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Never mind, I misunderstood your message Rico.
Error #543 for me this game.
Error #543 for me this game.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Did you have me pegged before you had to clean up one of my messes?MovingPictures07 wrote:Hello, Ricochet.Belshazzar wrote:I'm not posting who I was yet. You all have three guesses.
I had most of the players pegged by Day 2.
I'm so terrible with socks. Especially that bit where Lot voted in Omerta mafia! lol, whoops!
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Lol - I've been reading back on the post game and - to think how much you hated it when I was calling you out for leading lynches, eg on Cain, back in those early days. I really did try hard to get you lynched back then.thellama73 wrote:I personally led lynches on five of them.
I'm disappointed I was one of your ten on day one. I was trying to drop back my profile early. Clearly I just can't drop it back enough.
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Hey Golden did you see? Yet another game where we did not make it past Day 1 together. :P
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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So you were going for banks, right?MovingPictures07 wrote:I based Paul on one player from each of those
Because I have to say, what I thought was exactly that 'someone is imitating banks'. It did not read genuinely to me at all. The moment I knew I was right was when Stephen morphed from Paul into someone who was actually playing a bit more.
You are the only one of the horseman who I never for a second thought was horseman (although I never thought Belsh was until he flipped, I thought he was heathen for a long time).
@MM - I know. By the way, I just beat your Flash record for how long one of us can stay alive
And I actually won a game on TS where I didn't die along the way
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Jacob is all cleared btw
Man I really miss the Piano too. Good times those were.
As I haven't played very many games on this site I am not familiar with some of the regulars here -- though I think I may have played with Golden before on RM way back maybe???
Man I really miss the Piano too. Good times those were.
As I haven't played very many games on this site I am not familiar with some of the regulars here -- though I think I may have played with Golden before on RM way back maybe???
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I was trying to attract it to you too, by sounding like my vote was open.Spacedaisy wrote:Also, I was trying to attract the nk last night because I did not feel I deserved the win as much as some other players. looks like it worked, lol.
It wasn't. It was always going to Rahab. When I did the analysis the day before I figured it had to be Rahab/Esther, it was the only thing that made sense. BUT, with the death of Lazarus, I wanted to sound unsure enough to survive lol.
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This, absolutely this.MovingPictures07 wrote:I told myself I'd much rather win seldom but truly deserve it than win more often just because I develop a low participant or nonthreatening meta.
You're one of the most promising mafia newbies I've ever seen and I'd hate to see your playstyle degenerate just to ensure your own meta or survival.
You can definitely win without compromising your meta, but I agree with MP that seeing your team win in part because of your own effort is better than winning without any effort anyway.
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You know, if you had have done this it's quite possible I would not have figured you out. I have a blind spot when it comes to people saving me. But... I really did trust Pilate, so it may just have been that I would have lynched you and Rahab the other way around.Elohcin wrote:It was fun. I think everyone alive in the end played very well. I think my biggest mistake was not voting Deborah. But I thought it I threw the last vote on Deborah, it would look like a baddie throwing in the towel on her life.MovingPictures07 wrote:
Definitely. Elo and Blooper, you both played an excellent endgame.
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It certainly would have made for an interesting end game.
Eloh - is this the first game I've ever expressed actual trust in you for most of a game?
Eloh - is this the first game I've ever expressed actual trust in you for most of a game?
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At the time it happened, I thought you were silenced Cain. Part of why I was defending Cain hard was that I thought being lynched while silenced is exactly the kind of thing that would happen to SVS. It's also where I began to think Absalom was war, and certainly didn't have our best interests at heart.S~V~S wrote:That was frustrating; I was totally not lying about being silenced, but was acutely aware of how it could be construed that way. As it was, apparently.
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And having wrapped that all up...
Thanks, Epi, for what was yet another epic game (this time, literally). I really enjoyed it. I got a buddy, I got a contest right up my street, and I got to survive. It's like my ultimate combo. I wish more people had been louder, but it certainly made for easier endgame analysis that they weren't And frankly, there were times when the sedate pace of this game kept me sane while I was desperately trying to thread the needle in Economics. I'm pleased to have played so many Epi games already, long may it continue.
The last time I played a sock game was my first ever game on Rev Mafia, and it was the first time I ever really played a good civ game and I died for it, but felt awesome at how much I had contributed. I'm sure I'll forget people who contributed but honestly llama, g-man, rico, devin, nutella, FZ, bf, juliet, MP and Dom all are people I felt really contributed to me (and the civs) being able to win this game. I'm glad a handful of them got to share in it. But ultimately I got to win for the sole reason that llama felt fit to set Lazarus and I against each other and any of the rest of you might have been here instead, so I hope you drink in the glory of the win. Thank you to all of you - and to our heathen team - for making it such a fun game. I enjoyed every moment of it.
