[WOLF WIN] Leporidae Mafia

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Finally got through.

Meh.

Between either him or Roxy.

This is- I'm down by 3 TDs and I'm saying "fuck it, DJ Moore gotta be down there somewhere" on offense - levels of confidence.

I don't feel much like voting anyone else though.

You provided some rationale for Roxy in a follow-up, but not quite for DrWilgy. Why him?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I’m feeling pretty wiped, so I am going to take it easy with Mafia today. I’ll still poke around periodically so if y’all want my take on something just say the word.

Otherwise I’ll be quiet for a bit.

This just feels awkward. But I get it and have felt this way before Idk if I have ever seen *you* make this sort of statement.

It's not a typical sentiment of mine, no. Unfortunately someone on an airplane decided to give me a big helping of their germs.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Lime Coke can you clarify exactly who you town read and why? Just a couple words per will suffice.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Mainly because while I want to put stock into what Long Con's saying about the kill, it does mean I'm kinda out of my comfort zone when it comes to solving.

Because while the kill - with Long Con's take in mind - points towards Brad being mafia, I really dont think he is. I've played with him a bunch and know his tells fairly well. He feels like he's genuinely trying to solve this & that's something that often feels lacking when he's mafia beyond surface level townie posts

It's throwing me off a lot because considering the kill means throwing away what I know of Brad's approach to things and sticking with my own read means disregarding something that could hold a lot of truth to it. I'm just trying to find a way to strike a balance between the two and I'm struggling to do so

This is probably my premier sticking point with Lime Coke right now (highlighted). I'm not sure I see "solving" as much as saying names.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: delta] aubergine

I did this before I realized that Long Con was already parked there. Whoops. I don't want to create the illusion of a strong wagon in a game of this size and volume.

But I have a silly idea in my head that I want to pursue.

Are you game to expand on operation silly idea?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

just a silly idea

for a silly little guy

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: delta] aubergine

I did this before I realized that Long Con was already parked there. Whoops. I don't want to create the illusion of a strong wagon in a game of this size and volume.

But I have a silly idea in my head that I want to pursue.

Are you game to expand on operation silly idea?

I already did. G-man was mire likely to have been killed by a team that includes Delta or Lime Coke simply because they don’t have as much history with him.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: delta] aubergine

I did this before I realized that Long Con was already parked there. Whoops. I don't want to create the illusion of a strong wagon in a game of this size and volume.

But I have a silly idea in my head that I want to pursue.

Are you game to expand on operation silly idea?

I already did. G-man was mire likely to have been killed by a team that includes Delta or Lime Coke simply because they don’t have as much history with him.

Oh. I thought there was that and silly idea was extra

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Sloonei what's your present take on Lime Coke apart from G-Man things?

[Roxy]

vote lime

It's now or never for me as I must be in YaYa mode henceforth

I voted Lime bc that is where my hed is today. I know some think he is hunting but I've seen nothing of it. I mean I asked them to expand on why I'm bad bc of my wall posts and it turns out bc mine were the only ones they read so they couldn't give an opinion on JJJ or LC.
It stuck in my craw and now I must vote them.

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei what's your present take on Lime Coke apart from G-Man things?

I have not seen him say anything that screams “town” to me. I’ve seen too many posts where he laments his lack of involvement in the game, but not enough where he seems to be working to correct his own perceived problem.

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Finally got through.

Meh.

Between either him or Roxy.

This is- I'm down by 3 TDs and I'm saying "fuck it, DJ Moore gotta be down there somewhere" on offense - levels of confidence.

I don't feel much like voting anyone else though.

You provided some rationale for Roxy in a follow-up, but not quite for DrWilgy. Why him?

He's not towny...he's barely posting...but he's not towny.

@Lime Coke can you clarify exactly who you town read and why? Just a couple words per will suffice.

JJJ - Feeling solvey overall

Delta - Relatively the same as you and fighting from the bottom but isn't desperate enough to just take what's given to him, which is what I mean with the Long Con read from him.

Long Con - I'm believing in the "I won't kill G-Man" statements.

[Lime Coke]

Ah Roxy voted me...

[Lime Coke]

My legacy is kinda "Don't kill Delta" because...that might be needed here.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Still no votes from either of the blue people.

[Lime Coke]

Still no votes from either of the blue people.

You can always swap to one of them...particularly the one that Delta and I are voting.

[Lime Coke]

Actually, no wait, hold on.

*Takes a deep breath*

JIMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

YOU SHOULD'VE SEEN WHAT WILGY SAID ABOUT YOU THE OTHER DAY!

IT WAS REALLY REALLY MEAN!

I WOULD REPEAT IT, BUT THIS IS A PG WEBSITE, AND CHILDREN MIGHT LOOK AT IT AND BE INFLUENCED BY IT!

