Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]

[The Dry Flood]

HA I KNEW IT! FIrst game I was relevant in winning as a civ.

[Ricochet]

Had I signed up, I would have gone with Bill Evans, Astrid Gilberto, or Niels-Henning Ørsted Pedersen. I would have been happy with any of them. Or Joe Pass.

(Why didn't you?)

Bill Evans would have been a great choice and you would have most certainly received it.

[sig]

Thanks for the game Rico I enjoyed it! And good game all around I enjoyed it alot.

[Epignosis]

Had I signed up, I would have gone with Bill Evans, Astrid Gilberto, or Niels-Henning Ørsted Pedersen. I would have been happy with any of them. Or Joe Pass.

(Why didn't you?)

Bill Evans would have been a great choice and you would have most certainly received it.

My attention has been occupied elsewhere.

This looked fun from what I read though.

[Ricochet]

Thanks for the game Rico I enjoyed it! And good game all around I enjoyed it alot.

Cheers, sig! You were indeed solid and no-nonsense in your hunt, congrats.

[agleaminranks]

Sockpuppet account cleared and pass reset.

Rico, I can only hope the story for the final day was written in my honor. You know how much I love Hertzfeldt. Wiggle wiggle wiggle. OK

I'd like to thank you guys for letting me play. This was my first real experience as mafia and I had quite a bit of fun. Congrats on the win.
I also want to thank my teammates for presenting me with a tremendous handicap from the get go. I just wanna emphasize how little I had to go with and how stacked the odds were against me from the get go.

[Ricochet]

Oops, I know I said "finally" in my previous Host Post, but, better put my hat back on...

Forgot to mention, but either here or in private, any kind of feedback would be welcomed. Thanks again for participating!

And "finally"

Host Diary, Quirks, References

Diary

Day 0

== Wilgy (Navarro) jumps right on to sockguessing, gets actually 7/8 right (apart from thinking G-Man didn't join), although some names were pretty obvious or had slipped that they'd play
== sig (Coltrane) and Sorsha (Puente) get into their role pretty quickly
== Gleam (Dixon) mild distancing from Scotty (Buble) from the get go? Scotty plays along.
== So far, sig (Coltrane) seems to roleplay on his own and Gleam (Dixon) seems to follow the cliffnotes he received in doing his own act.
== Vompatti (Coleman) received confirmation of G-Man (Guaraldi) being vanilla civilian at the end of the phase, as his free ID to start the game.

Day 1

== Wilgy (Fats) fishes for reaction on sig (Coltrane) with a vote; sig later eyeballs him back
== G-Man (Guaraldi) fishes for reaction on Gleam (Dixon); Long Con (Miles) adds to it, Wilgy (Fats) dismisses it
== ika sockgaffes multiple times
== Gleam (Dixon) keeps it cool, bites back at Long Con (Miles); gets civread by MM (Hiromi)
== Vompatti (Coltrane) posts dada stuff, MM (Hiromi) replies to it; later Coltrane votes no lynch
== banter on voting Scotty (Buble) from Coltrane and Dixon; Gleam keeps the button on bus, in this matter
== Polo (Potter) finally makes an appearance
== Gleam (Dixon) pushes for a Zebra (Mingus) suss, invoking even Host flavour; little sketchy, but doesn't catch fire for it
== Scotty (Buble) dismisses votes on him; ika (Fleck) calls it unsatisfying; Scotty OMGUS's him
== Silverwolf (Holiday) votes his hubby for sockgaffing, lulz; then switches to Scotty (Buble)
== Fats - Coltrane antagonism intensifies, enough for a counterwagon
== Fats analyses votes, likes Mingus' vote for Buble but dislikes Potter's; dislikes Hiromi's vote for Trane; dislikes both votes on Dixon; dislikes Coleman's no lynch; ironically, this could be plenty of material to backfire back at him, post-flip or even long term (looking like he's defending scummy Dixon)
== inadvertedly, Scotty's top sock choice seems to have backfired on him, once he rolled mafia, since Buble was easy to pick on by the more old school, high-art socks... End of Day 1, mafia team looks in pretty bad shape: Sorsha (Tito) tried a save move on the counterwagon, but Scotty didn't return to try to save himself; Gleam (Dixon) backed away from his early Buble suss. Godfather death also eliminates any margin of error from the cop's future reads

