The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 12)

#1801

Don't worry We'll get 'em next time.

#1802

Night 3: Are We Sure We're Not Actually In Chicago?

Another victim was dropped off at the Central City Police Station last night. Detectives were surprised to see a very vocal member of the community draped across the steps in front of the station. The dozen or so icicles that riddled DharmaHelper's body were beginning to melt in the morning sun, causing a bloody puddle to form around his corpse. It seemed that Captain Cold was sending another message.

Wally West had no time to wait for his newly resurrected friend to investigate. There were murderers and crooks out there who needed to be put away for what they've done. He raced across Central City, scouring every room of every building until he found Roxy. He grabbed her by her arm as she tried to flee, careful not to take off too fast and risk tearing her limb clean off. Hoisting her off the ground, Wally darted to Iron Heights and threw her in jail.

DharmaHelper has been murdered in...cold blood

Roxy has been carted off to prison by Wally West

It is now Day 4. You have 48 hours to vote!

#1803

Mister Rearranger wrote:
Night 4: Are We Sure We're Not Actually In Chicago?

Wasn't that Night 3?

DharmaHelper has been murdered in...cold blood

Night 1, Grodd and Wally West killed.

Night 2, it appeared that Captain Cold killed Epignosis.

Night 3 (4?), Captain Cold kills again, Grodd does not kill, and Wally West kills on schedule.

Golden Glider's role states that she cannot be killed by Old Rogues. That makes sense if Cold is killing. Two Civvie Ninjas? The Night 2 post (which I admit I hadn't analyzed until now) casts some doubt on the honourable intentions of the Old Rogues, which upon first read made me think someone was framing Captain Cold, but killing two nights in a row... plus Golden Glider's thing... I guess it really is Cold making these kills.

I can't fault Wally West's choice of killing Roxy, except now we can't prove she was bad.

#1804

It's Night 4 o clock somewhere... >.>

Aaanyway, here's what was sent to the PD's fax machine today:

"Still confused about whether or not you should trust Roxy? Don't worry. She should be dead by the time you receive this message."

#1805

Mister Rearranger wrote:It's Night 4 o clock somewhere... >.>

Aaanyway, here's what was sent to the PD's fax machine today:

"Still confused about whether or not you should trust Roxy? Don't worry. She should be dead by the time you receive this message."

Yikes, that's cold. Er, lowercase 'c'.

#1806

If you work out Capt. Cold's tildes I think you will see why he has been killing. I'm heading to bed but all I will say is that Roxy bamboozled me in map btsc and my inability to see her true nature cost us yesterday's Lynch and valuable time. I blame my misread on saving Aces and pushing his lynch to Daisy. In fact, he is very likely bad and my actions really hurt. More tomorrow.

#1807

Sophie wrote:okay, so bf was lynced and he was a civvie, that sucks.
aces/roxy, i need to reread that combo
there are a bunch of people mentioning timmer, and i thinks its worth it to reread him too
rabbit, as in every game it seems, just comes and says he suspects LC. But in this one he doesnt add anything at all almost, like i said before, he doesnt seem usual rabbit or maybe he is, but somethings off, imo.
roxy seemed weird, theres something that doesnt sit right with me when i read her posts, aces seems civvier than roxy in appearence, but their whole defense is just odd, gonna reread
the whole bf lynch was too fast and votes piling up with almost no reason, also worth noticing

i reckon im very behind but im willing to catchup and comment on everything and try to help

now gotta go eat and then sleep, but tomorrow morning ill be back

Have we considered that maybe they found each other as baddies and Roxy used the "map BTSC" as a way to vouch for each other? I just found it odd that Roxy mentioned Aces without a name as a suspect and went straight into trusting him in a manner of hours.

#1808

timmer wrote:If you work out Capt. Cold's tildes I think you will see why he has been killing. I'm heading to bed but all I will say is that Roxy bamboozled me in map btsc and my inability to see her true nature cost us yesterday's Lynch and valuable time. I blame my misread on saving Aces and pushing his lynch to Daisy. In fact, he is very likely bad and my actions really hurt. More tomorrow.

