Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

[Marmot]

DH - No, I'm not joking. Are you asking lame questions in an attempt to get out of being caught?

DH - Answer me, please. Do you believe MM's claim? If so, does that mean you think Dom did not check him? If so, what do you make of Dom's post telling people to get a refund on his claim?

Dom could have checked me. I think that's perfectly plausible.

[Ricochet]

I'm only roleclaiming if you give me chocolate.

Are you fucking kidding me?

[DharmaHelper]

DH - No, I'm not joking. Are you asking lame questions in an attempt to get out of being caught?

DH - Answer me, please. Do you believe MM's claim? If so, does that mean you think Dom did not check him? If so, what do you make of Dom's post telling people to get a refund on his claim?

Caught doing what? MM has claimed independent, neutral, w/e, I have bigger mafia fish to fry. What's difficult to believe about that? Do you want to lynch Sorsha and/or Wilgy or what?

[Draconus]

Just one to address something you mentioned above this question a few times. This will be in OT green because I don't want it to seem like I'm pandering to anyone's emotions, so feel free to ignore. Just know that it explains my absence and lack-luster participation: The start of this game coincided with the start of 2015 year-end close for my job. I'm a staff accountant. This is our busiest and most mentally draining time of the year, and on some nights I was here working late into the evening. We literally just finished closing for the year today. And on Monday we start January month-end close. So yeah, I'll be coming in to work on Saturday to start prep work Anywho, realistically I should have asked for a replacement for this game early on. I did not, though because this will be the last full game I play for awhile. I may pop in for speed games every now and then, but other than that I need to focus on rl stuffs. Fear not, though, I will still be around to try and stay in touch with my mafia buddies in the OT forums, AND I will be trying to get my feet wet as a host. I currently have a Heist laid out and in queue that, if all goes well, I will turn into a full game full of all sorts of roll chaos. (Seriously, it's a bit too ambitious for my second game ). But anyways, that's the drawn out version of why I haven't been around that much.

1) After Day 1, you posited that you were cursed in order to not get your D1 info out in the open properly (that you announced since N0). I don't think I remember you actually revealing what your D1 info would have been.

I didn't have any info, but I did say that I was going to give a reason for my vote WHEN I voted. That's why I was theorizing that I had been cursed at that point. Thanks for that, Boom -_- But apparently I never did give you a reason for my vote, Rico, and for that I am very sorry. It just totally slipped my mind after the fact. The reason I did vote for you was because you seemed to be in desperate want of attention. So much so that you were willing to flood the thread with what I perceived to be complete nonsense. It was all so distracting, that I couldn't really focus on anything else. So, instead of self-voting, I decided that I would vote for you. I switched my vote a couple of times, because I started to buy into the theory that you were attracting attention because you wanted to get votes. This theory bounced around in my head for quite some time before I finally shook it off and put my vote back on you. I'm sorry if this isn't a satisfying answer, but it really is all that I had at the time.

[Marmot]

MM... What role are you?

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*No role outing of others
*No info dumping~ which means no night results, no info gleaned via BTS, etc.
*This game is closed set up. This allows for limited role claiming. But be careful about that, and do NOT involve other people in your claim.

[DrWilgy]

Don't be coy Draconus there is a difference between me saying I think he has a point and you gargling his grapefruits.

Way to blow the situation out of proportion. For one, I wasn't saying that you saying he has a point makes you look bad... at all. In fact, I was only trying to get you to say Why you think he has a point. I don't agree with DH's interpretation of the Wilgy/Sorsha posts, but I agree with the conclusion. What I got out of Sorsha's response was that Wilgy caught his teammate off guard. My interpretation of Sorsha's reply: "Wait. Are you seriously busing me right now? I haven't done anything to you all game!"

Anyway, 2 can play at your game.

DH and FZ are strong civ reads.

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Great way to give DH a reach-around handy while whispering "Who's a good civ?" into his ear. Ya fuckin' hypocrite.

Also, the fact that you have Wilgy as dark green makes me uneasy. Having Sorsha as yellow and saying DH has a "good point" about her feels like distancing while getting the bus ready if necessary.

And you don't think that we'd take that to BTSC?