You have no idea how many times I wanted to say 'I'm still playing biblical mafia' in economics. The workload is full on. I really need to do my best to stick to one game at a time. But hey, normally I'm just not alive for that long.
I think it's kind of ironic that I wanted to make a three-letter sock alliance with job on day one (and nearly tried to)... and then he turned out to be blindfaeth, my bud. If only I had known...
I'll remember this game fondly for being the game where I survived 15 days. I can assure you this will never happen to the de-socked golden in all the rest of my mafia days.
Thanks, Epi, for what was yet another epic game (this time, literally). I really enjoyed it. I got a buddy, I got a contest right up my street, and I got to survive. It's like my ultimate combo. I wish more people had been louder, but it certainly made for easier endgame analysis that they weren't And frankly, there were times when the sedate pace of this game kept me sane while I was desperately trying to thread the needle in Economics. I'm pleased to have played so many Epi games already, long may it continue.
The last time I played a sock game was my first ever game on Rev Mafia, and it was the first time I ever really played a good civ game and I died for it, but felt awesome at how much I had contributed. I'm sure I'll forget people who contributed but honestly llama, g-man, rico, devin, nutella, FZ, bf, juliet, MP and Dom all are people I felt really contributed to me (and the civs) being able to win this game. I'm glad a handful of them got to share in it. But ultimately I got to win for the sole reason that llama felt fit to set Lazarus and I against each other and any of the rest of you might have been here instead, so I hope you drink in the glory of the win. Thank you to all of you - and to our heathen team - for making it such a fun game. I enjoyed every moment of it.
You have no idea how many times I wanted to say 'I'm still playing biblical mafia' in economics. The workload is full on. I really need to do my best to stick to one game at a time. But hey, normally I'm just not alive for that long.
I think it's kind of ironic that I wanted to make a three-letter sock alliance with job on day one (and nearly tried to)... and then he turned out to be blindfaeth, my bud. If only I had known...
I'll remember this game fondly for being the game where I survived 15 days. I can assure you this will never happen to the de-socked golden in all the rest of my mafia days.
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Sooooo:
1. Here is, again, my list of projections for the identities behind the socks. I kept doing it until I got lynched or so. I just threw in every hunch for every player, as soon I had a signal, that's why there are multiple guesses in front of most. Amusing that a few player I assumed would join this game never did (BWT, Boo, Made, Enrique, Mongoose, Unfurl, Zeek).
I probably should have written down a few reasons for my hunches as well (other than the obvious slips or trademarks), because I don't remember said reasons anymore now: mostly related to their gameplay (writing style, read style, use of emoticons, etc.), though.
Not quite MP-level, but 11 good picks out of 33 ain't too shabby either.
2. Instead of my "Death-Note method" of transcribing each players' activity, I did a generic table this time with each players' read on everyone else. I'm not too happy with the method, however, because it didn't help much to rely just on that - case in point, having to go back on Day 8 and do those massive re-reads on everybody alive (which I also saved in writing at that time, below each table). Here's just a sample.
3. Here's some even crazier and pointless stuff, though. Whilst the game was in sign-ups, I started keeping track of players' activity in the forum (whether visible or hidden, when logged in), in hopes that their sockplay would then either match or completely contrast. The darker the color, the more frequent the respective player (or sock) was present in that particular hour. Of course, it didn't lead to anything and I didn't keep track of the sock activity for much time, after the game started, in order not to lose all the sanity I had left. Some players really do have patterns of activity, though.
I never counted the fact that XthGamer, Leggy, Heiots or DREAM might join, so that's why they only show up in the *newbies* row.
4. Usual theory tidbits on role and sock identities. Decent enough.
5. Votes walkthrough (as far as I'm aware off i.e. not aware of other vote manipulation).
1. Here is, again, my list of projections for the identities behind the socks. I kept doing it until I got lynched or so. I just threw in every hunch for every player, as soon I had a signal, that's why there are multiple guesses in front of most. Amusing that a few player I assumed would join this game never did (BWT, Boo, Made, Enrique, Mongoose, Unfurl, Zeek).
I probably should have written down a few reasons for my hunches as well (other than the obvious slips or trademarks), because I don't remember said reasons anymore now: mostly related to their gameplay (writing style, read style, use of emoticons, etc.), though.
Not quite MP-level, but 11 good picks out of 33 ain't too shabby either.
