If Falcon was intentionally trying to start an argument, what does that make you think of him? Is he more Towny because he's trying to generate content? Or is it Wolfy to treat you as "prey"?Simon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:55 pmActually, what if it's possible that falcon has intentionally been trying to find something among the nothingness to start an Argument, and I just so happened to be the prey.Simon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:37 pmNot as much as others who have recently been interpreting this.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:56 pmLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:00 pmBy "demeaning", you mean "accusational", right?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:24 amS~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:33 amVote and hope based on what? Did you pick him at random?
I tend to be the person most sus of LC, and I pretty much always bad read him. So now i am up to him having 2 votes for Trivia.
Not liking this, gonna be honest. It feels kinda icky.
Just because you think someone may not be bad, doesn't exactly mean you also think they are town. Especially on a quiet Day One.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:05 pm
You did so once, and only after I brought up intuition...and predatory of Simon eh?
Why is Simon Town?
Like you, for instance. You feel sincere to me, I don't particularly think you're bad. But I haven't seem very much yet to point to and say, "Ah, Falcon is town", just a general attitude.
I will say that your vote for LC seems the most sincere to me of the three he has currently.
@Michelle why the Falcon vote? His slight aggro edge feels more like town Falc to me. Was it just a joke "no u" thing", since he had a vote on you at that point?
I have one errand to run about noonish, but otherwise I'll be in and out all day.
That's understandable, I get that. Differences in my mind are that LC did not say that, or anything, to answer my question, but framed it in somewhat demeaning light
I also had similar thoughts re: Simon, and then I realized that picking apart exactly what his definition of "a lot" is would be a little pedantic and bullying, and wouldn't likely bear any game-relevant fruit, so I chose not to do it. Why would you focus on something so nitpicky? What result did you imagine coming from it besides maybe Simon having less confidence in speaking his mind, for fear that it's going to be linguistically dissected and get him called out on whatever minor definitional discrepancy you decide to pounce on?Syn expressed he had similar thoughts re: Simon, and was intending to follow up as well
I'm trying to be as helpful as possible for you to understand where I'm coming from here, because I was less concise and more reactionary in my stance last night.
No, I think calling my question a "limp noodle" is somewhat demeaning
I asked Simon one question, and it seems as tho you are trying to make it sound as if it's my sole focus...the fact that you are now saying you also felt the way I did re: Simon's post is interesting, as your reaction to my question is quite different than Simon's, or Syns, or anybody...even tho you felt the same
Simon's answer to my question was fine, and made sense to me, as I've had the same experience. You're taking a lot of exception on his behalf... @Simon do you feel I was being pedantic, bullying, predatory, or have less confidence to speak your mind?
Does anyone else?
Let's just say that I've never been good with my choice of words. To the point where in this context, I felt as if one wrong word could change the course of someone's innocence. And when you asked me that "a lot" or "twice" question, it wasn't looking too good for me.
However that all supposedly changed when this one question also managed to spark a bit of discord among others. Even now, I still can't tell if a smart move or not.
I previously mentioned that my process of thought was that one little thing can change a lot on someone. It's not confirmed if I was specifically supposed to be a target, and it definitely is a stretch.
I don't know though, I'm just considering possible situations that would make sense to me.
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Doing a catch up---
Almost all of D1's on this site are big nothing-burgers.
What were you expecting from LC that you did not expect from yourself?
Then you "town" yourself. I didn't realize this was a thing for anyone besides falc.
Continuing on......
what made you keep your vote here? You only made to make the game exist but had zero questions for any other Wigly voters - just didn't *feel* like the Porscha I am used to.
Your posts to this point were absolutely NOTHING even for RVS. I find this vote eye brow arch-worthy. As you have been on the Syndicate long enough to know about D 1's and the approach to RVS on the site.
Almost all of D1's on this site are big nothing-burgers.
What were you expecting from LC that you did not expect from yourself?
Lime response here reads wonky to me. Timing bad? You still asked the question that the timing was bad forLime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:30 amI was gonna say "Hiii Porschaaaa"
And do the whole "How was ya dayyy?" bit like I did in the last game but timing is bad.
But yeah I'm actually town this game and I have 0 distractions or other games I'm paying attention to so I'll be able to fully play and not be shit.
Then you "town" yourself. I didn't realize this was a thing for anyone besides falc.
Continuing on......
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explain what exactly leetic tried that you basically town'ed him for it.