Linki: I was joking!!! I don't want MM to Roleclaim, it'll probably look like this anyways -

Spoiler: show

Marmot - Independent
Marmot gives 0 fucks, he can adjust the votes on him to whatever he pleases. Immune to NK and Curses.

[Matt]

DH - No, I'm not joking. Are you asking lame questions in an attempt to get out of being caught?

DH - Answer me, please. Do you believe MM's claim? If so, does that mean you think Dom did not check him? If so, what do you make of Dom's post telling people to get a refund on his claim?

Caught doing what? MM has claimed independent, neutral, w/e, I have bigger mafia fish to fry. What's difficult to believe about that? Do you want to lynch Sorsha and/or Wilgy or what?

Why are you evading my questions?

What do you make of the following quote?

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

Furthermore, why did you jump all over Sorsha's shit after Boom flipped, but didn't mention MM? Why?

[DharmaHelper]

Town - I think MM and DH are baddies together.

Regardless, even if Mac and everyone else thinks I'm distancing, can we PLEASE lynch MM tomorrow?

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

Ask yourselves. Why has DH barely mentioned MM since Dom's flip? Why is he so against Sorsha voting for Boom, yet doesn't "grill" MM the same way?

Why is MM pretending to not know what questions I had about DH, despite him and myself going back and forth here? Is MM unable to read certain parts of posts?

Blah

Ask yourselves, why has Matt shifted his attentions to me after I began scrutinizing Sorsha and Dr Wilgy?

Ask yourselves.

[DrWilgy]

Town - I think MM and DH are baddies together.

Regardless, even if Mac and everyone else thinks I'm distancing, can we PLEASE lynch MM tomorrow?

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

Ask yourselves. Why has DH barely mentioned MM since Dom's flip? Why is he so against Sorsha voting for Boom, yet doesn't "grill" MM the same way?

Why is MM pretending to not know what questions I had about DH, despite him and myself going back and forth here? Is MM unable to read certain parts of posts?

Blah

Ask yourselves, why has Matt shifted his attentions to me after I began scrutinizing Sorsha and Dr Wilgy?

Ask yourselves.

Inb4 Sorsha and Matt are temmies

[Ricochet]

I have to say, I almost entirely dislike and suspect Wilgy for his game. His THM meta was being more helpful (although highly vague/random in that regard) than fluffing, but he has the habit to change his style, so it doesn't weigh in any way. The mentions that exist regarding confirmed baddies feel rotten; his sig suss'ing was the first real contribution he had in the first two Days and it now feels like spraypaint, considering he questioned sig suspicions and interactions with both zebra and LoRab. The LoRab connection culminates in him switching from LoRab on D3.5, very last second, without knowing that Golden compensated by recreating the four-way tie; it'd be very balls to the walls from him as her teamie, but together with everything else, it looks real bad.
Can you blame me? LoRab's name was being tossed around like crazy, I just thought Sig was ok with riding that boat considering he hadn't mentioned her before. If it helps negate a LoRab connection in your head, I was the one who broke the 3 way tie in favor of her lynch. If what you are implying is true, that means I broke the tie towards her death, with the plan in mind to break the tie again saving her. I just wanted to break the tie away from JJJ and FZ, no more, no less!

Oh. Well, noted, I guess. The tie was still far away from resolved, when you first broke the tie.

His civ and scum reads changed more frequent than underwear. His Dom votes are weaksauce. He went on and off in treating JJJ until he suddenly went into a really heavy, tense spat session with him end of D5. I still don't get how D7 makes him look "civvie": sure, it was pure self-defense and self-interest from a point onward, but that's, at best, not alignment indicative.
I wasn't here. I was pinged by Dom, but I still can't remember why.

Can't help you there.

I saw something of JJJ that triggered my radar heavily, that's all that happened there. D7 makes me look "civvie"? who stated that?

Mac, I think?

The only pause in my reads was picking up his claim that he had BTSC with LC on D2 and that he shared common distrust with him over DH. Thing is, that means DH only could have had BTSC with LC on D1, in order for LC to share his doubts with Wilgy a Day after; plus, Wilgy doesn't really starts to suss DH until way into D6 and D7. Finally, for a former LC chat partner, he missed voting on a crucial D6 for LC, which is, at best, very sloppy civvie investment from Wilgy. Then again, it doesn't inspire much belief that Wilgy's investment is civ, does it?
Agian, I wasn't here. Also, a majority of the players that I think had BTSC with LC was determined by indicators in the thread and LC's comment on whom to trust. There's a reason why he pointed out DH as the one LC defender who LC had no idea why.