2. Instead of my "Death-Note method" of transcribing each players' activity, I did a generic table this time with each players' read on everyone else. I'm not too happy with the method, however, because it didn't help much to rely just on that - case in point, having to go back on Day 8 and do those massive re-reads on everybody alive (which I also saved in writing at that time, below each table). Here's just a sample.
3. Here's some even crazier and pointless stuff, though. Whilst the game was in sign-ups, I started keeping track of players' activity in the forum (whether visible or hidden, when logged in), in hopes that their sockplay would then either match or completely contrast. The darker the color, the more frequent the respective player (or sock) was present in that particular hour. Of course, it didn't lead to anything and I didn't keep track of the sock activity for much time, after the game started, in order not to lose all the sanity I had left. Some players really do have patterns of activity, though.
I never counted the fact that XthGamer, Leggy, Heiots or DREAM might join, so that's why they only show up in the *newbies* row.
4. Usual theory tidbits on role and sock identities. Decent enough.
5. Votes walkthrough (as far as I'm aware off i.e. not aware of other vote manipulation).
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And finally
6. The game spreadsheet. Updated according to how much I know, of course.
As for what I still don't know (and will likely remained unanswered):
a) Which players did Famine target to post only once and when. (I should actually check back in the thread, because I think players like Rachel and Lot hinted at it). Also, I assume he silenced me, Ruth and Paul on Day 2, but I could be wrong.
b) Which players did War place in a "feud" relationship and when (besides me vs. Paul and Lot vs. Lazarus - though I think the latter was Moses' doing).
c) Uggh. I guess it's way too much to ask Conquest how did he create and modified his factions, so I won't even try.
d) Which players did Uzziah incapacitate and when. (good luck squeezing that info out of him )
e) Which players did Pharaoh force and when. (but Xth already said he won't tell )
f) If Ruth emasculated succesfully any prophets. Who did she target, otherwise, and when.
g) Which players did Deborah block and when.
h) Which dead players did Esther check and when.
i) When did Rahab join the Heathens and who did she check to join them.
j) If Cain checked any aligments on Night 1.
k) If Paul ever inquired the Host on a player alignment ahead of voting Day 2.
l) If Mary Magdalene offered someone amnesty from the poll on Day 2. I forgot who that player was.
m) If Hagar ever checked any players' identity.
n) Fat chance, but whether Malchus ever guessed a future lynch correctly and got/used any power boost.
o) If Chapter VII night kill failed because of Lazarus using his protection.
p) When and which players did Moses target with: Lice, Flies, Pestilence, Hail and Darkness. I hope I got it right on which nights he used his other powers, otherwise.
I understand Noah 1.0/2.0 never saved anyone from the floods, which makes it really interesting that the victims were always low players, much like Balaam used to pray to happen.
6. The game spreadsheet. Updated according to how much I know, of course.
As for what I still don't know (and will likely remained unanswered):
a) Which players did Famine target to post only once and when. (I should actually check back in the thread, because I think players like Rachel and Lot hinted at it). Also, I assume he silenced me, Ruth and Paul on Day 2, but I could be wrong.
b) Which players did War place in a "feud" relationship and when (besides me vs. Paul and Lot vs. Lazarus - though I think the latter was Moses' doing).
c) Uggh. I guess it's way too much to ask Conquest how did he create and modified his factions, so I won't even try.
d) Which players did Uzziah incapacitate and when. (good luck squeezing that info out of him )
e) Which players did Pharaoh force and when. (but Xth already said he won't tell )
f) If Ruth emasculated succesfully any prophets. Who did she target, otherwise, and when.
g) Which players did Deborah block and when.
h) Which dead players did Esther check and when.
i) When did Rahab join the Heathens and who did she check to join them.
j) If Cain checked any aligments on Night 1.
k) If Paul ever inquired the Host on a player alignment ahead of voting Day 2.
l) If Mary Magdalene offered someone amnesty from the poll on Day 2. I forgot who that player was.
m) If Hagar ever checked any players' identity.
n) Fat chance, but whether Malchus ever guessed a future lynch correctly and got/used any power boost.
o) If Chapter VII night kill failed because of Lazarus using his protection.
p) When and which players did Moses target with: Lice, Flies, Pestilence, Hail and Darkness. I hope I got it right on which nights he used his other powers, otherwise.
I understand Noah 1.0/2.0 never saved anyone from the floods, which makes it really interesting that the victims were always low players, much like Balaam used to pray to happen.
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Oh, also, can I get a gender check on Heiots, DREAM, leggyorlyb, Boogs? Good thing this was a sock game and I didn't get to out myself by screwing up genders.
Also, Marco and XthGamer are blokes, right?
