STAR WARS Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Sorsha]

[MacDougall]

Also do you know what Occam's Razor is? Because how the fuck is;

"scum keep trying to cause MP distress = scum MP is not"

anti-occam?

Because with the context of everything else that's happened, MP not being scum requires more assumptions than him being scum. Hence, anti-Occam.

Says fucking you. I haven't seen jack to convince me he's bad. It's all assumptive. At least I have factual things that occurred to back up what I'm saying.

I couldn't care less if MP is scum or not tbh. The case against him isn't convincing me. You can try if you want but all I saw yesterday were a metric fuckton of votes on him with little to no reason.

That I am the only person criticising Wilgy is about the funniest part of it all.

I realised at some point that being aggressive against everyone who posts just because they post is a pretty counterproductive to finding bad guys in this game.

People have complained about the tone. Five players have the vast majority of the posts. If we keep playing that way the bad guys will just keep laying low.

Wonder not why most players are lurking.

[a2thezebra]

Also do you know what Occam's Razor is? Because how the fuck is;

"scum keep trying to cause MP distress = scum MP is not"

anti-occam?

There's multiple factions tbh

Your face is a faction.

When I have 3 indications that he was targeted by scum. I'm going to assume that he's been targeted by both factions.

how do you know all the targets were bad?

How does he know ANY of them are bad? Or not Empire trying to get him and others to use this very approach to defending him?

I'm not being controlled at all. I'm just over being tactical. I ain't lying. Go ahead and vote me if you want because I'd like to wrap up my participation before Christmas.

I was forced to vote for MP on day 3. How do you know you were forced by scum?
Players were forced to vote for MP yesterday. How do you know we I mean they were forced by scum?
I did something something something something makes me think MP was attempted to be killed. If you're talking about the night the Hutts failed to kill, I know for a fact you're wrong because something something something something. Therefore, you are lying. That's not alternative information, that's information that contradicts yours. And I'm not the one making claims (such as "scum did this") that are unsubstantiated.

If you have alternative information, well good for you. Check the roles and you'll figure out what I'm getting at pretty fucking easily.

Then try and vote for me.

I've already voted MP, just as you have. Try and vote for ME.

[MacDougall]

Also do you know what Occam's Razor is? Because how the fuck is;

"scum keep trying to cause MP distress = scum MP is not"

anti-occam?

There's multiple factions tbh

Your face is a faction.

When I have 3 indications that he was targeted by scum. I'm going to assume that he's been targeted by both factions.

You're lying.

No I'm not douche.

Yes, you are. Your inconsistencies aren't justified from a town POV. Not anymore.

No I'm not. And put your money where your mouth is. Vote for me. Try to wagon me.

I have not lied. Not at all.

[MacDougall]

Also do you know what Occam's Razor is? Because how the fuck is;

"scum keep trying to cause MP distress = scum MP is not"

anti-occam?

There's multiple factions tbh

Your face is a faction.

When I have 3 indications that he was targeted by scum. I'm going to assume that he's been targeted by both factions.

how do you know all the targets were bad?

How does he know ANY of them are bad? Or not Empire trying to get him and others to use this very approach to defending him?

I'm not being controlled at all. I'm just over being tactical. I ain't lying. Go ahead and vote me if you want because I'd like to wrap up my participation before Christmas.

I was forced to vote for MP on day 3. How do you know you were forced by scum?
Players were forced to vote for MP yesterday. How do you know we I mean they were forced by scum?
I did something something something something makes me think MP was attempted to be killed. If you're talking about the night the Hutts failed to kill, I know for a fact you're wrong because something something something something. Therefore, you are lying. That's not alternative information, that's information that contradicts yours. And I'm not the one making claims (such as "scum did this") that are unsubstantiated.

If you have alternative information, well good for you. Check the roles and you'll figure out what I'm getting at pretty fucking easily.

Then try and vote for me.

I've already voted MP, just as you have. Try and vote for ME.

Errrrr lying=/=being wrong.

[MacDougall]

Let's say hypothetically there's a guy named George. And George throws a big rock into the water. And the water makes a splash. He can assume that him throwing that rock made a splash.

But under the water is a big fish chasing another fish. And just as the rock hits the water, the fish being chased hits the surface making a splash. These fish can also assume they caused the splash.

Na mean cowgirl?

[a2thezebra]

Also do you know what Occam's Razor is? Because how the fuck is;

"scum keep trying to cause MP distress = scum MP is not"

anti-occam?

Because with the context of everything else that's happened, MP not being scum requires more assumptions than him being scum. Hence, anti-Occam.

