Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

[Ricochet]

First Night, Matt asks Draco who might have cursed him, Draco replies "Good question. I dunno". Rules, he says.

Huh?

Just contradicting you further on others ever respecting the rule you're so intent to. Whilst re-reading Draco.

D6, Long Con asks who had the question curses so far, Draco confirms. Teehee.

[DharmaHelper]

First Night, Matt asks Draco who might have cursed him, Draco replies "Good question. I dunno". Rules, he says.

Huh?

Just contradicting you further on others ever respecting the rule you're so intent to. Whilst re-reading Draco.

D6, Long Con asks who had the question curses so far, Draco confirms. Teehee.

I don't think you understand what "contradicting" means. The idea of others breaking the rules doesn't excuse me doing so, and it doesn't allow me to do so. Did I claim otherwise?

Why is this a legitimate avenue of discussion?

[Ricochet]

DH - What do you make of niju and juliets claiming to be vote blocked, then?

Is there an actual issue with that? I didn't spot multiple claims after a particular Day phase. I was actually ready to jump on juliets yesterDay for not voting in what could have been a tiebreaker move, but then I read her claiming she couldn't, so

linki: It's not.

[DharmaHelper]

Matt, why are you the only one who thinks this is a legitimate discussion?

[DharmaHelper]

Follow up questions for Matt:

What is your role?
Who are your teammates, if any?
Please quote, screenshot, paraphrase, or in some other way disclose all host interactions with you up to this point
Would you be willing to skip this night poll and two additional consecutive polls of any kind?
Who have you targeted this whole game?
What were you targeted by this whole game?
Have you now or have you ever had BTSC? If so, please post a transcript.
Have you won any prizes? If so, which, and how have you used them?
Did you read the rules and did you use the word "scandalous at all in this game?
Would you like to question the hosts as to the application of any of the rules?

*If you are told to vote for a specific person, or are given a task or a curse, IT IS UNDERSTOOD that you are not to make it obvious. Don't toe this line.

[Matt]

Matt, why are you the only one who thinks this is a legitimate discussion?

My original question to you was actually going to lead up to wondering if Zebra was "seemed", but then your strange denial of the curses has now got me intrigued. Not even on you, I'm curious about juliets and niju now. Why are you getting so defensive over this?

Linki - Lol. That's not at all the same thing, but k.

[Ricochet]

That list deserves 2nd prize, next to my Tranq questionnaire, that's for sure.

[Matt]

Oh, and "the only one" ?

Ummm the only people in the thread right now are you, me and the zombie. I'd hardly classify me as being "the only one", let's wait for the thread to catch up, shall we?

[DharmaHelper]

Matt, why are you the only one who thinks this is a legitimate discussion?

My original question to you was actually going to lead up to wondering if Zebra was "seemed", but then your strange denial of the curses has now got me intrigued. Not even on you, I'm curious about juliets and niju now. Why are you getting so defensive over this?

Linki - Lol. That's not at all the same thing, but k.

You seemed to be grilling me into breaking the rules, and indignant at me when I wouldn't. That's why.

[Marmot]

In a game where everyone who can't vote is quick to announce that, as soon as the phase changes, DH seemingly can't admit to having been cursed.

Ok.

Why is everyone else having so much trouble? I haven't been cursed or voteblocked yet.

[Marmot]

Oh, and "the only one" ?

Ummm the only people in the thread right now are you, me and the zombie. I'd hardly classify me as being "the only one", let's wait for the thread to catch up, shall we?

Don't mind me.

[DharmaHelper]

Anything to Add Wiggles? How's Sorsha and your other BTSC pals doin? You guys ready for when yall get steamrolled starting next lynch?

[Marmot]

In a game where everyone who can't vote is quick to announce that, as soon as the phase changes, DH seemingly can't admit to having been cursed.

Ok.

Why is everyone else having so much trouble? I haven't been cursed or voteblocked yet.

This is an observation of my own behavior. Metalmarsh has not missed a vote or exhibited any signs of being under the influence of a known curse.

[Matt]

Matt, why are you the only one who thinks this is a legitimate discussion?

My original question to you was actually going to lead up to wondering if Zebra was "seemed", but then your strange denial of the curses has now got me intrigued. Not even on you, I'm curious about juliets and niju now. Why are you getting so defensive over this?