Also, Marco and XthGamer are blokes, right?
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Quadruple post for final thoughts (for now, lol):
Thanks Epig for the game and congrats for it as well. You're still my favourite religious person who actually knows his stuff and you ran a smooth and intricate game, with slick host posts. Poker face BTS conversations too - certainly different from chatting like mad with MP back in Death Note. :P
I liked my assigned sock and role very much. My sock name really had a cool, exotic ring to it. I still don't know if Epig intentionally connected such dots, but Belshazzar also happens to be an opera by Handel (and a BOC song, as far as I understand, but I don't listen to them), so it fits my RL profile, too. As for Death, I guess I'm growing comfortable with FEB or Indy win-grab roles. I haven't been too cheerful in RL these months either, so I was comfy with such a role. I was also watching a full philosophical Yale course on Death (available on YouTube) during March/April, around the time the game started, so this role tag was quite the coincidence.
I'm in a position in which I can congratulate both the civvies and the Heathens for their game, because they both contributed to a tight duel. The Heathens really mixed it up, from Uzziah laughing in our face to Ruth's distancing and Esther & Rahab flying low and playing it subtle. But the civs, alongside a few other horsemen, also had some top notch hunting days. By the time three Heathens were down in a rather short amount of days, I was really starting to sweat, because my death count was only at the halfway point. That's why I was compelled to write my last words in such fashion. I was still probably the luckiest of the Horsemen to achieve his win condition, overall. I still want to stress that I didn't pull any shenanigans with my lynch votes, despite my role allowing total indifference to who gets stones, and that I simply was a bad lyncher - but this will, of course, only constitute WIFOM in future games where I'll screw up just as bad, heh.
I won't elaborate further on how inactive/coattail players and role hinters acted, but I could certainly do with a lot less of that. I'm equally aware, however, that each new game will be a reboot for many, in which either new situations or the impulse to do the same stuff again will resurface. One thing I'm happier with, actually, is having givenmore cred this time to hinters such as Jacob, instead of never believing them and hunting them relentlessly, only to feel real bad afterwards (like it was with FZ. in Death Note or Canuck in Film...omg where is Canuck btw??).
Thanks Epig for the game and congrats for it as well. You're still my favourite religious person who actually knows his stuff and you ran a smooth and intricate game, with slick host posts. Poker face BTS conversations too - certainly different from chatting like mad with MP back in Death Note. :P
I liked my assigned sock and role very much. My sock name really had a cool, exotic ring to it. I still don't know if Epig intentionally connected such dots, but Belshazzar also happens to be an opera by Handel (and a BOC song, as far as I understand, but I don't listen to them), so it fits my RL profile, too. As for Death, I guess I'm growing comfortable with FEB or Indy win-grab roles. I haven't been too cheerful in RL these months either, so I was comfy with such a role. I was also watching a full philosophical Yale course on Death (available on YouTube) during March/April, around the time the game started, so this role tag was quite the coincidence.
I'm in a position in which I can congratulate both the civvies and the Heathens for their game, because they both contributed to a tight duel. The Heathens really mixed it up, from Uzziah laughing in our face to Ruth's distancing and Esther & Rahab flying low and playing it subtle. But the civs, alongside a few other horsemen, also had some top notch hunting days. By the time three Heathens were down in a rather short amount of days, I was really starting to sweat, because my death count was only at the halfway point. That's why I was compelled to write my last words in such fashion. I was still probably the luckiest of the Horsemen to achieve his win condition, overall. I still want to stress that I didn't pull any shenanigans with my lynch votes, despite my role allowing total indifference to who gets stones, and that I simply was a bad lyncher - but this will, of course, only constitute WIFOM in future games where I'll screw up just as bad, heh.
I won't elaborate further on how inactive/coattail players and role hinters acted, but I could certainly do with a lot less of that. I'm equally aware, however, that each new game will be a reboot for many, in which either new situations or the impulse to do the same stuff again will resurface. One thing I'm happier with, actually, is having givenmore cred this time to hinters such as Jacob, instead of never believing them and hunting them relentlessly, only to feel real bad afterwards (like it was with FZ. in Death Note or Canuck in Film...omg where is Canuck btw??).
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I did indeed. I had checked Absalom and they came back as HorsemanRicochet wrote:
j) If Cain checked any aligments on Night 1.
I figured it is why I was silenced and so rudely lynched :P
Ricochet wrote:Oh, also, can I get a gender check on Heiots, DREAM, leggyorlyb, boogs? Good thing this was a sock game and I didn't get to out myself by screwing up genders.
Also, Marco and XthGamer are blokes, right?
