE:
Lorab
Sig
Abbi sophia

The other big thing I noticed is he was engaging Epi gang a lot. I’ve got a gut feeling that this is important, but I can’t articulate it at this time.


So this is where the odd comment still stands. Besides the read list and some points scotty wasn’t a town leader right now but he was also semi active.

I’d think mafia would go for a low/no poster or shoot for the top end with epi/Jay.

So I think the main focus for me in the next day or so is to do an ISO of Jay, Epi, LC, AS, and Simon.

I do still have epi as a town read and AS/Simon/LC as a Null.

[Epignosis]

To be clear, sig posted this before that:

The scotty kill is odd, I’ll need to do an NKA of them though.

I don’t recall a single post by PA, however both Epi and Jay reasoning mirror the game that just ended where she was civ and also misvoted fairly early I think. (I died D2 and stopped paying attention, but we won so GoC 2024 here I come )

However, given that it looks like sig was copying notes from Night 1 (in the content you referenced), your point may stand. We're forced to take that or leave it, but I don't object at this point.

Oh, okay then. Jesus. Turning 40 sucks.

[Long Con]

So I think the main focus for me in the next day or so is to do an ISO of Jay, Epi, LC, AS, and Simon.

I like this, should be good reads.

[Long Con]

To be clear, sig posted this before that:

The scotty kill is odd, I’ll need to do an NKA of them though.

I don’t recall a single post by PA, however both Epi and Jay reasoning mirror the game that just ended where she was civ and also misvoted fairly early I think. (I died D2 and stopped paying attention, but we won so GoC 2024 here I come )

However, given that it looks like sig was copying notes from Night 1 (in the content you referenced), your point may stand. We're forced to take that or leave it, but I don't object at this point.

Oh, okay then. Jesus. Turning 40 sucks.

LOL. It looks towny for you anyway, so that's a plus.

[Epignosis]

Either way, don't think sig is mafia.

[Epignosis]

So I've got a goodie list of:

Me
sig
moto
Simon

[Long Con]

So I've got a goodie list of:

Me
sig
moto
Simon

Yeah, best I can say for Simon and moto for now is that I'll follow your lead on it.

Since we're in a towncore together, even though you didn't list JJJ and I but no biggie, brother...

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm very good with motobot, at least by the standards of this game. If he is mafia, I would be quite duped. I am unsure about Simon, but I'll take Epi's word for it (and return to the Scotty kill being strange for him).

[Epignosis]

I'm very good with motobot, at least by the standards of this game. If he is mafia, I would be quite duped. I am unsure about Simon, but I'll take Epi's word for it (and return to the Scotty kill being strange for him).

If you think Simon is mafia, grill him. He's one of the worst liars in the world. Go for it. You have my blessing.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Simon are you aligned with the mafia faction?

[Epignosis]

He's not Glorfindel. Jesus.

@Simon Why did your team kill Scotty?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I would appreciate reads on DrWilgy.

[Epignosis]

I would appreciate reads on DrWilgy.

Wilgy gave a lot of rapid fire opinions on people.

Why can't you parse those yourself?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I would appreciate reads on DrWilgy.

Wilgy gave a lot of rapid fire opinions on people.

Why can't you parse those yourself?

Just now leaving the office. Not digging around right now.

[Epignosis]

I would appreciate reads on DrWilgy.

Wilgy gave a lot of rapid fire opinions on people.

Why can't you parse those yourself?

Just now leaving the office. Not digging around right now.

I apologize anyway. That was rude. Let me look.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

My general impression of Wilgy has been positive. I’m looking for other viewpoints.

[Epignosis]

thinks going into eod.

Out of the playing players, I think TSP and Falc are the wolfier. Falc W > TSP W though.

Out of the not really here players PAbigail is probably the best vote. They were just not here enough to warrant votes compared to the rest of them. Further PAbigail not really having anything to add following catchup is bleh. I do have hestitate as I've seen this cold footed PAbigail recently be town, HOWEVER that doesn't constitute a reason to not vote them.

