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[speedchuck]

That sucks on multiple levels. I didn't miss something did I? Tony was definitely leading on the poll?

According to the poll post, yeah

Eloh had like what, one or two votes?

[Golden]

I don't even really understand how elo took votes. I've never seen a game where she looked more town.

[nijuukyugou]

Interns, today no intern may place a 4th vote on any player. Any votes placed 4th will not count.

I took this to mean that only the person who was the fourth to vote for a person had their vote invalidated, and that people who voted after them would have legit votes.

@Niju, was I wrong?

[speedchuck]

Sprityo and INH voted for Eloh, yep. Not near enough.

[Golden]

I think Tony's team has a lynch switch. The other possibility is only 3 votes counted for tony and one of elohs was Marcus.

[insertnamehere]

That sucks on multiple levels. I didn't miss something did I? Tony was definitely leading on the poll?

Yep. Tony had 6 votes, and Elo had 2.

That's why we need confirmation whether Tony had 3 or 5 votes actually count against him.

POSSIBLE VOTE MANIP SCENARIOS:

Tony = Dana and survived his first kill attempt.
Me or Sprit is Marcus.

I sure as shit am not Marcus.

[nijuukyugou]

Ladies and gentlemen, in the wake of this tragedy, we take you now to the weather:

[insertnamehere]

Interns, today no intern may place a 4th vote on any player. Any votes placed 4th will not count.

I took this to mean that only the person who was the fourth to vote for a person had their vote invalidated, and that people who voted after them would have legit votes.

@Niju, was I wrong?

Really lady? Fuckfuckfuck.

There's no lynch stop except for Dana. Cecil's role couldn't have targeted anyone, therefore Khoshekh couldn't be involved. So, only half of the votes counted against Tony actually counted. And Sprityo is Marcus. That's the only feasible scenario, looking at the roles.

Possibly secrets, or a fake death-claim or something like that.

Fuck.

[Epignosis]

Neverwhere is Pamela. Nobody has been off the poll.

Pamela Winchell
The former mayor of Night Vale and current Director of Emergency Press Conferences. Pamela may hold a press conference to remove someone from the lynch poll on three occasions.

Tony could be:

Tamika Flynn
The 13-year-old renowned destroyer of librarians and commander of an army of child soldiers, Tamika has amazing strength of will under duress. Tamika blocks a player on even nights. *Secrets*

Secrets there.

Kevin
Kevin is the host of Desert Bluffs Community Radio. He uses his dark, soulless eyes to silence a player each night. *Secrets*

Secrets there.

Hiram McDaniels
Literally a five-headed dragon; who cares? *Secrets*

Secrets there.

The Man in the Tan Jacket
Countless residents have seen him, but no one can seem to remember exactly what he looks like - just that he has a tan jacket and a deerskin suitcase, and he has been spotted all over town. *Secrets*

Secrets there.

That's three of four secrets that don't belong to civilians.

[speedchuck]

Neverwhere is Pamela.

[Epignosis]

Neverwhere is Pamela.

I have never seen anybody off the poll. Neverwhere is never there.

[Epignosis]

I feel like I'm piecing this all together. Can anyone else speak? Tony? What say you?

[speedchuck]

I'm here in between matches of Overwatch.

I think secrets are more likely than Sprit being Marcus.

[Epignosis]

I want to hear from Tony about what happened.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I want to hear from Tony about what happened.

I can't tell you for reasons. I'm not a bad guy. I didn't know if that would even happen that way. I am kind of to blame for Elo's death, but I believed she was anti town more than INH and didn't want to tip it.

[sprityo]

I can assure you I'm not Marcus INH, there's gotta be a logical explanation for this

[Jackofhearts2005]

@jack what do you see as epis alignment for each potential tony alignment?

If Tony is town, there's a much higher chance of an Epi being w/w with LC.

If Tony is mafia w/LC, I don't think Epi is likely in the same mafia.


I've been feeling less good about Eloh since her vote yesterday but I still think there's a scum between Tony and Epi that needs to be found.

(I realize this isn't alignment indicative but everytime Eloh is like "I was cooking/doing something for the kids," it pings me. Like don't you know you are supposed to play mafia in the middle or chores so they take twice as long but you get to play mafia?)


Linki: Well, that was a very unexpected lynch.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don't even really understand how elo took votes. I've never seen a game where she looked more town.

She pointedly did not vote for LC.

Don't give me credit for this idea but she was my top pick for LC/Tony teammate and second pick for LC/Epi teammate after Dom. Along with Slam, who I don't think is a SMaf, those were all the players who voted late and not for LC.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Oh wait, Eloh was good. Fuck.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Oh wait, Eloh was good. Fuck.

My reaction, for perhaps a different reason.


BTW, were we all subtly scum reading Eloh yesterday and not doing anything about it?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Neverwhere is Pamela. Nobody has been off the poll.