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Thanks. They came back, though? Did you mean Absalom and somebody else or just him?Roxy wrote:I did indeed. I had checked Absalom and they came back as HorsemanRicochet wrote:
j) If Cain checked any aligments on Night 1.
I figured it is why I was silenced and so rudely lynched :P
Ricochet wrote:Oh, also, can I get a gender check on Heiots, DREAM, leggyorlyb, boogs? Good thing this was a sock game and I didn't get to out myself by screwing up genders.
Also, Marco and XthGamer are blokes, right?
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Ricochet wrote:Thanks. They came back, though? Did you mean Absalom and somebody else or just him?Roxy wrote:I did indeed. I had checked Absalom and they came back as HorsemanRicochet wrote:
j) If Cain checked any aligments on Night 1.
I figured it is why I was silenced and so rudely lynched :P
Ricochet wrote:Oh, also, can I get a gender check on Heiots, DREAM, leggyorlyb, boogs? Good thing this was a sock game and I didn't get to out myself by screwing up genders.
Also, Marco and XthGamer are blokes, right?
No I meant I checked Absalom and the result was Horseman - I could not check anyone else bc I was dead.
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Also, Marco and XthGamer are blokes, right?
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Tbh, I didn't care that I was lynched early because I was very busy IRL at the time, and was involved in at least 2 other games (it may even have been 3).Golden wrote:This, absolutely this.MovingPictures07 wrote:I told myself I'd much rather win seldom but truly deserve it than win more often just because I develop a low participant or nonthreatening meta.
You're one of the most promising mafia newbies I've ever seen and I'd hate to see your playstyle degenerate just to ensure your own meta or survival.
You can definitely win without compromising your meta, but I agree with MP that seeing your team win in part because of your own effort is better than winning without any effort anyway.
On the other hand, if there's one thing I've learned from playing an Epignosis-hosted game, it's that you can die Day 1 and still have a legitimate chance of winning. I didn't take advantage of those oppurtunities in Game of Champions or Roger Rabbit when I was dead, but I think I did here.
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Rico, I got recruited night 2 when I searched Uzziah I thought, "Surely he isn't ACTUALLY bad with that behavior!"
Never ignoring what behavior screams in my face, ever again.
Never ignoring what behavior screams in my face, ever again.
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The ones I can tell you off the top of my head:
f) No
h) Almost all of them
i) Uzziah. Night 2 I think?
j) Cain learned that Absalom was a horseman. She got silenced and then lynched, so she never got to use this info. Roxy was not a happy camper.
l) Mary M. did take someone off the poll early on, but I forget who it was.
m) Once.
n) Malchus predicted that Cain would be lynched. He was right. He got a curse of choice to use anytime, but he never did.
o) Yes.
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I sent you my Night actions every time.
As I've written down on the spreadsheet, my targets were:
Night 1 - Samson (afterwards, believing it was my doing that he became my teamie, heh)
Night 2 - Martha
Night 3 - Cain
Night 4 - Gideon
Night 7 - Uzziah
Night 8 - Ruth
and bang!
As I've written down on the spreadsheet, my targets were:
Night 1 - Samson (afterwards, believing it was my doing that he became my teamie, heh)
Night 2 - Martha
Night 3 - Cain
Night 4 - Gideon
Night 7 - Uzziah
Night 8 - Ruth
and bang!
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After Night 1, I only had to care about your target when you kicked the farm.
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A departure from my usual style... and it got me the win! Who woulda thunk it?Jacob wrote:Wow okay turns out the only ones I had right were Dom/Rachel (easy ) and Niju/Rahab.
LC was Pilate?!?!?!? Whaaaat
No sacrificing of Pilate!MovingPictures07 wrote:Contrary to my list, I actually did go after Pilate, even though he was stuck in my winning faction at that point (even though I was going to swap him the same Night I could no longer move names), because at that point I knew I seemed super civilian to everyone, and with Deborah's flip, I felt the civilians deserved to win more so than everyone else. I figured I could still pull off a win, if I was lucky, even if I sacrificed Pilate, so I viewed it as a necessary sacrifice, since the importance of helping the civilians win this game was nearly as much as winning the game for my own sake at that point.
Yeah, I decided to take my chance as a near-inactive this game, and it actually got me through. I still can't believe it!Ricochet wrote:I don't want this to sound too serious hat mode, but I'm still seriously considering playing a future game as borderline inactive, considering how bad I got burned being so active (yet wrong about stuff), whilst others fared much better and did so little.
