Typhoony wrote:I'd like a civ/bad/inmate GTH. I'm having trouble figuring out how some people would differentiate their civ/inmate play.
I agree. I think people I read as civ could reasonably easily be inmates, although in some cases the specific roles I have in mind make it less likely. If I were an inmate, I expect I'd be pushing for a civ win.
I'm happy to do a gth. But I don't think mine will harbour any surprises at this stage.
My vote today will probably be Dom. I really think he is not town-aligned.
Bass_the_Clever - town
Bubbles - town
Bullzeye - town
DharmaHelper - inmate
Dom - bad
ekeknat - inmate
Enrique - town
Equivocate - inmate
Golden - town
juliets - town
Lorab - inmate
Matt - town
MovingPictures07 - Wayne
S~V~S - Wayne
Typhoony - town
Thats my guess. I have come around on bubbles somewhat to the idea its possible she is bad but I still gut town read her.
Dom would be my preference for a lynch but DH is someone I have no doubt would target me day one. It still feels somewhat like a shot in the dark.
I actually think juliets could be inmate, she could even be Scarecrow. DH and juliets are my top two suspects for Scarecrow.
One thing hasbeen bugging me; the Maronis were Faraday, blendy, and Nero, a new person. The Falcones are Sabie, not the most involved & ??
I could not say it when I was suspected of being connected to Sabie becasue R & B was still going on, but I was connected to Sabie in THAT game. And I will tell you, she barely showed up to chat. That is why I was laughing about you guys thinking she would be colluding about night location polls.
Balance is king to these hosts, and I don't see them overbalancing one bad team.
GTH
Bass_the_Clever :Loves being bad, super involved in the beginning, but fell off the map. Disinterested BTS partner? BUT has not been here in over a week.
Bubbles: Here or not, I don't think she is a civ. I just don't
Bullzeye: Blendy as always. A possible baddie. Or not. I don't recall much he has said, and GTH means no ISOs lol.
DharmaHelper: Indy or civ; he would have targeted me if he was Scarecrow.
Dom: Indy or civ, not getting the case on him, but he has pulled the wool over on me.
ekeknat: ???????????????????????????
Enrique: Would have targeted Golden Day 1, would have faked being anti inmate. Not sure why he would have brought up Scarecrow, though. Could be bad, or not.
Equivocate: ?????????????????????????
Golden: I amnot seeing, nor have I ever seen, glowy super civ Golden. Indy.
juliets: Sadly this is who I think may be Scarecrow. Writes lots of isos, but they aren't really cases.
Lorab: Same as Bullz. I over cxompensate with her and tend to BOTD her since i USUALLY READ HER AS BAD.
Matt: Low Derp ratio; he is not bad. Could be Indy
MovingPictures07: Well, lol.
S~V~S: Not bad, not an inmate
Typhoony: I don't think he is bad. He could be an inmate.
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@SVS - there is one flaw in the idea that they wouldn't 'overbalance' one baddie team against the other, and that is the recruits.
Team dead recruited floyd, a non-player. Ouch, bad luck.
Team alive could have recruited a high posting townie. Sabie replaced lovedelic, so you could call nero and lovedelic = as newbies epi wouldn't have known. DF is a regular who, despite being quiet, I don't think epi would underestimate his skill. So, for me, the idea of thinking about balance probably doesn't narrow the field very much.
I was so pissed when you guys were accusing me of BTS with Sabie, and I had BTS with Sabie in R & B, and she was like almost never there, thread or chat lol. It was like a minor existential crisis (very minor ).
Linki, so who are those people?
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S~V~S wrote:I was so pissed when you guys were accusing me of BTS with Sabie, and I had BTS with Sabie in R & B, and she was like almost never there, thread or chat lol. It was like a minor existential crisis (very minor ).
S~V~S wrote:I was so pissed when you guys were accusing me of BTS with Sabie, and I had BTS with Sabie in R & B, and she was like almost never there, thread or chat lol. It was like a minor existential crisis (very minor ).
Linki, so who are those people?
That'd be Bass, Ek, and Equivocate. Maybe Bubbles. But at least bubbles has been here this month.
S~V~S wrote:I was so pissed when you guys were accusing me of BTS with Sabie, and I had BTS with Sabie in R & B, and she was like almost never there, thread or chat lol. It was like a minor existential crisis (very minor ).
Linki, so who are those people?
That'd be Bass, Ek, and Equivocate. Maybe Bubbles. But at least bubbles has been here this month.
OK, but why run through a bunch of people who aren't here when we know there are kills and targets from the Scarecrow?
I will admit I'm slightly bothered by the fact they may be inmates and whatever cops are their equivalents are just basically screwed over by their non-participation.
S~V~S wrote:I was so pissed when you guys were accusing me of BTS with Sabie, and I had BTS with Sabie in R & B, and she was like almost never there, thread or chat lol. It was like a minor existential crisis (very minor ).
Linki, so who are those people?
That'd be Bass, Ek, and Equivocate. Maybe Bubbles. But at least bubbles has been here this month.
