Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

#8001

Yay I can talk, Thanks Eddie for making that not as bad as it could have been

I think Bubbles vote and limited posts are a bit too well informed. I know she says she was here in the 10 days between her posts, but I don't recall ever seeing her. Her post about Doms chattiness level was bizarre, as was her vote for me.

I need to do some more reading on Matt, I don't think he looks much like GOC Matt to me. The Derp Index is also telling for me; he has 477 posts with 23 derps so far in this game, an index of .05. In GOC he had 308 posts, with 34 derps, an index of .11, more than double. He was blendier in general there, only coming to full Mattness in endgame.

#8002

You're tracking Derps?

#8003

Golden wrote:I won't be voting Matt.

LoRab, DH, bubbles and dom are really the options, for me. I don't think Typh or Bullz are bad or Scarecrow.

Easy tiger.

#8004

My list isn't a list of possibilities as such. I took myself and MP out of it for obvious reasons. I think the Scarecrow, from my own experience and other reports, is someone who's been paying attention... so I'm comfortable ruling out ek/Eq/Bubbles/Bass. Dom and juliets I think are civs, I think Golden at least started civ, and I had a different role in mind for SVS though I could easily be wrong.

Matt had a good response for me so I'm alright with temporarily taking him off my list if nothing pops up (Dom, he was saying he needed MP's role dead, not that he was the Scarecrow).

Bullzeye was a little less convincing in his response, I haven't ISOd him yet but if he didn't give any other indication of being Scarecrow'd before he could just be saying that to be taken off the list.

Golden wasn't Bubbles a civ for sure? Why is it Typh and Bullz that you're defending now?

#8005

Dom wrote:You're tracking Derps?

No, I just searched his posts. I think it is a nervous tic, if you will. Now that I have pointed it out I think he will be more aware of it. But I think he tends to be more nervous when he's bad. So more nervousness, more nervous tics. I play with my hair when I am nervous, and I do it much less seldom when I am relaxed. Same principle.

#8006

Retaking the Mac voters thing.... which, I know, shame on me when it was so lame coming from DF. But looking at it from another angle: Matt, SVS, Bullz and Typhoony all voted for him after he outed himself. Matt claims he was asked to kill MP, so that's interesting.

Chances the Scarecrow would make people need Mac dead (as we know he did with Golden, it'd be helpful to know on what night) because he wanted him dead and not just to fuck around with us? Would he make others vote for him and then also jump in the wagon? SVS, where are you in this conversation?

#8007

But then again, they also all voted him before he outed himself. lol.

#8008

Enrique wrote:Retaking the Mac voters thing.... which, I know, shame on me when it was so lame coming from DF. But looking at it from another angle: Matt, SVS, Bullz and Typhoony all voted for him after he outed himself. Matt claims he was asked to kill MP, so that's interesting.

Chances the Scarecrow would make people need Mac dead (as we know he did with Golden, it'd be helpful to know on what night) because he wanted him dead and not just to fuck around with us? Would he make others vote for him and then also jump in the wagon? SVS, where are you in this conversation?

I did not catch the hints until they were pointed out at me. I felt he was bad to the point that I felt he could have been fake hinting, even after the whole role hinting conversation first started.

No one made me need Mac dead, if that is what you are asking me.

#8009

Who would be your best guess for the Scarecrow, SVS?

Also how do we feel about Matt casting doubt on MP instead of trying to hunt the Scarecrow?

#8010

Enrique wrote:Who would be your best guess for the Scarecrow, SVS?

Also how do we feel about Matt casting doubt on MP instead of trying to hunt the Scarecrow?

I have no clue. It isn't me, if that is what you are asking; I am neither bad nor inmate. I am not overly good at role assignment and I don't bother with it much unless it mskes a difference to me specifically, and even then I am the suck at it unless I have people to discuss it with, which in this game I do not.

#8011

i misclicked, please fix plox

#8012

S~V~S wrote:
Enrique wrote:Who would be your best guess for the Scarecrow, SVS?

Also how do we feel about Matt casting doubt on MP instead of trying to hunt the Scarecrow?
I have no clue. It isn't me, if that is what you are asking; I am neither bad nor inmate. I am not overly good at role assignment and I don't bother with it much unless it mskes a difference to me specifically, and even then I am the suck at it unless I have people to discuss it with, which in this game I do not.

I missed the second part of this. Since I tend to view Matt as a conspiracy theorist, I also am not surprised when he has issues letting go of a theory. But it is an interesting point about him, although having just hosted him bad I am seeing a very different person in this game and since I tend to be a tone reader rather than a logic reader, that carries weight for me.