Night 1

== sig (Coltrane) reads all four Buble voters civilians [correct] and last voter to wagon him as mafia [correct]; also calls Bill mafia, which is also correct, but then sort of backtracks...?
== Silverwolf (Billie) also intent to look at Coltrane wagoners [1 scum, two civs] also Guaraldi and Davis [1 civ, 1 doc]
== Gleam (Dixon) goes for the Scotty was bussed approach
== Wilgy (Fats) gets heat for being first counter-wagoner (from Fleck and Davis)
== Long Con (Davis) is considering wild option that Fleck mega-distanced; WIFOM talk sparks some tension, could get mafia-exploitable

== Vompatti (Coleman) asked for a read on John Coltrane and received confirmation of him being vanilla civilian at the end of the Phase
== Long Con (Davis) protected zebra (Mingus)
== zebra (Mingus) did not send in her insanification power - or shown any signs of end-phase presence, for that matter
== Mafia - or in fact just Gleam (Dixon) - chooses to eliminate a player involved in in-thread quarrels, namely Wilgy (Fats).

Day 2
== To sum it up, the nightkill momentarily created some smear on Coltrane, after which The Bickering Trio of Davis, Fleck and Mingus, with Dame Holliday as a special guest, became the polarizing event. Long Con (Davis) later claimed he just kept pressure on. Bicker between zebra (Mingus) and ika (Fleck) seems to have been based on principles, moreover. Vompatti (Coleman) plainly dumped the info that he checked Coltrane and Silverwolf (Holiday) seems to have picked that up right away. All moves on Hiromi suddenly moved on Sorsha (Puente). Sorsha never reappeared since the beginning of Night 1. Gleam's (Dixon) ISOs were solid smokescreen, imo, but he made a bit of a hasty move, jumping off Fleck's counterwagon. To his somewhat better fortune (at least for the moment), G-Man (Vince) created a momentum for him to return on casting a relevant vote.

Night 2
== Vompatti (Coleman) asked for a read on Billie Holiday and will receive confirmation of her being vanilla civilian at the end of the Phase
== Long Con (Davis) protected G-Man (Vince) on this Night
== Zebra (Mingus) used his mingussanifier on Fleck (setting it to "Mingus", to explicitly spite him)
== Gleam (Dixon) killed Billie Holiday. Incidentally, it ruined the cop's read that Phase.

Day 3
== Fleck (ika) posted normally at first, before receiving his curse via PM, then forgot about posting in curse language, then just evaded the curse requirements (stopped using names and pronouns, although he still slipped one or two times afterwards) and didn't come back until EoD, either.
== [I didn't keep a record in real-time, tbh] Bottom line, Coleman got lynched and Coleman didn't exactly do much against it, as expected. Counter-wagon was Hiromi, for low activity and POE D1 counter-wagoning. Tally ended 5 to 4.

Night 3
== Long Con (Davis) protected ika (Fleck) on this Night.
== Gleam (Dixon) considered killing Polo (Potter), then changed to G-Man (Vince). It probably happened after Potter wrote another suspicion post on Dixon in the thread.

Day 4
== A bit of conflict between big-ego-civilians resumed, with a bit of second doubting and WIFOM thrown in it, but then POE on lynched baddies' counterwagons and plot against Cop Coleman getting lynched finally dooms Gleam (Dixon). The game is complete.

Quirks

During Signups, the Host shared regularly (up to a point) pieces by E.S.T. None of the pieces shared in the Signup thread were role songs assigned in the game. During the Day, the Host sometimes shared music by the jazz artists chosen by the players who signed up.

All the Diary entries started with a letter from E S B J O R N's name. I only got to ESBJORN SV-, though.