OK, but why run through a bunch of people who aren't here when we know there are kills and targets from the Scarecrow?
What do you mean by "run through"? Do you mean lynch?
Because they don't deserve to win.
If you meant why did I list them, it's because if I played through ten game days and lost and they played through 0 game days and won, I would be upset.
Golden wrote:I don't think there is any way epi will give a win to people who aren't playing.
Also, I know in my case, that my death is not what will determine whether I win, so it's interesting you are equating death with loss.
Is it?
Very
Pls explain.
GCPD win conditions aren't survival based. You said you would be annoyed if you were lynched and therefore lost while people who didn't deserve it got wins. If you are worried that lynching will lose you the game, it suggests to me you are not GCPD.
Golden wrote:I don't think there is any way epi will give a win to people who aren't playing.
Also, I know in my case, that my death is not what will determine whether I win, so it's interesting you are equating death with loss.
Is it?
Very
Pls explain.
GCPD win conditions aren't survival based. You said you would be annoyed if you were lynched and therefore lost while people who didn't deserve it got wins. If you are worried that lynching will lose you the game, it suggests to me you are not GCPD.
I associate endgame with winning. Maybe I should have said if you let those players make it to endgame and I dont make it to endgame I will be upset.
Golden wrote:I don't think there is any way epi will give a win to people who aren't playing.
Also, I know in my case, that my death is not what will determine whether I win, so it's interesting you are equating death with loss.
Is it?
Very
Pls explain.
GCPD win conditions aren't survival based. You said you would be annoyed if you were lynched and therefore lost while people who didn't deserve it got wins. If you are worried that lynching will lose you the game, it suggests to me you are not GCPD.
I associate endgame with winning. Maybe I should have said if you let those players make it to endgame and I dont make it to endgame I will be upset.
Bass - None
Bubbles - Bad
Bullzeye - Town/indy, leaning indy
DH - Indy
Dom - Bad
eke - None
Enrique - ...Bad/Indy. Enrique has said that it's "obvious he's civ" and both Golden/Typh have him marked as such...can I ask why?
Equivocate - None
Golden - Town/town friendly indy, leaning town
juliets - Town
Lorab - Hrm. Bad. I don't know why, it's just how I feel.
Matt - Town
MP - Yup
SVS - Town/town friendly indy
Typh - Indy
Yeah, can someone tell me why Enrique is obvi town? Maybe I missed it.
It's just how I'm reading Enrique. It's not my words that he is 'obvious' civ.
No, I know it's not your words, as I said, those were Enrique's words. Just wondering if I missed something, because for him to declare as such, I feel like I must have missed something somewhere.
Bass_the_Clever - ?
Bubbles - bad
Bullzeye - town
DharmaHelper - inmate
Dom - town
ekeknat - inmate
Enrique - town
Equivocate - ?
Golden - town
juliets - town
Lorab - town
Matt - inmate
MovingPictures07 - town
S~V~S - town
Typhoony - inmate
I didn't count to see how many of what I've got - like I know I'm missing a baddie - I just went through and went GTH. I also didn't distinguish Wayne from town. If I had to guess for scarecrow - and thats what I would be doing, guessing, I would guess DH. It's not me. And while I'm there SVS I thought my iso's were cases. I came to conclusion on them but maybe you and I just define case differently. I guess an iso I'm looking at from a neutral point and seeing what the evidence tells me and a case may be more you start with the conclusion and then use the evidence as back up. Oh well, it doesn't really matter, just caught my eye.
Anyway I am not the scarecrow. I think many of you have another name in the slot that is mine - a town slot. I understand if you feel you need to vote me as there is no way I can think of except a blatant role hint to convince you I'm not scarecrow but I dislike role hints so I'm not going to do that. Oh, and one of you knows me so well, I would absolutely ask if I had to use the power if I had that role. Can't remember which of you said that but I laughed it was so on point.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pmAlways good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
I mean, Enrique and I clashed a lot in the early game, and I felt like he came out the other side looking civ. Admittedly his most civvyish defence was against my assertion he was on Maroni (which he is not). I think he has genuinely tried to help the civilian cause. He could be bad but he isn't one of my most likely suspects.
Bubbles wrote:im still here not disappeared at all, i'll vote for someone in a little bit
Hey bubbles. I know this isn't much like you to do this, but I'd be really interested in if you could give thoughts on quite a few players at once... if you can.
I thought we were going for the Scarecrow? Since discussion of who targeted whom is not the norm, I really think DH would have targeted me if he had a malicious power. I was not Scarecrowed. I was only Riddlered.
I will be amazed if he is Scarecrow
Linki, not voting you today Jules. Take care of yourself & your family
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell
Bubbles wrote:im still here not disappeared at all, i'll vote for someone in a little bit
Hey bubbles. I know this isn't much like you to do this, but I'd be really interested in if you could give thoughts on quite a few players at once... if you can.
im not sure if i could i dont have reads on many people
but kind of agree about lorab seeming fishy maybe voting him, i'll have to read back
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