Who do you think had BTSC with LC? Also, can you link me up with the post in which LC is confused by DH defending him, indicating it's not due to having had BTSC?

I understand why you see me as bad Papryco, but I'm not. I'm sorry my contributions have been weak, but It's for no reason other than presence.

regardless, I have the weekend off and should be able to play. I don't plan on defending myself or fighting for survival anymore while I'm alive, I'd much rather lynch a baddie.

[DharmaHelper]

DH - No, I'm not joking. Are you asking lame questions in an attempt to get out of being caught?

DH - Answer me, please. Do you believe MM's claim? If so, does that mean you think Dom did not check him? If so, what do you make of Dom's post telling people to get a refund on his claim?

Caught doing what? MM has claimed independent, neutral, w/e, I have bigger mafia fish to fry. What's difficult to believe about that? Do you want to lynch Sorsha and/or Wilgy or what?

Why are you evading my questions?

What do you make of the following quote?

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

Furthermore, why did you jump all over Sorsha's shit after Boom flipped, but didn't mention MM? Why?

I haven't been.

I don't care.

Because Sorsha is mafia and MM is neutral

[Ricochet]

effin color tags man EBWOP

I have to say, I almost entirely dislike and suspect Wilgy for his game. His THM meta was being more helpful (although highly vague/random in that regard) than fluffing, but he has the habit to change his style, so it doesn't weigh in any way. The mentions that exist regarding confirmed baddies feel rotten; his sig suss'ing was the first real contribution he had in the first two Days and it now feels like spraypaint, considering he questioned sig suspicions and interactions with both zebra and LoRab. The LoRab connection culminates in him switching from LoRab on D3.5, very last second, without knowing that Golden compensated by recreating the four-way tie; it'd be very balls to the walls from him as her teamie, but together with everything else, it looks real bad.
Can you blame me? LoRab's name was being tossed around like crazy, I just thought Sig was ok with riding that boat considering he hadn't mentioned her before. If it helps negate a LoRab connection in your head, I was the one who broke the 3 way tie in favor of her lynch. If what you are implying is true, that means I broke the tie towards her death, with the plan in mind to break the tie again saving her. I just wanted to break the tie away from JJJ and FZ, no more, no less!

Oh. Well, noted, I guess. The tie was still far away from resolved, when you first broke the tie.

His civ and scum reads changed more frequent than underwear. His Dom votes are weaksauce. He went on and off in treating JJJ until he suddenly went into a really heavy, tense spat session with him end of D5. I still don't get how D7 makes him look "civvie": sure, it was pure self-defense and self-interest from a point onward, but that's, at best, not alignment indicative.
I wasn't here. I was pinged by Dom, but I still can't remember why.

Can't help you there.

I saw something of JJJ that triggered my radar heavily, that's all that happened there. D7 makes me look "civvie"? who stated that?

Mac, I think?

The only pause in my reads was picking up his claim that he had BTSC with LC on D2 and that he shared common distrust with him over DH. Thing is, that means DH only could have had BTSC with LC on D1, in order for LC to share his doubts with Wilgy a Day after; plus, Wilgy doesn't really starts to suss DH until way into D6 and D7. Finally, for a former LC chat partner, he missed voting on a crucial D6 for LC, which is, at best, very sloppy civvie investment from Wilgy. Then again, it doesn't inspire much belief that Wilgy's investment is civ, does it?
Agian, I wasn't here. Also, a majority of the players that I think had BTSC with LC was determined by indicators in the thread and LC's comment on whom to trust. There's a reason why he pointed out DH as the one LC defender who LC had no idea why.

Who do you think had BTSC with LC? Also, can you link me up with the post in which LC is confused by DH defending him, indicating it's not due to having had BTSC?

I understand why you see me as bad Papryco, but I'm not. I'm sorry my contributions have been weak, but It's for no reason other than presence.

regardless, I have the weekend off and should be able to play. I don't plan on defending myself or fighting for survival anymore while I'm alive, I'd much rather lynch a baddie.

