Romance of the Three Kingdoms [ENDGAME]

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Who is a threat to the Han? Appoint two for the duel.

Poll ended at Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:14 pm

Bass_the_Clever
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Boomslang
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30%
DFaraday
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30%
Jan / Aragorn
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Nerolunar / Matahari
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Quin
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sig / indiglo
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Simon
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Zuo Ci
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Li Jue (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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reywaS wrote:
Sloonei wrote:hello reywas, have you had a chance to read anything yet? I know I was not inclined to fully catch up when I joined, and that was nearly 20 pages ago.
Not yet. I plan on trying to read through the thread today. I'm not sure I'll be able to do a full read through in one day...it's been almost a year since I played and I couldn't even fully read through 35 pages when I was in my mafia "prime". We'll see how it goes.
Don't worry, there's 44 pages, which thankfully is different than 35 :beer:

Without looking at the thread any more than you have, who do you suspect? For whatever reason
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Sloonei wrote:
reywaS wrote:
Sloonei wrote:hello reywas, have you had a chance to read anything yet? I know I was not inclined to fully catch up when I joined, and that was nearly 20 pages ago.
Not yet. I plan on trying to read through the thread today. I'm not sure I'll be able to do a full read through in one day...it's been almost a year since I played and I couldn't even fully read through 35 pages when I was in my mafia "prime". We'll see how it goes.
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Yeah, I seriously doubt I get through 35 pages of you lot in a day. lol I like to set lofty, unreachable goals.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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Sloonei wrote:I feel a bit helpless here. No idea who to vote for and <12 hours until the deadline. I'll be around most of the day if any conversation starts up (please), but I probably won't sit down and dig through the thread until we get closer to the deadline.

Still way too many people who are complete null reads.
I'm surprised, Sloonei. Of course there's a ton of null reads. Hell, some people haven't talked in eons.

Surely you've gotta have some sort of substantive reads at this point though on people.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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Scotty wrote:
reywaS wrote:
Sloonei wrote:hello reywas, have you had a chance to read anything yet? I know I was not inclined to fully catch up when I joined, and that was nearly 20 pages ago.
Not yet. I plan on trying to read through the thread today. I'm not sure I'll be able to do a full read through in one day...it's been almost a year since I played and I couldn't even fully read through 35 pages when I was in my mafia "prime". We'll see how it goes.
Don't worry, there's 44 pages, which thankfully is different than 35 :beer:

Without looking at the thread any more than you have, who do you suspect? For whatever reason
Definitely Dom. That guy is always :suspish:
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Sloon, it seems as soon as Day 5 hit, you started giving excuses for wishy-washy commitment to the game. I'd think you'd be super excited to have 3 confirmed baddies dead by day 5, but you're just "confused" and "helpless". You didn't get recruited, did you?? :scared:

I saw you voted for caps and Glorf yesterday. What's your current feel on them? (I'm sorry if you already explained your current stance, I may have missed it)
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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reywaS wrote:
Scotty wrote:
reywaS wrote:
Sloonei wrote:hello reywas, have you had a chance to read anything yet? I know I was not inclined to fully catch up when I joined, and that was nearly 20 pages ago.
Not yet. I plan on trying to read through the thread today. I'm not sure I'll be able to do a full read through in one day...it's been almost a year since I played and I couldn't even fully read through 35 pages when I was in my mafia "prime". We'll see how it goes.
Don't worry, there's 44 pages, which thankfully is different than 35 :beer:

Without looking at the thread any more than you have, who do you suspect? For whatever reason
Definitely Dom. That guy is always :suspish:
I like you.

But not like that. I have a girlfriend, dude.
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Oh, you tease
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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Scotty wrote:Sloon, it seems as soon as Day 5 hit, you started giving excuses for wishy-washy commitment to the game. I'd think you'd be super excited to have 3 confirmed baddies dead by day 5, but you're just "confused" and "helpless". You didn't get recruited, did you?? :scared:

I saw you voted for caps and Glorf yesterday. What's your current feel on them? (I'm sorry if you already explained your current stance, I may have missed it)
I got distracted by another game :o, and also have been working more since the weekend. If you look at that other game you'll see a similar pattern.
I've changed my mind on Glorfindel. He's more a null read than town though. CapeFan, I still feel uneasy about. I plan on looking into him more later and seeing what I can can out.
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insertnamehere wrote:Glorf may be the most baffling new player I've seen upon returning to the site, Non-3J division. His uber sincerity made me 101% see him as scum in BSG, but it turns out he was civ after all, and his histrionics were genuine.