All the Diary entries, except for "Prelude" and "Take 1" (the stuff dealing with E.S.' death and my impressions on Leucocyte, upon first listen) and "Take 4" (rewritten parts of my review for 301, published on JazzMusicArchives), were newly improvised by me during the game. All the entries' dates, except for the three mentioned, were purely fictional. I never actually kept a diary on E.S.T.'s music.

References

All Host Post titles have been modified into pictures, to reference Leucocyte's cover graphics.

The Day 0 Title references E.S.T.'s album Tuesday Wonderland (as well as the title track on it). The game also happened to start (at least in my time zone) and have its Day 0 take place on a Tuesday.

The Day 1 Title is an exact reference to the two-part piece Premonition off Leucocyte.

In the Day 1 Host Post text:

-- The text is referencing in the first lines of dialogue the fact that the Neutral Connoisseur picked Monk or Fleck for a player who passed on choosing his sock (ika), but the Host went with Fleck instead of Monk
-- Miles is calling out some of the musicians with whom he recorded Bitches Brew: Chick Corea, Joe Zawinul, Wayne Shorter, Dave Holland or Juma Santos ('Jim Riley') who played shakers and congas
-- The 'Remember me? (...) 'It's me, Charles. Yeah, Mingus!' line is taken from an open letter Mingus wrote to Davis.
-- Hiromi's line referenced the collaboration between her and Chick Corea.
-- Despite no intention for the Host Post to be anything but flavor, Ornette's creepy reply was meant to hint at him being Vompatti. Couldn't help it, I guess.
-- Coltrane's line on what matters in jazz is actually an actual quote from him.
-- The text introduced, for sheer flavor, Terence Fletcher from the movie Whiplash as an antagonizer. I'm not head over heels with that movie, its morals or the message it might try to convey, but I thought it was a worthy occasion to transpose him into the theme of this game. Several lines and situations were interpreted or even quoted from the movie.

The Night 1 title is a mix of Bublé's song called Feeling Good and Scotty's role card Dodge the Dodo. Sock-related references were slipped into the text (Ornette's Chappaqua, Miles' Steamin', Dixon wordplaying Miles' Kind of Blue). Bublé's swansong is adapted from his own song To Be Loved.

The Day 2 title references one of Navarro's pieces and the Host Post references the Rube Golden machine (as possible inspiration to E.S.T.'s 'The Rube Thing'?). Fletcher's "fat lady" pun is a reference to Navarro's being nicknamed that way, because of his weight issues. The part regarding Vince playing "fascinating rhythms" also references one of his pieces and him "snooping" references... well, y'know...

The Night 2 title is a paraphrase of Whiplash's Terence Fletcher's 'Not quite my tempo' catchphrase. The Host Post paraphrased the fight between Davis, Mingus, Fleck and Holiday and some of Fleck's philosophy on meta was turned into a monologue on the beauty of the banjo, towards the end of the text. Fleck's line about "disentchantment" is a reference to his album with Chick Corea The Entchantment and some of his monologue's musical references hint at Fleck's cover album of classical music Perpetuum Mobile. Gloomy Sunday was a song performed by the real Billie Holiday - Day 2 ended on a Sunday (early Monday). MovingPictures07's Death Note game and Host Post style is also referenced. Me smoking cigar and drinking wine references a PM I sent to MP during that Phase, expressing my dirty pleasure watching everything unfold.

The Day 3 title is a reference to one of Billie Holiday's songs. The Host Post referenced the romance between ika and Silver, the Host's real disentchantment at the mafia team getting BTFO. Vince remaining alone on stage turned into a recurrent joke. The Fast Show Jazz Club and Vince eating "peanuts" are pretty straightforwards. Miles joining Vince is a tongue-in-cheek references at LC protecting G-Man that Night.

