Phenon Mafia: ENDGAME - Snuffed

#3901

Long Con wrote:
juliets wrote:
Long Con wrote:I don't have a lot of time right now, I just wanted to catch up on the night's posts. I'll just give a rainbow for now, then do farm chores, shower, and go to work... arriving home in perhaps 5 hours from now, give or take half an hour. Then some family time and dinner, but that still leaves time within that 13 hours before lynch time.

Nutella
Golden
Dyslexicon
Quin
Sloonei
Elohcin
juliets
Soneji
insertnamehere
Fredwood
Scotty
Strawhenge
Jackofhearts
JJJ
Speedchuck
LC, I forgot to ask you yesterday what made you read me as orange? Also, are there any of these reads you would change at this point?
Absolutely, there have definitely been developments since my last list... JJJJ getting confirmed town is the glaringly obvious one (RIP nutella - you may end up as MVP of this game). I'll try to cobble together a new one in my next post.

I want to apologize for being absent and missing the vote yesterday, and for not showing up until now today. I got sick. I don't know if it was stomach flu or food poisoning, but I ended up in bed after dinner, feeling nauseous and achy... and although I am the King of Not Throwing Up, I dealt with lots and lots of...
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Last night I was pretty much over that unpleasantness, but my legs were aching insanely... walking around, lying down, sitting, stretching, nothing helped them. So I went to bed around 8:30, had the craziest dreams ever, and woke up around 7:30 feeling back to normal, slightly hungry.

And y'all talk so much! I read through the stuff since the night post. JJJ, your level of analysis is way beyond what I am able to put into most Mafia games, so kudos to you. Do you have a job, or sleep at all? I trust Quin, he's one of the good ones. He's been interrogated plenty, and I haven't seen anything that makes him look suspicious or lying to me. Jack, on the other hand, was gung-ho to take Quin down, and now his arguments read more like he is afraid that if he lets go too easily, he'll look bad... but he knows he needs to let go. Something like "If you're Mafia, you're lying, and if you're town, you're helping the Mafia." Like, seriously? It's ok to admit you were wrong, unless you have an investment in clinging to a perspective. Doesn't look good.

I became his second top town read, after the confirmed townie. Various posts about genuinity, belief in my doctor claim, then:

Long Con wrote:
Quin wrote:
Long Con wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm willing to reconsider. I don't have any reads worth a damn. Convince me, LC. Were you instrumental in getting MM lynched?
Yes. Each of the five votes for MM were essential. One missing, and he would have walked.
Why were you specifically instrumental to the case? What did you bring to the table?
Vote Quin

I think Soneji is the easy vote, not the right vote. After Jack's flip (RIP) I have reevaluated Quin. I thought Jack was being disingenuous about him, but it turns out he was probably right.

The tunneling dead guy is now right about me because he was civ.

#3902

That first post would have made Epi flip his shit btw

#3903

juliets wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
juliets wrote:**Because he seems to have disappeared but unlike Elo hasn't asked for replacement. I need to read through his posts.
Thanks for the reads, juliets. I think you forgot Elohcin though; where'd she be situated on the ol' rainbow?
I think I also forgot Quin.

Quin would be in light green and Eloh would be in yellow.

What information could juliets have received mid-day that would make me fall from light green to a vote (I think)?

#3904

Interaction of Soneji and DFaraday / juliets

Soneji stuff

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Same little list of non-posters included DFaraday as possible lynches better than sig.

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This is a really complex reason offered by Soneji to cast suspicion upon juliets. I've decided it's null for her though because of course his read was manufactured. He was bad.

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Neutral doctor claim chatter.

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This again. As it pertains to juliets, this again tells me little.

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Oops. I might buy this as a straight up spew that juliets is town.

juliets stuff

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Werd. I think juliets sounds authentic in this prod given her recent experience in other games with Soneji.

Dang yellow again in a dang rainbow

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Soneji is mentioned here as juliets presses Fredwood for expanded reads.

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juliets laments about her struggles reading Soneji in other games. I have no qualms with this.

Day 4 reads list - she names Soneji as a top suspect alongside Quin

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I'm not exactly sure why she called upon Soneji and Golden with this question. I could be missing context. More chatter with Soneji about Quin

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She requested an updated case against Soneji, granting that she was aware of the Marmot interactions. This is a little curious given her prior stance that he was a top suspect on her reads list.

