Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

[MacDougall]

Ties are stupid.

Depending on your confidence. I'd be a little relieved to see any of the four be lynched just to see things really start to move.

I hope I die. I'm sick of this game.

Confirmed bad.

[DrWilgy]

I was watching my phone's timer and mashing f5... I didn't realize Golden was planning on swapping back, I thought Mac was.

MM... You are my friend... *Salutes*

[Golden]

I don't believe it. We actually went to a four way tie.

Officially the stupidest lynch I have ever seen.

I'm actually with fz. Considering asking for a replacement. Are the civs even trying to win? I feel alone.

[HamburgerBoy]

I'm feeling my life spiral out of control

I swapped to MM to break the tie... I figured as long as it wasn't JJJ or FZ.

Nah, I think you dun gud, even if you are bad.

[S~V~S]

Well, try again y'all

Poll ended at Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:23:22 pm

Black Rock
0
No votes

Boomslang
0
No votes

DharmaHelper
2
JaggedJimmyJay (15), thellama73 (16)
7%

Dom
0
No votes

Dr. Wilgy
0
No votes

Draconus
0
No votes

Epignosis
0
No votes

FZ.
5
Draconus (10), Tranq (22), HamburgerBoy (24), Boomslang (25), MacDougall (26)
18%

Golden
0
No votes

Hamburger Boy
0
No votes

JaggedJimmyJay
5
Metalmarsh89 (1), LoRab (6), DharmaHelper (7), Long Con (9), Dom (13)
18%

Juliets
0
No votes

Long Con
0
No votes

LoRab
5
Epignosis (8), Black Rock (12), Sorsha (17), nijuukyugou (21), Golden (27)
18%

MacDougall
0
No votes

Matt
0
No votes

Metalmarsh
5
Matt (14), FZ. (19), juliets (20), bea (23), DrWilgy (28)
18%

motel room
0
No votes

nijuukyugou
0
No votes

Sorsha
0
No votes

thellama73
0
No votes

Tranq
0
No votes

bea
0
No votes

Who knows (host/dead/np)
6
Typhoony (2), Turnip Head (3), S~V~S (4), a2thezebra (5), Made (11), G-Man (18)

[Boomslang]

[Marmot]

I hope I die. I'm sick of this game.

[MacDougall]

I don't believe it. We actually went to a four way tie.

Officially the stupidest lynch I have ever seen.

I'm actually with fz. Considering asking for a replacement. Are the civs even trying to win? I feel alone.

Scummiest scum to ever scum is you, Golden.

I'm feeling my life spiral out of control

I swapped to MM to break the tie... I figured as long as it wasn't JJJ or FZ.

I don't care, I've never seen anything like this, and am glad to be a part of it.

I'm with Metalmarsh.

[DharmaHelper]

I don't believe it. We actually went to a four way tie.

Officially the stupidest lynch I have ever seen.

I'm actually with fz. Considering asking for a replacement. Are the civs even trying to win? I feel alone.

If I can stomach yelling at literally everyone to wake up last lynch you can pull through this one. We'll get there even if we have to drag everybody kicking and screaming across the finish line.

[HamburgerBoy]

I don't believe it. We actually went to a four way tie.

Officially the stupidest lynch I have ever seen.

I'm actually with fz. Considering asking for a replacement. Are the civs even trying to win? I feel alone.

I don't get it, what's wrong with a four way tie? For you, someone basically convinced of the towniness of two of the players, I could understand it, but as a general principle what is wrong with it?

[Boomslang]

EBWOP: Dammit, that was supposed to be http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GI ... on-gif.gif

[MacDougall]

I'm feeling my life spiral out of control

I swapped to MM to break the tie... I figured as long as it wasn't JJJ or FZ.

Nah, I think you dun gud, even if you are bad.

How bad is Golden though! So bad.

[MacDougall]

I don't believe it. We actually went to a four way tie.

Officially the stupidest lynch I have ever seen.

I'm actually with fz. Considering asking for a replacement. Are the civs even trying to win? I feel alone.