The Night 3 title references one of Ornette Coleman's albums and Vompatti's ability to rolecheck in the game. All the words in Fletcher's insults were turned into rhyming equivalent; all the insults paraphrased, except for the first one, were said by Fletcher in the movie Whiplash. Neyman, the movie protagonist, is brought into the story for further flavour and for lack of a drummer, now that Tito was dead. ika's "Mingus" curse is referenced. A lot of Vompatti's weirdspeak is referenced or paraphrased, including his once infamous "I'm rooting for the baddies" (from Biblical), him often infoduming his confirmed civreads, his erotic love statement for certain writers or artists etc. The real Coleman's album Something Else!!! is also used in the dialogue. A paragraph from Borroughs' Naked Lunch (whose adaptation was scored by the real Coleman) is copied, with the word "jazz" replacing the word "junk" in the original text.

The Day 4 title is a reference to the "Good ol' Charlie Brown" catchphrase from Peanuts. Once again, Vince remaining alone is used as recurrent motive, this time to facilitate his death. Once again, Miles is referenced tagging along the person he protected that Night (ika/Fleck). The paragraph with Potter and the Host's meta joke that he will not die is a reference to Potter almost being targeted with the nightkill. Potter's story about a man playing jazz in a boat at sunset is a real story Polo once told me and even showed me a clip. The Host's story about once smoking weed, then having an important concert and then having heart issues, which he didn't know whether to attribute to the weed or the concert, is also real. The cutaway scene to Fletcher and Neyman is paraphrased from the movie.

The Finale title is a reference to one of Bill Dixon's albums, Vade Mecum, Louis Armstrong's What a Wonderful World, mixed with Don Hertzfeldt's World of Tomorrow. More on the latter in a minute. The Host post breaks into meta, with a backstory for Bill Dixon and a Dixon-POV recap of the phases' events. I sort of wrote this lengthy format as an hommage to Gleam (Dixon) actually trying his best in his role. Much of the first section is a paraphase to Don Hertzfeldt's It's Such a Beautiful Day animation trilogy, sometimes with word-for-word transposed dialogue, which Gleam and I are both gay for. The protagonist in that trilogy is called Bill. Dixon's absurd death, at the end of the Host Post, is also a tongue-in-cheek reference to a pun in one of the trilogy's fragments. Meanwhile, the bit of dialogue between Bill and his granddaughter Emily is a paraphrase of a scene in Hertzfeld't recent World of Tomorrow. During the next (and final) band rehearsal, Easy Six is a reference to a jazz song and to the fact that there would be six remaining players, once Day 4 concludes. During the solo trials, every remaining sock/player's role song (including Dixon's) is subtly referenced.

===

if Coltrane would have died D1, I would have used the title "Tranewreck" for the Host Post
if Fleck would have died D2, I would have used the title "Just a Fleck Wound" for the Host Post
if Hiromi would have died D3, I would have used the title "Hiromi, Mon Amour" (referencing the movie Hiroshima, Mon Amour) for the Host Post

[Ricochet]

Sockpuppet account cleared and pass reset.

Rico, I can only hope the story for the final day was written in my honor. You know how much I love Hertzfeldt. Wiggle wiggle wiggle. OK

I'd like to thank you guys for letting me play. This was my first real experience as mafia and I had quite a bit of fun. Congrats on the win.
I also want to thank my teammates for presenting me with a tremendous handicap from the get go. I just wanna emphasize how little I had to go with and how stacked the odds were against me from the get go.

It was. Hope you enjoyed it nevertheless and I'm sure you'll have a better experience, town or mafia, in the future.

Everyone should know that Gleam/Dixon sort of did a one-man effort for four cycles - 95%, let's say.

All the kills were his (his teammates hardly or never returned to aid him, despite being allowed to) and he was inspired (or lucky) enough to dodge the doctor every single time. On Night 2, he also cancelled the cop's read by killing the damsel herself.
All his kills were meant to seed some doubt or create some imbalance for the civs.

Aside from needing to work a bit more his vote/wagon camouflage, on searching for power roles to kill (I mean, Voopy was blatant-as-fuck, after all) and maybe being slightly more active in confronting his hunters, I'd conclude that he has put an otherwise commendable effort.