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juliets pulling her hair out as she tries to figure out what the hell I am doing at EOD4. She left her vote there.

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Conclusion

There are a couple of interesting moments here that I'd like juliets to talk about when she is able. For the most part I think she still looks fine though.

#3905

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You don't say a suspect is 'leaning more town', you say that a suspect is 'the least suspicious'.

You don't say a town read is 'not in my top suspects', you say that a town read is ...a town read.

So which was I, Fredwood?

#3906

speedchuck wrote:Would rather kill Soneji than Strawhenge at the moment. Gut feeling. Probably need to find out why that is.

Strawhenge had posted twice and had been mentioned zero times that day. I don't think Soneji had posted once. Weird that speedchuck would bring them up so straightforwardly.

#3907

Interaction of Soneji and Dyslexicon

Soneji stuff

*85 search results for "Dys"*

Firmly refuted the Dizzy slip after Dizzy had provided the link to the previous game. I think this was obvious as hell, so whatever.

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This looks like typical scum high-roading of an easy target getting easily targeted. Good look for Dizzy.

Most of the other mentions feature Soneji disparaging other players for their treatment of Dizzy during/after SlipGate, so it's more of the same.

Dyslexicon stuff

I don't feel like doing this. It's a lot of posts and I already know my read.

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Conclusion

Dyslexicon continues to look fine.

#3908

Interaction of Soneji and Fredwood

Soneji tried to make Fredwood his whipping boy. Obvious. Not lynching. Not bothering with interactive analysis.

#3909

Interaction of Soneji and Strawhenge

Soneji stuff

Soneji didn't say anything to or mention Strawhenge.

Strawhenge stuff

No mention until Day 4.

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Strawhenge is cranky about Dizzy trying to shoot his brains out (or Soneji).

Sub-yellow in a rainbow -- At least it's not dang yellow again. It's like yellow-orange.

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I recommended shooting someone hard to lynch so that Soneji could be lynched. Strawhenge wanted suggestions, presumably for the gunshot. Only vaguely relevant.

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Asserted that Quin is bad with Soneji and voted for Quin. Strawhenge, why did you associate these two? His vote stayed here.

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Conclusion

I think the best look for Strawhenge is that Soneji completely forgot he existed. Contrary to popular belief I don't think that's a teammate indicator. The worst look for Strawhenge is the Quin vote on Day 4.

Call Strawhenge a backup suspect.

#3910

After all that shit clearly my top suspects are Long Con and Golden. I hope to hear from y'all about my analyses. If I said a dumb thing somewhere come and tell me, because otherwise I am going to just keep roasting here in Confident Mode. I'm feeling good.

#3911

Dyslexicon wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Not necessarily. He listed the following as possible roles he might possess: doctor, bodyguard, nexus, guide, and "unculter" (irrelevant in a game with no cult).
Why is he not just outright claiming then, if he's going this far?
Nexus, I've seen in use differently than how he explains it. Basically I'm used to this being a passive role and an X-shot, which redirects any action being made against you to a random target. I've also only seen it used for non-town roles. It's rather rare.
Guide, I hadn't even heard of.
Doctor is problematic if Quin claims doctor, as is bodyguard.
I think Nut being strongman killed is pretty likely.

Dizzy makes a point that the balance is off if the role Jack wants to claim is protective in some way. I mentioned the possibility of either a role blocker or a strongman, and Dizzy went with Strongman. Ironically, Strongman is the one that makes the most sense given the protective claims we've had.

Why was strongman more likely than role blocker?

#3912

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:After all that shit clearly my top suspects are Long Con and Golden. I hope to hear from y'all about my analyses. If I said a dumb thing somewhere come and tell me, because otherwise I am going to just keep roasting here in Confident Mode. I'm feeling good.

woaaaaaaaaaaah

I haven't read them. I'll take a look at some point after I finished my read through. Read my stuff in the meantime

#3913

An argument against a strongman's existence might be that Sloonei just died. Unless he was the deliberate target, a strongman typically pierces a bodyguard's protection. There's also the potential of a limited-shot strongman.

#3914

Quin wrote:Read my stuff in the meantime

I am. I appreciate the prods and questions and will simply allow the people you're addressing to answer for themselves.

