Lost Again Mafia (Season 3) - Day 5

#751

In the meantime, speedchuck- why are you voting me when your belief is that Sorsha is bad too and I'm throwing her under the bus?

#752

Epignosis wrote:In the meantime, speedchuck- why are you voting me when your belief is that Sorsha is bad too and I'm throwing her under the bus?

If I vote sorsha, and she does happen to be your scummate:
Sorsha dies.
MP dies.

You easily glide to a speedchuck lynch without MP here.
Town loses.

It's also quite possible, as per your defense and MP's scumreads, that I'm wrong about Dom, that he is your teammate, and you are defending him.
Basically, I consider the Epi/Sorsha and Epi/Dom worlds to be more likely than the Sorsha/Dom. I think. I'm still prone to switching.

#753

speedchuck wrote:
Epignosis wrote:In the meantime, speedchuck- why are you voting me when your belief is that Sorsha is bad too and I'm throwing her under the bus?
If I vote sorsha, and she does happen to be your scummate:
Sorsha dies.
MP dies.

You easily glide to a speedchuck lynch without MP here.
Town loses.

It's also quite possible, as per your defense and MP's scumreads, that I'm wrong about Dom, that he is your teammate, and you are defending him.
Basically, I consider the Epi/Sorsha and Epi/Dom worlds to be more likely than the Sorsha/Dom. I think. I'm still prone to switching.

Again, I like you because you are talking.

Let's not vote each other. I'm not bad. I think you are, but I'm willing to lynch someone else before you.

If you aren't bad, then it would make sense to consider someone other than me.

#754

. . .

Alright.

And no use asking you who to vote for because if we are both town, Dom AND Sorsha would be scum. :P
I'll leave it on Sorsha for now, and hope that MP has some insight when he returns.

#755

speedchuck wrote:. . .

Alright.

And no use asking you who to vote for because if we are both town, Dom AND Sorsha would be scum. :P
I'll leave it on Sorsha for now, and hope that MP has some insight when he returns.

That is precisely what I was about to consider. Dom is smart enough to pull a gambit like that, and he's been acting clueless the entire time. I think Sorsha is the way to go for now.

#756

Can I get a meta-reference to you defending an AFK scummate? Maybe even 2 or 3?

#757

speedchuck wrote:
Dom wrote:why do you care who looks worse to MP?
MP provided two rainbows, a single and a dual one. In context, I was trying to understand the state of the game from his perspective. Nothing more. What are you looking for?

But whose WORSE MP?!

#758

WHO'S*****

#759

speedchuck wrote:Can I get a meta-reference to you defending an AFK scummate? Maybe even 2 or 3?

Vocaroo is the only one I remember.

I had civilian BTSC with Made in a recent Burglary, but he never showed up and I got lynched.

#760

Frankly, if you're bad speed, I'm cool with you winning. Sorsha and Dom aren't doing shit. It'll be yet another mark on The Syndicate where civilians do absolutely nothing and lose for other people.

Hopefully they're bad though.

#761

I don't know what to say to that. Well played.

I'm voting Dom.

It shouldn't be hard to understand why, given my thought process in my last few posts. It's not OMGUS. I'm going to bed. I'll be around tomorrow. Hopefully for more discussion.

#762

#763

I thought about something and came back:

speedchuck wrote:
Marmot wrote:And for my next trick, I'll do a Sockface impersonation.
Dyslexicon
Epignosis
FZ.
DrWilgy
Elohcin
insertnamehere
JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con
Luke11646
MovingPictures07
speedchuck
nutella
Does the order of the yellows matter?

This is a quote from Currents Mafia, Dom, a towngame of mine.

Dom, I'm voting you because, FMPOV, it's either you and Epi, you and Sorsha, or Sorsha and Epi. If Epi is really the player he says he is (and if not I have a whole day to change), then he is not teamed with sorsha. That leaves...

#764

that doesn't logically lead you to lynch me.

#765

That last line of my post does, actually.

#766

I'm voting Epignosis. I implore every other member of the town to do the same.

#767

Epignosis clearly doesn't give a fuck who goes as long as it's not him. He's not town.

#768

I also don't trust any of you all as far as I can throw you, but I don't think lynching the less-than-active Dom or Sorsha is the way to go. I see nothing in Sorsha's post history that seems that scummy, and I don't like how speedchuck is behaving this phase.

I'm considering all of you, but I still think it's Epi and speedchuck. Just look at the way they've interacted with DF and each other all game.