Says fucking you. I haven't seen jack to convince me he's bad. It's all assumptive. At least I have factual things that occurred to back up what I'm saying.

Bullsuit, none of the facts you've mentioned support your assumption. And that's if these facts were true and I know for certain that at least one of them is not. You have less than nothing to support your claims.

[a2thezebra]

Also do you know what Occam's Razor is? Because how the fuck is;

"scum keep trying to cause MP distress = scum MP is not"

anti-occam?

There's multiple factions tbh

Your face is a faction.

When I have 3 indications that he was targeted by scum. I'm going to assume that he's been targeted by both factions.

You're lying.

No I'm not douche.

Yes, you are. Your inconsistencies aren't justified from a town POV. Not anymore.

No I'm not. And put your money where your mouth is. Vote for me. Try to wagon me.

I have not lied. Not at all.

I've already voted MP. Don't worry, you're next.

[MacDougall]

Pffft you know for certain that what I'm saying isn't true do you?

How.

What.

And read my fucking analogy mater.

Linki: HAHAHAHA if you are civilian you are the suck master of all suck.

[MacDougall]

Let's say hypothetically there's a guy named George. And George throws a big rock into the water. And the water makes a splash. He can assume that him throwing that rock made a splash.

But under the water is a big fish chasing another fish. And just as the rock hits the water, the fish being chased hits the surface making a splash. These fish can also assume they caused the splash.

Na mean cowgirl?

This one.

If you don't get it, you should quit Mafia forever.

[a2thezebra]

Errrrr lying=/=being wrong.

You claimed that you had information that contradicts mine. One of us is lying. These aren't opinions we're talking about.

[MacDougall]

Errrrr lying=/=being wrong.

You claimed that you had information that contradicts mine. One of us is lying. These aren't opinions we're talking about.

I never said I knew for certain that he was targeted. I said I thought he was. How would I possibly have thought that?

[MacDougall]

Hmmmm ...

Am I

a) A player who targeted him, and blatantly saying it?
b) A player who observed him being targeted?
c) A player who protected him with a resultant no kill occurance?
d) MPs teammate making something up to protect him

Your call. The answer is there.

[a2thezebra]

Pffft you know for certain that what I'm saying isn't true do you? Yes, I do.

How. Your information indicating to you (apparently) that MP was targeted to be killed couldn't be revealed. Neither can mine. We are at a standstill like it or not.

What. You can't vote for me today. No one can.

And read my fucking analogy mater. You're almost as bad as I am when it comes to accusing people of not reading posts that they have in fact read.

Linki: HAHAHAHA if you are civilian you are the suck master of all suck.

[MacDougall]

Pffft you know for certain that what I'm saying isn't true do you? Yes, I do.

How. Your information indicating to you (apparently) that MP was targeted to be killed couldn't be revealed. Neither can mine. We are at a standstill like it or not.

What. You can't vote for me today. No one can.

And read my fucking analogy mater. You're almost as bad as I am when it comes to accusing people of not reading posts that they have in fact read.

Linki: HAHAHAHA if you are civilian you are the suck master of all suck.

Lol at least you can handle it when I call you names.

[thellama73]

RIP sig, even though all your opinions were wrong.

[MacDougall]

RIP sig, even though all your opinions were wrong.

ESPECIALLY

He's at peace now

[Dom]

Epi has had civvie vote forcers before, I believe.

[a2thezebra]

Hmmmm ...

Am I

a) A player who targeted him, and blatantly saying it?
b) A player who observed him being targeted?
c) A player who protected him with a resultant no kill occurance?
d) MPs teammate making something up to protect him

Your call. The answer is there.

You are a player making assumptions that MP is civ, while claiming to know this for certain and then going back to assuming. Where you stand when it comes to what you know and what you merely think conveniently changes depending on the argument that is being used against you. Therefore the correct answer is D.

[MacDougall]

Epi has had civvie vote forcers before, I believe.

Fair call. Possibility then.

Look I'm happy to see MP lynched because quite frankly I lean that he's bad too. I don't think the case on him is fantastic. Also I don't care if he flips civ because I have zero interest in actually assisting the town to win the game because either;

a) The civilians are the other active players and you're all annoying me
b) The civilians are all lurking and not trying, so fuck em

Linki: Okay so let's lynch MP and what are you gonna do when he flips civilian? Find a way to continue your read on me?

"Oh you knew he was civilian that's why you argued our amazing case that was bullshit because you are so utterly scum that you wifom wifom wifom."

I'm damned if I do damned if I don't, and if I'm gonna go down I'm gonna go down trolling.

[a2thezebra]

Let's say hypothetically there's a guy named George. And George throws a big rock into the water. And the water makes a splash. He can assume that him throwing that rock made a splash.