#3915

Golden wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Golden: is there anything holding you back from claiming the remainder of your watch targets if you haven't already?
I will if there ever comes a time to call someone's bluff, but I can't see any reason to throw out people who no one else watched. It could both make my target set more predictable, and also reduce the target area for baddies to lie in.

These are bad excuses. Your target set will change every day. It's unpredictable enough on its own.

#3916

Dyslexicon wrote:
juliets wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I'm also a little suspicious of Long Con and Juliets. But I still feel like I should shoot either Jack or Quin.
I know this isn't top priority but why are you suspicious of me?
Because you're name is an annagram of "just lie".

oh my shit

#3917

speedchuck wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
speedchuck wrote:It's amazing that anyone has dies in this game.
Do you have any thoughts to add to this current setup discussion?
Unfortunately, not much.

The setup claims not to have any mod bastardry, meaning that roles probably do what they say they do. I think that's what it means.

So that could be important.

I am not a protective role, if that helps.

I don't believe that my role's sanity should be questioned after this post.

#3918

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:An argument against a strongman's existence might be that Sloonei just died. Unless he was the deliberate target, a strongman typically pierces a bodyguard's protection. There's also the potential of a limited-shot strongman.

It's possible Sloonei was the intended kill. Removing him now removes an element of surprise if the baddies ever have a specific kill in mind and they get a surprise Sloonei flip instead.

#3919

Could be. He was a consensus town read anyway, and Sloonei is a top tier civilian in general.

#3920

Long Con wrote:As Sloonei was possibly gearing up to shoot me, I'd say that my claim was made for good reason.

45 minutes after the initial post where he claimed he gave Sloonei the gun. Nobody asked. This is classic overcompensation.

#3921

juliets wrote:Fred, when you come on today and after you catch up would you give a set of reads please?

Also guys, just trying to put the pieces together, is a stump someone who doesn't talk or vote? And does it make sense that you would "activate" your stumpiness? I'm just totally unfamiliar with a role like this.

I can't help with the balance issues, I generally don't host and when I do, have help with balance.

Stumps start as vanilla townies but can activate their powers, which does two things

1) They lose the ability to vote
2) They cannot be targeted by any actions

I'm not sure if this carries between all interpretations, but the stump stops counting as part of the town/mafia ratio. For example, if there's a game with a ratio of 8:3 and one townie becomes a stump, that ratio will become 7:3. The role would still win with town, but it's technically not aligned with any faction after that point.

A stump role is a role that's best suited to a driver of discussion, a supatown.

#3922

Stumps are removed from the lynch poll as well.

#3923

Long Con wrote:I'm sorry, did you get that gun from an item vote, Sloonei? My mistake.

Yuck.

#3924

juliets wrote:So then for those who think Quin is civ, the dynamic would be he was blocked by the good role blocker and JJJ by the baddie role blocker?

Were we considering good and bad variants of the same role at this point in Day 4?

#3925

Sloonei wrote:
Golden wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Golden wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:I want Golden's night results.

Claiming watcher puts a target on your back. Doing so without bringing forward good information is unnecessary.

I can understand some hesitancy to reveal night information due to the possibility of outing say, the doctor, but I think that ship has sailed.

We already ran into trouble with Golden misinterpreting his information (thinking Marmot had busdriver JJJ and Fred). I wouldn't be surprised (assuming Golden is town) if there was a useful gem of information for the town in those results.
Bullshit. We didn't run into any trouble with me misinterpreting information. I made the claim specifically because I was trying to draw out whether or not jay was bad (I mean, it followed from my claim that I was misdirected). Then I gave accurate information that I did not misinterpret.

I have been very clear that I saw no one but me in my watching results the last two nights. What 'useful gem of information' do you think is in there? Because I can only think of one, and that is knowing who I've targeted, and I think that's of more use to scum than town.
Why are you alive? Why did you not watch the publicly exposed vigilante and cop the last two nights?
These questions seem oddly contradictory.
You're right. But on the one hand, you claim to be an unlimited-shot watcher (I think) while all the other roles in the game seem somehow limited, and you're also apparently holding the map, yet you've gone untouched by the mafia.

On the other hand we've had two publicly outed town power roles who you've failed to watch over at night. Two separate possible angles to doubt the validity of your claim.

Ironically, Soneji pointed it out.

Having an unlimited shot watcher and and three shot tracker sucks as far as balance goes. For the sake of balance, it should be the other way around if it exists at all. I looked up roles once and saw people that considered the watcher role as overpowered.