Pamela Winchell
The former mayor of Night Vale and current Director of Emergency Press Conferences. Pamela may hold a press conference to remove someone from the lynch poll on three occasions.

Tony could be:

Tamika Flynn
The 13-year-old renowned destroyer of librarians and commander of an army of child soldiers, Tamika has amazing strength of will under duress. Tamika blocks a player on even nights. *Secrets*

Secrets there.

Kevin
Kevin is the host of Desert Bluffs Community Radio. He uses his dark, soulless eyes to silence a player each night. *Secrets*

Secrets there.

Hiram McDaniels
Literally a five-headed dragon; who cares? *Secrets*

Secrets there.

The Man in the Tan Jacket
Countless residents have seen him, but no one can seem to remember exactly what he looks like - just that he has a tan jacket and a deerskin suitcase, and he has been spotted all over town. *Secrets*

Secrets there.

That's three of four secrets that don't belong to civilians.

Idk about Never but the rest of this looks right to me.

More sure Tony is bad than ever. Either he's likely bad secret powers or Sprityo or INH is Marcus and saved him...because he is bad.

The later two scenarios are pretty blatant. Probably not true.

[timmer]

Ugh, I'm so sorry. I've requested to nijuu to find a replacement for me. I'm a) working to get my house ready to sell b) getting divorced and c) working more than full-time hours. It's just not the right time to be here.

[Golden]

Oh wait, Eloh was good. Fuck.

My reaction, for perhaps a different reason.


BTW, were we all subtly scum reading Eloh yesterday and not doing anything about it?

No. Quite the opposite. I can't read Eloh great, but yesterday she went from 'maybe town' to 'probably town' for me, and I don't actually understand how she took votes, like I just don't know where they came from.

[Golden]

There's also the possibility Eloh targeted the cat role.

[Jackofhearts2005]

There's also the possibility Eloh targeted the cat role.

Her role doesn't target.

[TonyStarkPrime]

There's also the possibility Eloh targeted the cat role.

Her character can't target.
I know why she died, I just can't really explain. It had nothing to do with Marcus or magic spikey cats.

[Golden]

There's also the possibility Eloh targeted the cat role.

Her role doesn't target.

Good point.

[Ricochet]

Me or Sprit is Marcus.

I sure as shit am not Marcus.

I can assure you I'm not Marcus INH, there's gotta be a logical explanation for this

I want to hear from Tony about what happened.

I can't tell you for reasons. I'm not a bad guy. I didn't know if that would even happen that way. I am kind of to blame for Elo's death, but I believed she was anti town more than INH and didn't want to tip it.

[Ricochet]

TonyStarkPrime

0 votes

Dom

Dr Wilgy

timmer

[Ricochet]

TonyStarkPrime

Dana Cardinal

Intern Elohcin has been lynched.

TonyStarkPrime

Tamika Flynn

I know why she died, I just can't really explain. It had nothing to do with Marcus or magic spikey cats.

TonyStarkPrime

Kevin

Hiram McDaniels

The Man in the Tan Jacket

I want to hear from Tony about what happened.

I can't tell you for reasons.

[Neverwhere]

Hey guys, I also have had to request a replacement for this game. Bummed because it's really fucking cool. Dealing with a depressed partner and a special needs kiddo and by the time i get to reading the game i fall asleep at my computer. Not fair to all of your or our wonderful host and creator of the game. Props to her!

[Elohcin]

why I oughta

neverwhere... I totally get it! We have a son with special needs. Schooling and raising him is the most emotionally exhausting thing I do. Keep it up! You've got this. And if you ever want to talk, I'm only a PM away.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I think I learned how to read Eloh some this game. Doesn't mean I was right about here in the end this time but I think I can do better next time.


indeed.

[Dom]

I forgot to vote before work and then got durnk with friends my b would have voted for timmer

Why did everyone ignore me all day?

[sprityo]

More pressing issues?

Maybe no one took you seriously?

[Boomslang]

Yep, Tony does not come out looking good from this. RIP Elo. I will honor your memory by studying Double Spanish.

[Dom]

More pressing issues?

Maybe no one took you seriously?

Then the baddies have won.

[speedchuck]

More pressing issues?

Maybe no one took you seriously?

Then the baddies have won.

You were (correct me if I'm wrong) posting against Timmer, Eloh, TSP, Golden, and possibly Wilgy and Epi.

One of those was wrong, one looks to be right. I don't understand the case on Timmer (behind and requesting replacement isn't necessarily bad unless it's a thing for scum!timmer). I disagree with lynching Golden. Please, do present your case on the two others.