Scotty, LC, JJJ, Epi, Moto all have reasons as to why I wouldn't vote so that's fun.

D1 PoE put your consensus between {AbigailS, Falc, LoRab, Sig, Simon, TSP}

This is the most substantial post. If I had a gripe, it's why a bunch of us are lumped together as good.

[Epignosis]

My general impression of Wilgy has been positive. I’m looking for other viewpoints.

Well, that's MY problem. A positive opinion of Wilgy means he's bad.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Maybe that big caps lock HOWEVER caveat is suspicious if I allow myself to reach.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

So I agree with Epi, I don't think you noticed anything.

I only noticed that you didn't post much in Pyre (similar to Don't Starve), and that was true. You were a civilian in Pyre, so I know that "being quiet" doesn't necessarily mean you have evil intentions.

I don't have any real suspicion of you right now.

He came in quick, knowing he was voted. Snap voted you, then went to bed

And now that you don't suspect him and TR him, he's gonna give you a top TR as well

He's given a 50/50 read on Simon, prolly the least controversial read of all time

How different was his Maf game? Cuz this all seems pretty surface level stuff that I'd imagine many and most players could perform as any faction

This looks like town falcon.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I am on board with the POE, Wilgy. I don't really see it with Tony, but I am willing to listen on that one.

It's just gut.

I do often find myself on this issue with Tony though. Tony's posts always have a 'shoot from the hip' feel to me and that often makes me think that progression is splotchy if not missing and that generally leads to dissonance with how I read.

SO yeah, gut read Tony W but I often gut read Tony W, so I'm hesitant to trust that without the input of others.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Wilgy and Tony are an interesting fit together. I don't much see it in isolation between them, but I could see the pair.

As a single pre-flip association, this read has limited value. But it'll inspire a more dedicated review of associations. I hope there's enough to work with.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Yeah that falcon ISO looked bad. I wonder if I had looked at it after someone said "WOW falcon is screaming Town!" that I would feel differently? I'll try.

Stupid Mafia I wasn't gonna

What made you feel this way at the time? What is your current view?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

But it'll inspire a more dedicated review of associations. I hope there's enough to work with.

Update halfway through:

No.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm seeing a lot of JJJ accusing longcon over unusual behavior. But seeing as I rarely play this, I'm not sure how longcon normally plays.

However the real noticable thing is that JJJ is the most active player in the game thus far. And because of this, he just might be talking so much that he's running out of crap to throw at people.

He had good accusations at the start of the game but now it just feels kinda random at this point. And again, I don't play this much, so I'm not familiar with how people normally play.

This might not turn out to be true, but I just thought I'd say something.

I kinda glossed over this post at first, but I think I might love it for Simon. He's right, or at least as right as I need him to be. A lot of these assertions about me are close to the truth -- my accusations have been almost arbitrary, as a sort of desperation measure to squeeze something useful out of this game and find better footing. I think this is a good, nuanced read by Simon even if he incorrectly concludes with suspicion of me (I get it). I am more comfortable with Simon as a civilian read than I was before.

He understands my plays if not necessarily my motivations.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Day 2 Blind Assocations



Yellow - I have no good reason to say they're not mafia together.
Green - I doubt they're mafia together.

I hesitated to do this, because I expected it to turn out useless. Unfortunately, I was correct. This is mostly useless. An ideal table is minimally yellow, not entirely yellow. I cannot clear anyone with this, and I cannot really empower my suspicion of anyone with this. But maybe it'll have a purpose later.

At least I found that previous Simon post in the process.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Simon @motobot @Abigail Sophia

I'd be interested to know what each of you thinks of Epignosis so far in this game.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

DrWilgy's Day 1 suspicion of Tony and falcon might be the most important thing in the game to sort. I would really like to know where all three stand on each other right now.