Interesting. I worked out Cold's tildes, and I think that maybe it wouldn't be bad if they were public knowledge... it certainly reveals some information that I think needs to be known.

I don't want to blurt it though, I'm hoping to get some feedback on the notion. I actually just thought of a more complex reason why it should stay secret, like a baddie could make a mistake and get caught due to ignorance, or something.

I don't exactly know what to think of Roxy bamboozling you in map BTSC, what you think her "true nature" is, and anything else you're saying regarding Aces... but the gist seems to be that you think he's bad, and that jives with what I'm thinking. And BR as well, it seems.

#1809

Sorry folks. Even though I can talk normally now, I am going to be incredibly busy all week, but I will attempt to stay caught up with things here.

In the meantime, I will vote timmer. I think he is a worthy target.

#1810

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sorry folks. Even though I can talk normally now, I am going to be incredibly busy all week, but I will attempt to stay caught up with things here.

In the meantime, I will vote timmer. I think he is a worthy target.

Do.... do you mean the REAL Timmer?

#1811

Are fail kills shown in the post?

#1812

I will say that based on what BF told me, I believe him to have checked Timmer on Night 2. So it is unlikely that Timmer is CC or Heat Wave. And LC, I see your point, but the role list says the Old Rogues are the closest thing to a civvie option. So

#1813

Thank you Monkey Grodd for sparing my life. Perhaps I was too hard on you.

#1814

Long Con wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sorry folks. Even though I can talk normally now, I am going to be incredibly busy all week, but I will attempt to stay caught up with things here.

In the meantime, I will vote timmer. I think he is a worthy target.
Do.... do you mean the REAL Timmer?

Yes indeed. Sorry I have nothing to back it up but a gut feeling.

thellama73 wrote:Thank you Monkey Grodd for sparing my life. Perhaps I was too hard on you.

#1815

I feel a little better about LC today. I want to lynch Bullz.

#1816

Spacedaisy wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Hello All! I'm excited to try and get back into the games! I'll do my best to keep my participation and general helpfulness up

Can anyone give me a brief, unbiased summary of the suspicions thus far? At least, as unbiased as humanly possible at this point. Lol.
I'm going to try and read up on how the whole map thing works, along with the rest of the game mechanics.
DEVIN! It's so good to have you back!

It feels good to be back!!

#1817

Thank you for the input, everyone. I'm still not entirely sure which way to go on this vote.
Having a sure way to tell who is bad that only you know about seems very... convenient. Though I must admit, Bullz has my attention there.

And did I miss a post, or did Bass just vote for Timmer without posting anything. Maybe he's silenced...

#1818

And MovingPictures shall be replacing reywaS! Welcome to him!

#1819

Do powers go through the night someone dies? Specifically, if Roxy silenced herself, and Bass is silenced now... could it still have been Roxy that did it?

Bullz has also voted, I think without posting. So he could also be silenced.

#1820

Why would Bullz self-vote? Unless he was cursed.

Welcome MP, nice to see you again!

As for Bass 2.0 voting for timmer as well without saying anything, I don't know what to make of it.

#1821

Oh, and Hi Devin. Welcome. I don't think I got the chance to properly say it before.

#1822

Long Con wrote:Do powers go through the night someone dies? Specifically, if Roxy silenced herself, and Bass is silenced now... could it still have been Roxy that did it?

Yes. Because there are some powers in this game that have the potential to overlap in...odd ways, the only things that will take precidence are one secret ability and Blocks, regardless of when they are sent in.

So killing a silencer will not stop that night's silence, or killing a killer will not stop their kill, etc...

#1823

Hi Metalmarsh! Thank you.

I can definitely see Bass 2.0 being silenced. But Bullz said that he would be voting for himself the previous day/night. So he may not actually be silenced. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if he posts anything later in the day.

#1824

Welcome MP! You just couldn't resist a game with me, could you?

#1825

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why would Bullz self-vote? Unless he was cursed.

He said he was going to. He's tired of the suspicion and wants to die publicly. Or something like that.

#1826

Nobody said RIP DH.

#1827

DharmaHelper wrote:Nobody said RIP DH.

Sorry DH.