Linki - Lol. That's not at all the same thing, but k.

You seemed to be grilling me into breaking the rules, and indignant at me when I wouldn't. That's why.

What do you mean "grilling" ? I asked you a simple question. If anything, Rico was "grilling" you, and when I returned, didn't continue that line of questioning, instead I asked you about niju and juliets. To which your answer was "I dunno".

How about this then? Do you think it's possible that Zebra was "seemed" ?

[Marmot]

Nah, zebra was bad... Right?

[DharmaHelper]

Matt, why are you the only one who thinks this is a legitimate discussion?

My original question to you was actually going to lead up to wondering if Zebra was "seemed", but then your strange denial of the curses has now got me intrigued. Not even on you, I'm curious about juliets and niju now. Why are you getting so defensive over this?

Linki - Lol. That's not at all the same thing, but k.

You seemed to be grilling me into breaking the rules, and indignant at me when I wouldn't. That's why.

What do you mean "grilling" ? I asked you a simple question. If anything, Rico was "grilling" you, and when I returned, didn't continue that line of questioning, instead I asked you about niju and juliets. To which your answer was "I dunno".

How about this then? Do you think it's possible that Zebra was "seemed" ?

I guess anything really is possible. I don't think it's likely or practical or reasonable. Possible, sure.

[DharmaHelper]

Yeah, I think both niju and Juliets have spoken about being vote blocked. Also, when Boom was "question cursed", he literally thanked SVS in the thread for it being over.

Wtf

DH - What do you make of niju and juliets claiming to be vote blocked, then?

I read this post as you using the examples of JC and Blooper to further question why I wouldn't talk about curses.

Did I read that wrong?

[DrWilgy]

Anything to Add Wiggles? How's Sorsha and your other BTSC pals doin? You guys ready for when yall get steamrolled starting next lynch?

Nope, doing homework. Pressing F5 every few problems or so.

[Marmot]

Maybe Ricochet was also seemed.

[DharmaHelper]

Anything to Add Wiggles? How's Sorsha and your other BTSC pals doin? You guys ready for when yall get steamrolled starting next lynch?

Nope, doing homework. Pressing F5 every few problems or so.

RIP tho since ur bad.

[Marmot]

Anything to Add Wiggles? How's Sorsha and your other BTSC pals doin? You guys ready for when yall get steamrolled starting next lynch?

Nope, doing homework. Pressing F5 every few problems or so.

RIP tho since ur bad.

U gonna nightkill him?

[Matt]

Yeah, I think both niju and Juliets have spoken about being vote blocked. Also, when Boom was "question cursed", he literally thanked SVS in the thread for it being over.

Wtf

DH - What do you make of niju and juliets claiming to be vote blocked, then?

I read this post as you using the examples of JC and Blooper to further question why I wouldn't talk about curses.

Did I read that wrong?

Yup. As you can see, my question at the end there had nothing to do with "why won't you talk about your curse, DH?" and everything to do with if you think niju and juliets were faking.

[DharmaHelper]

Yeah, I think both niju and Juliets have spoken about being vote blocked. Also, when Boom was "question cursed", he literally thanked SVS in the thread for it being over.

Wtf

DH - What do you make of niju and juliets claiming to be vote blocked, then?

I read this post as you using the examples of JC and Blooper to further question why I wouldn't talk about curses.

Did I read that wrong?

Yup. As you can see, my question at the end there had nothing to do with "why won't you talk about your curse, DH?" and everything to do with if you think niju and juliets were faking.

Why would they fake that?

[Matt]

MM - Why aren't you commenting on Mac's assertion that we're distancing? I guess you're a baddie who just doesn't care who gets caught up with you?

Thanks brah

Linki - So you think niju and juliets are on the level then? Do you consider them "rule breakers" in general?

[Marmot]

MM - Why aren't you commenting on Mac's assertion that we're distancing? I guess you're a baddie who just doesn't care who gets caught up with you?

Thanks brah

Linki - So you think niju and juliets are on the level then? Do you consider them "rule breakers" in general?

Dunno. I'm on my phone and haven't read that much yet.

[DharmaHelper]

MM - Why aren't you commenting on Mac's assertion that we're distancing? I guess you're a baddie who just doesn't care who gets caught up with you?

Thanks brah

Linki - So you think niju and juliets are on the level then? Do you consider them "rule breakers" in general?