Hey, that's me, Pilate! I was Moses! Tell me more!Epignosis wrote:You didn't get Samson because he was your first target. There was another mechanic in play for that: Moses.Ricochet wrote:And I don't think Epig explained it, but Samson became my "Angel of Death" after he died and he became my first target. He shared my win condition and was allowed to vote, but not post on-topic. He refrained to vote for a while, because all the lynches were straightforward, but the day Isaac and Mordecai got close, we stood by and, under my command, he made it a tie. Unfortunately, that completely backfired on us and got my killed afterwards.
And MM totally outed himself in the BTSC by signing as "MM89-Phone", right after Epig specifically sent us PMs in which he told us NOT to out ourselves.
MM's tale as Samson is so ironic, I can't even. Signed up as sock, still gets killed D1. Gets stuck with me in BTSC, like old mafia chums. Depends his win on me entirely. I lurked in the chat and jumped in his place during the Second Trivia Game, without warning. He gets the win after all, even though he lost D1. Epic.
....still catching up on the Postgame. More comments to come from Pilate, the Inactive Wonder-Winner!
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Thanks for the win LC!
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Yeah, you were one of the first three or so people I pegged, right from the very beginning. Took one look and said, 'Yep, that's definitely Golden!'Golden wrote:Did you have me pegged before you had to clean up one of my messes?MovingPictures07 wrote:Hello, Ricochet.Belshazzar wrote:I'm not posting who I was yet. You all have three guesses.
I had most of the players pegged by Day 2.
I'm so terrible with socks. Especially that bit where Lot voted in Omerta mafia! lol, whoops!
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Was I?Golden wrote:So you were going for banks, right?MovingPictures07 wrote:I based Paul on one player from each of those
Because I have to say, what I thought was exactly that 'someone is imitating banks'. It did not read genuinely to me at all. The moment I knew I was right was when Stephen morphed from Paul into someone who was actually playing a bit more.
You are the only one of the horseman who I never for a second thought was horseman (although I never thought Belsh was until he flipped, I thought he was heathen for a long time).
@MM - I know. By the way, I just beat your Flash record for how long one of us can stay alive
And I actually won a game on TS where I didn't die along the way
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I was hoping at least someone who followed the Champs game would get a laugh out of at least one of my posts.
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As always, Rico, I love your postgame spreadsheet reveal. It's awesome to get a glimpse of what goes on in your head in these games. I also love knowing there are people as crazy as me out there who think about the mafia games they are in CONSTANTLY.Ricochet wrote:Sooooo:
1. Here is, again, my list of projections for the identities behind the socks. I kept doing it until I got lynched or so. I just threw in every hunch for every player, as soon I had a signal, that's why there are multiple guesses in front of most. Amusing that a few player I assumed would join this game never did (BWT, Boo, Made, Enrique, Mongoose, Unfurl, Zeek).
I probably should have written down a few reasons for my hunches as well (other than the obvious slips or trademarks), because I don't remember said reasons anymore now: mostly related to their gameplay (writing style, read style, use of emoticons, etc.), though.
Not quite MP-level, but 11 good picks out of 33 ain't too shabby either.
2. Instead of my "Death-Note method" of transcribing each players' activity, I did a generic table this time with each players' read on everyone else. I'm not too happy with the method, however, because it didn't help much to rely just on that - case in point, having to go back on Day 8 and do those massive re-reads on everybody alive (which I also saved in writing at that time, below each table). Here's just a sample.
3. Here's some even crazier and pointless stuff, though. Whilst the game was in sign-ups, I started keeping track of players' activity in the forum (whether visible or hidden, when logged in), in hopes that their sockplay would then either match or completely contrast. The darker the color, the more frequent the respective player (or sock) was present in that particular hour. Of course, it didn't lead to anything and I didn't keep track of the sock activity for much time, after the game started, in order not to lose all the sanity I had left. Some players really do have patterns of activity, though.
I never counted the fact that XthGamer, Leggy, Heiots or DREAM might join, so that's why they only show up in the *newbies* row.
4. Usual theory tidbits on role and sock identities. Decent enough.
5. Votes walkthrough (as far as I'm aware off i.e. not aware of other vote manipulation).
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I can actually get you this, at least for the time I had Conquest. Just give me a little while though. I didn't keep a spreadsheet this game, so I'd have to dig through my PMs, but I'd be willing to PM you my various submissions.Ricochet wrote:And finally
6. The game spreadsheet. Updated according to how much I know, of course.
c) Uggh. I guess it's way too much to ask Conquest how did he create and modified his factions, so I won't even try.