VOTE HIM NOW!!!!!!!!!!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@DrWilgy @fingersplints what gives

[Epignosis]

I dont really think it's Brad though and given the main focus for people likely to kill him are those with less experience with him, I'm kinda at a loss because I'm town & I think he is as well

What's your basis for that viewpoint?

[Epignosis]

Two consecutive posts, fifty minutes apart.

I think Sloonei's timing to push Falcon and now myself has felt odd, but would like to pick at his reasoning for pushing me a bit more at least. Just kinda looking at his shift to Falcon yesterday to bring them tied feels sketchy, doing so again today to make me killable when I had said yesterday I would likely vote him just feels weird

What is sketchy about my vote for Falcon?

As for voting you today: I simply think the G-man kill is more likely to have come from a mafia team that features at least one of you or Lime Coke. I put no stock in any pressure that you have directed my way when casting this vote.

I’m feeling pretty wiped, so I am going to take it easy with Mafia today. I’ll still poke around periodically so if y’all want my take on something just say the word.

Otherwise I’ll be quiet for a bit.

This just feels awkward. But I get it and have felt this way before Idk if I have ever seen *you* make this sort of statement.

If we operate under the assumption that G-man was not killed by an Old Syndicate Person, that leaves us with only Lime Coke and Delta. I feel like chances are slim (but not zero) that they’re both mafia.

So which old folk(s) are most likely to have murdered G-bun in cold blood?

Uh---any of us? C'mon! While unlikely any of us would do it, it is a lie to say none of us would *ever* do it. LC with his emotional plea would be the only one I would allow ANY leeway for other than that it could be anyone in this game.

I do want to put stock into what Long Con's saying about people being likely/unlikely to kill G-Man, I do think at the very least he's likely town from it because I cant see a partner pushing that kill through when he feels this strongly about it

I dont really think it's Brad though and given the main focus for people likely to kill him are those with less experience with him, I'm kinda at a loss because I'm town & I think he is as well

So it's a weird situation of 'where do I do from there'

What is happening Delta?
Why don't you think Lime aka brad is bad?
Why are you at a loss?
In every game I have played with I can't say I have ever seen you at a "loss" of any kind - def never a loss for words.
I would like to know your thought process for this vote - do you have a POE? Rainbow list? Or something else?

Mainly because while I want to put stock into what Long Con's saying about the kill, it does mean I'm kinda out of my comfort zone when it comes to solving.

Because while the kill - with Long Con's take in mind - points towards Brad being mafia, I really dont think he is. I've played with him a bunch and know his tells fairly well. He feels like he's genuinely trying to solve this & that's something that often feels lacking when he's mafia beyond surface level townie posts

It's throwing me off a lot because considering the kill means throwing away what I know of Brad's approach to things and sticking with my own read means disregarding something that could hold a lot of truth to it. I'm just trying to find a way to strike a balance between the two and I'm struggling to do so

Teammates. Got 'em.

[Sloonei]

I wouldn't put stock in it.

[Epignosis]

I think Sloonei's timing to push Falcon and now myself has felt odd, but would like to pick at his reasoning for pushing me a bit more at least. Just kinda looking at his shift to Falcon yesterday to bring them tied feels sketchy, doing so again today to make me killable when I had said yesterday I would likely vote him just feels weird

What is sketchy about my vote for Falcon?

As for voting you today: I simply think the G-man kill is more likely to have come from a mafia team that features at least one of you or Lime Coke. I put no stock in any pressure that you have directed my way when casting this vote.

The timing of it - Falcon was your counterwagon as is, so you coming in and slapping on a weak reason to push him felt like poorly masked self preservation

That happening again today with pushing me when I had said I would vote you feels like it's following a similar pattern to D1

Self-preservation was about 25% of my Falcon vote. I would rather he die than me, especially when I had a weak reason to want to vote for him in a game where I had no explicit reason to vote for most other people.

And, again, I do not register any pressure coming from you and feel absolutely no reason to be concerned about any suspicion you have expressed against me. I do not say that to be dismissive or disrespectful. But A) it has been very mild, so it's not something I've given much thought to. And B) you know me the least of everybody here. I have a certain Reputation among the old school Syndicate folks. I would expect most of the others in this game to form their own opinions of my play independent of your suspicion.

I really, really, really have a hard time believing this attitude comes from a civilian Sloonei.

[Sloonei]

I really, really, really have a hard time believing this attitude comes from a civilian Sloonei.

Why? People always suspect me early in games. Maybe the old Sloonei would have been vigilant about pursuing everything to its bitter end. But Present Day Sloonei sees somebody making noise about him, and he just shrugs. I'll just go about trying to solve the game and people can read me through those efforts.