But under the water is a big fish chasing another fish. And just as the rock hits the water, the fish being chased hits the surface making a splash. These fish can also assume they caused the splash.

Na mean cowgirl?

This one.

If you don't get it, you should quit Mafia forever.

I get it and you're full of suit.

linki - Oh now you think he's bad, that's hysterical. Oh but then when he's lynched he's going to flip civilian according to you? What????

[Dom]

I'm not changing my mind on MP.

[Golden]

Full of suit.

I shall use this phrase from now on.

[MacDougall]

MP flips bad: Yeah see Mac, told you he was bad. You are definitely his teammate for sure we're probably not even going to go back and analyse the game because that would be too hard basket so let's just railroad you. Oh check out all the lazy players (scum) just also voting for you because reasons yay. Thanks for helping us lynch a scum.

MP flips civ: Yeah see Mac, the only way you could have argued our case is if you KNEW he was a civ. No it doesn't matter that there are multiple factions and you couldn't possibly have known that. You are clearly a bad guy let's vote for heeeeeee hey look at all the lazy players (scum) just also voting for you because reasons yay. Oh look Wilgy voted 20th on the wagon again how are you Wilgy? Good, yeah just go continuing to throat fuck us we love it yayyyyy.

[a2thezebra]

2 + 2 = MP is bad.

How's that for an analogy?

He can't flip civ. This is literally IMPOSSIBLE.

[MacDougall]

Let's say hypothetically there's a guy named George. And George throws a big rock into the water. And the water makes a splash. He can assume that him throwing that rock made a splash.

But under the water is a big fish chasing another fish. And just as the rock hits the water, the fish being chased hits the surface making a splash. These fish can also assume they caused the splash.

Na mean cowgirl?

This one.

If you don't get it, you should quit Mafia forever.

I get it and you're full of suit.

linki - Oh now you think he's bad, that's hysterical. Oh but then when he's lynched he's going to flip civilian according to you? What????

Lol. I think he's bad, but I think the case is made up. I think he'll flip scum and I think the case was driven by le bad team. I think that sig was bad and was just killed by MPs team for sweet vengeance. I think you are the poor sap being led into this and I am the poor sap that's going to be made the scapegoat no matter what happens.

Now excuse me I'm going to go watch porn on my phone in the shower.

[MacDougall]

2 + 2 = MP is bad.

How's that for an analogy?

He can't flip civ. This is literally IMPOSSIBLE.

I must be super ignorant then because I have literally no idea how that is such a certainty. I think he's bad but the certainty is like whoa.

[MacDougall]

For instance a civilian is almost certainly the one who swapped the lynch.

[MacDougall]

brbpornphoneshower

[a2thezebra]

Let's say hypothetically there's a guy named George. And George throws a big rock into the water. And the water makes a splash. He can assume that him throwing that rock made a splash.

But under the water is a big fish chasing another fish. And just as the rock hits the water, the fish being chased hits the surface making a splash. These fish can also assume they caused the splash.

Na mean cowgirl?

This one.

If you don't get it, you should quit Mafia forever.

I get it and you're full of suit.

linki - Oh now you think he's bad, that's hysterical. Oh but then when he's lynched he's going to flip civilian according to you? What????

Lol. I think he's bad, but I think the case is made up. I think he'll flip scum and I think the case was driven by le bad team. I think that sig was bad and was just killed by MPs team for sweet vengeance. I think you are the poor sap being led into this and I am the poor sap that's going to be made the scapegoat no matter what happens.

Why do you think he's bad? You said you thought he, I, and Dom were all civ very recently. What case are you referring to that is made up? Why is it made up and by who? If you think he'll flip scum, why are you predicting what I'll do when he "flips civ"? Again, what case? Why was it driven by mafia? Which team? And if MP is bad, which team would that make MP? Why do you think sig was bad? Why was he killed by MP's team? I sense a lot of assumptions, contradictions and flat-out lies going on here, but sure, Occam's Razor all the way bruh

[Dom]

MP flips bad: Yeah see Mac, told you he was bad. You are definitely his teammate for sure we're probably not even going to go back and analyse the game because that would be too hard basket so let's just railroad you. Oh check out all the lazy players (scum) just also voting for you because reasons yay. Thanks for helping us lynch a scum.

MP flips civ: Yeah see Mac, the only way you could have argued our case is if you KNEW he was a civ. No it doesn't matter that there are multiple factions and you couldn't possibly have known that. You are clearly a bad guy let's vote for heeeeeee hey look at all the lazy players (scum) just also voting for you because reasons yay. Oh look Wilgy voted 20th on the wagon again how are you Wilgy? Good, yeah just go continuing to throat fuck us we love it yayyyyy.