[Polo]

Thanks so much to Rico for being such an awesome host! I had a real fun time playing my first Mafia game here, even though I haven't been much of a good player. Hope to actually contribute to the fun of the next games I play!

The sunset-sax-on-a-boat guy is still doing it every day.

[Ricochet]

Game history.

[agleaminranks]

Despite no intention for the Host Post to be anything but flavor, Ornette's creepy reply was meant to hint at him being Vompatti. Couldn't help it, I guess.

I had my suspicions but when I saw that line it confirmed it. Was actually real surprised you let that one through Rico. I got a good laugh out of it.

[Ricochet]

Thanks so much to Rico for being such an awesome host! I had a real fun time playing my first Mafia game here, even though I haven't been much of a good player. Hope to actually contribute to the fun of the next games I play!

The sunset-sax-on-a-boat guy is still doing it every day.

Dunno what you mean, you had spot on reads, for someone playing, I assume, his first online game? Sure, you have more of a "drop by on occasion" and "throw suspicion to see what sticks" kind of gameplay, but in this case it worked, so kudos to you.

See you in another game!

I was desperately searching for the video on YouTube when I manufactured that post and then I realized, d'oh, you filmed that, right? Completely forgot the town, though, so I invented some Mediterranean bogus stuff ... is it in your hometown?

[A Person]

"Jazz" from Leucocyte | Vompatti | Ornette Coleman

Whaaaaaaaat, vomps was Coleman? I never would've guessed :O :O :O

[Silverwolf]

Hey, Sock account cleared out and reset.

Thanks for the game Ricochet. I enjoyed this one a lot.

[Ricochet]

Despite no intention for the Host Post to be anything but flavor, Ornette's creepy reply was meant to hint at him being Vompatti. Couldn't help it, I guess.

I had my suspicions but when I saw that line it confirmed it. Was actually real surprised you let that one through Rico. I got a good laugh out of it.

Yeah, gotta work on that, so far I got strongly influenced to craft flavour from the gameplay or to toy around with references and hints.

I doubt it contributed to anyone thinking Vom-goddamn-patti drew cop, though. Oh how I looked for my jaw back when I randomized the roles.

linki: Ha ha.

linki2: Thanks for playing. Glad you did.

[Marmot]

Hi, I was Hiromi. I'm pretty sure everyone figured it out. :P

Also, Hiromi's account has been cleaned out.

[sig]

Nice notes.

== sig (Coltrane) reads all four Buble voters civilians [correct] and last voter to wagon him as mafia [correct]; also calls Bill mafia, which is also correct, but then sort of backtracks...?

Yeah I did backtrack.

After Sorsha flipped I was thinking we had four mafia members. With MM and Gleam as the third and fourth members.

Nice roleplaying Gleam, that actually made me hesitant to pursue you.

Also welcome Polo! Hope to play another game with you soon.

And I think I deleted the Pm's so I guess I cleared the account?

[Silverwolf]

Do the scum chat's get released in these games?

[Ricochet]

Hi, I was Hiromi. I'm pretty sure everyone figured it out. :P

Also, Hiromi's account has been cleaned out.

Did you pick up on Coleman being Voopy/cop and started mirroring him to smokescreen others or just for the lulz?

[Ricochet]

Do the scum chat's get released in these games?

Yeah, but MP will have to make it visible, when he has time.

Also, it was basically just me and Gleam, so not much there, lol.

[Polo]

Thanks so much to Rico for being such an awesome host! I had a real fun time playing my first Mafia game here, even though I haven't been much of a good player. Hope to actually contribute to the fun of the next games I play!

The sunset-sax-on-a-boat guy is still doing it every day.

Dunno what you mean, you had spot on reads, for someone playing, I assume, his first online game? Sure, you have more of a "drop by on occasion" and "throw suspicion to see what sticks" kind of gameplay, but in this case it worked, so kudos to you.

See you in another game!

I was desperately searching for the video on YouTube when I manufactured that post and then I realized, d'oh, you filmed that, right? Completely forgot the town, though, so I invented some Mediterranean bogus stuff ... is it in your hometown?

