Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)

[Marmot]

Any time Epi gets into it with someone who isn't me, I have a good time.

Is Kirbnosis drinking beer right now?

[DharmaHelper]

Any time Epi gets into it with someone who isn't me, I have a good time.

Is Kirbnosis drinking beer right now?

In the words of a wise ass man, signs point to yes.

[Golden]

I voted for epi.

[DharmaHelper]

I should point out, I'm reading this thread entirely out of context right now, and I may be suffering from wisdom teeth pain.

[Marmot]

Any time Epi gets into it with someone who isn't me, I have a good time.

Is Kirbnosis drinking beer right now?

In the words of a wise ass man, signs point to yes.

Golden claims to have a pact with this wise ass man.

I will not vote for DharmaHelper today.

Linki:

[LoRab]

Can we make semantic salmon a color? How about WIFOM wine? We can make colors for all of the things!!

linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.

I did not suspect you at all until this. It's as if you are saying--last time I had back and forth I was good, therefore, duh, I'm good. It doesn't work that way. And, claiming good seems disingenuous, unless you're role claiming, since 28 out of 36 players are neutral, and only 4 players are civ--I don't think you're actually claiming one of those roles. But I do think you might be one of the foul four.

Especially with the: anyone that suspects me must be eevul.

[DharmaHelper]

Foul Four?

[Marmot]

Can we make semantic salmon a color? How about WIFOM wine? We can make colors for all of the things!!

linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.

I did not suspect you at all until this. It's as if you are saying--last time I had back and forth I was good, therefore, duh, I'm good. It doesn't work that way. And, claiming good seems disingenuous, unless you're role claiming, since 28 out of 36 players are neutral, and only 4 players are civ--I don't think you're actually claiming one of those roles. But I do think you might be one of the foul four.

Especially with the: anyone that suspects me must be eevul.

I will not vote for LoRab today.

[DharmaHelper]

Can we make semantic salmon a color? How about WIFOM wine? We can make colors for all of the things!!

linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.

I did not suspect you at all until this. It's as if you are saying--last time I had back and forth I was good, therefore, duh, I'm good. It doesn't work that way. And, claiming good seems disingenuous, unless you're role claiming, since 28 out of 36 players are neutral, and only 4 players are civ--I don't think you're actually claiming one of those roles. But I do think you might be one of the foul four.

Especially with the: anyone that suspects me must be eevul.

I will not vote for LoRab today.

Well in fairness the poll doesn't close today.

[Golden]

Can we make semantic salmon a color? How about WIFOM wine? We can make colors for all of the things!!

linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.

I did not suspect you at all until this. It's as if you are saying--last time I had back and forth I was good, therefore, duh, I'm good. It doesn't work that way. And, claiming good seems disingenuous, unless you're role claiming, since 28 out of 36 players are neutral, and only 4 players are civ--I don't think you're actually claiming one of those roles. But I do think you might be one of the foul four.

Especially with the: anyone that suspects me must be eevul.

Lorab, I just don't give a shit at some point.

I want epi dead and god help me if I fall into a kill thats where I'm using it.

I don't like people who use lies to suspect me. I'm fine with those who will suspect me based on truthful interpretations.

I gave epi lots of chances to read back and see that he was wrong about his own factual statements. He wilfully chose to ignore them. He still claims his version of events is true. Anyone is free to read and see that what I have said is objectively true and what he has said is objectively, patently, false. I just don't think anyone should have to put up with constantly defending themselves against made up bullshit.

[Golden]

MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?

[DharmaHelper]

Can we make semantic salmon a color? How about WIFOM wine? We can make colors for all of the things!!

linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.

I did not suspect you at all until this. It's as if you are saying--last time I had back and forth I was good, therefore, duh, I'm good. It doesn't work that way. And, claiming good seems disingenuous, unless you're role claiming, since 28 out of 36 players are neutral, and only 4 players are civ--I don't think you're actually claiming one of those roles. But I do think you might be one of the foul four.