GTH, I am neutral about Matt. I suppose he could be an inmate, although which one, I have no clue. I don't think he is bad, though.

#8013

Enrique why do you think Dom / Golden / Juliets were given civ roles?

Also death to sprityo!

#8014

Also Golden Bubbles wasn't bad in AWR, she was an sk/indy that could turn civ

#8015

Typhoony, do you think lynching Scarecrow should be on our agenda?

#8016

#8017

Do you have ideas for who Scarecrow might be?

#8018

I have no concrete idea as to who it could be.

Not the people who haven't been here at all. Not MP.
For now I'm willing to take out of my list the people that have said before that they have been scarecrowed. I don't know who that are and I don't have time to look for it, but I'm sure somebody will.

That leaves you with a group of people that could be the Scarecrow.

#8019

Who do you think it is? You've only been asking others and haven't given your own opinion.

#8020

That's because I have no flipping clue.

#8021

Enrique wrote: Bullzeye was a little less convincing in his response, I haven't ISOd him yet but if he didn't give any other indication of being Scarecrow'd before he could just be saying that to be taken off the list.

Which response is this? I was Scarecrowed on Night Eight. I didn't mention anything before now because I'm not typically the sort of player to do so, but now that it's in my best interests to say so, I am doing.

#8022

Also I don't recall ever voting for Mac after he voted for himself. I count him outing himself as the point where he quoted the "breadcrumb" and erased any doubt as to what he meant. After that I gave up voting for him. Maybe I'm wrong but I definitely don't remember voting him after that. Also I'd like to point out nobody ever compelled me to vote for Mac. I did it because I thought he was bad.

#8023

EBWOP: voted for himself = outed himself. I've just got in from work, brain is fried.

#8024

Bullz, who's bad?

#8025

#8026

Bullzeye wrote:You.

This is your first mention of me in my memory other than your investigation into bubbles.
Please elaborate.

#8027

I want to make clear that the list excluding Golden etc was my list. I'm not writing them off completely, but I doubt it's them and think that one of the others is the Scarecrow.

I wasn't accusing you of anything either, SVS. Legitimately wanted to know. You and Bullz are pretty in the clear right now, my biggest suspect for the Scarecrow is Typhoony and then I guess DH.

#8028

Reason?

#8029

Dom wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:You.
This is your first mention of me in my memory other than your investigation into bubbles.
Please elaborate.

I just wanted to put you on the spot and see what you'd say. I don't actually suspect you. Ultimately, I've ruled out low posters (for the time being - I don't think any of them were around to have killed Mac). I think Golden is good and have reasonably good vibes from LoRab. Everyone else is fair game as far as I'm concerned and I'd definitely like to lynch Scarecrow today if possible. Wouldn't cry if we lynched a baddie instead though.

#8030

I'd also still like to know why you those peeps are civs

#8031

Oh I guess I've ruled out MP as well. Kinda forgot he was even alive.

#8032

Bullzeye wrote:
Dom wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:You.
This is your first mention of me in my memory other than your investigation into bubbles.
Please elaborate.
I just wanted to put you on the spot and see what you'd say. I don't actually suspect you. Ultimately, I've ruled out low posters (for the time being - I don't think any of them were around to have killed Mac). I think Golden is good and have reasonably good vibes from LoRab. Everyone else is fair game as far as I'm concerned and I'd definitely like to lynch Scarecrow today if possible. Wouldn't cry if we lynched a baddie instead though.

So, Bubbles, you think is civ?

Just wondering, Bullz, are you fully reading the thread?

#8033

Typhoony wrote:Reason?

I'd like one too.

#8034

Reason = I believe them.

#8035

Dom wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Dom wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:You.
This is your first mention of me in my memory other than your investigation into bubbles.
Please elaborate.
I just wanted to put you on the spot and see what you'd say. I don't actually suspect you. Ultimately, I've ruled out low posters (for the time being - I don't think any of them were around to have killed Mac). I think Golden is good and have reasonably good vibes from LoRab. Everyone else is fair game as far as I'm concerned and I'd definitely like to lynch Scarecrow today if possible. Wouldn't cry if we lynched a baddie instead though.
So, Bubbles, you think is civ?

Just wondering, Bullz, are you fully reading the thread?

I'm not convinced she is but I doubt she was around to send in the kill is all. We could lynch her today for all I care but I feel like it's way too easy for so many of the baddies to be low posters. Surely one or two are actually playing.

#8036

What do you guys think about Matt actually going after MP instead of hunting the Scarecrow? I thought that was a good observation and not very civvie-minded to try to manipulate the thread like that.