I don't get it, what's wrong with a four way tie? For you, someone basically convinced of the towniness of two of the players, I could understand it, but as a general principle what is wrong with it?

Golden is obviously stressed out to the max that he had to vote to save one of his teammates and then Wilgy went and fucked it all up for him and made him double anxious. Golden is bad.

[DharmaHelper]

Wilgy swapping out when Golden swapped out is seriously pretty funny though.

[Marmot]

I don't believe it. We actually went to a four way tie.

Officially the stupidest lynch I have ever seen.

I'm actually with fz. Considering asking for a replacement. Are the civs even trying to win? I feel alone.

I don't get it, what's wrong with a four way tie? For you, someone basically convinced of the towniness of two of the players, I could understand it, but as a general principle what is wrong with it?

Golden is obviously stressed out to the max that he had to vote to save one of his teammates and then Wilgy went and fucked it all up for him and made him double anxious. Golden is bad.

Which one is his teamie?

[FZ.]

Ties are stupid.

Depending on your confidence. I'd be a little relieved to see any of the four be lynched just to see things really start to move.

Lynching civvies just to see the game "move" is such a counter civ thing to want.


It's so easy to enjoy this when you're not among those on the lynch trains. Scum, if I don't die, please NK me. This is the shittiest game ever.


linki: I think Golden is playing a more civ game than any of you

[Golden]

I don't believe it. We actually went to a four way tie.

Officially the stupidest lynch I have ever seen.

I'm actually with fz. Considering asking for a replacement. Are the civs even trying to win? I feel alone.

Scummiest scum to ever scum is you, Golden.

I'm feeling my life spiral out of control

I swapped to MM to break the tie... I figured as long as it wasn't JJJ or FZ.

I don't care, I've never seen anything like this, and am glad to be a part of it.

I'm with Metalmarsh.

Mac, one day you will go through a game never doubting I'm civ. That's the time I'll actually be bad.

Oh wait, that already described our entire mafia history.

The civs only tool is the lynch. Leave it to chance and you are literally giving your only tool away. May as well have not had a lynch and given the mafia an extra nk.

[HamburgerBoy]

Does it bother anyone else that Epi seems to be reading the thread a lot but not posting?

666.

[MacDougall]

I don't believe it. We actually went to a four way tie.

Officially the stupidest lynch I have ever seen.

I'm actually with fz. Considering asking for a replacement. Are the civs even trying to win? I feel alone.

I don't get it, what's wrong with a four way tie? For you, someone basically convinced of the towniness of two of the players, I could understand it, but as a general principle what is wrong with it?

Golden is obviously stressed out to the max that he had to vote to save one of his teammates and then Wilgy went and fucked it all up for him and made him double anxious. Golden is bad.

Which one is his teamie?

FZ or JJJ ... or *pause for effect* both!

[Golden]

And the idea that mafia would blink in that scenario is equally daft.

[DharmaHelper]

Does it bother anyone else that Epi seems to be reading the thread a lot but not posting?

666.

He's probably waiting to say something incredibly profound.

[a2thezebra]

*sings a sad song for the sorrowful civilians*

[HamburgerBoy]

Lynching civvies just to see the game "move" is such a counter civ thing to want.


It's so easy to enjoy this when you're not among those on the lynch trains. Scum, if I don't die, please NK me. This is the shittiest game ever.


linki: I think Golden is playing a more civ game than any of you

Aside from you, who do you think are civvies? Even LoRab I'm hardly confident about; I just feel that Sorsha and Black Rock are scummier. No one would go along with my Dom suggestion.

[Marmot]

Does it bother anyone else that Epi seems to be reading the thread a lot but not posting?

666.

Not really. I know he always leaves a mafia tab open while he's away. I often do the same thing.

[FZ.]

I don't believe it. We actually went to a four way tie.

Officially the stupidest lynch I have ever seen.

I'm actually with fz. Considering asking for a replacement. Are the civs even trying to win? I feel alone.