Yeah, it's my town, man. Here's a clip of him:

[Ricochet]

ayyy gold!

[Silverwolf]

That play by play was awesome. Thanks again all!! This was a fun one.

[Marmot]

Hi, I was Hiromi. I'm pretty sure everyone figured it out. :P

Also, Hiromi's account has been cleaned out.

Did you pick up on Coleman being Voopy/cop and started mirroring him to smokescreen others or just for the lulz?

No I did not. It was entirely coincidental that Vompatti was the cop and I mimicked him while pretending to be the cop.

But I was trying to protect him and call out confirmed civs on a daily basis. I believe I started doing that before he did.

[Ricochet]

Hi, I was Hiromi. I'm pretty sure everyone figured it out. :P

Also, Hiromi's account has been cleaned out.

Did you pick up on Coleman being Voopy/cop and started mirroring him to smokescreen others or just for the lulz?

No I did not. It was entirely coincidental that Vompatti was the cop and I mimicked him while pretending to be the cop.

But I was trying to protect him and call out confirmed civs on a daily basis. I believe I started doing that before he did.

Yep, that's what I picked up on.

[Ricochet]

That play by play was awesome. Thanks again all!! This was a fun one.

Play by play?

Now that the game has concluded, an MVP must be voted, so he can qualify for the All-Star Heist Whatiscalled.

Please send me via PM your nomination for the E.S.T. Mafia MVP. You have 24 hours, but I would suggest you do it, like, right now... (people will usually tend to forget, otherwise).

There's also been some real quality roleplaying, so please nominate a player for the E.S.T. Best Roleplay award, as well!

(I don't remember, can non-players vote as well...?)

You peeps already forgot, didn't ya?

[Silverwolf]

That play by play was awesome. Thanks again all!! This was a fun one.

Play by play?

Now that the game has concluded, an MVP must be voted, so he can qualify for the All-Star Heist Whatiscalled.

Please send me via PM your nomination for the E.S.T. Mafia MVP. You have 24 hours, but I would suggest you do it, like, right now... (people will usually tend to forget, otherwise).

There's also been some real quality roleplaying, so please nominate a player for the E.S.T. Best Roleplay award, as well!

(I don't remember, can non-players vote as well...?)

You peeps already forgot, didn't ya?

Oh sorry, I meant host diary. That was entertaining. I'll do the above ASAP.

[Silverwolf]

Sig for MVP IMO

[ika]

ok accoudn should be set, i have a lot to say

my vote i ssilver for MVP

[Long Con]

Cool game, I was Miles Davis, I enjoyed ika calling me out as a2thezebra and a little bit Epi. When Zebra sockslipped, I had to vote for Chris Potter in order to maintain the illusion.

Apart from suspecting Bill Dixon quite a bit, I wasn't that integral to the win. No MVP here, that's for sure.

Why didn't people suspect me? That was nice.

Miles Davis sockpuppet account is cleaned and reset.

[Silverwolf]

Thanks ika

[ika]

ok so onn the game as a whole, i think scums got shot hard due to gf flip day 1

so on how everyone played i do have feedback

scotty - sucks you got lynched day 1, IMO when you kinda joked the votes off and just OMGUS me it pretty mcuh made me convinced you were scum. i would like to see more next time

sorsha - i dunno if you jsut are inactive as scum or not but that is what kinda killed ya out

gleam - good show overall, i do have to say your rping for the entire game is kinda what pinged me on and off. you had the odds stacked agaisn tyou


silver - ok, i have to say great job on obtowning yourself first off, next off i dunnow how you picked corrctl yout of the 2 lurkers but amazing you got 2 out of 3 pegged and were homing on on the 3rd, MVP

sig - amaizng job, you did great peggint last

vompi - next time plz claim cop, it would fo saved you and made the game broken

long con - i dont recall much form you, i think you were more of a background player to me

zebra - ok zebra...... where do i beign? i think your hard tunnels are a good trait in general, but you do need to learn one thing that too me a long time: reevaluate. when you end up getting a lot of epopel worng its maybe a chance to take a step back and readjust, how i play and about ym meta is how i play regardless and i would hope you could undersatnd that more later.

metalmarsh - shoot me a pm if you would liemt o learn more about how i found cop i think you did good and i had mild ideas of you being doc at one point

if i missed anyone who wants it let me know i kinda did this off top of head

[Scotty]

Well shit. This game started terribly for us and didn't last long. Gleam, I'm sorry for my lack of Intel in the thread. I feel kinda jipped that I was lynched D1 regardless of my attitude, despite what ika says. I still don't know why he voted for me originally, but whatever.