So I'm gonna give him a pass for now until I can do some good old fashioned Baltimore style good po-lice work.

Yesterday I voted for CapsFan and Sorsha. Neither of them have done anything to dissuade my opinion on them, and neither has a more compelling candidate come up. I'm gonna try and make this a Groundhog Day by voting the same way again.
So you gonna vote or what?

Gotta be honest, mate. My 2nd vote is between you and Quin. And I mostly want to vote Quin because he seems far too 'appeasy" this game. I can't put into words my tone read of him besides I don't like it. If I can keep digging and come up with something a little more potent on him before EoD, I'll vote there, otherwise you're my standby.

You say you never use inactivity as a crutch in strategies in your game, which may or may not be true. But when you are around, I'm not getting any sense of urgency or care. It could be a bias since you were vaulted into a place of importance (prefect) early on. You had so much potential, like 'Suicide Squad' and 'No Man's Sky' did.

Linki: that's fair, I realize that the start of the day came at the same time of the Red V Blue start, so I'll give you that. RE: Glorf and Caps- I hover around town and mid-town for Glorf and CapsFan.
I have felt better and better about Glorf with his voting analyses- His MM iso from like Day 2 had me questioning his motives, but I'm feeling better than I did.
Caps volunteered to battle, then rescinded. I don't see anything suspicious about him right now, and several people have voted him the past 2 days and I just don't get it, and think he has talked about it after the fact sufficiently. Someone give me a real reason to vote him.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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Holy shit I forgot inh was even in this game.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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Yeah, I'm not finding anything inherently suspicious with Quin's voting history. Its just his tone this game that seems off.

I'm gonna get this party started.

Voting for DP for his bad voting and terrible explanations (none) and INH as a continuation vote from the last time I was allowed to vote.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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Mac and INH vote 2016. Beause activity needs to last beyond d1.

Ok just kidding Ill read inh's posts first.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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I'm growing more suspicious over DDL. He seems to be pushing really hard for this Mac lynch based on little more than a meta read (that he's less active than usual). Additionally, this baddie read seems to have developed just since today day. In previous days, he was even agreeing with Mac's point on Dunny.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: I find myself agreeing with Mac's point on Dunny. And something about him just feels off. Like he is just overly-defensive. I don't feel good about voting for a new player on day 1, but it's the game.
Additionally, he's refusing to even engage with the possibility of a Caps-MP connection. Can you give us anything more solid about why you turned on a dime about Mac?
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No.

If meta reads and tunneling on the same inactives since d1 are not good enough for you, then we have to disagree.

Your omgus has annoyed me enough already though. And your tunneling. You have been on a campaign to discredit every opinion of mine since I've first suspected you. That's very disingenuous.

*Votes Boomslang and Mac*
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And way to misinterpret my post on the Caps thing. Do you even know what I meant by wifom?
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote:No.

If meta reads and tunneling on the same inactives since d1 are not good enough for you, then we have to disagree.

Your omgus has annoyed me enough already though. And your tunneling. You have been on a campaign to discredit every opinion of mine since I've first suspected you. That's very disingenuous.

*Votes Boomslang and Mac*
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What's your take on DP this game, DDL?
And why not vote INH? You did mention activity should go beyond day 1. Did you actually read INH's stuff since?
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I read inh's posts, thought hey were slightly supiscious, considered voting for him later, but then Boomslang dropped that gallon of turd in front of me and it sealednthe deal. Sorry, there are bigger fish to frynthan inh.

And I have no opinions on DP.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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Boomslang you are giving a number of reasons you think I'm bad but failing to explain why thy mean anything.

Why is it bad that I suspect Mac for meta and activity. What is it bad that I'm tunneling on him and you? Why is it bad that I made the same vote as Mac back on day 1?

You can't just list everything I have done in the game, yell "BAD!" and expect to be taken seriously. You need to do more.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I read inh's posts, thought hey were slightly supiscious, considered voting for him later, but then Boomslang dropped that gallon of turd in front of me and it sealednthe deal. Sorry, there are bigger fish to frynthan inh.

