I'd still argue this, but it's a moo point.ika wrote:so golden, do you realzie now that no matter how well you knwo MP you cant say what you have said?
when you compared me and sivler to you and MP they were 2 diffrent things entirely.
god i need a soda i will post more later.
Good thing you did, buddy boy, because I was going to grill you. I was of the opinion that you and Golden were both bad.MovingPictures07 wrote:Indeed, ika insisted on killing Silver N1, which I was OK with because she was onto me more than anyone else. I feared Epignosis, so I killed him too.
Yikes.Scotty wrote:Well shit.
I would be pissed if MP is actually bad. Pissed. As Golden said, if Mp is bad, this is one of his most masterful games: not enough time, leader in posts, exhaustive quality, hand picking a baddie on day 2. I mean, it's pretty much a worst case scenario that I don't want to go up against.
Wilgy, I had a big ole post in response to your questions that got deleted in the thread lock because I forgot that I can't post in the night. Now that it was deleted, my desire to respond to him has plummeted.
I am not scum, and would like to vote either Wilgy or ika today. Ika is just pissed that he hasn't won yet. This is the ika I remember from Turf Wars.
I'm not voting for anyone yet until we've determined AS A GROUP to vote someone.
UNVOTE
I had a feeling. I even PMed you when JJJ said you were replacing LC similarly to how you PMed me when Prisoner JJJ entered Turf Wars, with "Shit, Epi is going to figure me out" or something to that effect.Epignosis wrote:Good thing you did, buddy boy, because I was going to grill you. I was of the opinion that you and Golden were both bad.MovingPictures07 wrote:Indeed, ika insisted on killing Silver N1, which I was OK with because she was onto me more than anyone else. I feared Epignosis, so I killed him too.
I don't agree with this; it can be. Mafia have to fabricate literally all of their content. It was difficult for me to do that, some of you didn't make it easy.Silverwolf wrote:Effort is never indicative of alignment. If Ika is tunneling he either is a PR w results or its his scum team mate. He will also do it to me if I'm scum in a game and he catches me. Just an FYI no matter hi well you know someone, you should never rely solely on meta alone to read them. Good job scum team and congratulations on the win. Whoever the vig is, should hide their head in shame.
Oops. I mean PMed "about you". Lol. That sentence is a mess.MovingPictures07 wrote:I had a feeling. I even PMed you when JJJ said you were replacing LC similarly to how you PMed me when Prisoner JJJ entered Turf Wars, with "Shit, Epi is going to figure me out" or something to that effect.Epignosis wrote:Good thing you did, buddy boy, because I was going to grill you. I was of the opinion that you and Golden were both bad.MovingPictures07 wrote:Indeed, ika insisted on killing Silver N1, which I was OK with because she was onto me more than anyone else. I feared Epignosis, so I killed him too.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I made a banner for the winners. It was produced with top of the line Microsoft Paint technology.
Congrats again to ika, Inawordyes, MovingPictures07, and sig for a great performance.
linki: lmao, I'm sorry Scotty.
pretty much this, while me and silver will say we know each other, we read each other outside of meta reasons too and surprisingly more game related reasons then notSilverwolf wrote:Effort is never indicative of alignment. If Ika is tunneling he either is a PR w results or its his scum team mate. He will also do it to me if I'm scum in a game and he catches me. Just an FYI no matter hi well you know someone, you should never rely solely on meta alone to read them. Good job scum team and congratulations on the win.
but tats the thing, how golden was reading you was bassed on your effort and contents IMO. what silver is saying here is that usign that to abirtarly read someone will lead you to misread peopleMovingPictures07 wrote:I don't agree with this; it can be. Mafia have to fabricate literally all of their content. It was difficult for me to do that, some of you didn't make it easy.Silverwolf wrote:Effort is never indicative of alignment. If Ika is tunneling he either is a PR w results or its his scum team mate. He will also do it to me if I'm scum in a game and he catches me. Just an FYI no matter hi well you know someone, you should never rely solely on meta alone to read them. Good job scum team and congratulations on the win. Whoever the vig is, should hide their head in shame.