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I’m pegging Wilgy as third party and moving on for the time. I think based off the roles either third party would have some form of stop vote/can’t be voted off ability.
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I laughed at this, I found it -
This is fast esp for Michelle - what gives chick?
Looking for reactions much? obv is obv. Sorry.
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Simon looks to be within his Civ meta
Falcon seems good so far, but we should know by day 2 or 3
LC interaction regarding the Falcon/Simon debate was very weird I also wasn’t a fan of the vote low/no shows.
Roxy seems to be posting more than last game when she was mafia so that’s a good look.
I don’t like how many town read Lime has at this stage but that isn’t necessarily mafia.
Syn pinged me can’t recall why.
Falcon seems good so far, but we should know by day 2 or 3
LC interaction regarding the Falcon/Simon debate was very weird I also wasn’t a fan of the vote low/no shows.
Roxy seems to be posting more than last game when she was mafia so that’s a good look.
I don’t like how many town read Lime has at this stage but that isn’t necessarily mafia.
Syn pinged me can’t recall why.
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I’m pegging Wilgy as third party and moving on for the time. I think based off the roles either third party would have some form of stop vote/can’t be voted off ability.
seen this after my last post and wanted to say- on other sites I have played on the only Day save was for a godfather mafia type role. So I agree with sig 3rd party or mafia is likely.
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Simon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pmIf we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.
Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.
But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:20 pmAre they better or worse than nothing?Simon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pmIf we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.
Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.
But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.
You both simply asked questions - something we do in mafia to figure stuff out. Why is falcon predatory and not you?Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:01 pmI asked Tony what his intuition told him, and he gave a couple of answers to that. I took "a lot" to mean "general attitudes of which those things were an example".falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:30 pmSimon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pmIf we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.
Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.
But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.
By "a lot", do you mean the twice?
IIRC TonyPrime brought up the gamblers fallacy, and I brought up intuition...what other mentions of these terms did you see?
This soft interrogation of Simon looks both pointless and predatory. [VOTE: falcon] aubergine
Simon and Abagail are both young treading softly and softball questions are the right way to go imho.
LC's push of falcon here feels odd.
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so very pingy..... How many games have you and LC played together?
Came in to pad your post count but did not add ANYTHING of substance. Why are you giving them townleans?
sketchier than leetic's or Porscha's? I found all three problematic.S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:02 amHaving reread without reactions, this is the thing that sticks out the most to me. What did your gut tell you? Was it just random, was it becasue he had votes?
I think this is the sketchiest vote in the thread so far.
I am gonna drop a vote on [VOTE: motobot] aubergine for now. I am going to go back and reread him in the Hungry game, where he was bad, and see if he made this kind of vote there.
dammit I am feeling the same inre: SVS. Agreeing with her almost 100%.
who is willy?
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He voted someone. Like I said in a later post, the bar was low because next to nothing in the game was done at that point.
Now the game has gotten more developed but Leetic hasn't done anything since and now I don't have him in my towns anymore.
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Yes because iirc Motobots vote was the third. Abigail’s vote on Wilgy was even sketchier imo, but that vote hadn’t been made when I posted about motos vote.
Leetic was also sketchy but it wasn’t a pile on. “Random” or “vibe” pile ons always strike me as sus.
I thought Porschas was a joke at the time. Although in retrospect, TSPs “Willy is bad” “oh wait maybe not” “his posts are bad” “ maybe not” thing yet leaving his vote on Wilgy was also mega sketch.
Yes because iirc Motobots vote was the third. Abigail’s vote on Wilgy was even sketchier imo, but that vote hadn’t been made when I posted about motos vote.
Leetic was also sketchy but it wasn’t a pile on. “Random” or “vibe” pile ons always strike me as sus.
I thought Porschas was a joke at the time. Although in retrospect, TSPs “Willy is bad” “oh wait maybe not” “his posts are bad” “ maybe not” thing yet leaving his vote on Wilgy was also mega sketch.
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Well, that's kind of the answer to your question. I didn't think that putting Simon's feet over the flames to get right to the bottom of exactly how much "a lot" is,and just how Wolfy it makes him if we find out he is deceiving us about how many times "intuition" was said, was really "softball". And like I said, I thought it was odd as well when I read it, but Idecided it didn't matter and leeway was appropriate. Then falcon went the other way.