And I have no opinions on DP.
You chose the OMGUS route, because Boom is doing an OMGUS on you? OMG

No opinion on DP? Really? I have an opinion on bullfighting, even though I've never seen it nor has it affected me in the slightest. Color me surprised that you have no opinion on someone that has participated enough to throw votes to POSSIBLY SWAY A LYNCH but hasn't explained the votes.

Call me mildly suspicious of you now, DDL. Strange happenings from you.
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Well I voted Boomslang first back in day 2 so there is that.

His response has been to systematically call every post of mine suspicious since then.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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I do not have opinions on all 30+ players in the game. I could pretend I have and post a GTH read, but that's stupid.
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Iirc DP has made like two posts where he does nothing but vote. He is basically interchangeable with the other 20 players who have done the same.

Is that good enough?
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Well I voted Boomslang first back in day 2 so there is that.

His response has been to systematically call every post of mine suspicious since then.
And there we are again with the wild overexaggerations! I'm sensing a pattern. C.f. from last day:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Why is it that you always seem to appear only when people mention you?
Which actually contradicts what I just did, because I attacked you without an immediate provocation. And there's another post from today as well:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:You have been on a campaign to discredit every opinion of mine since I've first suspected you. That's very disingenuous.
"Systematically," "every," "only." You know who deals in absolutes? The Sith. You are telling lies specifically to discredit me. That is the definition of bad.

Voting DDL, as well as TCF because I think the similarities in prefect vote and self-lynch desire with MP are too similar to be coincidental.
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I will stop playing mafia before I drop my dramatic and explosive style of posting.

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Huh, DDL is acting rather odd. He's suddenly all over Boomslang for calling his posts suspicious without explaining why, when in his reaction to Boom's post he is essentially doing the same exact thing. And ignoring the fact that DP's votes have been specifically suspicious? Weak, DDL. Pay attention.
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That being said, I do sort of agree with his assessment of Mac and INH, but atm I'm not feeling like either of those are strong enough suspicions to get my vote today over candidates like DP or Caps. When I ISO'd Mac I felt pretty neutral about him, and I could easily see him as a baddie hiding in the background, but DDL's tunneling of him is kinda weird. Not nearly as weird as how he briefly considered feeling the same about INH but then suddenly dropped that didn't care when Boomslang posted and caused him to (for some reason) flip the f out.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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nutella wrote:Huh, DDL is acting rather odd. He's suddenly all over Boomslang for calling his posts suspicious without explaining why, when in his reaction to Boom's post he is essentially doing the same exact thing. And ignoring the fact that DP's votes have been specifically suspicious? Weak, DDL. Pay attention.
Nutella, you put Russ in the lead right before EoD yesterday, pushing him above MP and Glorf. It was essentially a reactionary vote to Russ' vote for MP and Glorf. This is your explanation:
nutella wrote:Oh hello Russ. Showed up to vote to save yourself, huh? Probably won't work.

I'm voting Russ and Bass (in hopes of edging out Glorf)
And immediately after, you make this statement:
nutella wrote:Oh damn MP might have been the better choice to save Glorf, but I also think he's good... hrmph.
This to me seems like a false pretense. MP "might have been the better choice" and yet you think he is good? How does that make any sense? Especially in looking at your vote for Bass, which only gave him 4 votes, as opposed to MP's potential 5 vote total. Glorf ended up saving himself, which makes sense, and putting that 5th crucial vote on Mp, but yours logically makes less sense.

This is all you had to say about Bass earlier in the day:
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Turnip Head wrote:nutella what do you think about Mac or Bass?
:shrug: No idea, really. I had an okay vibe from Bass early on but he hasn't been around a ton, and that seems pretty normal for him but could go either way alignment-wise. Mac, I really don't know how to tell. Tbh I haven't noticed him very much, he seems to come in and give his two cents or point out a couple things/people he finds suspicious -- he accused me of sounding "fake" a couple times without much explanation. Someone who knows his meta better than I do said something along the lines of his style being aggressive(? was that the word they used?) and that he looked more or less his usual self, but I don't know, I've barely noticed him this game despite a decent post count. I'll ISO him right now because I'm curious now.

linki @ Golden -- I agree with you about Glorfindel. Again, I think Lorab is probably civ but I haven't liked or agreed with her tunneling lately. At the very beginning of the phase I thought I would be looking at TH and Glorfindel, but I kept an open mind and right now they're actually two of my civviest reads.
Wedged in your bigger read, you give exactly no real read on him. It's like someone asking you whether you like vanilla ice cream or chocolate ice cream more, and you answering, "I LIKE TURTLES".