[Ricochet]

Please, God, I'll start believing in you, just don't have DH actually be bad in this Champies.

[Matt]

You don't care about Dom's quote? Is that really what you just said?

Yup, let's lynch MM tomorrow, followed by a swift lynch of DH please. Thank you.

[S~V~S]

MM... What role are you?

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THIS^^^^

People who were told they couldn't vote were told they were allowed to reveal it. The bits in the rules about not revealing Night PM stuff is aimed at not revealing things about *other people* that you may learn by targeting them at night. If I could go back & tell them NOT to reveal it, I would. But once you let the cat out of the bag, it's hard to put him back in.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled carnage.

[Marmot]

This game is definitely starting to divide into parties as we're winding down.

[DrWilgy]

My suspects:
Draconus
FZ.
Boomslang
Dom
DharmaHelper
Metalmarsh

Some old, some new. DH, I do have a bit of a bad feeling from your support out there, I'm sorry to say. Metalmarsh, a bit of a gut feel.

It was this one right here, that kinda served as the indicator, nor do I ever see indication of a DH-LC BTSC forming based on LC's discussions in the thread with him past this point.

The only two that I'm pretty dosh darn doodlin sure of chatting with the chatterbox are Mac and Bea. I also think LC would've mentioned something if this were not the case.

[DharmaHelper]

You don't care about Dom's quote? Is that really what you just said?

Yup, let's lynch MM tomorrow, followed by a swift lynch of DH please. Thank you.

Why are you advocating we lynch a neutral m8.

[DrWilgy]

MM... What role are you?

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THIS^^^^

People who were told they couldn't vote were told they were allowed to reveal it. The bits in the rules about not revealing Night PM stuff is aimed at not revealing things about *other people* that you may learn by targeting them at night. If I could go back & tell them NOT to reveal it, I would. But once you let the cat out of the bag, it's hard to put him back in.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled carnage.

Wasn't me

[Ricochet]

You don't care about Dom's quote? Is that really what you just said?

Yup, let's lynch MM tomorrow, followed by a swift lynch of DH please. Thank you.

or you, if MM flips neutral

linki: Ah, ok. But thing is, having BTSC with the chatterbox doesn't automatically imply the chatterbox cleared you of being a baddie.

[Marmot]

Marmot would like to join your party. What will you do?

• a) add him to your party.
  b) lynch that marmot now
  c) feed him to a bear
  d) use magic on him

[Ricochet]

You don't care about Dom's quote? Is that really what you just said?

Yup, let's lynch MM tomorrow, followed by a swift lynch of DH please. Thank you.

Why are you advocating we lynch a neutral m8.

He's advocating lynching a baddie whose neutral claim he feels Dom broke apart.

[DharmaHelper]

You don't care about Dom's quote? Is that really what you just said?

Yup, let's lynch MM tomorrow, followed by a swift lynch of DH please. Thank you.

Why are you advocating we lynch a neutral m8.

He's advocating lynching a baddie whose neutral claim he feels Dom broke apart.

Oh.

Well I think MM is neutral and would rather lynch Sorsha.

[juliets]

Thanks SVS for clearing that up.

MM, you seem to be admitting now that you are an Indy if checked and not a neutral as you claimed earlier. Why did you make such a big deal about not being indy but instead being neutral when you were indeed indy? The Intro to Mafia on the site even says there are three types of roles, civs, mafia and independents - not neutrals.

wow lots of linki

[Matt]

You don't care about Dom's quote? Is that really what you just said?

Yup, let's lynch MM tomorrow, followed by a swift lynch of DH please. Thank you.

Why are you advocating we lynch a baddie and his partner m8.

Fixed

Linki - Sweet Rico. If MM flips indy/neutral, lynch me. If MM flips bad, I must be distancing so lynch me. Or shit, wait, I'm Wilgy/Sorsha's teamie. Better lynch me.

Either way, can we lynch MM tomorrow? Thanks!

Linki - Yah DH because you "don't care" about what the role checker had to say.

[Draconus]

RIP Boomslang. I regret moving my vote.