And I don't even really care about that any more. I was trying to get some things going on a very quiet Day 1, and falcon's thing irked me enough to use that. It is 100% true that asking questions and probing is good for Day 1, and falcon could easily be Town. Several people have felt he is acting like his Town self after that interaction with me, and if that's true then I'd be happy with those results.
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Is it obv tho? You may or may not be in the minority of people who got that. I've seen a couple of ""LC wants to yeet low posters" kind of talk out there.
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I don't understand the bolded but I think you questioned the read.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:05 pmI laughed at this, I found it -
This is fast esp for Michelle - what gives chick?
Looking for reactions much? obv is obv. Sorry.
When I have an impression especially early in the game I am always posting it and see what feedbacks I receive. Here I had 2 opinions telling that Wigly having funny posts is not AI, and that's a thing we can analise later depending on flips.
If your intention was different, please ask again
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Can you reformulate the coloured sentence?Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:44 pmSimon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pmIf we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.
Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.
But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:20 pmAre they better or worse than nothing?Simon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pmIf we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.
Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.
But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.You both simply asked questions - something we do in mafia to figure stuff out. Why is falcon predatory and not you?Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:01 pmI asked Tony what his intuition told him, and he gave a couple of answers to that. I took "a lot" to mean "general attitudes of which those things were an example".falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:30 pmSimon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pmIf we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.
Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.
But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.
By "a lot", do you mean the twice?
IIRC TonyPrime brought up the gamblers fallacy, and I brought up intuition...what other mentions of these terms did you see?
This soft interrogation of Simon looks both pointless and predatory. [VOTE: falcon] aubergine
Simon and Abagail are both young treading softly and softball questions are the right way to go imho.
LC's push of falcon here feels odd.
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No... it's not a scientific process, it was a conversational push.Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:06 pmIf the question was a reaction test, do you have a conclusion based on it?
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Also @Roxy re leetics vote, it was sus, yes, but it was also sloppy. He said LC had 2 posts, but when leetic voted he actually had 5. It's a small thing, but I just hosted bad leetic, and bad leetic is pretty careful. His vote felt more off the cuff for me, and "off the cuff" isn't a thing I associate with bad leetic.
It's not "OMG he's towncore" but it's enough for me to find his vote less sus than motos.
It's not "OMG he's towncore" but it's enough for me to find his vote less sus than motos.
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OOPS! Sorry Epi I saw it was locked just as I hit post
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YOU COULD SAY TODAY WAS NOT HIS DAY
Dr.Wilgy survived the automotive recklessness perpetrated by a gang of unruly youngsters.
He did not survive the head shot from the sniper camped out in a tree house.
He did not survive the head shot from the sniper camped out in a tree house.
DR.WILGY HAS BEEN KILLED.
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Can you clarify your point here? Do you mean that Epi is civ because he created the game to have open nights?
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it’s not so much a matter of “modern” rather the influence of mafia fora other than those for which this site developed (which had very little influence from those sitesMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:48 amInteresting, I didn't know.
I like the old school mafia but I started to play later when more 'modern' stuff were implemented in the games
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Why?sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:04 pm
I’m pegging Wilgy as third party and moving on for the time. I think based off the roles either third party would have some form of stop vote/can’t be voted off ability.
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can someone explain how "old school" mafia works please
we're not getting flips?
we're not getting flips?
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RIPIYWG Wigly!
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I'm fairly used to playing flipless, and it's pretty obvious that Wilgy was town anyway. Might want to look at his ISO.
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This post looks the worst for Brad, though I'm not sure Brad is the type to kill those who suspect him (though I've played three games with w!Brad, in two we were in opposite threads and the third he was in a hydra mainly driven by the other head). The other suspicions could be argued out of, so I'm not sure that those alone would be reason for a kill.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:54 pm SO we have 2 types of Wilgy voters.
Brad and TSP attempted to justify it when there wasn't really any justification needed. Porscha and Abigail Sophia didn't.
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Porscha I'll need to ISO for activity. The vote becomes worse the more attentive/opinionated Porscha has been this game.
Brad's kinda the worst of them? There was no iso to read on me, so the justification is crem. Even the sheeping of Porscha's vote which was described as just an RVS vote that didn't move is crem.
TSP I can see a town thinking 'well they aren't on my mind so wolf?' the backtracking checks out there from that perspective. I don't know if I expect W TSP to make up a reason to vote me when none is needed. In other words, is still crem, not as bad as Brad crem, SHOULD ISO for activity.