This whole EoD for you seeeeems like you didn't really want Mp anywhere near the poll, and you sneakily tried to circumvent having to explain your vote to save him by apologizing that you probably-should-have-voted-MP-even-though-he's-probably-good.

I would vote you today based on this voting analysis alone. I think you could be on MP's team.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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I'm not MP's teammate. As you can see when I voted, Russ said at first that he was voting for Bass, and then switched to MP at the last minute. At the moment I voted I thought he was voting for Bass, so I also voted for Bass in hopes of getting him in second rather than Glorf. Also, I really thought MP was good. He had me fooled. While I felt fine voting for Bass because though my read of him was pretty neutral it was not as good as my read of MP.
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Also, you really think MP wanted so badly to duel his teammate? That would be quite a brave ploy, especially considering his team only had 3 members total.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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nutella wrote:I'm not MP's teammate. As you can see when I voted, Russ said at first that he was voting for Bass, and then switched to MP at the last minute. At the moment I voted I thought he was voting for Bass, so I also voted for Bass in hopes of getting him in second rather than Glorf. Also, I really thought MP was good. He had me fooled. While I felt fine voting for Bass because though my read of him was pretty neutral it was not as good as my read of MP.
So why even include the post talking about your regret in not voting MP?
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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nutella wrote:Also, you really think MP wanted so badly to duel his teammate? That would be quite a brave ploy, especially considering his team only had 3 members total.
Wait, I think I missed something. Who is MP's teammate? I thought MP is the only revealed bad guy on that team.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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nutella wrote:I'm not MP's teammate. As you can see when I voted, Russ said at first that he was voting for Bass, and then switched to MP at the last minute. At the moment I voted I thought he was voting for Bass, so I also voted for Bass in hopes of getting him in second rather than Glorf. Also, I really thought MP was good. He had me fooled. While I felt fine voting for Bass because though my read of him was pretty neutral it was not as good as my read of MP.
So why even include the post talking about your regret in not voting MP?
After I voted I realized Russ changed his mind, causing MP to have more votes than Bass, so I failed in my intention to save Glorf.
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nutella wrote:Also, you really think MP wanted so badly to duel his teammate? That would be quite a brave ploy, especially considering his team only had 3 members total.
Wait, I think I missed something. Who is MP's teammate? I thought MP is the only revealed bad guy on that team.
I'm saying that if you think I'm MP's teammate his strong desire to duel me would make no sense.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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After reviewing DP, the only suspicious thing I can say about him is that he voted on the Russ train when MM got lynched. Beyond that, he's exactly what I expect from DP.

I still think a JJJ/MP/Caps team isn't so farfetched, so I'm going to vote Caps. And people are saying that Lorab feels civ without providing any reasons, and I don't find her answers to my case very satisfactory, so I'll be voting her again as well.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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nutella wrote:
Scotty wrote:
nutella wrote:I'm not MP's teammate. As you can see when I voted, Russ said at first that he was voting for Bass, and then switched to MP at the last minute. At the moment I voted I thought he was voting for Bass, so I also voted for Bass in hopes of getting him in second rather than Glorf. Also, I really thought MP was good. He had me fooled. While I felt fine voting for Bass because though my read of him was pretty neutral it was not as good as my read of MP.
So why even include the post talking about your regret in not voting MP?
After I voted I realized Russ changed his mind, causing MP to have more votes than Bass, so I failed in my intention to save Glorf.
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nutella wrote:Also, you really think MP wanted so badly to duel his teammate? That would be quite a brave ploy, especially considering his team only had 3 members total.
Wait, I think I missed something. Who is MP's teammate? I thought MP is the only revealed bad guy on that team.
I'm saying that if you think I'm MP's teammate his strong desire to duel me would make no sense.
Oh, gotcha.

And yes, I think that is very possible. It's not like you had any amount of traction, plus if one of you won, it would make the other look good.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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I won't be on again before the day ends, so I'll give some quick thoughts:

Boomslang is reading pretty genuine to me. DDL less so, but I'm not feeling terribly bad about him either.

Scotty, Golden, and Nero (when he's around) are coming across civ to me.

I am still suspicious of Glorfindel, but I want to pursue the Caps case this time.

I do think Nutella has been blendy and rather too agreeable all game, so I need to review her posts.