@DrWilgy, @TonyStarkPrime, @falcon45ca

[TonyStarkPrime]

no update on either because neither has done anything today (sorry)

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’m trusting your town read of Wilgy which is running headstrong into Epi’s read and I’m gonna think about what that means maybe tomorrow

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I’m trusting your town read of Wilgy which is running headstrong into Epi’s read and I’m gonna think about what that means maybe tomorrow

I’m strongly considering rescinding that read, but I’m waiting for him to speak.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Part of me wonders if Wilgy's reads from Day 1 are not of the usual Wilgy style (and if Wilgy is the sort to endorse a shrug vote against Princess Abigail). There's some potential for faking, but I am unsure.

[falcon45ca]

DrWilgy's Day 1 suspicion of Tony and falcon might be the most important thing in the game to sort. I would really like to know where all three stand on each other right now.

@DrWilgy, @TonyStarkPrime, @falcon45ca

TSP is prolly town, Wilgy is prolly who the fuck knows

[falcon45ca]

He's not Glorfindel. Jesus.

@Simon Why did your team kill Scotty?

[falcon45ca]

Man struggles to solve an unsolvable game

Man finds the task to be a... struggle

Man is murdered for failing to do the impossible

We're playing Mafia. We sure are.

Do you honestly believe Mafia to be an unsolvable game?

[TonyStarkPrime]

He's not Glorfindel. Jesus.

@Simon Why did your team kill Scotty?

Do you?

[falcon45ca]

He's not Glorfindel. Jesus.

@Simon Why did your team kill Scotty?

Do you?

He defeated a Balrog during the Fall of Gondolin, you bet yer ass I do

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab Who else is on your team?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Man struggles to solve an unsolvable game

Man finds the task to be a... struggle

Man is murdered for failing to do the impossible

We're playing Mafia. We sure are.

Do you honestly believe Mafia to be an unsolvable game?

Certainly not. This game.

[falcon45ca]

Man struggles to solve an unsolvable game

Man finds the task to be a... struggle

Man is murdered for failing to do the impossible

We're playing Mafia. We sure are.

Do you honestly believe Mafia to be an unsolvable game?

Certainly not. This game.

It's D2.






I find this mentality atypical of you

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It's D2.

I find this mentality atypical of you

Well no kidding it’s atypical. I rarely have this problem. Most games are solvable on Day 1 (not that they are successfully solved, but there are avenues to achieve it). This game is only barely better than wild guessing.

[falcon45ca]

It's D2.

I find this mentality atypical of you

Well no kidding it’s atypical. I rarely have this problem. Most games are solvable on Day 1 (not that they are successfully solved, but there are avenues to achieve it). This game is only barely better than wild guessing.

Do you have similar troubles solving the game when you're Maf?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It's D2.

I find this mentality atypical of you

Well no kidding it’s atypical. I rarely have this problem. Most games are solvable on Day 1 (not that they are successfully solved, but there are avenues to achieve it). This game is only barely better than wild guessing.

Do you have similar troubles solving the game when you're Maf?

Essentially never. Bullshitting reads and chasing false suspects is very easy. Looking the part is very easy. Being typical is very easy.

[falcon45ca]

It's D2.

I find this mentality atypical of you

Well no kidding it’s atypical. I rarely have this problem. Most games are solvable on Day 1 (not that they are successfully solved, but there are avenues to achieve it). This game is only barely better than wild guessing.

Do you have similar troubles solving the game when you're Maf?

Essentially never. Bullshitting reads and chasing false suspects is very easy. Looking the part is very easy. Being typical is very easy.

You've got over 170 posts, and you're making it sound as tho you've not had suspects or reads

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I’ve had “reads”. They’re of low quality. I’ve been opem about that.

For example: you’ve just voted for LoRab. Does that vote gove you confidence? Do you believe in that vote?

[motobot]

@Simon @motobot @Abigail Sophia

I'd be interested to know what each of you thinks of Epignosis so far in this game.

All I have to say is I wouldn't be surprised if Epi was Mafia.