Especially with the: anyone that suspects me must be eevul.

Lorab, I just don't give a shit at some point.

I want epi dead and god help me if I fall into a kill thats where I'm using it.

I don't like people who use lies to suspect me. I'm fine with those who will suspect me based on truthful interpretations.

I gave epi lots of chances to read back and see that he was wrong about his own factual statements. He wilfully chose to ignore them. He still claims his version of events is true. Anyone is free to read and see that what I have said is objectively true and what he has said is objectively, patently, false. I just don't think anyone should have to put up with constantly defending themselves against made up bullshit.

Welcome to literally every game I've played in the last six months.

[S~V~S]

OMG

[Draconus]

If I was a recruiter, I would self-recruit every night.

Why do you all love being so... transparent.

Are you only going to vote for a transparent person?

Now there's a thought. I will not be voting for S~V~S today.

I've already ruled MP out though.

Oh great, now I have to open a separate sheet for the players you intend not to vote.

What did SVS say about Day 1's being clusterfucks again?

Right? It is quite literally impossible for me to catch up at this point. So I'm going to try my best just to stay current and relevant.

[Golden]

Well, DH, I have a simple solution.

[birdwithteeth11]

MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?

How do you know that?

[Epignosis]

linki @epi - ok. I'm not responding to you any more. I do not agree that you are shooting straight. It takes a special kind of cajones to have a lie as the fundamental basis of your accusation and call it shooting straight.

I will not be responding to any more of your posts until you acknowledge that you actually understand that 1) SVS never asked why I would recruit and 2) that is not the question I was answering.

Then you won't be responding to any more of my posts. I don't give a damn about S~V~S not asking you for reasons, and I don't give a damn about the question you were answering.

It's how you answered. That's all.

linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.

Gambler's fallacy (last time this happened...).

I know I'm wrong, do I? Tell me how I know that.

Oops. You aren't talking to me.

Hey rey, ask Golden how he knows I'm wrong!

Like a cute little sitcom. Where's Bob Saget and Dave Coulier when you need them?

[Golden]

I tend to judge people as individuals not as reputations. My best game of all time was Rabbits SOT, I was a ... civvie. We had a large civ BTS group, and we worked pretty well together. That team has been my gold standard of what a team should be. Not so much for the individuals (although they all were awesome and people in the Mafia community that I <3 maybe a bit more than most) but for the way we worked together. I would want cohesion more than anything, really. Team players, no Prima Donnas.

What was your theory?

That a good choice for a first lynch might be someone who has a reputation for surviving deep and not getting caught when bad, since a baddie might try to recruit someone that gave them the best shot at winning. Someone like DF or DP, for example, who frequently fly under the radar. Or someone like Typhoony or llama who can often survive deep on their wily skills by not being too civvish to NK nor too baddie-looking to get lynched.

But if I look at my own psyche, I'd probably just pick people who I felt I could have fun with too. Or that I really wanted to have btsc with because I hadn't yet, or something.

Read this. Golden asked someone about recruitment. That someone was S~V~S.

For me, S~V~S gave a straightforward, believable, and satisfactory answer to the question.

Then she asked Golden the same question.

I'll color it above. That's four different criteria. Why is Golden seeking advice for this? What is his purpose? Couldn't Golden use his own knowledge to determine the best recruits?

But why, when asked for his view on recruitment, did he name four different possibilities instead of being direct?

That is what I find suspicious about Golden.

I'm sorry, you don't give a damn about what question was asked? Then why was it the ENTIRE BACKBONE OF YOUR CASE!

[reywaS]

@rey - exactly. That's why I find it very hard to see BWT as coming from a genuine place. I am, however, very familiar with being a popular day one target for suspicion from baddies, they love to find semantic ways of getting votes on to me.

linki @epi - ok. I'm not responding to you any more. I do not agree that you are shooting straight. It takes a special kind of cajones to have a lie as the fundamental basis of your accusation and call it shooting straight.