[Dom]

Timmer
Given his requesting replacement, I do hold judgment now. However, when I posted he had not done that. That's quite misleading that you'd conflate the two.
We've discussed this in the thread, but Timmer has a history of being "behind" when he is bad. Always catching up, never really contributing. Timmer claimed to have caught up, but didn't know that we had already looked into the origins of the curses or that I had discussed my parody of the president in a previous game. This indicates to me that he never really caught up, but rather, got a recap from someone else.

TSP
He claimed to know I wasn't on a certain baddie team, only to back off of it in the same sentence. He's on that team.

Golden
I still don't trust him, but will put him aside for now.

Wilgy
Wilgy is not contributing at all. That's unusual. I'd like him to.

Epi
Epi and Eloh came at me with suspicion because of a host mistake. Neither one really bucked the claim, just dropped it. They never said they were *wrong*. They were quick to jump to that conclusion. That doesn't wit well with me.
I was wrong about Eloh, but that doesn't mean it's nothing for Epi.

Sprityo
Sprityo admits he didn't take my posts seriously during the last day phase. That was the intent of the baddies who cursed me OR he just doesn't take me seriously and is going to lose because of that.

[Dom]

My communication was relatively unrestricted and I'm very annoyed people made no attempt at discourse with me and then will claim I don't go after anyone but Golden.

[TonyStarkPrime]

TSP
He claimed to know I wasn't on a certain baddie team, only to back off of it in the same sentence. He's on that team.

Citation needed.

[speedchuck]

My communication was relatively unrestricted and I'm very annoyed people made no attempt at discourse with me and then will claim I don't go after anyone but Golden.

I didn't do that today, and I understand that your stance on timmer could change.

I'm not challenging you right now, just trying to get some of that discourse you asked for going.

[sprityo]

Timmer
Given his requesting replacement, I do hold judgment now. However, when I posted he had not done that. That's quite misleading that you'd conflate the two.
We've discussed this in the thread, but Timmer has a history of being "behind" when he is bad. Always catching up, never really contributing. Timmer claimed to have caught up, but didn't know that we had already looked into the origins of the curses or that I had discussed my parody of the president in a previous game. This indicates to me that he never really caught up, but rather, got a recap from someone else.

TSP
He claimed to know I wasn't on a certain baddie team, only to back off of it in the same sentence. He's on that team.

Golden
I still don't trust him, but will put him aside for now.

Wilgy
Wilgy is not contributing at all. That's unusual. I'd like him to.

Epi
Epi and Eloh came at me with suspicion because of a host mistake. Neither one really bucked the claim, just dropped it. They never said they were *wrong*. They were quick to jump to that conclusion. That doesn't wit well with me.
I was wrong about Eloh, but that doesn't mean it's nothing for Epi.

Sprityo
Sprityo admits he didn't take my posts seriously during the last day phase. That was the intent of the baddies who cursed me OR he just doesn't take me seriously and is going to lose because of that.

I didn't not say MYSELF did not taking you seriously, you asked an open question and I said a general answer as a suggestion, do not take things out of context

[Dom]

I didn't not say MYSELF did not taking you seriously, you asked an open question and I said a general answer as a suggestion, do not take things out of context

You didn't engage with me.
One only wonders...

[Dom]

HAHAA Dom was so funny as Trump!
Damn right.

But that was the point and you all fell for it.

[Dom]

Tony, walk me through your last second vote on INH, again. Convince me that wasn't an attempt to save LC.

I've already explained the vote, but I'll walk you through it again from a different side. If you still want me to explain the actual vote again I will.

Continuing your logic, let's assume I'm SMaf with Dom. Dom voted after me, so if he had voted for INH than INH would have five votes on him and would almost certainly be lynched. But this didn't happen. So if the plan was instead bus LC, I could had voted for LC in a vote that looks good since I've been attacking LC since day 1.

I don't see a reality where our votes pan out that way and we are w/w.

So Dom isn't SMaf, at least with me. That leaves you with one theory: SMaf was not trying to save LC. Since I'd have no reason besides being SMaf to try to save LC and if I was SMaf I was not trying to save LC, I was not trying to save LC. QED

You don't actually show I'm not SMaf here. You defend that you are not.

[Dom]

My communication was relatively unrestricted and I'm very annoyed people made no attempt at discourse with me and then will claim I don't go after anyone but Golden.

I didn't do that today, and I understand that your stance on timmer could change.

I'm not challenging you right now, just trying to get some of that discourse you asked for going.

I understand. Not aimed at you-- aimed at everyone.

[Jackofhearts2005]

My communication was relatively unrestricted and I'm very annoyed people made no attempt at discourse with me and then will claim I don't go after anyone but Golden.

I'm going to rescind my commentary about that curse being weak.

Making you emulate a blowhard and compulsive liar makes it reeeeeal easy to dismiss anything you say as lies or exaggeration. Devious.

[Dom]

Can't tell if genuine...

[Jackofhearts2005]

Can't tell if genuine...