It wasn't that he wasn't here to not move his vote, it's that he regretted moving it off of me and onto Boomslang. Why would Drac ditch credibility and go "Hey I'm following Mac" only to take it after the flip? It's a weird flip here. I think Drac knew what he was doing and was content with either result... but I'm reading his actions from the POV of an evil Sith Lord and that should be taken into account.

Don't go slinging shit around Dr. Weasel. As a matter of fact I did NOT have time to come back and change my vote. Read what I've had to say recently about being busy. I wasn't here for any of the 3-way tie bull shit and I couldn't make time for the thread until after Day had ended. I WAS WORKING MY ASS OFF.
FYI This was the last post I had time for that Day:

Mac and Drac (ha!) - Why are you voting Boomslang?

After looking through his ISO again, I firmly believe my theory is correct. On Days 4 and 5, Boom goes after Tranq, votes him first both days, and when Tranq dies, Boom says "I done messed up".

Why does Boom keep messing up?

I also completely missed Matt's question which was directly after this post.
MATT: My answer to you is that MM is another red for me because of Dom's post.

Oh, also his buddying of you going into this phase seems odd as well. It's almost as if he has what he wants and is willing to just let you go bonkers with it.

The fuck does this even mean?

Don't be coy Draconus there is a difference between me saying I think he has a point and you gargling his grapefruits.

Way to blow the situation out of proportion. For one, I wasn't saying that you saying he has a point makes you look bad... at all. In fact, I was only trying to get you to say Why you think he has a point. I don't agree with DH's interpretation of the Wilgy/Sorsha posts, but I agree with the conclusion. What I got out of Sorsha's response was that Wilgy caught his teammate off guard. My interpretation of Sorsha's reply: "Wait. Are you seriously busing me right now? I haven't done anything to you all game!"

Anyway, 2 can play at your game.

DH and FZ are strong civ reads.

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Great way to give DH a reach-around handy while whispering "Who's a good civ?" into his ear. Ya fuckin' hypocrite.

Also, the fact that you have Wilgy as dark green makes me uneasy. Having Sorsha as yellow and saying DH has a "good point" about her feels like distancing while getting the bus ready if necessary.

And you don't think that we'd take that to BTSC?

You're right, you could have taken it to btsc. But I theorize that Sorsha read the thread before checking the btsc thread. If I haven't seen before it wouldn't be a theory for me.


Ugh. Linkitis from Hell. I've spent way too much time on these 2 posts already. Got to work now. BBL.

[DharmaHelper]

You don't care about Dom's quote? Is that really what you just said?

Yup, let's lynch MM tomorrow, followed by a swift lynch of DH please. Thank you.

Why are you advocating we lynch a baddie and his partner m8.

Fixed

Linki - Sweet Rico. If MM flips indy/neutral, lynch me. If MM flips bad, I must be distancing so lynch me. Or shit, wait, I'm Wilgy/Sorsha's teamie. Better lynch me.

Either way, can we lynch MM tomorrow? Thanks!

Linki - Yah DH because you "don't care" about what the role checker had to say.

I don't care about that specific quote, no. I don't think it has any relevance.

[Ricochet]

Marmot would like to join your party. What will you do?

• a) add him to your party.
  b) lynch that marmot now
  c) feed him to a bear
  d) use magic on him

MIKAMI

Your God is uhm... dead... and apparently been retconned into a civilian.

You are hereby given a new task by SAKUJO-ing the hell out of MM so we can get on with our Mafia.

DO IT

[Ricochet]

You don't care about Dom's quote? Is that really what you just said?

Yup, let's lynch MM tomorrow, followed by a swift lynch of DH please. Thank you.

Why are you advocating we lynch a neutral m8.

He's advocating lynching a baddie whose neutral claim he feels Dom broke apart.

Oh.

Well I think MM is neutral and would rather lynch Sorsha.

What do you make of MM claiming chocolate-addict man?

[DharmaHelper]

You don't care about Dom's quote? Is that really what you just said?

Yup, let's lynch MM tomorrow, followed by a swift lynch of DH please. Thank you.

Why are you advocating we lynch a neutral m8.

He's advocating lynching a baddie whose neutral claim he feels Dom broke apart.

Oh.

Well I think MM is neutral and would rather lynch Sorsha.

What do you make of MM claiming chocolate-addict man?

I don't care.