#3926

LC only gave a gun on Night 2, because Soneji could only give a gun every even night. A baddie has a bulletproof vest right now, going by Soneji's role, as well.

#3927

Soneji wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Soneji wrote:
Sloonei wrote:hey soneji why shouldn't I shoot you?
Because I'm town.
Who does town soneji propose I shoot instead? Who did you vote for on Night 2?
I voted for you N2.

I would be inclined to say Fredwood but no one shares said suspicion. Shoot Golden.

I can picture Golden having said vest.

#3928

I do have the vest.

I've been played like a fiddle. I know I have to be lynched after lc, I can't be at lylp at this point. It sucks.

But I do think we are on solid track to win this despite me, so go town!

#3929

My watcher role is not overpowered.

#3930

Just answering some questions from the night and then asking a question. Hopefully I got everything:

speedchuck wrote: Also, Juliets: Could the protection you ran across be a vest in any way?

No sorry, I wish it could be explained by a phenomena like this.

speedchuck wrote: Just saying: Juliets and Quin are not claiming the same role. Numerous elements point to that.

Correct.

Quin wrote:juliets, when did you come to the conclusion that it's likely that I'm not town based on my role claim?

The night I brought it out for the first time in here. That was Feb. 22, looks like it was the first night of Day 4.

Quin wrote:
juliets wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
juliets wrote:**Because he seems to have disappeared but unlike Elo hasn't asked for replacement. I need to read through his posts.
Thanks for the reads, juliets. I think you forgot Elohcin though; where'd she be situated on the ol' rainbow?
I think I also forgot Quin.

Quin would be in light green and Eloh would be in yellow.
What information could juliets have received mid-day that would make me fall from light green to a vote (I think)?

I clarified something with the host.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: She requested an updated case against Soneji, granting that she was aware of the Marmot interactions. This is a little curious given her prior stance that he was a top suspect on her reads list.

I had forgotten what other people were seeing that was so damning. I had momentarily forgotten the part about Soneji sitting out the EOD on INH v. Jack by sitting on Fred which was part of the reason for my finding Soneji at the bottom of my reads list early that morning.

Quin wrote:
juliets wrote:So then for those who think Quin is civ, the dynamic would be he was blocked by the good role blocker and JJJ by the baddie role blocker?
Were we considering good and bad variants of the same role at this point in Day 4?

I don't know the answer to this question but I have been considering any possible way you could be good and what I know could be true, so I am twisting and turning roles in my head.

Golden wrote:I do have the vest.

I've been played like a fiddle. I know I have to be lynched after lc, I can't be at lylp at this point. It sucks.

But I do think we are on solid track to win this despite me, so go town!

I hope this isn't a stupid question but when did you get the vest? And why would they give a vest to a civ instead of giving it to one of their own?

With sprityo's answer to JJJ's question LC really looks bad. I don't see a way he could be good at this point but maybe there is something I'm not seeing. I'm not going to vote for him yet because as someone pointed out there is no hurry and it's not a good thing I don't think for us to pile up votes fast.

Also Quin thanks for explaining the stump in more detail. I don't know where Scotty played before (Scotty where have you played before?) but I have never heard of this role coming up on the syndicate. Is it a role that comes up a lot elsewhere? I tend to read Scotty as light civ at the moment.

Why did Sloonei die? I understand he was confirmed civ but we have another confirmed civ and someone who is claiming doctor. Why him over others?

#3931

Golden wrote:I do have the vest.

I've been played like a fiddle. I know I have to be lynched after lc, I can't be at lylp at this point. It sucks.

But I do think we are on solid track to win this despite me, so go town!

So you say you've been set up? That Mafia spent a night phase- Soneji's only real night phase to use his power- to give you a protective vest, and you're good? That's like taking antibiotics for bronchitis when I sprain my knee. What a 'Long Con' that would be.

Also, what do you think of the other suspects? You obviously think LC should be lynched before you, even though you ended with a vote for Quin yesterday. Where's your head at, G? Obviously not with town.

I'm definitely probably most likely voting you today

#3932

Scotty wrote:
Golden wrote:I do have the vest.

I've been played like a fiddle. I know I have to be lynched after lc, I can't be at lylp at this point. It sucks.