My question was "Why would they fake that?". If you're going to make an assertion, You should be able to follow it to a logical conclusion. I don't yet have an opinion.

[Matt]

I'd like to bring everyone back to this post from 5 days ago, of which nobody ever answered me...

Question for anyone who plays a lot with Blooper - Is she typically a rule breaker? Weird question, I know, please bare with me, and answer whether she is known to break/bend rules.

When she originally said she was vote blocked, I actually thought that was weird because of the rules. Nobody, not one person, answered me on this.

Now I'm curious. Are niju and juliets players who typically "break rules" ?

[DharmaHelper]

I'd like to bring everyone back to this post from 5 days ago, of which nobody ever answered me...

Question for anyone who plays a lot with Blooper - Is she typically a rule breaker? Weird question, I know, please bare with me, and answer whether she is known to break/bend rules.

When she originally said she was vote blocked, I actually thought that was weird because of the rules. Nobody, not one person, answered me on this.

Now I'm curious. Are niju and juliets players who typically "break rules" ?

I genuinely do not know.

[Ricochet]

Maybe Ricochet was also seemed.

Maybe you've been waiting for your bad time for two weekends already and I failed to deliver it to you. Sorry for letting you down.

[Draconus]

First Night, Matt asks Draco who might have cursed him, Draco replies "Good question. I dunno". Rules, he says.

Huh?

Just contradicting you further on others ever respecting the rule you're so intent to. Whilst re-reading Draco.

D6, Long Con asks who had the question curses so far, Draco confirms. Teehee.

I read the rules, said "scandalous" in my first post, and then forgot about them not that far into the game. There was a lot of reading to be done, and I'm forgetful. Don't mod-kill me pls!

[Matt]

DH - Your theory of Wilgy/Sorsha being on a team, where does MM fit in? Also on the team?

Despite Dom's obvious, obvious, obvious breadcrumb of MM being bad, I can't seem to remember you even mentioning him in the last day or two. What is your opinion of MM? What is your opinion of Dom's post about MM, where he advises town to get a refund on MM's claim?

[Matt]

Hmmm. Rereading DH, it's funny.

Votes LC on account of Boom's "info".

When LC flips, immediately calls out Boom for being bad, calls him a liar, asks him to please go and get lynched, yet doesn't vote him yesterday.

When Boom flips, immediately goes after Sorsha for being a baddie because she voted him.

I mean wtf.

To anyone who has DH as a civ read...why?

That being said, I don't want to get distracted. Can we please lynch the fuck out of MM tomorrow? Thankies!

[Ricochet]

Draconus

Sparing or fighting attitude vs. the great Papryco
argues with the great me over BOTD'ing LoRab
no mercy D1 vote on him

Draconus - zebra - Draconus
nada?
--
D1 comments on there being two curse roles, even if Draco (and JJJ) would be faking it guess she'd know better
comments on Draco clearly being question cursed or faking it

Draconus - LoRab - Draconus
N0 casual chuckle when Mac suss's LoRab for her vote
won't vote LoRab because of seeing familiar meta and AWR remorse
argues with the great Papryco over BOTD'ing LoRab
N3 rebuttal on being brought up as a name in connection with LoRab
mentions that, if ever returning to D3, "would have voted LoRab"
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nada from LoRab

votes
D1 wild ride, voting Rico, then MM, then himself, then finally Rico again; all mid to EoD votes
D2 self-votes...I actually don't have it in my spreadsheets when
D3 votes Llama to help JJJ in the polls; early vote, never returns (no time)
D3.5 votes FZ for "covering all bases" in case of JJJ relynch; early vote, never returns
D4 votes llama (to avoid another tie fest?) + earlier "placehold" vote on DH; early first vote, then EoD-ish final vote
D5 flips a coin and votes MM; intentionally leaves vote where it is, because of too much EoD circus
D6 votes LC, then himself to save LC, then no more and simply votes Dom (...because??) [??]
(N6 explanation)
D7 votes Boom