[DrWilgy]

It's true, chatting with chatterbox doesn't, but it's like I stated previous, I think LC's smart enough to pick up on some leads based on that role. I'll go back over Bea and see if there's anything that changes my mind though.

DH!! Sorsha and I aren't temmie's!

Linki: Drac, so why then... were you back in 20 min and your response was "WHOOPS! shouldn't have changed my vote!" instead of "Sorry I was l8 fam." I don't really think you regret not moving your vote, especially when that vote was placed on the pretense of "Mac told me so." Also, doesn't that make that a pretty weak theory?

Brb getting groceries

[Ricochet]

1) After Day 1, you posited that you were cursed in order to not get your D1 info out in the open properly (that you announced since N0). I don't think I remember you actually revealing what your D1 info would have been.

I didn't have any info, but I did say that I was going to give a reason for my vote WHEN I voted. That's why I was theorizing that I had been cursed at that point. Thanks for that, Boom -_- But apparently I never did give you a reason for my vote, Rico, and for that I am very sorry. It just totally slipped my mind after the fact. The reason I did vote for you was because you seemed to be in desperate want of attention. So much so that you were willing to flood the thread with what I perceived to be complete nonsense. It was all so distracting, that I couldn't really focus on anything else. So, instead of self-voting, I decided that I would vote for you. I switched my vote a couple of times, because I started to buy into the theory that you were attracting attention because you wanted to get votes. This theory bounced around in my head for quite some time before I finally shook it off and put my vote back on you. I'm sorry if this isn't a satisfying answer, but it really is all that I had at the time.

So wait, this were the thoughts you were preparing to write going into D1, before being cursed, or what? That was what I asked above, not why you lynched me. I wanted that, after all.

[Ricochet]

You don't care about Dom's quote? Is that really what you just said?

Yup, let's lynch MM tomorrow, followed by a swift lynch of DH please. Thank you.

Why are you advocating we lynch a neutral m8.

He's advocating lynching a baddie whose neutral claim he feels Dom broke apart.

Oh.

Well I think MM is neutral and would rather lynch Sorsha.

What do you make of MM claiming chocolate-addict man?

I don't care.

[DharmaHelper]

I think it's obvious that Sorsha is bad.

[juliets]

I think it's obvious that Sorsha is bad.

Can you point out anything specific that makes it obvious she is bad?

[DharmaHelper]

I think it's obvious that Sorsha is bad.

Can you point out anything specific that makes it obvious she is bad?

I already....have?

[juliets]

I think it's obvious that Sorsha is bad.

Can you point out anything specific that makes it obvious she is bad?

I already....have?

Sorry, I must have read it and forgotten it. I'll go back through your posts.

[Ricochet]

Well, we can give it a go. It's not like I have any faith left in civvies (and by default, me) winning this game. With just zebra and LoRab out of the way, I find it near impossible to make head or tails of who is pushing cases genuinely and who is spinning them, the way discussions are carried out, tbh.

We can just as well give it a go with Wilgy. He drew Sorsha into the mislynch yesterDay.

[Matt]

Gotta get ready for work, town. In case MM/DH decide to kill me tonight and then WIFOM the shit out of you...

I don't know about you guys, but I never bought the narrative that Marsh is *neutral*. I suggest you all find your receipts and head to the nearest customer service desk.

That quote above, is from a role checker. On day 6. AFTER Day/Night 5, when he was getting into it with MM. Just FYI

Peace

[Draconus]

1) After Day 1, you posited that you were cursed in order to not get your D1 info out in the open properly (that you announced since N0). I don't think I remember you actually revealing what your D1 info would have been.

I didn't have any info, but I did say that I was going to give a reason for my vote WHEN I voted. That's why I was theorizing that I had been cursed at that point. Thanks for that, Boom -_- But apparently I never did give you a reason for my vote, Rico, and for that I am very sorry. It just totally slipped my mind after the fact. The reason I did vote for you was because you seemed to be in desperate want of attention. So much so that you were willing to flood the thread with what I perceived to be complete nonsense. It was all so distracting, that I couldn't really focus on anything else. So, instead of self-voting, I decided that I would vote for you. I switched my vote a couple of times, because I started to buy into the theory that you were attracting attention because you wanted to get votes. This theory bounced around in my head for quite some time before I finally shook it off and put my vote back on you. I'm sorry if this isn't a satisfying answer, but it really is all that I had at the time.