But I do think we are on solid track to win this despite me, so go town!
So you say you've been set up? That Mafia spent a night phase- Soneji's only real night phase to use his power- to give you a protective vest, and you're good? That's like taking antibiotics for bronchitis when I sprain my knee. What a 'Long Con' that would be.

Golden, if Soneji gave you the vest on night 2 then who gave Sloonei the gun on night 2? Am I just confused about the night 2 actions?

#3933

That linki thingy nearly killed me EoD. Everytime I tried posting my vote someone else had posted.

@JJJ, Good work with the ISOs. One question - is your read on Juliets based on meta and stuff as well? What is your experience with her?

My bf is visiting this weekend, so I will not be around that much. However, I do count on being able to read everything and at least give input at some point during the day. Honestly I didn't quite expect to be in this game for such a long time, but it's all very nice and all.

I feel town is in a good place, however, we should probably not get complacant. Also, apparently there's a marker as well, so that should probably make us worried. I have thoughts about who I think is definitely town (as I think the marker can be 3p), but there's only a couple tbh.

Long Con looks sure scum though.

#3934

Also, can we move past the who did what on what night? Golden is being a bit dense about taking in information. And everyone is confused about something they don't even need to care about.

#3935

Ah. And votes are not changeable in this poll I just found out.
So..maybe don't just pick a direction like I just did

#3936

Dyslexicon wrote:Also, can we move past the who did what on what night? Golden is being a bit dense about taking in information. And everyone is confused about something they don't even need to care about.

Move past it? I think it's integral to solving the game. Golden being dense does not a townie golden make, IMO.

What do you think of Golden, and how he's handled the game of late, Dys?

#3937

Scotty wrote:Ah. And votes are not changeable in this poll I just found out.
So..maybe don't just pick a direction like I just did

Oh wow, thanks for the warning.

#3938

Scotty wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:Also, can we move past the who did what on what night? Golden is being a bit dense about taking in information. And everyone is confused about something they don't even need to care about.
Move past it? I think it's integral to solving the game. Golden being dense does not a townie golden make, IMO.

What do you think of Golden, and how he's handled the game of late, Dys?

I don't think a dense Golden makes a townie Golden at all. He's nullish to me, and I don't think he having the map and no useful watcher-result is a good look for him. I'm also not entirely caught up.

#3939

Dyslexicon wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:Also, can we move past the who did what on what night? Golden is being a bit dense about taking in information. And everyone is confused about something they don't even need to care about.
Move past it? I think it's integral to solving the game. Golden being dense does not a townie golden make, IMO.

What do you think of Golden, and how he's handled the game of late, Dys?
I don't think a dense Golden makes a townie Golden at all. He's nullish to me, and I don't think he having the map and no useful watcher-result is a good look for him. I'm also not entirely caught up.

Ah ok.

Would love to hear your opinion once you are!

#3940

Dyslexicon wrote:Also, can we move past the who did what on what night? Golden is being a bit dense about taking in information. And everyone is confused about something they don't even need to care about.

I'm sorry if it's annoying. I don't understand it and until I do I have to ask questions. It's the only way I know how to play mafia.

#3941

juliets wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:Also, can we move past the who did what on what night? Golden is being a bit dense about taking in information. And everyone is confused about something they don't even need to care about.
I'm sorry if it's annoying. I don't understand it and until I do I have to ask questions. It's the only way I know how to play mafia.

Since we're still on that track, where do you currently stand on the Quin claim? (I know Quin doesn't want this brought up again, but its as muddy as a an ogre swamp in here) are you saying you have information that conflicts definitely, or that you think conflicts probably?

#3942

Scotty wrote:
juliets wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:Also, can we move past the who did what on what night? Golden is being a bit dense about taking in information. And everyone is confused about something they don't even need to care about.
I'm sorry if it's annoying. I don't understand it and until I do I have to ask questions. It's the only way I know how to play mafia.
Since we're still on that track, where do you currently stand on the Quin claim? (I know Quin doesn't want this brought up again, but its as muddy as a an ogre swamp in here) are you saying you have information that conflicts definitely, or that you think conflicts probably?

I think it conflicts probably. If I knew more about character set-up of closed games I might be able to say conflicts definitely.