other notes
N0 won't vote Fuzz
fends off Mac suspecting him for dismissing the candidates posted and offering none of his own
more fluff and Duff
knows what course he'll pursue on D1
D1 gets question cursed, considers MM policy lynch, but actually votes Rico
leans LoRab after "compelling" arguments from Epig and Sorsha
more banter, fluff and Duff
self-votes, then votes Rico again
more banter, fluff and Duff
N1 speculates he was hindered from talking properly about his leads during D1 with the curse
D2 can't play, self-votes
N2 one post about voting Aliens
D3 questions suspicions on JJJ; later reiterates he doesn't see JJJ as bad (calls it gut); votes llama
calls Jay yellowish and llama orange in his hypothetical rainbow list
D3.5 suss's and votes FZ for wishy-washy address of JJJ's new vote trend; likes that DH agrees on FZ's "ridiculous" post
N3 calls DH worse looking after LoRab flip
D4 unsure why Dom tone reads him bad for N3 statements, particularly calling DH bad
N4 derps on voting position 1
D5 wouldn't mind a five way tie
D6 tries to recap, talks about Trickster theory, question curses
parrots FZ's vote for LC, says "he understands why LC voted for him"
trusts Mac, offers to sacrifice himself for LC, then suddenly doesn't get why he's the sacrificial pawn, switches off him when it doesn't matter anymore
in reply to Mac, says the whole EoD is a farce
N6 explains self-vote
D7 seems to embrace Dom's List, by red writing Wilgy, Boom, Marmot, Matt, also suspecting Mac, FZ
eyeballs motel room for lurking (wow, what a revelation)
plans to re-evaluate Mac, but in the meantime follows him on lynching Boom
N7 picks up DH's comment on Sorsha's replies to Wilgy post-mislynch being super fishy
in reply to Mac, denies buddying up to DH; reiterates that Mac is blowing things out of proportion
actually, he suss's Mac now for his green reads on DH and Wilgy



Well, congrats Draco, regardless of your alignment, this isn't much to work with. Even for the details that I could say ping me the most so far, you come up with half-decent explanations, afterwards, at least for me. I can count two major pings, in this regard: 1) how you BOTD's LoRab sitting somewhere in between "simply blowing up in your face" and "something a teamie could afford, since LoRab's gameplay would, after all, be implacable...and then blow up in your face." and 2) your D6 vote switcheroos, which on paper look mesmerizingly awkward and inconsistent and only after your N6 explanation does it all untangle. For instance, the fact that you voted LC sarcastically doesn't come out from your original posts that well. I cannot quite tell what this can say about your true intentions, but it's definitely one of your shoddier moments. The fact that your bantered with Mac about a five-way tie being neat, followed by in the next post, a mere two minutes later, being bothered by the EoD chaos, both during the same D5 (in which you didn't do much else), could count as a minor third issue.

You've missed out on a lot of phases and your D7-N7 second wind could in theory have a whiff of "grabbing on to Dom's legacy, then echoing the post-lynch suspicions" to it. You'd be eligible for any "baddie working in the shadows and being hard to get a read on" job position, but I confess I don't actually have anything close to resembling this verdict.



Follow-up questions:

1) After Day 1, you posited that you were cursed in order to not get your D1 info out in the open properly (that you announced since N0). I don't think I remember you actually revealing what your D1 info would have been.

2) Mac, there's quite a gap between you having suss'd Draco on N0/D1 and calling him untrustworthy and suss again starting roughly D5?-D6 till present time. Why said gap?

[Marmot]

DH - Your theory of Wilgy/Sorsha being on a team, where does MM fit in? Also on the team?

Despite Dom's obvious, obvious, obvious breadcrumb of MM being bad, I can't seem to remember you even mentioning him in the last day or two. What is your opinion of MM? What is your opinion of Dom's post about MM, where he advises town to get a refund on MM's claim?

Matt, why do I have to be forcefully fit into your baddie puzzle?

[Matt]

DH - Your theory of Wilgy/Sorsha being on a team, where does MM fit in? Also on the team?

Despite Dom's obvious, obvious, obvious breadcrumb of MM being bad, I can't seem to remember you even mentioning him in the last day or two. What is your opinion of MM? What is your opinion of Dom's post about MM, where he advises town to get a refund on MM's claim?

Matt, why do I have to be forcefully fit into your baddie puzzle?

I don't know where you fit, but I'm willing to take Dom's word that you lied.

What do you make of DH not even considering you for yesterday's lynch? What do you make of DH going after Sorsha after Boom's flip, but not calling you out on voting Boom?

[Marmot]

Why aren't you willing to take my word that I'm telling the truth?