I don't get it, what's wrong with a four way tie? For you, someone basically convinced of the towniness of two of the players, I could understand it, but as a general principle what is wrong with it?

Golden is obviously stressed out to the max that he had to vote to save one of his teammates and then Wilgy went and fucked it all up for him and made him double anxious. Golden is bad.

Which one is his teamie?

FZ or JJJ ... or *pause for effect* both!

You are obviously the civvie MVP

[HamburgerBoy]

And the idea that mafia would blink in that scenario is equally daft.

I can't give an exact example off the top of my head, but I feel that it's happened before. With potentially two scum teams at play, that makes it especially favorable.

[DharmaHelper]

Who wants to take bets on whether TH and SVS built a tie-breaker role?

[Dom]

I don't think it's that obvious. He didn't explain his suspicions just now about JJJ defending FZ. His vote on JJJ 3.0 was relatively early and without much explanation either (just a "Then what the hell is this?"). He's been going with bandwagons pretty steadily now.

And for my own reason, in addition to the above, I've been suspicious since I read his day 0 posts, almost predicting that llama would become a suspect starting day 1. In general I just get non-townie vibes from him too.

You're wrong about me. I think I have laid it out nicely. I liked LC's case on JJ and think his responses have only damned him more. I don't think his survival is suspicious in itself.

I also think it's weird that he has yet to propose an alternate lynch candidate to actually be bad and not a lesser of two evils candidate. He just keeps defending himself and FZ.

If Rico wasn't a confirmed civ, I'd probably eye him for suggesting Dom is bad because of the word "suspish". However, fun story, and Long Con can concur. In AWR, one of the reasons I guessed Dom was the Living Statue was because in btsc he said "tbqh", and in the game, he was literally the only person to use "tbqh" haha. So maybe you have a point.

Nah. If Dom was bad, he would've ripped Boomslang a new one for daring to suspect him. That's what I've seen bad Dom do in multiple games, just FREAK OUT on the person suspecting him.

I like Golden's vote and just may join him.

I appreciate your sentiment here, but I also don't think that's a fair characterization of all my baddie play. Anyway, your "maybe you have a point think" is chock full of fallacy. You are comparing me using a word I use often currently and confirming my identity to someone attacking me for using a word that is in my lexicon, but not used often.

So you'd actively start a bandwagon against someone you read as civ as a civ?
I don't buy it.

I didn't say that. FZ didn't do that. This is irrelevant.

Start a bandwagon was not good word choice.
Actively campaign is better.

That's a bad word choice too because FZ didn't do that either. I've made that more than clear. You seem to be consciously manipulating the course of events to fit your suspicion.

Why are you defending FZ?

Because DH made a terrible, crap, worthless case and some people actually accepted the points as good. It's mind-boggling. FZ is a strong town read, and I will always defend strong town reads when they're being suspected for stupid reasons. I think DH is plain bad for it, there's no way he has paid so little attention. I'm also starting to think I gave you too much benefit of the doubt for the "shot at bea" thing, because your recent conduct is awful.

....so your buddying didn't work and now I'm somehow bad for it?

I did a search of Dom's entire post and have found only a dozen of posts in which the word suspish appears. He himself has used it only once before, in Star Wars.

I now believe Dom is in team with someone who is inadvertedly influencing his word use during their private chatter.

Players who so far who used this word in this game are llama and LoRab.

I don't have BTSC with Dom. We are not on a baddie team together. If he is civ, then we are on the same team.

I will say that suspish is a word that was used a lot on LP and TP, which is where Dom learned to mafia. So it doesn't strike me as odd language from Dom. He also could have picked it up from me during our BTSC time in the last game.

All that said, it's not a word I'd expect to hear from Llama...so...an interesting note to keep in mind.

Civs are not a team.

Dom has used it a whooping one time on Syndicate in three years of being on this site (oh, to the day! ). His LP/TP background doesn't matter. You are clearly in BTSC, talking about how to feign that you find X or Y "suspish", or actively talking through which players could be "suspish" as a second mafia output (if there is a second team).