I noticed that votes for Russ seem to fluctuate wildly from day to day, which gives me pause in regards to Russ voters.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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nutella wrote:I'm not MP's teammate. As you can see when I voted, Russ said at first that he was voting for Bass, and then switched to MP at the last minute. At the moment I voted I thought he was voting for Bass, so I also voted for Bass in hopes of getting him in second rather than Glorf. Also, I really thought MP was good. He had me fooled. While I felt fine voting for Bass because though my read of him was pretty neutral it was not as good as my read of MP.
Of course you're not. A team doesn't throw a way a third of its resources that easily in a 38 player game. If you're bad, you're Nanman, and if you're Nanman, then I think MP had info on you.
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I think a quick look at my D1-D2 record should dispel any idea that I could be Nanman.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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DFaraday wrote:I won't be on again before the day ends, so I'll give some quick thoughts:

Boomslang is reading pretty genuine to me. DDL less so, but I'm not feeling terribly bad about him either.

Scotty, Golden, and Nero (when he's around) are coming across civ to me.

I am still suspicious of Glorfindel, but I want to pursue the Caps case this time.

I do think Nutella has been blendy and rather too agreeable all game, so I need to review her posts.

I noticed that votes for Russ seem to fluctuate wildly from day to day, which gives me pause in regards to Russ voters.
RE: Nutella- I actually think she has been argumentative and throwing around all kinds of suspicions and seeing what sticks. Not agreeable. I would hold that honor to Quin, honestly.

I never got the Russ votes and why he went up TWICE to battle. Someone point me to more of a case.
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nutella wrote:I'm not MP's teammate. As you can see when I voted, Russ said at first that he was voting for Bass, and then switched to MP at the last minute. At the moment I voted I thought he was voting for Bass, so I also voted for Bass in hopes of getting him in second rather than Glorf. Also, I really thought MP was good. He had me fooled. While I felt fine voting for Bass because though my read of him was pretty neutral it was not as good as my read of MP.
Of course you're not. A team doesn't throw a way a third of its resources that easily in a 38 player game. If you're bad, you're Nanman, and if you're Nanman, then I think MP had info on you.
There might be some merit in this. I went back to MP's post history and forgot he launched a big ole case on Nutella early on Day 2. That could have been very dangerous indeed when there were still so many people to launch against. He comes back day 3 saying she was not a suspect, then launching back into his suspicion of her for no real reason on day 4. Lots of WIFOM here, but that is a big risk, and that does look better for Nutella.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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nutella wrote:I think a quick look at my D1-D2 record should dispel any idea that I could be Nanman.
My best question is: are you one of them Amarillo Turbanos? :grin:
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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Scotty wrote:
DFaraday wrote:I won't be on again before the day ends, so I'll give some quick thoughts:

Boomslang is reading pretty genuine to me. DDL less so, but I'm not feeling terribly bad about him either.

Scotty, Golden, and Nero (when he's around) are coming across civ to me.

I am still suspicious of Glorfindel, but I want to pursue the Caps case this time.

I do think Nutella has been blendy and rather too agreeable all game, so I need to review her posts.

I noticed that votes for Russ seem to fluctuate wildly from day to day, which gives me pause in regards to Russ voters.
RE: Nutella- I actually think she has been argumentative and throwing around all kinds of suspicions and seeing what sticks. Not agreeable. I would hold that honor to Quin, honestly.
Where have I done so? I don't feel like I've been throwing around suspicions -- I've had very few original thoughts this game. I usually go off of other people's cases and change or develop my thoughts post by post.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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Scotty wrote:
nutella wrote:I think a quick look at my D1-D2 record should dispel any idea that I could be Nanman.
My best question is: are you one of them Amarillo Turbanos? :grin:
You mean "turbantes amarillos," I think :p And no.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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Scotty wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:
Scotty wrote:I don't have lots of time today, but I'm just gonna put these statements out there:
-LoRab looks good this game.
Hey, Scotty! Can you please elaborate on this statement?
Of course, friend!
LoRab looks good and smells great this game.
O perfect Prefect! Please indulge me with a personal interpretation or definition of the word 'good' in the context of your evaluation of LoRab. Working on the presumption that she is not a member of a Mafia team, share has displayed an obstinance and and an unwillingness for logical, reasoned analysis for the last two Day phases. I don't know about you but that's not the kind of Townie I want to have my back when things get tight this game...
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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DFaraday wrote:I won't be on again before the day ends, so I'll give some quick thoughts:

Boomslang is reading pretty genuine to me. DDL less so, but I'm not feeling terribly bad about him either.