So wait, this were the thoughts you were preparing to write going into D1, before being cursed, or what? That was what I asked above, not why you lynched me. I wanted that, after all.

Um. Yes. They are 1 and the same. I never said I had info to reveal. Never said I had a giant impressive case I wanted to present. I just got tired of sifting through your shit (no offense) and didn't feel like typing or reading too much more.

[Ricochet]

1) After Day 1, you posited that you were cursed in order to not get your D1 info out in the open properly (that you announced since N0). I don't think I remember you actually revealing what your D1 info would have been.

I didn't have any info, but I did say that I was going to give a reason for my vote WHEN I voted. That's why I was theorizing that I had been cursed at that point. Thanks for that, Boom -_- But apparently I never did give you a reason for my vote, Rico, and for that I am very sorry. It just totally slipped my mind after the fact. The reason I did vote for you was because you seemed to be in desperate want of attention. So much so that you were willing to flood the thread with what I perceived to be complete nonsense. It was all so distracting, that I couldn't really focus on anything else. So, instead of self-voting, I decided that I would vote for you. I switched my vote a couple of times, because I started to buy into the theory that you were attracting attention because you wanted to get votes. This theory bounced around in my head for quite some time before I finally shook it off and put my vote back on you. I'm sorry if this isn't a satisfying answer, but it really is all that I had at the time.

So wait, this were the thoughts you were preparing to write going into D1, before being cursed, or what? That was what I asked above, not why you lynched me. I wanted that, after all.

Um. Yes. They are 1 and the same. I never said I had info to reveal. Never said I had a giant impressive case I wanted to present. I just got tired of sifting through your shit (no offense) and didn't feel like typing or reading too much more.

Oh, ok, I never implied real info, I missued the word obviously in this context, I meant more like big reveal on "who you'd vote on" or something like that.

All clear now.

[Draconus]

Linki: Drac, so why then... were you back in 20 min and your response was "WHOOPS! shouldn't have changed my vote!" instead of "Sorry I was l8 fam." I don't really think you regret not moving your vote, especially when that vote was placed on the pretense of "Mac told me so." Also, doesn't that make that a pretty weak theory?

You're trying really hard to make me a lynch candidate. I see you Wilgy. Timing was coincidental. I had just gotten settled in at home and was exhausted when I opened the thread to read the result. "Whoops" completely belittles the tone and attitude behind my post. I'm getting a bit too irritated to focus right now (not to mention I'm typing this post from the bathroom stall) So I'll end on this note: the one I really wanted to lynch, was you, Wilgy. My vote staying on Boom was unintentional. End of discussion for me.

Linki Rico: cool Sorry to leave you hanging with that.

[DharmaHelper]

Linki: Drac, so why then... were you back in 20 min and your response was "WHOOPS! shouldn't have changed my vote!" instead of "Sorry I was l8 fam." I don't really think you regret not moving your vote, especially when that vote was placed on the pretense of "Mac told me so." Also, doesn't that make that a pretty weak theory?

You're trying really hard to make me a lynch candidate. I see you Wilgy. Timing was coincidental. I had just gotten settled in at home and was exhausted when I opened the thread to read the result. "Whoops" completely belittles the tone and attitude behind my post. I'm getting a bit too irritated to focus right now (not to mention I'm typing this post from the bathroom stall) So I'll end on this note: the one I really wanted to lynch, was you, Wilgy. My vote staying on Boom was unintentional. End of discussion for me.

Linki Rico: cool Sorry to leave you hanging with that.

[MacDougall]

@rico Draco went into lurk mode and I fell into too busy to do anything but fuck about mode. I back and lo and behold draco is pinging me again.

[MacDougall]

Linki Rico: cool Sorry to leave you hanging with that.

Buddy buddy buddy. Are you gonna offer rico a foot massage next?

[DrWilgy]

Linki: Drac, so why then... were you back in 20 min and your response was "WHOOPS! shouldn't have changed my vote!" instead of "Sorry I was l8 fam." I don't really think you regret not moving your vote, especially when that vote was placed on the pretense of "Mac told me so." Also, doesn't that make that a pretty weak theory?