But it never is indicative with some players, including me.
You were awesome to host, Dizzy. I really hope we can play in a game together at some point.Dyslexicon wrote:I really enjoyed the game, and I hope to play with you all again sometime.
I feel like I finally came into my own this game. It was really difficult, but I finally played a game where I felt like I largely avoided major missteps as mafia, and could more faithfully replicate my town meta than usual.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:This was definitely the best game I've ever seen MP play. Silverwolf displayed her intuitive strengths again on Day 1 and put MP under serious pressure, but he evaded that and ended up controlling the game wire-to-wire. Bravo, sir.
Yeah, I'm very impressed. I was ready to drop all my suspicion after he came in and posted a hundred posts with the right amount of buddying. Also I think he's the kind of player you always want to be town, which works very well when you rand mafia. Bravo, indeed. And bravo to the whole scum team.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:This was definitely the best game I've ever seen MP play. Silverwolf displayed her intuitive strengths again on Day 1 and put MP under serious pressure, but he evaded that and ended up controlling the game wire-to-wire. Bravo, sir.
Yeah.Dyslexicon wrote:That "MP has reads on all his null-ISOs" from IAWY makes so much sense now. Oh hindsight.
There should be no doubt that you were a deserving part of the conversation for who should represent The Syndicate, and if Golden ever encounters a need for replacement his game slot will be in good hands.MovingPictures07 wrote:I feel like I finally came into my own this game. It was really difficult, but I finally played a game where I felt like I largely avoided major missteps as mafia, and could more faithfully replicate my town meta than usual.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:This was definitely the best game I've ever seen MP play. Silverwolf displayed her intuitive strengths again on Day 1 and put MP under serious pressure, but he evaded that and ended up controlling the game wire-to-wire. Bravo, sir.
I definitely am very proud of this win. It may be the sweetest one I've ever had.
QFT, so much.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:You were awesome to host, Dizzy. I really hope we can play in a game together at some point.Dyslexicon wrote:I really enjoyed the game, and I hope to play with you all again sometime.
The same goes for all of the newcomers who stopped by to get a little practice with us. I really appreciate everyone's participation, and I wish all the champions the best of luck in the tournament. I hope this scrimmage will prove at least a little useful as preparation, despite the differences with the games on MU.
Scum chat was on Chatzy, idk about a link I don't think it saves everything?Soneji wrote:So was scum chat on Skype or is there a link I can get to it?
if you tried to tell me what to do i would of 100% ignored you. my scum play is complied of trying to forget my allies or bussing them to oblivion. i set an agenda to play as scum and will commonly ignore my buddies stuff to lack an awarenss or set up everything i need to doMovingPictures07 wrote:Yeah.Dyslexicon wrote:That "MP has reads on all his null-ISOs" from IAWY makes so much sense now. Oh hindsight.
Not having day chat was incredibly paralyzing and foreign to me, especially at first. I wanted to tell IAWY and ika many things, lol, and I was especially frustrated by ika only going after his teammates, but the WIFOM worked out I suppose. I didn't feel it wasn't an easy game, despite the fact that there were still 3 of us alive at the end. I kept worrying about every single post I made; I tried my absolute best to make sure I was approaching the game as a townie. It was difficult to avoid confirmation bias, no doubt.
They used a chatzy. I may share a link soon once I've spoken with the team.Soneji wrote:So was scum chat on Skype or is there a link I can get to it?
Much appreciated, Jay.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:There should be no doubt that you were a deserving part of the conversation for who should represent The Syndicate, and if Golden ever encounters a need for replacement his game slot will be in good hands.MovingPictures07 wrote:I feel like I finally came into my own this game. It was really difficult, but I finally played a game where I felt like I largely avoided major missteps as mafia, and could more faithfully replicate my town meta than usual.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:This was definitely the best game I've ever seen MP play. Silverwolf displayed her intuitive strengths again on Day 1 and put MP under serious pressure, but he evaded that and ended up controlling the game wire-to-wire. Bravo, sir.