I will not be responding to any more of your posts until you acknowledge that you actually understand that 1) SVS never asked why I would recruit and 2) that is not the question I was answering.

linki 2 BWT - ok, that I can kind of read as genuine and understand.

linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.

I have had many run ins with you in the past. You read as civvie Golden that I remember. BWT, Epig I'm on the fence. I have been away from mafia for almost a year now, so there's that.

[DharmaHelper]

I'm unnaturally proud of myself right now. I'm eating a granola bar from NatureBox, and I've correctly identified this piece of dried fruit in my mouth as being an apricot. Good day.

[Marmot]

MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?

How do you know that?

I see reasons to vote for Golden, but I'll let things play out. I also have a reason not to vote for him.

[reywaS]

Can we make semantic salmon a color? How about WIFOM wine? We can make colors for all of the things!!

linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.

I did not suspect you at all until this. It's as if you are saying--last time I had back and forth I was good, therefore, duh, I'm good. It doesn't work that way. And, claiming good seems disingenuous, unless you're role claiming, since 28 out of 36 players are neutral, and only 4 players are civ--I don't think you're actually claiming one of those roles. But I do think you might be one of the foul four.

Especially with the: anyone that suspects me must be eevul.

I will not vote for LoRab today.

Is this shtick?

[DharmaHelper]

Yep, definitely apricot.

[S~V~S]

Dried mangoes are very apricot-y. They lose some of the sour when dried.

[Marmot]

Can we make semantic salmon a color? How about WIFOM wine? We can make colors for all of the things!!

linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.

I did not suspect you at all until this. It's as if you are saying--last time I had back and forth I was good, therefore, duh, I'm good. It doesn't work that way. And, claiming good seems disingenuous, unless you're role claiming, since 28 out of 36 players are neutral, and only 4 players are civ--I don't think you're actually claiming one of those roles. But I do think you might be one of the foul four.

Especially with the: anyone that suspects me must be eevul.

I will not vote for LoRab today.

Is this shtick?

I'm just gonna bang on the drum all day with it if you know what I mean.

Linki: I had a chocolate-covered mango today. It was quite delicious.

[DharmaHelper]

Dried mangoes are very apricot-y. They lose some of the sour when dried.

The leathery/fuzzy back gave it away.

[birdwithteeth11]

MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?

How do you know that?

I see reasons to vote for Golden, but I'll let things play out. I also have a reason not to vote for him.

I thought I had something on Golden, but apparently not. And I feel like I've seen him get cornered and thrash about like this (and voted for him), then had him get lynched and flip civ. So I'm trying to be cautious with Golden.

I guess right now I'm unsure on him one way or the other. But if I had to vote right now, he would not get my vote.

[Marmot]

Dried mangoes are very apricot-y. They lose some of the sour when dried.

The leathery/fuzzy back gave it away.

Why in the world would you eat a fuzzy granola bar? Sounds like mold to me.

[DharmaHelper]

Having read zero percent of the goings on, I will say the thing that prevents me from voting for Golden right now is my absolutely reaming him in Watchmen mafia.

Linky - The fruit had fuzz, like a peach or an apricot.

[Marmot]

MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?

How do you know that?

I see reasons to vote for Golden, but I'll let things play out. I also have a reason not to vote for him.

I thought I had something on Golden, but apparently not. And I feel like I've seen him get cornered and thrash about like this (and voted for him), then had him get lynched and flip civ. So I'm trying to be cautious with Golden.

I guess right now I'm unsure on him one way or the other. But if I had to vote right now, he would not get my vote.

He falls on my list of "players that is trying really hard and deserves to make it past Day 1". That said, I will not vote for Golden today.

Linki: I do like bars that have the raw fruits like that in it. It sounds delicious right now, that or beer.