#8037

I suggest you read the rules to find out that Bubbles doesn't have to have been around to kill someone if her teammate is alive.

#8038

Enrique wrote:What do you guys think about Matt actually going after MP instead of hunting the Scarecrow? I thought that was a good observation and not very civvie-minded to try to manipulate the thread like that.

I'm confused as to what that all meant so I was hoping Matt would come in and offer some clarification.

#8039

Dom wrote:I suggest you read the rules to find out that Bubbles doesn't have to have been around to kill someone if her teammate is alive.

Fine, maybe she's bad. I've been on the fence about her since she became a topic of conversation. Regardless, as it has been pointed out there's no baddie kill tonight, today is the perfect time to go after Scarecrow. I intend to pursue that and so I probably won't end up voting for Bubbles today.

#8040

Dom wrote:Matt, why do you think MP is Scarecrow?

Golden, I'm not the Scarecrow. What makes you able to eliminate so many players?

I don't think they are mafia. Some of those I've eliminated could be the scarecrow.

#8041

Ok who has claimed to have been Scarecrowed before today and can you link me to the post please? Thanks

#8042

I'm here currently doing an iso on Lorab so I will be posting in just a little while. As far as i have gone so far I have not seen anything I think is suspicious. She spends a lot of her time on Bubbles and though she might be wrong she is at least consistent.

#8043

LoRab wrote:
Golden wrote:
LoRab wrote:
Golden wrote:I won't be voting Matt.

LoRab, DH, bubbles and dom are really the options, for me. I don't think Typh or Bullz are bad or Scarecrow.
I'm not bad. Last I asked, you said you weren't that suspicious of me and that it was a numbers thing. Is that still your reason?
Yep. You are probably still least suspicious to me of that group.
Glad to see that, because i'm not bad. So curious on your thinking about who everyone is. Do you think there are only 3 baddies/bad indies left in the game?

I don't think that can be right. The numbers don't check out.

Some of those I see as town could be indy or neutral. So could ekeknat and equivocate.

I think we've seen the back of the Joker, Poison Ivy, and Ra's al Ghul.
Partly based on what others are saying, I think the Riddler and the Scarecrow are still in the game.

The other five could be amongst the dead, the inactive, or the participating. I think it's harder to catch them, because they don't necessarily need to have an agenda.

I do think people who have been targetted by the Scarecrow in the past may have left breadcrumbs, though, and that helps us narrow down.

#8044

Golden you were scarecrowed to make sure Bullock died, yes?

#8045

Dom wrote:Why won't you vote Matt, Golden?

I do not think he is any of the baddies or inmates that we know to be alive. I don't see any convincing case on him. I think his cop claim is likely true.

#8046

Typhoony wrote:Golden you were scarecrowed to make sure Bullock died, yes?

Yep. I was night 1.

#8047

Typhoony wrote:Ok who has claimed to have been Scarecrowed before today and can you link me to the post please? Thanks

For what it's worth, I was Scarecrow'd last night and that's why I'm bringing attention to this whole thing. Bit selfish yeah but I hadn't considered the implications of the Scarecrow still being alive.

So that's me Night 9, Bullz Night 8, Matt and Golden at some point in the past. Five more are unaccounted for.

#8048

Quick look at searching scarecrow in the thread: Seems that MP and Mac were also scarecrowed.

I'll be back later tonight to talk some more

#8049

S~V~S wrote:Yay I can talk, Thanks Eddie for making that not as bad as it could have been

I think Bubbles vote and limited posts are a bit too well informed. I know she says she was here in the 10 days between her posts, but I don't recall ever seeing her. Her post about Doms chattiness level was bizarre, as was her vote for me.

I need to do some more reading on Matt, I don't think he looks much like GOC Matt to me. The Derp Index is also telling for me; he has 477 posts with 23 derps so far in this game, an index of .05. In GOC he had 308 posts, with 34 derps, an index of .11, more than double. He was blendier in general there, only coming to full Mattness in endgame.

I will say, I did genuinely see Bubbles multiple times. I thought it was weird she wasn't posting and for a while it made me wonder if Mac's 'people are getting arrested' theory was right. I can't remember in exactly what time of the game this was happening, though.

But, when I went through her posts, I can definitely see the points on her.

#8050

Enrique wrote:Golden wasn't Bubbles a civ for sure? Why is it Typh and Bullz that you're defending now?

I looked through bubbles posts in this game, and others, for myself, and it created doubt.

Typh and Bullz, I don't think they are bad or the scarecrow. I could be wrong, but thats my impression of the thread.

Who killed no one?