You're trying really hard to make me a lynch candidate. I see you Wilgy. Timing was coincidental. I had just gotten settled in at home and was exhausted when I opened the thread to read the result. "Whoops" completely belittles the tone and attitude behind my post. I'm getting a bit too irritated to focus right now (not to mention I'm typing this post from the bathroom stall) So I'll end on this note: the one I really wanted to lynch, was you, Wilgy. My vote staying on Boom was unintentional. End of discussion for me.

Linki Rico: cool Sorry to leave you hanging with that.

Drac... You missed something. I can't make you a lynch candidate.

Also, that's some shit. Your response wasn't "I should've been there" it was "whoops" I can't belittle something that had little content. If you really wanted to lynch me, why didn't you? Why did you follow Mac?

Also also, please acknowledge the fact that your theory is weak if you aren't going to respond to that.

Also also also, DH did you respond to my questions about Drac?

[DharmaHelper]

Linki: Drac, so why then... were you back in 20 min and your response was "WHOOPS! shouldn't have changed my vote!" instead of "Sorry I was l8 fam." I don't really think you regret not moving your vote, especially when that vote was placed on the pretense of "Mac told me so." Also, doesn't that make that a pretty weak theory?

You're trying really hard to make me a lynch candidate. I see you Wilgy. Timing was coincidental. I had just gotten settled in at home and was exhausted when I opened the thread to read the result. "Whoops" completely belittles the tone and attitude behind my post. I'm getting a bit too irritated to focus right now (not to mention I'm typing this post from the bathroom stall) So I'll end on this note: the one I really wanted to lynch, was you, Wilgy. My vote staying on Boom was unintentional. End of discussion for me.

Linki Rico: cool Sorry to leave you hanging with that.

Drac... You missed something. I can't make you a lynch candidate.

Also, that's some shit. Your response wasn't "I should've been there" it was "whoops" I can't belittle something that had little content. If you really wanted to lynch me, why didn't you? Why did you follow Mac?

Also also, please acknowledge the fact that your theory is weak if you aren't going to respond to that.

Also also also, DH did you respond to my questions about Drac?

Which one was this? I've had a bunch of shit to respond to recently.

[DrWilgy]

This paragraph here along with recent events:

Hey DH what do you think about Drac? why is it Sorsha and I that are on a temmie here? Drac's vote was weird enough, he followed Mac ditching credibility, and was here to post only moment's after the Boomslang flip. Also something that's weird, was his response: (I edited because the question mark was driving me bonkers)

RIP Boomslang. I regret moving my vote.

It wasn't that he wasn't here to not move his vote, it's that he regretted moving it off of me and onto Boomslang. Why would Drac ditch credibility and go "Hey I'm following Mac" only to take it after the flip? It's a weird flip here. I think Drac knew what he was doing and was content with either result... but I'm reading his actions from the POV of an evil Sith Lord and that should be taken into account.

Oh, also his buddying of you going into this phase seems odd as well. It's almost as if he has what he wants and is willing to just let you go bonkers with it.

[DharmaHelper]

This paragraph here along with recent events:

Hey DH what do you think about Drac? why is it Sorsha and I that are on a temmie here? Drac's vote was weird enough, he followed Mac ditching credibility, and was here to post only moment's after the Boomslang flip. Also something that's weird, was his response: (I edited because the question mark was driving me bonkers)

RIP Boomslang. I regret moving my vote.

It wasn't that he wasn't here to not move his vote, it's that he regretted moving it off of me and onto Boomslang. Why would Drac ditch credibility and go "Hey I'm following Mac" only to take it after the flip? It's a weird flip here. I think Drac knew what he was doing and was content with either result... but I'm reading his actions from the POV of an evil Sith Lord and that should be taken into account.

Oh, also his buddying of you going into this phase seems odd as well. It's almost as if he has what he wants and is willing to just let you go bonkers with it.

His buddying of me as I said earlier is in direct contrast to his earlier interactions with me, which I don't like. I also don't understand the "I unintentionally left my vote on Boomslang" thing. I'd put him in the middle of my list right now. I want to lynch Sorsha first.

[Ricochet]

Oh man, this FZ recap writing is breaking me up. Three ISO pages and only D3.5.