Delta's assertion is that I am voting for him because I am scared of his pressure. That's a silly thing for me to be worried about.

[Lime Coke]

Okay might be on the road by the time deadline hits.

If I'm dead then...fair enough it's on me.

Delta town.

[Epignosis]

My legacy is kinda "Don't kill Delta" because...that might be needed here.

Help me out with this one. If you are good, my instinct is to go Delta next. Or Sloonei.

(I am not married to my vote today, mind you).

[Epignosis]

Or chaos surgeon Wilgy.

[Delta]

SHIT hi EOD slipped my mind

Please please please do not kill Brad lmao

@Epignosis I dont have any specific games on hand I could really reference but I've played with both town Brad and wolf Brad and I am pretty confident he's in his town meta. Out of this playerlist & maybe from people I've played with across sites he's one of the players I've had most experience with

He feels far more invested in this than he would a standard wolf game

[Lime Coke]

My legacy is kinda "Don't kill Delta" because...that might be needed here.

Help me out with this one. If you are good, my instinct is to go Delta next. Or Sloonei.

(I am not married to my vote today, mind you).

Definitely go Sloonei if it's between those two.

[Sloonei]

I can tie the vote and randomize it between Wilgy and Lime Coke. Or I could just vote for Lime Coke.

[Sloonei]

Why are Lime Coke and Delta so sure of each other right now?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

He feels far more invested in this than he would a standard wolf game

That's not the term I'd have used (invested)

[Lime Coke]

Look the way Delta has played entirely makes me think he's town.

From how he's solving.

To how he's fighting from the ground up but not taking the shortcuts on getting whoever is available and keeping his own mind to the game.

Overall think he's town.

[Delta]

My legacy is kinda "Don't kill Delta" because...that might be needed here.

Help me out with this one. If you are good, my instinct is to go Delta next. Or Sloonei.

(I am not married to my vote today, mind you).

This is exactly why I've felt like I've hit a wall with this because I know the conclusion that a newer player killed G-Man can only apply to at most Brad here

So if he dies and flips town, I'm just dying anyway and it's LYLO at that point

If you wont listen to him now at least put some stock into what he's said after he flips

[Sloonei]

Nobody in this game has done anything that should earn them a strong town read except for maybe Long Con. We have 481 posts and Day 2 ends in 10 minutes. It's been a game very bare of action. Nobody deserves a vehement defense.

[Lime Coke]

Why are Lime Coke and Delta so sure of each other right now?

Played a decent amount of games with each other.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

[Delta]

He feels far more invested in this than he would a standard wolf game

That's not the term I'd have used (invested)

Maybe not invested in the traditional sense but more that he cares for how he's reading people

As a wolf his posting feels far different to this

[Lime Coke]

Nobody in this game has done anything that should earn them a strong town read except for maybe Long Con. We have 481 posts and Day 2 ends in 10 minutes. It's been a game very bare of action. Nobody deserves a vehement defense.

Sir, I don't follow rules, I break them.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Nobody in this game has done anything that should earn them a strong town read except for maybe Long Con. We have 481 posts and Day 2 ends in 10 minutes. It's been a game very bare of action. Nobody deserves a vehement defense.

I may include Epi, but otherwise agreed

[Epignosis]

Nobody in this game has done anything that should earn them a strong town read except for maybe Long Con. We have 481 posts and Day 2 ends in 10 minutes. It's been a game very bare of action. Nobody deserves a vehement defense.

Sir, I don't follow rules, I break them.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm not sure skipping a vote deliberately is DrWilgy's style. But he's not a town read

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: lime coke] aubergine

[Delta]

Apologies I wasnt here sooner, in my mind EOD wasnt for another hour yet and it slipped from me completely ;;'

I think Long Con is still town & Epi can be town as of recent posting. Roxy feels like she's posting with good intent when it comes to reading me and trying to get a good grasp of my alignment. Feel good about those 3

I might be overly confident on Brad and making myself the worlds easiest pocket. I dont think I am though. His mannerisms feel very v!him.

[Epignosis]

I'm not sure skipping a vote deliberately is DrWilgy's style. But he's not a town read

What makes you sure it's deliberate?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm not sure skipping a vote deliberately is DrWilgy's style. But he's not a town read

What makes you sure it's deliberate?

I don't figure it is, that's what I mean.

[Sloonei]

I'm not sure skipping a vote deliberately is DrWilgy's style. But he's not a town read

What makes you sure it's deliberate?

It's not. I'm saying he should not be docked points for skipping because it was probably accidental.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Thanks, JJJ

[Sloonei]

We're heading for a coin flip.

[Sloonei]

Thanks, JJJ

certainly