You defending this and bringing up background from the B.C. of mafia playing, when the guy obviously didn't keep the word in his language for the past three years, doesn't make me feel any better about this.

I think it's time to remove the tinfoil hat.

You, LC, Canuck, LoRab, bea and a few others I (very superficially) checked having "suspish" in their vocabulary would not be uncommon at all. Dom using it for the second time ever - the first being a game he won as indy bad - is uncommon and fully supports my theory.

Saying that your theory "fits" and that your theory has any chance on being correct are two different things.

It'll now be the third time me saying that yes, temp votes should normally affect players who need not receive votes to be empowered.

I just voted for every player that hasn't already received a vote today and then returned to Tranq. I have no idea whether the hosts even have a way to track that, but I did it so there you go.

You better hope there's no Golem.

Dom's point is very poor. He asserts FZ campaigned for a LoRab lynch. She did nothing of the sort. She begrudgingly placed her vote after I pushed her in that direction.

You know what?
You're right.
She hardly mentioned LoRab at all OTHER THAN SAYING SHE THINKS SHE IS GENUINE AND IS VOTING FOR HER INSTEAD OF YOU WHICH SHE SAID MIGHT BE BAD BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOTS OF EXPERIENCE WITH YOU THINK YOU ARE.
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I'm here. I just started reading, but saw that a lot of people talked about me and two posts that seriously pissed me off.
This:

I will barely be here this day, so I really hope this doesn't go JJJ's way. I do agree that if he is bad, and knew he won't be lynched, that there are scum in his voters.

And this:

If you guys don't feel like JJJ has tipped his hand (which I do, for the record) at the very least vote for his teammate FZ. who has made it perfectly crystal clear she is bad as fuck.

1. What civ minded person would participate in the lynching of someone they FULLY ADMIT THEY BELIEVE TO BE A GENUINE CIV

2. What civ minded person says "Sure JJJ *could* be bad, and if he flips bad, don't look at the people that saved him, look at the people that voted to lynch him"

What a joke that is.

DH, you must be the worst baddie to ever walk this planet. Why would I, as an alleged baddi, who went after Lorab for her reply to BR and told her that her reaction was suspicious as hell, would then go and say she sounded genuine, before voting for her? Why not just leave my suspicion there, which a lot of people supported by the way, and assuming I know she's civ, (which even if I was bad I couldn't, if there are 2 teams and not 1, that is) and make myself look much better in my defense of JJJ? How stupid do you think I am to do what you suggest I did, as a baddie?

If you do that as a baddie, then you need to get your act straight. I don't. I was contemplating my actions out loud. I was suspicious of Lorab, but was also a little afraid to vote for her, because her last defense felt somewhat genuine. Even so, out of the two top vote getters, I felt JJJ was the more sure civvie.

Seriously, there are reasons to suspect people, and there are reasons to just end up looking like a real idiot. Which to me, you do at the moment (no offence). I thought you were bad before. I need to decide whether to go back to that thought or not. Now, I'll go back and look at who agreed with you, and who among you feel the most suspicious for that.

This feels like a "you suspect me for the wrong reasons" post.

I still have a few more pages to read , but from what I have read so far, out of those who have votes, I think I'm most comfortable voting for MM. I think I would also feel comfortable voting for Drac, but he has no votes, for Sorsha or Dom. Either have votes at the moment.

MM feels to me like he was in Pikmin mafia. He's mostly making jokes, he's not contributing at all from what I can remember. I remember when I was bad with him in Pikmin, I kept telling him to start contributing more, because the MM I remember from a few games in which he was a civ (Flash comes to mind), he was doing a lot of research and trying to figure out things, whereas in Pikmin, he kept asking people if they were bad or on teams with one another.