Scotty, Golden, and Nero (when he's around) are coming across civ to me.

I am still suspicious of Glorfindel, but I want to pursue the Caps case this time.

I do think Nutella has been blendy and rather too agreeable all game, so I need to review her posts.

I noticed that votes for Russ seem to fluctuate wildly from day to day, which gives me pause in regards to Russ voters.
I really wish you were around more, DF - I find myself agreeing with a lot of your opinions (your suspicions of me excluded - obviously) and I'd really Iike to hear more of your opinions.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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nutella wrote:Huh, DDL is acting rather odd. He's suddenly all over Boomslang for calling his posts suspicious without explaining why, when in his reaction to Boom's post he is essentially doing the same exact thing. And ignoring the fact that DP's votes have been specifically suspicious? Weak, DDL. Pay attention.
~Suddenly~

Whats the point of being active since the start of the game if people are gonna ignore my posts and act like I only started making my points now?

This is the third time I vote for Boomslang. Check the polls.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 3]

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Public Service: WHY DDL VOTED FOR BOOMSLANG

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Alright I don't have anything to add myself so I'm gonna make a proposition to you all.

Talk about the following people:

Boomslang
Bullzeye
Dragon D. Luffy
Elohcin
Nerolunar
Quin

All those are players with 5 or more posts, which posted on day 2 or later, and yet nobody seems to be talking about them.

Yes I included myself. I fit the above criteria so it's only fair. And it feels awkward when nobody wants me dead, I don't like it. Talk about me more please.

Don't have an opinion on them? Well it's a great time to ISO them. Go.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Not gonna quote stuff unless strictly necessary because the site is too slow.

Boomslang

A lot of talk about game mechanics on Day 0/1. Neutral read. Then votes MM/TH because they "wanted to duel". Somewhat suspicious, since you could have used all the time you discussed duel mechanics to pick a better case. But whatever it's D1.

Shows up on Day 2 again and actually starts playing in more serious way. Goes for both Jan and Sorsha, with some convincing arguments. Votes for Jan/MM "following up on his previous vote on MM". Which one, the one you picked "because he wanted to duel?" What about Sorsha?

This reeks of WIFOM. This guy is in my scum list.
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Dom wrote:Boomslang, does a careless player mean an evil player that needs to be kept on the other side of the wall?
I'd say a careless player needs to be carefully vetted until we can figure out what's going on :goofp: Case in point is Nerolunar. "I guess you could say I am guilty of saying the same thing, which I kind of am :shrug: Ugh. I am a goddamn hypocrite." I really don't like this defense. If you're calling your own behavior out as shady, you're asking us to trust your civility on nothing but your word. I agree with the punishment of BWT's self-voting, but that's about it.
That's not what I meant. I am a hypocrite because I voted timmer because of reasons(not being able to understand the game and the different arguments being thrown around) I exhibit myself. It wasn't really a "defense" more like an elaboration of my previous vote. I don't think I am acting "shady" - more the opposite by doubting my own point of view about things. If you disagree, let me know. I think you reached a little here with your interpretation.
But you still made the vote, and you still say that you didn't make it for good reasons. If we can't trust you to make informed, useful votes, how can we trust that you're working the best interests of the town?
In retrospect, no, my vote was poorly made. I know that, but nobody makes completely rational and utilitarian choices all the time, whether it is town or not. I am in no way proud of my scumhunting abilities(again, see transistor) and I have never been. I suck, I really do. But I also try to improve, especially as a civilian because thats the alignment I am worst at.

I value transparency more than anything, and being able to question or criticise my own previous line of thoughts is what ultimately will help me improve and learn from my mistakes. I don't want to cruise along faking false confidence just for the sake of appearing linear or composed.

With that said, lynch me if you want. I trust the dice.
This post makes me feel better about Nero. He is playing the game in a way similar to how I like to play myself.

And the post in the quote makes me feel worse about Boomslang. It looks like he is imposing standards to Nero that are not necessarily alignment indicative. I'd love if every player was as rational and informed as possible, but the real world doesn't work that way and I think Booms's view comes across as too naive.
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Glorfindel wrote:Just another observation here...

