It's probably easy to take this as an insult, but it's not. I publicly experience reading comprehension fails often enough (I'm not allowed to be Epi's lawyer, you knowLong Con wrote:We come back to this one at the end of the post...Silverwolf wrote:Lorab needs to be lynched. I don't think there's any question about that. Long Con can be next thought. I believe I found a post that clearly comes from a cylon mindset last day phase,
Weak, simplistic reasoning. Try harder. I will explain why I judged this to be weak. This was a Day 1 or Day 2 case, if I recall correctly. When I read JJJ's case, I saw that he had accused her in part for changing her tune on ika from "suspicion" to "annoyance". Going back to look at her original posts on ika, what I read primarily indicated annoyance, moreso than suspicion. I brought it up, feel free to go and check it out. That is the reason I spoke up. I am not and was not connected to nutella in any way, and I am damn sure that my reason for speaking up against JJJ's case was truthful and solid. Given that I know this to be true, I don't understand why you would discard it as false and just sweep in a broad statement, "his refusal to vote nutella speaks volumes" -- it was very early in the game, and I was wrong to defend nutella like that, but I don't think that even qualifies as "speaks volumes". I was wrong in the early game. It's real, and it's not me blatantly defending a baddie teammate.his refusal to vote nutella speaks volumes,
When have I ever done that anyway? I don't know, maybe I have. Other people remember my past games with WAY more detail than I do. I just don't think that's my style. I love bussing!Too WIFOM to ask anyone to believe me, but former baddie teammate, is that my style? I really don't think so. I think Metalmarsh specifically, and zebra, can attest to that.
Bottom line, I called this "weak and simplistic" because it's just taking an early game wrongness and deciding that's the one that was a baddie. There are wrong people by Night 2 in most games, it's just what happens.
Even weaker. I'm a Cylon because I sent a Sortie to D5.he interfered with the sorties,I stand by this assessment. My stolen Sortie isn't even, like, a worthwhile baddie move. It's not worth anything to a baddie to do that: it's 100% public, and calls needless attention to yourself. I mostly just did it to be a shit, and because I truly didn't believe that it made any actual negative difference. Plus I didn't think it was a good idea to simply trust DrumBeats' grid plan verbatim, and despite me (and others) bringing it up, that was being largely ignored. Since that time, I have expounded upon just how being ignored makes me feel. Given that context, isn't stealing a Sortie pretty in line with what I would do? It wasn't about my alignment. It was about Long Con. I don't see anything about it that realistically points to me being an evil Cylon.
Weakest of all because it is a blatant lie! "However, I don't really believe that Silver starting to enjoy the game in the last short while is alignment-indicative." That's what I said. Is that trying to stir it up, or is that saying that it's not relevant?he got involved with the whole Matt and I thing to try to stir it up when it was dying down,
Silver, when I commented on your spat with Matt, the only thing I said was that I agreed that his collection of your posts was *thorough*. My definition of thorough is that he clearly did a lot of work with the presentation, and that each post he highlighted matched the conclusion he presented: indications of less enjoyment of the game from you. The guy had, like twenty posts! I estimate that probably took him at least fifteen minutes. That is thorough.
I specifically said that I didn't think his post was helpful with regard to deciphering your alignment. I would think that you, of all people, would be happy with a post like that, because it's in your favour, but you called it out as "fanning the flames". Please, can you not understand my point of view on this one point at least?
Guilty as charged, I have overdone it a little. So I wanna roleplay a little, so what?his posts are way too "I'm not a cylon, cylons are bad" to the point where it looks overdone.
What relevance does this statement about counterwagons have? I have spoken of "questions you didn't answer", and this is the one on my mind when I say that. I don't get the context or relevance of the counterwagon/Turf Wars thing, I just need an explanation so that I get your point with this. You have never tried to help me out here, you just accuse me more.And anyone that thinks a cw can't be on a scum team mate should look at Turf Wars.
If that's what you think, then you have experienced a massive reading comprehension fail.Here's the post I'm talking about that comes from a cylon mindset. I realize some of you think he made a mistake but I think it's telling he's assuming everyone is a cylon.
Long Con wrote:Spoiler: show
You dig what I'm saying?
), so when I call one out, it's not to belittle you, it's to call attention to the mistake so that you can reread and come to a fuller understanding that your post currently lacks.You said "I think it's telling he's assuming everyone is a cylon." I wasn't assuming everyone was a Cylon, that makes no sense at all.... especially considering that there are four or five roles at the top that specifically state they cannot be Cylons. I was assuming that everyone was entitled to a free lynch stop by claiming Cylon. I missed that "If it's true..." part when I wrote my initial reaction.
Anyways, I hope this can move toward starting over. Silver, you upset me by not engaging with my posts, and by being closed-off to discussion with me. I hope that it will be different this time. Just talk to me, not at me.
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