#1828

Bye, k? :P

Does anyone believe that rabbit was cursed yesterday? That means there are multiple cursing roles, including the fact the one of them was probably already lynched.

Or was rabbit being sarcastic?

#1829

I thought rabbit said he was cursed on Day 2 - that's when he was coming after BF. Didn't he say "You guys lynched BF when I was cursed to suspect him"?

#1830

I guess I misunderstood him then.

But we lynched blindfaeth on Day 3. I'll have to see if I can find the poll somewhere, because it doesn't appear to be posted.

Ben Linus · #1831

Long Con wrote:I thought rabbit said he was cursed on Day 2 - that's when he was coming after BF. Didn't he say "You guys lynched BF when I was cursed to suspect him"?

This is correct.

#1832

Fuck this sock shit TBH. I don't pay attention. LOL.

#1833

Well, if Malchus says so, then it must be so!

#1834

Long Con wrote:
I don't exactly know what to think of Roxy bamboozling you in map BTSC, what you think her "true nature" is, and anything else you're saying regarding Aces... but the gist seems to be that you think he's bad, and that jives with what I'm thinking. And BR as well, it seems.

When Day 3 had its weird reset, Roxy and I ended up in btsc together. She insinuated that she was an Old Rogue and that she had contact with Glider, and thus when I suggested certain things about MY role to her (we weren't outing ourselves, but speaking in certain generalities that I think we both understood, etc.) she said flat out "you know I'll know if you're lying pretty quick, then, right?" The point is, that entire day I kept telling her that I had no idea who to vote for, and she knew SPECIFICALLY that I was going back and forth between DH and BF, and she never said ANYTHING about not voting BF, or tried to push me away from such an idea.

Then we both traveled in sync last night but she never came into btsc before day started. I left a long thing in btsc asking "wtf roxy?" but she never came in.

All in all, I think Roxy was bad. I think I sat there and suggested certain things to her carefully, I think she just soaked it up. I feel like an idiot.

So yeah, I think that we had a baddie nailed to the wall the other day in Aces, and I think, like an idiot, I helped save his ass.

#1835

LOL Rabbit, I've goofed too but I got mods to delete the post quick!

#1836

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why would Bullz self-vote? Unless he was cursed.

Welcome MP, nice to see you again!

As for Bass 2.0 voting for timmer as well without saying anything, I don't know what to make of it.

Have you been reading his posts? He's not interested in doing anything but feeling sorry for himself because I and BF and Rabbit suspect him.. It's literally three people. I can't understand why he is so upset over it.

#1837

Oh, and the other thing is Bass 2.0.

Bass specifically, unequivocally, vouched for Roxy in the thread during the Aces/Roxy lynch. And once I got BTSC with Roxy, she fully supported that lynch and suggested very heavily that SHE was Capt. Cold. She mentioned how she thought Epig was bad and "look at who killed him" "you don't get it, do you?" And "think about why Bass would vouch for me".

The two of them set that up. And if you look back through my posts, you'll see that that Bass 2.0 vouch is right where I started wavering on Roxy.

So I've got Bass 2.0 and Aces as two people i will be voting for until they are dead.

#1838

Bass 2.0 has also quasi-vouched for S~V~S:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I will not be voting SVS today I don't see the case on her.

I had noticed that and his Roxy vouching as well.

#1839

And they are both after me. Yeah, I see this.

#1840

timmer wrote:So I've got Bass 2.0 and Aces as two people i will be voting for until they are dead.

Of course, Bass, if silenced, cannot defend himself today. PLUS this is coming out after he already cast a vote for you.

Just two things that are relevant to the general situation you're putting forth here.

Linki: yeah

#1841

BF vouched for me, too.

I am voting Timmer.

#1842

RIP DH.
So does the fact we didn't get a baddie NK mean we killed Grodd or blocked him? I just went to read the results of the night before (night 2) and it seems as though Captain Cold killed Epig, and we didn't get a kill from Plunder who's supposed to kill on even nights. What the hell does that mean? Was it an absent player?
I feel like the dumb person who doesn't get anything that's going on.