[Matt]

Why aren't you willing to take my word that I'm telling the truth?

Hmmm. Good question. Maybe I'll put this quote in my signature, because people seem to forget so often...

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

[Matt]

Why aren't you willing to take my word that I'm telling the truth?

Also, you didn't answer my questions about DH.

Is he your partner?

[Marmot]

Why aren't you willing to take my word that I'm telling the truth?

Hmmm. Good question. Maybe I'll put this quote in my signature, because people seem to forget so often...

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

I may appear as Indy. Doesn't mean I'm not neutral.

[Marmot]

Why aren't you willing to take my word that I'm telling the truth?

Also, you didn't answer my questions about DH.

Is he your partner?

What was your question about DH?

[Matt]

Town - I think MM and DH are baddies together.

Regardless, even if Mac and everyone else thinks I'm distancing, can we PLEASE lynch MM tomorrow?

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

Ask yourselves. Why has DH barely mentioned MM since Dom's flip? Why is he so against Sorsha voting for Boom, yet doesn't "grill" MM the same way?

Why is MM pretending to not know what questions I had about DH, despite him and myself going back and forth here? Is MM unable to read certain parts of posts?

Blah

[Matt]

My bad, DH did mention MM kind of after Dom's flip.

I'm a neutral.

I started the game being intentionally all over the place and making intentionally suspicious remarks and claims. But everyone decided to lynch Ricochet instead because he obviously did a better job then I did. After that happened, I didn't have much to do or play for, so I went into post-nothing-but-shit mode. That was fun for a day, but then it got boring. I didn't feel like playing a mafia game where I'm not doing shit, and would feel even worse if I somehow won because of it. Around the same time, the heat finally started coming back from my Day 1 shenanigans (and attitude thereafter), which I knew would eventually happen anyway. I explained my logic, backed myself up with behavior in other games. But I decided I will try to do normal civilian mafia things and start looking around. Not only has that blown up in my face, but whoever the mafia is really enjoys killing off the players I think are bad.

Would you rather I just have kept doing jack-shit? Would you have preferred if I kept coasting along while the civilians keep getting lynched? I too am tired of the civilians always losing on this site, which is part of the reason I decided to change my own tune. I realize civilians do lose sometimes because of the shit that I pull, and I apologize for that. I also realize that civilians lose sometimes because I'm a terrible civilian. I wish there was something I could do about that. But I am still annoyed when players call my cases stupid, or take shots at my ability. I have been trying here the past couple day phases, which is more than can be said for some of you. But it's probably already too late for that anyway.

So I ask you, do you want my help or not? If you don't, just lynch me or leave me alone, or do whatever it is you think is best for you.

A few hugs. That was nice.

[Marmot]

Town - I think MM and DH are baddies together.

Regardless, even if Mac and everyone else thinks I'm distancing, can we PLEASE lynch MM tomorrow?

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

Ask yourselves. Why has DH barely mentioned MM since Dom's flip? Why is he so against Sorsha voting for Boom, yet doesn't "grill" MM the same way?

Why is MM pretending to not know what questions I had about DH, despite him and myself going back and forth here? Is MM unable to read certain parts of posts?

Blah

Why is Matt tunnelling on MM?

Get out of town.

[Ricochet]

[DharmaHelper]

Matt, are you joking?

[DharmaHelper]

Hmmm. Rereading DH, it's funny.

Votes LC on account of Boom's "info".

When LC flips, immediately calls out Boom for being bad, calls him a liar, asks him to please go and get lynched, yet doesn't vote him yesterday.

When Boom flips, immediately goes after Sorsha for being a baddie because she voted him.

I mean wtf.

To anyone who has DH as a civ read...why?

That being said, I don't want to get distracted. Can we please lynch the fuck out of MM tomorrow? Thankies!

[DrWilgy]

Wilgy confirmed mafia RIP

Why does this confirm me as mafia DH?

Also... Boomslang why?

M
Because it does. RIP.

Pretty massive fucking coincidence the Boomtrain came out of nowhere to save ya aint it RIP tell your team I said RIP

DH, you realize what you are saying don't you? If the boomtrain is a thing, then it consisted of two players trying to lynch a baddie and survive, Sorsha, and someone who left his vote there for a half day.

Wow... I believed you were civ and tried to help you and now you're going to try to flip this on me?