Good goin civs. Thanks for the game Rico- I look forward to more of your hosting!

[ika]

Well shit. This game started terribly for us and didn't last long. Gleam, I'm sorry for my lack of Intel in the thread. I feel kinda jipped that I was lynched D1 regardless of my attitude, despite what ika says. I still don't know why he voted for me originally, but whatever.

Good goin civs. Thanks for the game Rico- I look forward to more of your hosting!

i always random vote at the start of day 1, when you made your "joking" post about the votes i turned it into a serious one

[Polo]

You missed me, ika! (I'm Potter).

And I agree that Scotty's reaction to the votes cemented my decision to vote for Bublé on day 1

[Long Con]

Fantastic game, impressive posts, great hosting Rico! I hope to play a game where you are hosting and the subject is one that I can relate to more, because your passion and dedication and amazing posts were more than awesome!

[ika]

You missed me, ika! (I'm Potter).

And I agree that Scotty's reaction to the votes cemented my decision to vote for Bublé on day 1

Well looking back to you, i can see you were vocal and poking people, i did notice you forgot the cop over so i think yous hould try to be more alert on that front.

i am glad the reaciotn of scotty is what i saw too would liek to see more of you in games

[Ricochet]

sorsha - i dunno if you jsut are inactive as scum or not but that is what kinda killed ya out

metalmarsh - shoot me a pm if you would liemt o learn more about how i found cop i think you did good and i had mild ideas of you being doc at one point

Sorsha went dark since early Night 1. I doubt there's anything to project about her baddie game in this regard, in fact I was amused when Miles/LC post-flip said "ohhh so Sorsha is more inactive when bad, note to self".

Also, is there an art to finding a cop wombat who is blatantly infodumping in the thread? I think Silver noticed the first and readjusted her game accordingly.

Finally, I have a question: why was your impression, after Night 3 kill, that scum is not paying attention? Gleam actually killed one of the two cop-confirmed players. What should have he done instead?

[Ricochet]

Fantastic game, impressive posts, great hosting Rico! I hope to play a game where you are hosting and the subject is one that I can relate to more, because your passion and dedication and amazing posts were more than awesome!

Learned from studying the masters.

Triskaidekaphobia (which I hope will take place no sooner than May, cause I really need a break until then) will have far less Host Post flourish, although I'm still planning some interesting hidden details for it. My storytelling caprice could most likely return for Godspeed You Black Emperor, where it might get really dark and s̻͈ͨ̃̿͊̓̚p̲̬͚ȯ̪̆̅͟o̳̞̹k̭̜͈̰̈́̒ͬ̇ͬͅy̺̥̰̩̱͜ͅ ͂

Anyway, I enjoyed your mild scummy-looking gameplay and your banter went along well with often making Miles in the story a bit of a douche. I think you acknowledged in the thread, after Day 2, that you were just poking and keeping pressure on ika, otherwise I would have wondered a bit more why you really took the extreme approach in the "<godfather being bussed> is a valid theory as any and we need to keep it in mind, at least" matter.

Oh, I also really liked how you reasoned each of the doc choices in your PMs, even if you never managed to protect a victim.