[Epignosis]

That a good choice for a first lynch might be someone who has a reputation for surviving deep and not getting caught when bad, since a baddie might try to recruit someone that gave them the best shot at winning. Someone like DF or DP, for example, who frequently fly under the radar. Or someone like Typhoony or llama who can often survive deep on their wily skills by not being too civvish to NK nor too baddie-looking to get lynched.

But if I look at my own psyche, I'd probably just pick people who I felt I could have fun with too. Or that I really wanted to have btsc with because I hadn't yet, or something.

I'm sorry, you don't give a damn about what question was asked? Then why was it the ENTIRE BACKBONE OF YOUR CASE!

No sir. This is the entire backbone of my case. It's not about what you asked, or S~V~S, or any of that. It's not about questions. It's that green and brown colored shit up there.

People can poo-poo it if they like. I think you are a recruiter based on THAT right there alone.

[LoRab]

Foul Four?

There are currently 4 baddies. I wanted alliteration.

Can we make semantic salmon a color? How about WIFOM wine? We can make colors for all of the things!!

linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.

I did not suspect you at all until this. It's as if you are saying--last time I had back and forth I was good, therefore, duh, I'm good. It doesn't work that way. And, claiming good seems disingenuous, unless you're role claiming, since 28 out of 36 players are neutral, and only 4 players are civ--I don't think you're actually claiming one of those roles. But I do think you might be one of the foul four.

Especially with the: anyone that suspects me must be eevul.

I will not vote for LoRab today.

Woot!!

@Goldent: I get your frustration, but I recommend stepping away from the game and sleeping on it. Epig is being epig, and trying to rile you up to figure you out. Which is a legit strategy. And lies are part of the game. You're frustrated, I realize. But breathe and remember it's a game. I mean, I still suspect you a bit, but want you to remember it's a game.

[DharmaHelper]

MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?

How do you know that?

I see reasons to vote for Golden, but I'll let things play out. I also have a reason not to vote for him.

I thought I had something on Golden, but apparently not. And I feel like I've seen him get cornered and thrash about like this (and voted for him), then had him get lynched and flip civ. So I'm trying to be cautious with Golden.

I guess right now I'm unsure on him one way or the other. But if I had to vote right now, he would not get my vote.

He falls on my list of "players that is trying really hard and deserves to make it past Day 1". That said, I will not vote for Golden today.

Linki: I do like bars that have the raw fruits like that in it. It sounds delicious right now, that or beer.

Also had pineapple, coconut, and dates.

[Epignosis]

No I'm not. I already figured him out. Why are you speaking for me?

[Marmot]

MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?

How do you know that?

I see reasons to vote for Golden, but I'll let things play out. I also have a reason not to vote for him.

I thought I had something on Golden, but apparently not. And I feel like I've seen him get cornered and thrash about like this (and voted for him), then had him get lynched and flip civ. So I'm trying to be cautious with Golden.

I guess right now I'm unsure on him one way or the other. But if I had to vote right now, he would not get my vote.

He falls on my list of "players that is trying really hard and deserves to make it past Day 1". That said, I will not vote for Golden today.

Linki: I do like bars that have the raw fruits like that in it. It sounds delicious right now, that or beer.

Also had pineapple, coconut, and dates.

It reminds me of Lara bars, which are good and pretty inexpensive too. Is your poop going to be the same color as Golden's case now? Epignosis found the color scheme noteworthy.

[DharmaHelper]

MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?

How do you know that?

I see reasons to vote for Golden, but I'll let things play out. I also have a reason not to vote for him.

I thought I had something on Golden, but apparently not. And I feel like I've seen him get cornered and thrash about like this (and voted for him), then had him get lynched and flip civ. So I'm trying to be cautious with Golden.

I guess right now I'm unsure on him one way or the other. But if I had to vote right now, he would not get my vote.

He falls on my list of "players that is trying really hard and deserves to make it past Day 1". That said, I will not vote for Golden today.

Linki: I do like bars that have the raw fruits like that in it. It sounds delicious right now, that or beer.

Also had pineapple, coconut, and dates.