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Wilgy didn't really comment on anybody other than his voters, which means there is little we can really get from the flip (on Wilgy's end, at least). Perhaps wolves were concerned about Wilgy having a special ability since he didn't die yesterday, maybe they wanted a kill town would get little information from (though the latter interpretation is a bit questionable, as I believe most people have mentioned Wilgy by now?)
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There are a few ways this could have happened, for instance there could have been a governor, Wilgy could be deathproof, or there could be shenanigans with secret voting and tie mechanics. I'm not sure why a governor (besides Wilgy himself) would feel that Wilgy was particularly worth saving bassed on his D1, though.
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We should probably get things started here, so [VOTE:
Brad] aubergine. You can't go wrong with voting the main suspect of the guy that just got killed. His "I totally regret not switching my vote" thing also does not look good; why would you regret it if you didn't know Wilgy was town?
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dunno if this is pre-existing bias but this feels awfully convenientleetic wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:58 pm We should probably get things started here, so [VOTE: Brad] aubergine. You can't go wrong with voting the main suspect of the guy that just got killed. His "I totally regret not switching my vote" thing also does not look good; why would you regret it if you didn't know Wilgy was town?
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As does this. Actually want to engage with my viewpoints?Syn wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:20 pmdunno if this is pre-existing bias but this feels awfully convenientleetic wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:58 pm We should probably get things started here, so [VOTE: Brad] aubergine. You can't go wrong with voting the main suspect of the guy that just got killed. His "I totally regret not switching my vote" thing also does not look good; why would you regret it if you didn't know Wilgy was town?
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Re: The Avengers [Day 2]
Ended up being a useless yeet since it just cleared Wilgy...and really nothing else and the dude was just killed.leetic wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:58 pm We should probably get things started here, so [VOTE: Brad] aubergine. You can't go wrong with voting the main suspect of the guy that just got killed. His "I totally regret not switching my vote" thing also does not look good; why would you regret it if you didn't know Wilgy was town?
And no I wouldn't kill Wilgy he isn't that big of a threat to me.
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Re: The Avengers [Day 2]
Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.
There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.
There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.
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Re: The Avengers [Day 2]
And yeah kinda agreeing with Syn here that your vote on me is pretty convenient, especially since I've been pinging you and calling you out to do shit. Which your only thing to do is to look at the night kill, see one read that the dead guy was making, and vote that.
Like I've seen you be way more into games and actually interrogating people to do shit during games.
Where is that, here?
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Like I've seen you be way more into games and actually interrogating people to do shit during games.
Where is that, here?
@leetic
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Re: The Avengers [Day 2]
[VOTE:
Leetic] aubergine
Until you actually play the game like a normal player.
Until you actually play the game like a normal player.
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Re: The Avengers [Day 2]
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Re: The Avengers [Night 1]
When I voted, you and Long Con were tied. I didn't want my vote to not matter.
The only person I had any suspicions of was Moto (because he accused LC for seemingly no reason) I didn't want Long Con to be ejected just because of that
I don't know you very well but others were commenting on how you made "wolfy posts" I didn't see it myself but I decided to go with the crowd
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Re: The Avengers [Day 2]
I know you can do better than making a lame OMGUS. Where is that here?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:37 pm And yeah kinda agreeing with Syn here that your vote on me is pretty convenient, especially since I've been pinging you and calling you out to do shit. Which your only thing to do is to look at the night kill, see one read that the dead guy was making, and vote that.
Like I've seen you be way more into games and actually interrogating people to do shit during games.
Where is that, here?
@leetic
Also, am I the only one getting 500 errors from this site?
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Re: The Avengers [Night 1]
Well kinda need literally anything from you currently since a full day phase has gone by and there's enough content to dissect.
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Re: The Avengers [Day 2]
I started talking about you being suspicious first and pinged you to do shit.leetic wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:13 pmI know you can do better than making a lame OMGUS. Where is that here?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:37 pm And yeah kinda agreeing with Syn here that your vote on me is pretty convenient, especially since I've been pinging you and calling you out to do shit. Which your only thing to do is to look at the night kill, see one read that the dead guy was making, and vote that.
Like I've seen you be way more into games and actually interrogating people to do shit during games.
Where is that, here?
@leetic
Also, am I the only one getting 500 errors from this site?
You refused to do anything after that.
If anything you're the one with a lazy ass OMGUS.
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