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Your flippity-flop between suspecting Rachel and Absalom and then suddenly not was the pinnacle of taking the piss.Long Con wrote:Yeah, I decided to take my chance as a near-inactive this game, and it actually got me through. I still can't believe it!Ricochet wrote:I don't want this to sound too serious hat mode, but I'm still seriously considering playing a future game as borderline inactive, considering how bad I got burned being so active (yet wrong about stuff), whilst others fared much better and did so little.
Your endgame reminded me of Film Directors where we almost had you for lynch instead of the last baddie (...from the other baddie team that wasn't us ), nicely done and great win.
Looking forward to you revealing perhaps which nights did you use your curses and on which players (for those that involved direct targeting, instead of Horses shenanigans).
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Sign-ups were while I was still in holiday in Cali. That would have completely wrecked any chance you had of gaming my forum patterns from just sign ups! Lol.Ricochet wrote:3. Here's some even crazier and pointless stuff, though. Whilst the game was in sign-ups, I started keeping track of players' activity in the forum (whether visible or hidden, when logged in), in hopes that their sockplay would then either match or completely contrast. The darker the color, the more frequent the respective player (or sock) was present in that particular hour. Of course, it didn't lead to anything and I didn't keep track of the sock activity for much time, after the game started, in order not to lose all the sanity I had left. Some players really do have patterns of activity, though.
I had great difficulty both staying away from the thread and the Chatzy at times Americans shouldn't be awake. That was my one and only attempt to obfuscate my identity.
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That can be bad, though, in case I become predictable to read in future games.MovingPictures07 wrote:
As always, Rico, I love your postgame spreadsheet reveal. It's awesome to get a glimpse of what goes on in your head in these games. I also love knowing there are people as crazy as me out there who think about the mafia games they are in CONSTANTLY.
That's be sweet, although I'm not sure how I'm gonna stuff it in the spreadsheet.MovingPictures07 wrote:I can actually get you this, at least for the time I had Conquest. Just give me a little while though. I didn't keep a spreadsheet this game, so I'd have to dig through my PMs, but I'd be willing to PM you my various submissions.Ricochet wrote:And finally
6. The game spreadsheet. Updated according to how much I know, of course.
c) Uggh. I guess it's way too much to ask Conquest how did he create and modified his factions, so I won't even try.
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I know, none of the real player vs sock player timeline match profoundly. But I still get to keep this pattern, in case something will be more revealing in future games.Golden wrote:Sign-ups were while I was still in holiday in Cali. That would have completely wrecked any chance you had of gaming my forum patterns from just sign ups! Lol.Ricochet wrote:3. Here's some even crazier and pointless stuff, though. Whilst the game was in sign-ups, I started keeping track of players' activity in the forum (whether visible or hidden, when logged in), in hopes that their sockplay would then either match or completely contrast. The darker the color, the more frequent the respective player (or sock) was present in that particular hour. Of course, it didn't lead to anything and I didn't keep track of the sock activity for much time, after the game started, in order not to lose all the sanity I had left. Some players really do have patterns of activity, though.
I had great difficulty both staying away from the thread and the Chatzy at times Americans shouldn't be awake. That was my one and only attempt to obfuscate my identity.
I only abstained from posting during mornings (when americans are asleep, except for SVS waking up early) and had hard times staying awake until 5am, simply because the polls got so late. And then got freaking stuck that way, because of constant Heathen lynches and Joshua invalidating the nights arrrghhh!!!
During the early stages, I would literally only post in the evenings (afternoons in America), to blend in with the others. Later on, when things got heated, I couldn't resist and started posting earlier (faking an 8-9am morning activity over in USA), too.
FZ, for instance, didn't (or couldn't) fake her usual timeline, so it was easy to detect her.
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Rico, you seem to also need to know that I'm male.
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@Rico, I don't have the info anymore of who Deborah was blocking each night. Quite frankly, I kind of just picked someone at random each night, because very few civs seemed to have big powers, and I had no concept of which roles people were, so I just kind of submitted whatever name seemed big but who we weren't killing that night.
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Noted.Golden wrote:Rico, you seem to also need to know that I'm male.
Before anyone else notices, I actually sort of did screw blindfaeth's gender in the spreadsheet that's uploaded, but I already corrected it in my PC version.
My next sock should be called Genderblooper.
That's ok, no problem.timmer wrote:@Rico, I don't have the info anymore of who Deborah was blocking each night. Quite frankly, I kind of just picked someone at random each night, because very few civs seemed to have big powers, and I had no concept of which roles people were, so I just kind of submitted whatever name seemed big but who we weren't killing that night.