I definitely am very proud of this win. It may be the sweetest one I've ever had.
I've learned through 2 years and numerous games, that tow reading someone off effort, is never a good idea. I do think you did a great job. Don't get me wrong. Sig and ika did too. This is just a lesson for future games.MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't agree with this; it can be. Mafia have to fabricate literally all of their content. It was difficult for me to do that, some of you didn't make it easy.Silverwolf wrote:Effort is never indicative of alignment. If Ika is tunneling he either is a PR w results or its his scum team mate. He will also do it to me if I'm scum in a game and he catches me. Just an FYI no matter hi well you know someone, you should never rely solely on meta alone to read them. Good job scum team and congratulations on the win. Whoever the vig is, should hide their head in shame.
But it never is indicative with some players, including me.
I don't tell people how to play. I don't like people telling me how to play; furthermore, I think it's inappropriate. Trying to strategize is one thing, but trying to tell someone else how to play is another.ika wrote:if you tried to tell me what to do i would of 100% ignored you. my scum play is complied of trying to forget my allies or bussing them to oblivion. i set an agenda to play as scum and will commonly ignore my buddies stuff to lack an awarenss or set up everything i need to doMovingPictures07 wrote:Yeah.Dyslexicon wrote:That "MP has reads on all his null-ISOs" from IAWY makes so much sense now. Oh hindsight.
Not having day chat was incredibly paralyzing and foreign to me, especially at first. I wanted to tell IAWY and ika many things, lol, and I was especially frustrated by ika only going after his teammates, but the WIFOM worked out I suppose. I didn't feel it wasn't an easy game, despite the fact that there were still 3 of us alive at the end. I kept worrying about every single post I made; I tried my absolute best to make sure I was approaching the game as a townie. It was difficult to avoid confirmation bias, no doubt.
I don't disagree at all; it shouldn't be the sole reason for reading anyone as town. It can be one of many indicators to consider though, I'd say, but it definitely depends on the person. Either way, I agree that it shouldn't be given primary or even heavy consideration, especially without considering the possibility of that player scum supatowning like I was.Silverwolf wrote:I've learned through 2 years and numerous games, that tow reading someone off effort, is never a good idea. I do think you did a great job. Don't get me wrong. Sig and ika did too. This is just a lesson for future games.MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't agree with this; it can be. Mafia have to fabricate literally all of their content. It was difficult for me to do that, some of you didn't make it easy.Silverwolf wrote:Effort is never indicative of alignment. If Ika is tunneling he either is a PR w results or its his scum team mate. He will also do it to me if I'm scum in a game and he catches me. Just an FYI no matter hi well you know someone, you should never rely solely on meta alone to read them. Good job scum team and congratulations on the win. Whoever the vig is, should hide their head in shame.
But it never is indicative with some players, including me.
It was exhausting. Yes, this. I've pulled many gambits before and most of them have failed spectacularly. I even faked a red cop peek as VT before on the actual cop, got myself lynched and him NKed right before he could solve the game by POE.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:And hey, a message to the town vigilante:
Hold your head high. You're the one who had to pull the trigger, so don't mind any criticism. Shit happens, it's Mafia.
Oh man, MM.Metalmarsh89 wrote:We could probably talk about how awful our town vig has been.MovingPictures07 wrote:ika's emotion seems sincere to me. I'm switching back.
VOTE DRWILGY
Term paper time. Be back later. Then I guess I'll revisit my IAWY interaction analyses and try performing some arbitrary paired analysis of the five of you? Not sure what else to do at this stage.
Two kills between Zexy, Dyslexicon, Golden, and Soneji is just awful.
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