#3943

juliets wrote:
Scotty wrote:
juliets wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:Also, can we move past the who did what on what night? Golden is being a bit dense about taking in information. And everyone is confused about something they don't even need to care about.
I'm sorry if it's annoying. I don't understand it and until I do I have to ask questions. It's the only way I know how to play mafia.
Since we're still on that track, where do you currently stand on the Quin claim? (I know Quin doesn't want this brought up again, but its as muddy as a an ogre swamp in here) are you saying you have information that conflicts definitely, or that you think conflicts probably?
I think it conflicts probably. If I knew more about character set-up of closed games I might be able to say conflicts definitely.

I still know nothing, but that's ok- I'm in a good place.

I just saw A Dogs Purpose last night and now I'm crying like a bitch. For the 12th time since.

#3944

Scotty wrote:
juliets wrote:
Scotty wrote:
juliets wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:Also, can we move past the who did what on what night? Golden is being a bit dense about taking in information. And everyone is confused about something they don't even need to care about.
I'm sorry if it's annoying. I don't understand it and until I do I have to ask questions. It's the only way I know how to play mafia.
Since we're still on that track, where do you currently stand on the Quin claim? (I know Quin doesn't want this brought up again, but its as muddy as a an ogre swamp in here) are you saying you have information that conflicts definitely, or that you think conflicts probably?
I think it conflicts probably. If I knew more about character set-up of closed games I might be able to say conflicts definitely.

I still know nothing, but that's ok- I'm in a good place.

I just saw A Dogs Purpose last night and now I'm crying like a bitch. For the 12th time since.

That's why I don't go to movies about pets. Would never make it through.

#3945

I just re-read Sloonei's role and now I see probably why he died. Duh. I had not had my coffee when I asked that question.

#3946

juliets wrote:Also Quin thanks for explaining the stump in more detail. I don't know where Scotty played before (Scotty where have you played before?) but I have never heard of this role coming up on the syndicate. Is it a role that comes up a lot elsewhere? I tend to read Scotty as light civ at the moment.

I just saw this.
I started on Jesus Toast Mafia before migrating here due to stagnation. I've never heard of a stump either. I looked it up and it says that it commonly has an opposing wood cutter mechanism from the baddies that could eliminate me once I activated, so that, coupled with my lack of supatown presence, has kept me on edge.

Also I lied. I never was role blocked on night 2 (or maybe I was, I just didn't do anything). I merely didn't want to activate until i haaaad to and didn't feel like claiming fully yet. I also lied in that I forgot to activate on night 3. I don't forget night actions. I just don't want to activate if I can help it because it's counterproductive.

#3947

Scotty wrote:
juliets wrote:Also Quin thanks for explaining the stump in more detail. I don't know where Scotty played before (Scotty where have you played before?) but I have never heard of this role coming up on the syndicate. Is it a role that comes up a lot elsewhere? I tend to read Scotty as light civ at the moment.
I just saw this.
I started on Jesus Toast Mafia before migrating here due to stagnation. I've never heard of a stump either. I looked it up and it says that it commonly has an opposing wood cutter mechanism from the baddies that could eliminate me once I activated, so that, coupled with my lack of supatown presence, has kept me on edge.

Also I lied. I never was role blocked on night 2 (or maybe I was, I just didn't do anything). I merely didn't want to activate until i haaaad to and didn't feel like claiming fully yet. I also lied in that I forgot to activate on night 3. I don't forget night actions. I just don't want to activate if I can help it because it's counterproductive.

Thanks Scotty and thanks for coming clean on the fact that you lied. Interesting that there's commonly a woodcutter, another role I've never heard of. One thing is for sure I'm gaining an awful lot of knowledge about potential roles.

#3948

fixed poll, you can change em now

#3949

Quin wrote:
Long Con wrote:As Sloonei was possibly gearing up to shoot me, I'd say that my claim was made for good reason.
45 minutes after the initial post where he claimed he gave Sloonei the gun. Nobody asked. This is classic overcompensation.

That's bull, it was in direct response to XXX saying that the claims made were ill-timed to the extreme.

Quin wrote:
Long Con wrote:I'm sorry, did you get that gun from an item vote, Sloonei? My mistake.
Yuck.

You're yuck.

juliets wrote:
Scotty wrote:I just saw A Dogs Purpose last night and now I'm crying like a bitch. For the 12th time since.
That's why I don't go to movies about pets. Would never make it through.

I watched Marley and Me up until the dog started to get sick, then I stopped watching. It was a nice movie.

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LOL I meant to go back and replace 'XXX' with the name of the player... then I forgot, and posted.

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