I disagree with this assessment.

[a2thezebra]

For instance a civilian is almost certainly the one who swapped the lynch.

What makes you think this? And why swap it onto Golden? Do you still think he was bad? Oh wait, we know for a fact that he wasn't.

[MacDougall]

He's bad because he's done scummy stuff that I've already pointed out. I said that because I was postulating a hypothesis that I have now recanted as of this post. The case I am referring to is the one that sig used to begin proceedings against him yesterday. It was made up because they wanted MP lynched because I think they found out he was an enemy badder and didn't want to waste a NK on a badder. Because I'm don't present things I don't know for sure as fact, so it's definitely still possible to me. I don't know which team is which.

I am also in the shower watching porn on my phone right now. The future.

Linki: Is that a serious question Zebra?

It's probably because the only role we know for sure that can do it is a civilian role.

[MacDougall]

MP flips bad: Yeah see Mac, told you he was bad. You are definitely his teammate for sure we're probably not even going to go back and analyse the game because that would be too hard basket so let's just railroad you. Oh check out all the lazy players (scum) just also voting for you because reasons yay. Thanks for helping us lynch a scum.

MP flips civ: Yeah see Mac, the only way you could have argued our case is if you KNEW he was a civ. No it doesn't matter that there are multiple factions and you couldn't possibly have known that. You are clearly a bad guy let's vote for heeeeeee hey look at all the lazy players (scum) just also voting for you because reasons yay. Oh look Wilgy voted 20th on the wagon again how are you Wilgy? Good, yeah just go continuing to throat fuck us we love it yayyyyy.

I disagree with this assessment.

So you aren't going to try to lynch me no matter what happens tomorrow? That's nice of you.

[MacDougall]

2 + 2 = MP is bad.

How's that for an analogy?

He can't flip civ. This is literally IMPOSSIBLE.

[a2thezebra]

Cut the straw man suit, Mac.

linki - I know waaaaaaay more than you think.

[MacDougall]

It's okay Golden I picked up your secret hidden message in your legacy post. Yes Golden, I will carry on your legacy to the end as I respected you as a combatant. A strong man. A kind man. But a ruthless man he was. A fought beside him in the battle of cog row, it was a bloody battle. Took down twenty men on his own with his warhammer. 'course I took down 40 men with my peen, but it was impressive nonetheless.

[MacDougall]

Cut the straw man suit, Mac.

linki - I know waaaaaaay more than you think.

I know one thing you don't know.

My role.

[a2thezebra]

Cut the straw man suit, Mac.

linki - I know waaaaaaay more than you think.

I know one thing you don't know.

My role.

If only there was an orange version of

[MacDougall]

I love that Wilgy just doesn't post in this game until he has to find somewhere to put his vote that makes it meaningless and nobody points it out. It's really awesome when that happens and we just keep going around in circles scum reading then town reading each other and then finding a way to lynch one oh no he was civ, oh no he was jawa, oh now he dead ... Wilgy is there always. Watching. Waiting to cast that meaningless vote and make a joke post. Not trying. Participating to stay alive, but not trying.

Wilgy, the evil one of the forest. The eye of madness. The dark malevolater. The violater of all creatures. The hearth of tears. The harbinger of disaster. The small of peen.

[MacDougall]

Cut the straw man suit, Mac.

linki - I know waaaaaaay more than you think.

I know one thing you don't know.

My role.

If only there was an orange version of

You mean this.

[a2thezebra]

works I guess

[a2thezebra]

Cut the straw man suit, Mac.

linki - I know waaaaaaay more than you think.

I know one thing you don't know.

My role.

If only there was an orange version of

You mean this.

Not good enough.

[MacDougall]

Look you've got me. I'll admit it. I'm

Spoiler: show

a meat popsicle.

[a2thezebra]

I KNEW IT

[MacDougall]

Seriously though how can you be not attacking Wilgy.

[MacDougall]

Wilgy has a micropenis

[a2thezebra]

Seriously though how can you be not attacking Wilgy.

Because I'm no more certain about Wilgy than any other insert-expletive-here lurker. You weren't attacking him until his MP vote yourself.

[a2thezebra]

Actually, that's not true. I'm pretty certain about Sorsha. Any other lurker is a shot in the dark and I don't advocate policy lynches. Unlike some people. Cough.

[a2thezebra]

Seriously while I disagree with everyone that got ticked off about the more vocal posters, I get where they're coming from. And it's pretty much all you Mac. You're the only one advocating lynching anyone just for being more quiet than you.