#769

MovingPictures07 wrote:Epignosis clearly doesn't give a fuck who goes as long as it's not him. He's not town.

Congrats on the loss.

#770

Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Epignosis clearly doesn't give a fuck who goes as long as it's not him. He's not town.
Congrats on the loss.

Or the win. I really don't know.

#771

MovingPictures07 wrote:I also don't trust any of you all as far as I can throw you, but I don't think lynching the less-than-active Dom or Sorsha is the way to go. I see nothing in Sorsha's post history that seems that scummy, and I don't like how speedchuck is behaving this phase.

I'm considering all of you, but I still think it's Epi and speedchuck. Just look at the way they've interacted with DF and each other all game.

The object of the game for mafia is to not "seem scummy." She doesn't have anything that "seems scummy" because she doesn't have anything.

#772

That said, I feel less comfortable with my suspicion of speedchuck. I feel pretty damn sure Epi is bad news.

Epignosis wrote:Frankly, if you're bad speed, I'm cool with you winning. Sorsha and Dom aren't doing shit. It'll be yet another mark on The Syndicate where civilians do absolutely nothing and lose for other people.

Hopefully they're bad though.

No member of the town would ever say this. If you're invested in your team's win, you realize that if other players aren't playing then that's just an obstacle you have to overcome and sort those players to the best of your ability, just like anyone else. You wouldn't ever be "OK" with someone else winning just because town may have two inactive members.

If I've only been in this game for a cycle and I already feel invested enough to want to work really hard to win this game for town.

I also find the post to be TMI. It reads as if Epi knows that Dom and Sorsha are town. speedchuck had a similar TMI post that I pointed out in his ISO regarding notsawyer and nutella.

All of that said, I wish S~V~S would get her head in this game, because her lackluster performance this Day has me tinfoiling her hard.

#773

Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Epignosis clearly doesn't give a fuck who goes as long as it's not him. He's not town.
Congrats on the loss.

Seriously, quit it with the emotional manipulation. Another reason I think you're bad.

#774

Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I also don't trust any of you all as far as I can throw you, but I don't think lynching the less-than-active Dom or Sorsha is the way to go. I see nothing in Sorsha's post history that seems that scummy, and I don't like how speedchuck is behaving this phase.

I'm considering all of you, but I still think it's Epi and speedchuck. Just look at the way they've interacted with DF and each other all game.
The object of the game for mafia is to not "seem scummy." She doesn't have anything that "seems scummy" because she doesn't have anything.

You are so fucking bad.

#775

I gave a full ISO of Sorsha on the other page. I analyzed her voting history. There's enough there to at least try to analyze here, and I don't think she's bad. But if she is bad, we can figure it out after we lynch someone else who's been more involved. Fuck this voting inactives shit. That's a cop-out right now, Epi, and it's so indicative of your entire attitude all game: You've gone after everyone when it was convenient to do so. You're not going after anyone with an attempt to sort them.

You're bad. Let's lynch Epi NOW.

#776

Hopefully this isn't too on-topic for a dead person, but what does MP mean by TMI? I thought "too much information," but it doesn't make sense in that context. I'm still getting used to these mafia acronyms.

#777

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I also don't trust any of you all as far as I can throw you, but I don't think lynching the less-than-active Dom or Sorsha is the way to go. I see nothing in Sorsha's post history that seems that scummy, and I don't like how speedchuck is behaving this phase.

I'm considering all of you, but I still think it's Epi and speedchuck. Just look at the way they've interacted with DF and each other all game.
The object of the game for mafia is to not "seem scummy." She doesn't have anything that "seems scummy" because she doesn't have anything.
You are so fucking bad.

You are so fucking wrong.

#778

MovingPictures07 wrote:I gave a full ISO of Sorsha on the other page. I analyzed her voting history. There's enough there to at least try to analyze here, and I don't think she's bad. But if she is bad, we can figure it out after we lynch someone else who's been more involved. Fuck this voting inactives shit. That's a cop-out right now, Epi, and it's so indicative of your entire attitude all game: You've gone after everyone when it was convenient to do so. You're not going after anyone with an attempt to sort them.

You're bad. Let's lynch Epi NOW.

Took all of two minutes, didn't it?

#779

Epignosis wrote:
speedchuck wrote:
Epignosis wrote:In the meantime, speedchuck- why are you voting me when your belief is that Sorsha is bad too and I'm throwing her under the bus?
If I vote sorsha, and she does happen to be your scummate:
Sorsha dies.
MP dies.