[Sorsha]

Sorry to my team, other players and host for bailing on this game. It's not something I usually do. It was just a perfect storm of being too busy irl and being in too many games. I had the sockpuppet account for this game, one for the Turf Wars game and my regular account for the Spirited Away game.

ok so onn the game as a whole, i think scums got shot hard due to gf flip day 1

so on how everyone played i do have feedback

sorsha - i dunno if you jsut are inactive as scum or not but that is what kinda killed ya out

I'm not, along with what I said above I kinda screwed myself with my day one vote trying to save Buble/Scotty. I'm going to buss baddie teammates so hard from now on

sorsha - i dunno if you jsut are inactive as scum or not but that is what kinda killed ya out

metalmarsh - shoot me a pm if you would liemt o learn more about how i found cop i think you did good and i had mild ideas of you being doc at one point

Sorsha went dark since early Night 1. I doubt there's anything to project about her baddie game in this regard, in fact I was amused when Miles/LC post-flip said "ohhh so Sorsha is more inactive when bad, note to self".

I was wondering who said that LC

[S~V~S]

This was a really fun game to watch, Rico, awesome posts!

I am glad you went with the socks, it added a certain ambiance to the subject matter that just would not have worked as well with everyday personas.

[ika]

Finally, I have a question: why was your impression, after Night 3 kill, that scum is not paying attention? Gleam actually killed one of the two cop-confirmed players. What should have he done instead?

Well, i felt like knowing who the cop was that scums werent paying full attention, i would of killed someone more vocal in the game. expicaly when that case was built

FMPOV knowing mingus was town confirmed i would of gone for tht

[Silverwolf]

I found the cop cuz I'm used to PR power role hunting from playing scum so many times on ms. His first post after night was so and so is confirmed civ. That's usually a cop claim in most games which is why I took my vote off the person who was confirmed. This isn't perfect but I've had good success finding power roles and killing them as scum in the past.

[Marmot]

Mafia did win the first Heist game, but civilians are on a role now, winning the last 4. Go civs!

[DrWilgy]

Yay! Go civs!!

[Ricochet]

Finally, I have a question: why was your impression, after Night 3 kill, that scum is not paying attention? Gleam actually killed one of the two cop-confirmed players. What should have he done instead?

Well, i felt like knowing who the cop was that scums werent paying full attention, i would of killed someone more vocal in the game. expicaly when that case was built

FMPOV knowing mingus was town confirmed i would of gone for tht

Mingus wasn't town confirmed, Voopy only got Vince as his D0 peek (I randomized among vanilla civs), then checked Coltrane and Holiday (who concomittantly died). It was fun to watch how everyone took from his posts whatever he thought was legit. Vompatti is such a chaos maker.

[Ricochet]

Mafia did win the first Heist game, but civilians are on a role now, winning the last 4. Go civs!

Is Zodiac officially disowned from the Heist sequence?

Speaking of rolls, Zeebs keeps winning these with ease. Played 5, won 4.

[Ricochet]

This was a really fun game to watch, Rico, awesome posts!

I am glad you went with the socks, it added a certain ambiance to the subject matter that just would not have worked as well with everyday personas.

Since submitting it, my game evolved from strictly song-centric Host Posts (the way MP did Pet Sounds) aka diary entries to the concept of players (real personas) gathering up to fictionally talk about their favorite jazz (aka player-influenced Host Post flavour) to suddenly expanding it to encompass other jazz to omg why not jazz sockies! to allowing players to choose their own socks to this game's final form, having a bit of everything, really.

Plus, I wanted socks, because I think it's pretty much the only game mechanic that hasn't been experimented with in Heists, after Zodiac.

[Tangrowth]

This was an incredibly awesome game to MoD, you all made it pretty easy on me overall. So thanks for that!

Rico, it was a pleasure being the MoD for your first game ever, and I can say with confidence that everyone should look forward to future games that you host, because this was incredibly well done.

[Tangrowth]

Also, congratulations to the civilians! You all really wiped up the mafia, didn't you?

I want to specifically shout out to gleam though; you've evolved your game so much in Turf Wars and here, and I was pleasantly surprised to see you starting to come into your own. You really just had too much of an uphill battle. Don't let it get you down, I've been there many times, especially since I've randomed mafia ridiculously often. You definitely gave it a good try after you and your teammates had some pretty bad starting luck.