As I understand it, part of the case that brought MM undone was his inconsistency in voting for Dr Wilgy for Prefect on Day 0 and then voted to have him duel on Day 1 - is that correct? I note that another player did a similar thing in that Boomslang voted MM for Prefect on Day 0 and then voted him for the dueling ring on Day 1.

The vote for MM's prefecture was mid-poll (i.e. 39th out of 62) so it wasn't really influential and it was MM's only vote for Prefect. I'm not sure what this says but personally, I didn't vote anyone for Prefect about whom I had doubts :shrug:
Well, if you're not sure what it says, what do you think it says? Or is this one of those baddie "let's plant a seed without actually taking sides and hope it grows into a mighty lynching tree" moves?
Why is it that you always seem to appear only when people mention you?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:No.

If meta reads and tunneling on the same inactives since d1 are not good enough for you, then we have to disagree.

Your omgus has annoyed me enough already though. And your tunneling. You have been on a campaign to discredit every opinion of mine since I've first suspected you. That's very disingenuous.

*Votes Boomslang and Mac*
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Boomslang you are giving a number of reasons you think I'm bad but failing to explain why thy mean anything.

Why is it bad that I suspect Mac for meta and activity. What is it bad that I'm tunneling on him and you? Why is it bad that I made the same vote as Mac back on day 1?

You can't just list everything I have done in the game, yell "BAD!" and expect to be taken seriously. You need to do more.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Well I voted Boomslang first back in day 2 so there is that.

His response has been to systematically call every post of mine suspicious since then.
The next post is the Mac one.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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Public Service: WHY DDL VOTED FOR MAC

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Also one think I just noticed: for all the meta talk about how Mac likes to pressure people and play aggressively, I don't recall seeing him do that since day 1. It's like he just attacked people enough to make people say "yep, that's the Mac we all know" then got satisfied and slipped into the shadows.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Also one think I just noticed: for all the meta talk about how Mac likes to pressure people and play aggressively, I don't recall seeing him do that since day 1. It's like he just attacked people enough to make people say "yep, that's the Mac we all know" then got satisfied and slipped into the shadows.
I agree. I think Mac is phoning it in atm.
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nutella wrote:Mac, I really don't know how to tell. Tbh I haven't noticed him very much, he seems to come in and give his two cents or point out a couple things/people he finds suspicious -- he accused me of sounding "fake" a couple times without much explanation. Someone who knows his meta better than I do said something along the lines of his style being aggressive(? was that the word they used?) and that he looked more or less his usual self, but I don't know, I've barely noticed him this game despite a decent post count. I'll ISO him right now because I'm curious now.
I think that's my main vibe re: Mac this game. He doesn't seem as conversational as I'm used to seeing him. He sort of just dips in and out and doesn't stir up too much trouble.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I've decided I want to uphold Turnip Head's legacy. I am voting for Mac today.

He went AWOL after Day 1, when people were commenting on how aggressive he was. Now he just shows up once a day and drops a vote on Dunny.

This sounds like it was done on purpose. He stayed agressive until people said "this is the Mac we all know!" and then vanished when it was good enough.

Mac needs to go.

I just need to find another person to vote for. I wanna vote Boomslang (again) and Russ (again), but will wait another day to see if I get something more fresh to vote for.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Actually, I just looked at his ISO and he didn't disappear completely, but his playstyle is way less aggressive than how it was on day 1. Now he just sitcks to making small length comments on low posters (dunny, BWT, Simon, etc) and defending Dom (WIFOMWIFOMWIFOMWIFOM).
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The next person to claim that I only started suspecting Booms or Mac now will get voted in the following lynch poll. If you are not reading the game, at least admit it.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote:The next person to claim that I only started suspecting Booms or Mac now will get voted in the following lynch poll. If you are not reading the game, at least admit it.
You only started suspecting Boom and Mac right now!

Just kidding. I admit that I'm not reading the game.

I do, however, think you have a much higher chance of being right about Mac than you do about Boom. I'm good with Boom.

My possible votes right now - CapsFan, DP, Simon (not sure why people keep sleeping on Simon, some good evidence was raised about why he is Nanman and he seems to have vanished since it was)... maybe Mac on the outside, although I'm kind of suspicious about how much love he is getting for a vote all at once.
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 5]

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I don't get what people are seeing in DP when he has an ISO that is shorter than this sentence I am writing right now.

You might as well have the same probability of success by voting for Soneji (if he were still alive).

Where I come from, we don't lynch people like DP. We wait for the host to modkill/replace them.
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