You easily glide to a speedchuck lynch without MP here.
Town loses.

It's also quite possible, as per your defense and MP's scumreads, that I'm wrong about Dom, that he is your teammate, and you are defending him.
Basically, I consider the Epi/Sorsha and Epi/Dom worlds to be more likely than the Sorsha/Dom. I think. I'm still prone to switching.
Again, I like you because you are talking.

Let's not vote each other. I'm not bad. I think you are, but I'm willing to lynch someone else before you.

If you aren't bad, then it would make sense to consider someone other than me.

This is not town-motivated thinking at all.

#780

Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I gave a full ISO of Sorsha on the other page. I analyzed her voting history. There's enough there to at least try to analyze here, and I don't think she's bad. But if she is bad, we can figure it out after we lynch someone else who's been more involved. Fuck this voting inactives shit. That's a cop-out right now, Epi, and it's so indicative of your entire attitude all game: You've gone after everyone when it was convenient to do so. You're not going after anyone with an attempt to sort them.

You're bad. Let's lynch Epi NOW.
Took all of two minutes, didn't it?

It doesn't matter how long it took me.

If you wanted to crusade against inactives, you should have done it before a critical LYLO stage in the game.

#781

Explain to me, Epi, how it makes sense to go with a shot in the dark with Sorsha then (since you seem to think that's what she is) OVER the person you just said above "I think you're bad, but you're talking, so whatever".

Bullshit.

#782

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I gave a full ISO of Sorsha on the other page. I analyzed her voting history. There's enough there to at least try to analyze here, and I don't think she's bad. But if she is bad, we can figure it out after we lynch someone else who's been more involved. Fuck this voting inactives shit. That's a cop-out right now, Epi, and it's so indicative of your entire attitude all game: You've gone after everyone when it was convenient to do so. You're not going after anyone with an attempt to sort them.

You're bad. Let's lynch Epi NOW.
Took all of two minutes, didn't it?
It doesn't matter how long it took me.

If you wanted to crusade against inactives, you should have done it before a critical LYLO stage in the game.

It's not a crusade against inactives. There's one inactive. If you vote me out, and Sorsha is bad, you have handed the win to somebody who didn't even friggin play. That's going to be on you.

You going to eat a hat if you're wrong again?

#783

MovingPictures07 wrote:Explain to me, Epi, how it makes sense to go with a shot in the dark with Sorsha then (since you seem to think that's what she is) OVER the person you just said above "I think you're bad, but you're talking, so whatever".

Bullshit.

See above.

#784

Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I gave a full ISO of Sorsha on the other page. I analyzed her voting history. There's enough there to at least try to analyze here, and I don't think she's bad. But if she is bad, we can figure it out after we lynch someone else who's been more involved. Fuck this voting inactives shit. That's a cop-out right now, Epi, and it's so indicative of your entire attitude all game: You've gone after everyone when it was convenient to do so. You're not going after anyone with an attempt to sort them.

You're bad. Let's lynch Epi NOW.
Took all of two minutes, didn't it?
It doesn't matter how long it took me.

If you wanted to crusade against inactives, you should have done it before a critical LYLO stage in the game.
It's not a crusade against inactives. There's one inactive. If you vote me out, and Sorsha is bad, you have handed the win to somebody who didn't even friggin play. That's going to be on you.

You going to eat a hat if you're wrong again?

It's not on me, there you go with the emotional manipulation again. It's on you for playing like ass all game. At least I'm trying.

#785

Seriously Epi, stop preemptively blaming me. You're being a real something right now and it's pissing me off.

#786

This is just like what you did earlier when you argued with G-Man, who was confirmed fucking town I might add, for seemingly no reason to sort anyone out. You keep pushing back against me using emotional manipulative statements saying "you're going to lose it all for town hurrr de durrr". That's scummy ass behavior.

#787

MovingPictures07 wrote:Seriously Epi, stop preemptively blaming me. You're being a real something right now and it's pissing me off.

Then lay off me and lynch somebody who is bad. Don't call my game "ass" when you are sucking ass right now yourself coming for me.

#788

I cannot fathom any member of the town just going "ehhh whatever, I don't care, I just don't want to lose to the inactive scum" at this point in the game. Not even Epi.

#789

MovingPictures07 wrote:This is just like what you did earlier when you argued with G-Man, who was confirmed fucking town I might add, for seemingly no reason to sort anyone out. You keep pushing back against me using emotional manipulative statements saying "you're going to lose it all for town hurrr de durrr". That's scummy ass behavior.