Why are people voting for TImmer?
Timmer, why does Roxy vouching for Aces necessarily makes him bad, even if she was? Couldn't it be that she was trying to look good to him just as you claim she was to you? Maybe she thought it will take her farther? I'm not saying that's the case, but I'm not seeing your explanation as set in stone.

The Bass theory seems stronger, though. I think he vouched for her in his previous version as well as in this version

linki: What people said

#1843

thellama73 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why would Bullz self-vote? Unless he was cursed.

Welcome MP, nice to see you again!

As for Bass 2.0 voting for timmer as well without saying anything, I don't know what to make of it.
Have you been reading his posts? He's not interested in doing anything but feeling sorry for himself because I and BF and Rabbit suspect him.. It's literally three people. I can't understand why he is so upset over it.

He did the same in the Keller.

#1844

What was his role alignment in Keller? Assuming that was another mafia game.

#1845

Devin the Omniscient wrote:What was his role alignment in Keller? Assuming that was another mafia game.

#1846

rabbit8 wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:What was his role alignment in Keller? Assuming that was another mafia game.

#1847

Devin the Omniscient wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:What was his role alignment in Keller? Assuming that was another mafia game.

I think he is bad in this game. If I refer to another game I would think he was _____ in that game.

Fill in the blank.

#1848

FZ. wrote:RIP DH.
So does the fact we didn't get a baddie NK mean we killed Grodd or blocked him? I just went to read the results of the night before (night 2) and it seems as though Captain Cold killed Epig, and we didn't get a kill from Plunder who's supposed to kill on even nights. What the hell does that mean? Was it an absent player?
I feel like the dumb person who doesn't get anything that's going on.

Why are people voting for TImmer?
Timmer, why does Roxy vouching for Aces necessarily makes him bad, even if she was? Couldn't it be that she was trying to look good to him just as you claim she was to you? Maybe she thought it will take her farther? I'm not saying that's the case, but I'm not seeing your explanation as set in stone.

The Bass theory seems stronger, though. I think he vouched for her in his previous version as well as in this version

linki: What people said

FZ, Bass 2.0 is rock solid baddie. That vouch was huge, and Roxy referred to it as one of the reasons why I should realize that she and Bass are Old Rogues. So yes absolutely, Bass 2.0 needs to go first.

#1849

S~V~S wrote:I will say that based on what BF told me, I believe him to have checked Timmer on Night 2. So it is unlikely that Timmer is CC or Heat Wave. And LC, I see your point, but the role list says the Old Rogues are the closest thing to a civvie option. So

By the way, I need to point out here the mirroring of this logic to Epig's on Day 0/1. Epig also assumed that I/Eloh am not CC or Heat Wave. I don't believe there are many left, but you do realize that there are other Old Rogues, right? If BF hadn't made contact with the Captain yet, then he could have checked a different Old Rogue and not known it. Right? The logic that "not Capt. Cold" = "not an Old Rogue" is VERY shaky.

#1850

FZ. wrote:RIP DH.
So does the fact we didn't get a baddie NK mean we killed Grodd or blocked him? I just went to read the results of the night before (night 2) and it seems as though Captain Cold killed Epig, and we didn't get a kill from Plunder who's supposed to kill on even nights. What the hell does that mean? Was it an absent player?
I feel like the dumb person who doesn't get anything that's going on.

Why are people voting for TImmer?
Timmer, why does Roxy vouching for Aces necessarily makes him bad, even if she was? Couldn't it be that she was trying to look good to him just as you claim she was to you? Maybe she thought it will take her farther? I'm not saying that's the case, but I'm not seeing your explanation as set in stone.

The Bass theory seems stronger, though. I think he vouched for her in his previous version as well as in this version

linki: What people said

I feel like a dumb player as well. In fact I had to go back and read things to understand what DH was talking about.

My view on the whole vouching thing was the way Roxy approached it in the thread. It seemed like she was leading up to a vote but keeping important info out. Then all of a sudden she was convinced Aces was good. If I'm remembering correctly I do believe Aces was a lynch subject and the lynch could have swayed that way. I believe they hid behind the map BTSC to cover up their baddie BTSC. The way she led into it flipped peoples opinions of Aces. It would be a grand scheme that Roxy is capable of.

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