Darling, calm down! I mentioned your name yes, but I didn't want to flip anything on you. DH is right though, your reactions are quite volatile. Hey DH what do you think about Drac? why is it Sorsha and I that are on a temmie here? Drac's vote was weird enough, he followed Mac ditching credibility, and was here to post only moment's after the Boomslang flip. Also something that's weird, was his response: (I edited because the question mark was driving me bonkers)

RIP Boomslang. I regret moving my vote.

It wasn't that he wasn't here to not move his vote, it's that he regretted moving it off of me and onto Boomslang. Why would Drac ditch credibility and go "Hey I'm following Mac" only to take it after the flip? It's a weird flip here. I think Drac knew what he was doing and was content with either result... but I'm reading his actions from the POV of an evil Sith Lord and that should be taken into account.

Oh, also his buddying of you going into this phase seems odd as well. It's almost as if he has what he wants and is willing to just let you go bonkers with it.

Boomslang was:

Frans - Guess Who?~CIVVIE
Each Night, choose someone who may only ask yes or no questions the next Day

Fuck you, Boomslang.

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I kek'd

MM... What role are you? what makes the Marmot confident enough to go into 2 ties?

In regards to players I think had BTSC, the only ones I can name are Bea and Mac, but it was based upon what they had stated in the thread. I had thought for a moment that it was Bea, Mac, and DH but then came along LC going "Nope nope nope nope nope"

I have to say, I almost entirely dislike and suspect Wilgy for his game. His THM meta was being more helpful (although highly vague/random in that regard) than fluffing, but he has the habit to change his style, so it doesn't weigh in any way. The mentions that exist regarding confirmed baddies feel rotten; his sig suss'ing was the first real contribution he had in the first two Days and it now feels like spraypaint, considering he questioned sig suspicions and interactions with both zebra and LoRab. The LoRab connection culminates in him switching from LoRab on D3.5, very last second, without knowing that Golden compensated by recreating the four-way tie; it'd be very balls to the walls from him as her teamie, but together with everything else, it looks real bad.
Can you blame me? LoRab's name was being tossed around like crazy, I just thought Sig was ok with riding that boat considering he hadn't mentioned her before. If it helps negate a LoRab connection in your head, I was the one who broke the 3 way tie in favor of her lynch. If what you are implying is true, that means I broke the tie towards her death, with the plan in mind to break the tie again saving her. I just wanted to break the tie away from JJJ and FZ, no more, no less!

His civ and scum reads changed more frequent than underwear. His Dom votes are weaksauce. He went on and off in treating JJJ until he suddenly went into a really heavy, tense spat session with him end of D5. I still don't get how D7 makes him look "civvie": sure, it was pure self-defense and self-interest from a point onward, but that's, at best, not alignment indicative.
I wasn't here. I was pinged by Dom, but I still can't remember why. I saw something of JJJ that triggered my radar heavily, that's all that happened there. D7 makes me look "civvie"? who stated that?

The only pause in my reads was picking up his claim that he had BTSC with LC on D2 and that he shared common distrust with him over DH. Thing is, that means DH only could have had BTSC with LC on D1, in order for LC to share his doubts with Wilgy a Day after; plus, Wilgy doesn't really starts to suss DH until way into D6 and D7. Finally, for a former LC chat partner, he missed voting on a crucial D6 for LC, which is, at best, very sloppy civvie investment from Wilgy. Then again, it doesn't inspire much belief that Wilgy's investment is civ, does it?
Agian, I wasn't here. Also, a majority of the players that I think had BTSC with LC was determined by indicators in the thread and LC's comment on whom to trust. There's a reason why he pointed out DH as the one LC defender who LC had no idea why.

I understand why you see me as bad Papryco, but I'm not. I'm sorry my contributions have been weak, but It's for no reason other than presence.

regardless, I have the weekend off and should be able to play. I don't plan on defending myself or fighting for survival anymore while I'm alive, I'd much rather lynch a baddie.

[Matt]

DH - No, I'm not joking. Are you asking lame questions in an attempt to get out of being caught?

DH - Answer me, please. Do you believe MM's claim? If so, does that mean you think Dom did not check him? If so, what do you make of Dom's post telling people to get a refund on his claim?

[Marmot]

I'm only roleclaiming if you give me chocolate.

[Ricochet]

MM... What role are you?

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