I don't care what behavior it is. You come in here all high and mighty and want to lynch me over someone with 19 posts?

Fuck out of here.

#790

MovingPictures07 wrote:I cannot fathom any member of the town just going "ehhh whatever, I don't care, I just don't want to lose to the inactive scum" at this point in the game. Not even Epi.

Fathom it, bitches.

#791

Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Seriously Epi, stop preemptively blaming me. You're being a real something right now and it's pissing me off.
Then lay off me and lynch somebody who is bad. Don't call my game "ass" when you are sucking ass right now yourself coming for me.

THEN STOP BLAMING ME FOR EVERYTHING. I've come in here and was nice enough to replace. I performed all of that work trying to sort everyone out. You're not even doing anything. Your game is ass and has been all game. Deal with it.

#792

Can dead people eat popcorn?

#793

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Seriously Epi, stop preemptively blaming me. You're being a real something right now and it's pissing me off.
Then lay off me and lynch somebody who is bad. Don't call my game "ass" when you are sucking ass right now yourself coming for me.
THEN STOP BLAMING ME FOR EVERYTHING. I've come in here and was nice enough to replace. I performed all of that work trying to sort everyone out. You're not even doing anything. Your game is ass and has been all game. Deal with it.

I will blame you if you lead a lynch on me. That's not for EVERYTHING OMG!!!!!!!!1!!!!!

Just for blowing my perfect streak in LOST Again games.

I don't care that you were nice enough to replace.

I'm not even doing anything.

#794

Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:This is just like what you did earlier when you argued with G-Man, who was confirmed fucking town I might add, for seemingly no reason to sort anyone out. You keep pushing back against me using emotional manipulative statements saying "you're going to lose it all for town hurrr de durrr". That's scummy ass behavior.
I don't care what behavior it is. You come in here all high and mighty and want to lynch me over someone with 19 posts?

Fuck out of here.

Yes, I do, because I've pointed out PLENTY of interpretations of your posts and behavior that make you seem real damn bad. Sorsha doesn't have that. She's a player just like everyone else; if she has just 19 posts, then she has just 19 posts. They have content in them too to be analyzed.

You just can't stand the fact that I find you more suspicious than someone who didn't play the game. Get over it. You're suspicious.

#795

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:This is just like what you did earlier when you argued with G-Man, who was confirmed fucking town I might add, for seemingly no reason to sort anyone out. You keep pushing back against me using emotional manipulative statements saying "you're going to lose it all for town hurrr de durrr". That's scummy ass behavior.
I don't care what behavior it is. You come in here all high and mighty and want to lynch me over someone with 19 posts?

Fuck out of here.
Yes, I do, because I've pointed out PLENTY of interpretations of your posts and behavior that make you seem real damn bad. Sorsha doesn't have that. She's a player just like everyone else; if she has just 19 posts, then she has just 19 posts. They have content in them too to be analyzed.

You just can't stand the fact that I find you more suspicious than someone who didn't play the game. Get over it. You're suspicious.

Sorsha doesn't have that because she doesn't have anything.

I don't care if I'm suspicious. I'm not bad.

#796

If you're really not bad, then why don't you give a fuck to lynch the one person you said you think is bad, i.e., speedchuck?

#797

I'm done engaging with you. You've made up your mind. You're wrong. If you are a civilian, you will lose (again) in Lost (again).

#798

In no universe does it make sense to lynch the unknown entity over someone you actively think is bad at this stage in the game.

#799

Epignosis wrote:I'm done engaging with you. You've made up your mind. You're wrong. If you are a civilian, you will lose (again) in Lost (again).

I haven't made up my mind; I'm still considering everyone. You just look the worst, and I have to decide whether that's because you're actually bad or not, and so I'm trying to do that.

#800

speedchuck wrote:MP, you've got a rather strong suspicion of Epi going on. Is any of that due to metaread? If so, could you explain?
In more certain terms, is avoiding the definitely-scum-DF lynch and trying to find a different scummate instead of DF at friggin MYLO something Epi would be prone to do?

Sorry, I forgot to answer this. I wouldn't say any of it is due to a metaread; Epi is one of the hardest players to metaread. I'm just going based off of what I perceive Epi's actions to be in this game.

And anything is what Epi could be prone to do; he'll do anything. So I prefer not to read into that chunk of WIFOM and instead take it at face value.

Who killed poor Charlie?