As for Lorab, her defences still have me doubting her baddiness. Again, I don't see her as a clear civ, like I view JJJ, but I'd rather not vote her if I don't have to save JJJ. Yeah, the late votes for JJJ could be an attempt to save her, but they could also be from people who thought JJJ could be bad, if they know there are more baddies than just them. Clearly, me feeling better about her could just me being too naive, but I'm hesitant. I feel BR is genuine, so I believe her vote is also genuine, and I'm still not sure what to think about Epi, but I'm wondering whether his persistence is because he knows something, or something else.

Lastly, tranque is just an easy lynch. I don't tend to give those kind of players the time of day. This is my game philosophy:
If a player is bad, but non existent in the game, and the baddies win the game because of that player, they can take that win and shove it. I tend to think that baddies try harder than civvies because they know other people depend on them. How hard is it, to come up with a stupid reason to vote for someone, and look better than just driving by and voting? And if you're really doing that as a baddie, you're just a coward.

When have you expressed any suspicion of me before this post?
If Tranq is so easy, why has it taken so long to lynch him for playing just like he did the last time he was bad?

I'd be happy to vote for Dom. While even Sorsha I can partially excuse for kick-starting the LoRab run yesterday (golden said it would be her or LoRab to save Jimmy; Sorsha's response was only natural self-preservation), Dom's been coasting and others more familiar with him than I have suspected him for his tone and kinda arbitrary votes. Why can't we do this?

Who has suspected me for those reasons?
Because the opposite is true.


Sorsha, I do think it's weird. It's almost like the pile on of votes on Lorab was a paper thin save attempt on JJJ.

[MacDougall]

I don't believe it. We actually went to a four way tie.

Officially the stupidest lynch I have ever seen.

I'm actually with fz. Considering asking for a replacement. Are the civs even trying to win? I feel alone.

Scummiest scum to ever scum is you, Golden.

I'm feeling my life spiral out of control

I swapped to MM to break the tie... I figured as long as it wasn't JJJ or FZ.

I don't care, I've never seen anything like this, and am glad to be a part of it.

I'm with Metalmarsh.

Mac, one day you will go through a game never doubting I'm civ. That's the time I'll actually be bad.

Oh wait, that already described our entire mafia history.

The civs only tool is the lynch. Leave it to chance and you are literally giving your only tool away. May as well have not had a lynch and given the mafia an extra nk.

Yeah but like, nobody had pushed a compelling consensus today and these four were all the main suspects so putting them together and flipping coins is probably not the worst thing to do...

Also, why are you so sure that civilians are responsible for just went down? Sounds like because you know something we don't know Mr. Scum.

Goldilocks = badilocks

At any rate it really is not a bad thing. Far from it. It's both good AND funny.

[Marmot]

2 smashcoins says all four of us are lynched.

[MacDougall]

Haha the timing of Dom's post is beautiful. It's like a fat man trying to squeeze into a seat between two people on an aeroplane.

[HamburgerBoy]

Oh, I just remembered that during Frisky Dingo, niju made a last-minute tie vote that ended up lynching a scum "by chance". Or at least I think that's how it went down, too lazy to check right now.

[DrWilgy]

umm... Hi Dom!

[S~V~S]

Lorab twirled, she just loved to twirl.

Everywhere she looked, there were more people fighting for their lives. She twirled past JJJ, and MM, and FZ. and past DH. She ignored their struggles and just ... kept ... twirling

She was twirling so fast, she did not notice the group of people with sickles and pitchforks until she plowed right into them.

She finally stopped twirling.

Lorab has been lynched. She was:

Spoiler: show

Ozymandias - Watchmen BADDIE
Every time two civilians in a row are lynched, Ozymandias can force the game into the Position of his choice. If he cannot use this ability, he may spy on a player to see who they target.

It is now Night 3. You have 23 hours to get in your night actions.

[DharmaHelper]

Dom right now: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/ori ... 46/9a1.png

[Marmot]

Oh, I just remembered that during Frisky Dingo, niju made a last-minute tie vote that ended up lynching a scum "by chance". Or at least I think that's how it went down, too lazy to check right now.

I remember that game. I was lynched on Day 1 with 3 measly votes.