It reminds me of Lara bars, which are good and pretty inexpensive too. Is your poop going to be the same color as Golden's case now? Epignosis found the color scheme noteworthy.

I'll keep you exclusively updated.

[Marmot]

How do you know that?

I see reasons to vote for Golden, but I'll let things play out. I also have a reason not to vote for him.

I thought I had something on Golden, but apparently not. And I feel like I've seen him get cornered and thrash about like this (and voted for him), then had him get lynched and flip civ. So I'm trying to be cautious with Golden.

I guess right now I'm unsure on him one way or the other. But if I had to vote right now, he would not get my vote.

He falls on my list of "players that is trying really hard and deserves to make it past Day 1". That said, I will not vote for Golden today.

Linki: I do like bars that have the raw fruits like that in it. It sounds delicious right now, that or beer.

Also had pineapple, coconut, and dates.

It reminds me of Lara bars, which are good and pretty inexpensive too. Is your poop going to be the same color as Golden's case now? Epignosis found the color scheme noteworthy.

I'll keep you exclusively updated.

Are you a recruiter? You should recruit me so we can discuss this BTS.

[S~V~S]

That a good choice for a first lynch might be someone who has a reputation for surviving deep and not getting caught when bad, since a baddie might try to recruit someone that gave them the best shot at winning. Someone like DF or DP, for example, who frequently fly under the radar. Or someone like Typhoony or llama who can often survive deep on their wily skills by not being too civvish to NK nor too baddie-looking to get lynched.

But if I look at my own psyche, I'd probably just pick people who I felt I could have fun with too. Or that I really wanted to have btsc with because I hadn't yet, or something.

I'm sorry, you don't give a damn about what question was asked? Then why was it the ENTIRE BACKBONE OF YOUR CASE!

No sir. This is the entire backbone of my case. It's not about what you asked, or S~V~S, or any of that. It's not about questions. It's that green and brown colored shit up there.

People can poo-poo it if they like. I think you are a recruiter based on THAT right there alone.

But do you have reason to believe he is a BADDIE recruiter specifically? Becasue two of the four are benign at worst, good at best.

Linki~ LARA Bars are pretty good.

[DharmaHelper]

Are you a recruiter? You should recruit me so we can discuss this BTS.

Sadly I'll just have to email you pictures of my shit.

[reywaS]

send him the peanuts

[reywaS]

[Marmot]

send him the peanuts

In his case, they might be lugnuts.

[S~V~S]

Well, this is a repulsive turn of conversation.

[reywaS]

I blame DharmaHelper.

[DharmaHelper]

I should go back to reading.

[Tangrowth]

Fuck x 9001, something's come up re: PhD and I'll probably be pulling an all-nighter tonight and possibly tomorrow night to get all of this shit done. I'm sorry, folks, but this absolutely has to come first.

I'm going to just go ahead and vote unfurl in case I can't come back in time. I know this is unlike me, but I'll be lucky enough to get this done even with not sleeping tonight. I'll catch up properly whenever I can, probably Saturday or Sunday.

[Draconus]

MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?

How do you know that?

I see reasons to vote for Golden, but I'll let things play out. I also have a reason not to vote for him.

Same.

[Marmot]

I almost forgot. I will not vote for Epignosis today.

Linki: why would you vote for unfurl you fool?

[S~V~S]

Fuck x 9001, something's come up re: PhD and I'll probably be pulling an all-nighter tonight and possibly tomorrow night to get all of this shit done. I'm sorry, folks, but this absolutely has to come first.

I'm going to just go ahead and vote unfurl in case I can't come back in time. I know this is unlike me, but I'll be lucky enough to get this done even with not sleeping tonight. I'll catch up properly whenever I can, probably Saturday or Sunday.

unfurl? I look forward to hearing why.

[Epignosis]

But do you have reason to believe he is a BADDIE recruiter specifically? Becasue two of the four are benign at worst, good at best.

Yes- my analysis indicates guilt, not innocence.