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Wow!Moses
The leader of the Exodus will inflict someone with a plague. *Secrets*
Moses will choose a plague to inflict on someone. The plagues are: Blood, Frogs, Lice, Flies, Pestilence, Boils, Locusts, Hail, Darkness, Death of the Firstborn.
Blood: The river has turned to blood. [War]*
Frogs: The target must mention a famous frog in each post.
Lice: Anyone who votes for the target will take a vote.
Flies: The target will be harassed by flies and off the poll.
Pestilence: Disease has desolated the population, even the fighting men. [Conquest]**
Boils: The target is in so much pain, he may only utter complaints.
Locusts: The crops and fields have been ravaged. [Famine]***
Hail: The targeted will be blocked.
Darkness: This is darkness that can be felt. The Heathens lose BTSC for one phase.
Death of the Firstborn: Mourning and wailing fill the land. [Death]****
*[If Moses chooses Blood, War can force two people to vote one another in perpetuity until one of them is dead. The survivor, the next Day, may only post using words that have been used in dead red.]
**[If Moses chooses Pestilence, Conquest will be able to substitute a dead name on his faction with a living name from another.
***[If Moses chooses Locusts, Famine can silence the Heathen with the most posts.]
****[If Moses chooses the Death of the Firstborn, Death gains permanent BTSC with the first dead person. This person is still dead, but can cast a vote. This person cannot cast a vote if Death dies.]
I was just relying on your good instincts to trust my words and not vote for me in the end.Golden wrote:You know, if you had have done this it's quite possible I would not have figured you out. I have a blind spot when it comes to people saving me. But... I really did trust Pilate, so it may just have been that I would have lynched you and Rahab the other way around.Elohcin wrote:It was fun. I think everyone alive in the end played very well. I think my biggest mistake was not voting Deborah. But I thought it I threw the last vote on Deborah, it would look like a baddie throwing in the towel on her life.MovingPictures07 wrote:
Definitely. Elo and Blooper, you both played an excellent endgame.
Ha ha, I can't believe some of the things I was responsible for! I love it!Metalmarsh89 wrote:Thanks for the win LC!
My entire game was... I just couldn't get my mind around it in the beginning, and then there was so much to catch up on when I was getting deeper and deeper into the Flash game. So, I went with the low posting, skim-read-catchup the whole game. My suspicons were just gut and post-analysis. Vompatti's ploy was too easy, I was really happy to finally have something legit to say.Ricochet wrote:Your flippity-flop between suspecting Rachel and Absalom and then suddenly not was the pinnacle of taking the piss.Long Con wrote:Yeah, I decided to take my chance as a near-inactive this game, and it actually got me through. I still can't believe it!Ricochet wrote:I don't want this to sound too serious hat mode, but I'm still seriously considering playing a future game as borderline inactive, considering how bad I got burned being so active (yet wrong about stuff), whilst others fared much better and did so little.
I will reveal them soon! Gotta go through my PMs and compile.Your endgame reminded me of Film Directors where we almost had you for lynch instead of the last baddie (...from the other baddie team that wasn't us ), nicely done and great win.
Looking forward to you revealing perhaps which nights did you use your curses and on which players (for those that involved direct targeting, instead of Horses shenanigans).
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I was put in a feud with Mordecai. But I was not told I was force voted which is why I didn't understand why others seem to have been. Epi, can you explain this mechanic?
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Who were you in the game? I might remember why you got fucked up.Roxy wrote:Who silenced me?
Who killed me?
Why?
Who was Absalom?
Absalom was War IIRC
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Starting what day, Daisy?Spacedaisy wrote:I was put in a feud with Mordecai. But I was not told I was force voted which is why I didn't understand why others seem to have been. Epi, can you explain this mechanic?
What do you mean by force voted, though?
Lol, weren't you lynched?Roxy wrote:Who silenced me?
Who killed me?
Why?
Who was Absalom?
Silencing: Nicodemus did? On D2, when he silenced three people at once? At least that's my assumption.
Absalom was Llama aka War.
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Thanks rico - yep I was lynched - that was a test - you barely passed btw
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Lol that was my favorite decision of the whole game. Can't forget that one.Roxy wrote:I was cain.
Because you were almost lynched for your low activity on day 1, I wagered that if you just didnt show up again on day 2, the civs would surely lynch you for it since they almost did once. I had Uzziah silence you, and then civs took care of the rest. I was astounded that play went over so well.
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Ah, so Uzziah incapacitated Cain on Day 2.
I actually got that mixed with Nicodemus silencing me, Ruth, Paul.
Wait, Vompatti actually listened to you?
I actually got that mixed with Nicodemus silencing me, Ruth, Paul.
Wait, Vompatti actually listened to you?