Linki: Good show wut.

[HamburgerBoy]

Welp.

[Golden]

And the idea that mafia would blink in that scenario is equally daft.

I can't give an exact example off the top of my head, but I feel that it's happened before. With potentially two scum teams at play, that makes it especially favorable.

In a scenario where the whole thread is saying 'first person to blink is scum'... I think not.

@mac. Twenty players in this game didn't try to stop the tie. If they are all bad town is screwed.

Linki thank god the lynch went the right way.

[MacDougall]

Lorab twirled, she just loved to twirl.

Everywhere she looked, there were more people fighting for their lives. She twirled past JJJ, and MM, and FZ. and past DH. She ignored their struggles and just ... kept ... twirling

She was twirling so fast, she did not notice the group of people with sickles and pitchforks until she plowed right into them.

She finally stopped twirling.

Lorab has been lynched. She was:

Spoiler: show

Ozymandias - Watchmen BADDIE
Every time two civilians in a row are lynched, Ozymandias can force the game into the Position of his choice. If he cannot use this ability, he may spy on a player to see who they target.

Hahahahahah yessssssssssssssssssssssss. The amazing coin flip of destiny.
It is now Night 3. You have 23 hours to get in your night actions.

[MacDougall]

Lorab twirled, she just loved to twirl.

Everywhere she looked, there were more people fighting for their lives. She twirled past JJJ, and MM, and FZ. and past DH. She ignored their struggles and just ... kept ... twirling

She was twirling so fast, she did not notice the group of people with sickles and pitchforks until she plowed right into them.

She finally stopped twirling.

Lorab has been lynched. She was:

Spoiler: show

Ozymandias - Watchmen BADDIE
Every time two civilians in a row are lynched, Ozymandias can force the game into the Position of his choice. If he cannot use this ability, he may spy on a player to see who they target.

Hahahahahah yessssssssssssssssssssssss. The amazing coin flip of destiny.

It is now Night 3. You have 23 hours to get in your night actions.

Hahaha oops quote fuckery


Hahahahahah yessssssssssssssssssssssss. The amazing coin flip of destiny.

[Sorsha]

Ha!

That's all I have to say right now.

[Marmot]

In a scenario where the whole thread is saying 'first person to blink is scum'... I think not.

I had my eyes closed.

[HamburgerBoy]

Voted Whitney & Bobby because I don't know them.

re: golden, maybe you're right, I still think this narrow lynch will give a lot of info to look back on. I think a lot of it will make me look bad but oh well.

[DharmaHelper]

Yay!

[MacDougall]

And the idea that mafia would blink in that scenario is equally daft.

I can't give an exact example off the top of my head, but I feel that it's happened before. With potentially two scum teams at play, that makes it especially favorable.

In a scenario where the whole thread is saying 'first person to blink is scum'... I think not.

@mac. Twenty players in this game didn't try to stop the tie. If they are all bad town is screwed.

Linki thank god the lynch went the right way.

Yeah but the tie was caused by one person. I put it to a three way tie and then I made it a four way tie just so I could make a screenshot. I will take all the credit for that lynch cheers.

[MacDougall]

Dom right now: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/ori ... 46/9a1.png

Ha

Haahahaha

[S~V~S]

Voted Whitney & Bobby because I don't know them.

re: golden, maybe you're right, I still think this narrow lynch will give a lot of info to look back on. I think a lot of it will make me look bad but oh well.

They took a lot of drugs and made a lot of irresponsible decisions. So it works for me; I am sure not for TH though

[MacDougall]

Okay since Golden attempted to actually make Lorab the sole lynchee there that makes him look way not bad. So forget I ever said that.

Top show Golden.

Wilgy, you almost fucked up a lynch. But thank you for the entertainment.

[Dom]

Dom right now: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/ori ... 46/9a1.png

TRU


Also good call on Lorab, everyone!

[Golden]

Voted Thelma and Louise because svs and th could drive this game off a cliff and I'd willingly go over with them.