Mountain Mafia [END]

[Epignosis]

Feels way different from ME Epi, which is the last bad Epi I can remember. So that makes him look better.

I was not bad in that game. I was an independent who ultimately chose to side with a bad team.

I'm going to rip your arms off and beat Long Con to death with them because of this failure to understand simple independent mechanics.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I think you're basically describing town Eloh behavior and calling it a case for her badness. Epi calls you out

Can you recall an example of a town Elohcin that fits the general description I provided in my post?

Yeah. Now you got me questioning my memory.

More tomorrow reading.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Reminder to self to make a thread in the lounge explaining why GTH reads have value.

[DrWilgy]

I'm going to be a contrarian and vote for the other no-show.

Hi everyone. I see there's about 15 new pages. What's new. Someone catch me up.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]DrWilgy[/mention], why the vote for Lurker B when Lurker A is already solidly in the lead?

linki: k

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Wilgy, what is your present read on Jack?

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy, why the vote for Lurker B when Lurker A is already solidly in the lead?

linki: k

What does it matter? What line of thinking would an answer lead you down?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

DrWilgy, why the vote for Lurker B when Lurker A is already solidly in the lead?

linki: k

What does it matter? What line of thinking would an answer lead you down?

Your usage of your voting power matters for the same reasons it would in any day phase of any game. Answer my other question about Jack.

[Sloonei]

Oh!

Re: Jimmy attacking Sig

Not fair to compare early pirates Sig to late pirates Sig and then contrast early pirates Sig with Sig here cause he got real busy irl. I want to hear more from Sig and won't give him a pass all game but still. Not a fair comparison imo.

Jay, thoughts on this post?

[DrWilgy]

Wilgy, what is your present read on Jack?

He's probably bad, but like I said, I wanted to take a step back and reassess. I have been unable to do so. It's a bit disheartening.

[DrWilgy]

DrWilgy, why the vote for Lurker B when Lurker A is already solidly in the lead?

linki: k

What does it matter? What line of thinking would an answer lead you down?

Your usage of your voting power matters for the same reasons it would in any day phase of any game. Answer my other question about Jack.

What? How?

Patience is a virtue JJJ.

[Epignosis]

Another issue that bothers me about 3J is that he hasn't placed his vote on anybody.

[Sloonei]

Another issue that bothers me about 3J is that he hasn't placed his vote on anybody.

This is indeed troubling.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Oh!

Re: Jimmy attacking Sig

Not fair to compare early pirates Sig to late pirates Sig and then contrast early pirates Sig with Sig here cause he got real busy irl. I want to hear more from Sig and won't give him a pass all game but still. Not a fair comparison imo.

Jay, thoughts on this post?

Jack's point is fair enough. It is true that sig was busy. My willingness to give people a break for that is limited, because I have seen too many bad guys use that as an excuse to hide from the game thread (including myself in the past). That doesn't have to mean sig was doing that.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Wilgy, what is your present read on Jack?

He's probably bad, but like I said, I wanted to take a step back and reassess. I have been unable to do so. It's a bit disheartening.

What is the source of your hesitation?

[Sloonei]

Oh!

Re: Jimmy attacking Sig

Not fair to compare early pirates Sig to late pirates Sig and then contrast early pirates Sig with Sig here cause he got real busy irl. I want to hear more from Sig and won't give him a pass all game but still. Not a fair comparison imo.

Jay, thoughts on this post?

Jack's point is fair enough. It is true that sig was busy. My willingness to give people a break for that is limited, because I have seen too many bad guys use that as an excuse to hide from the game thread (including myself in the past). That doesn't have to mean sig was doing that.

Pretend you can't vote for a low-poster today. who gets your vote?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Another issue that bothers me about 3J is that he hasn't placed his vote on anybody.

This is indeed troubling.

Let's lynch Elohcin.

[Sloonei]

Another issue that bothers me about 3J is that he hasn't placed his vote on anybody.

This is indeed troubling.

Let's lynch Elohcin.

why?

[nutella]

Hey sorry I haven't been around for most of the discussion. Been periodically catching up while doing other stuff. I'm cool with the Dom lynch but since there's already a comfortable lead there I'm tempted to put a symbolic vote somewhere, probably Jay at this point tbh.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

The primary defense I have seen fielded for Elohcin is "that's just how she is". I don't agree with that. I don't make these observations about her in every game. Hell, in many of her recent games she just hasn't made enough posts to facilitate (hi Quin) these observations.

[DrWilgy]

Wilgy, what is your present read on Jack?

He's probably bad, but like I said, I wanted to take a step back and reassess. I have been unable to do so. It's a bit disheartening.

What is the source of your hesitation?

I've actually only had time to digest about 10% of this game. Also, when trying to reassess my read I practise reading someone as if they were both civ or mafia. I cant read Jack's posts as civ, meaning bias has formed. I want to be right that he's scum while not having enough info to weigh others.


JJJ back to you.

DrWilgy, why the vote for Lurker B when Lurker A is already solidly in the lead?

linki: k

What does it matter? What line of thinking would an answer lead you down?

Your usage of your voting power matters for the same reasons it would in any day phase of any game. Answer my other question about Jack.

In the quote why did you ignore "what line of thinking would an answer lead you down?" And shift the subject?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

why?

Click

[DrWilgy]

Man, Wilgy is sexy...

You too bud.

Can I have a quick sum up of your thoughts about this game? Just what's on top of your head?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hey sorry I haven't been around for most of the discussion. Been periodically catching up while doing other stuff. I'm cool with the Dom lynch but since there's already a comfortable lead there I'm tempted to put a symbolic vote somewhere, probably Jay at this point tbh.

I have attracted quite a lot of vague suspicion over the last few pages. I know why Epignosis is concerned. Those others who've expressed recent discontent -- why?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

In the quote why did you ignore "what line of thinking would an answer lead you down?" And shift the subject?

I don't know what that question means. What does that question mean?

[DrWilgy]

I have attracted quite a lot of vague suspicion over the last few pages. I know why Epignosis is concerned. Those others who've expressed recent discontent -- why?

You ignored a pretty important question of mine without rhyme or reason.

[Epignosis]

The primary defense I have seen fielded for Elohcin is "that's just how she is". I don't agree with that. I don't make these observations about her in every game. Hell, in many of her recent games she just hasn't made enough posts to facilitate (hi Quin) these observations.

What does a civilian Elohcin look like?

[DrWilgy]

In the quote why did you ignore "what line of thinking would an answer lead you down?" And shift the subject?

I don't know what that question means. What does that question mean?

If I answered X, what would you think? If I answered Y, what would you think?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

The primary defense I have seen fielded for Elohcin is "that's just how she is". I don't agree with that. I don't make these observations about her in every game. Hell, in many of her recent games she just hasn't made enough posts to facilitate (hi Quin) these observations.

What does a civilian Elohcin look like?

The first thing that comes to mind is a willingness to throw a vote into a consensus without inserting analytic or intuitive effort into that. She often doesn't even play catch-up, but rather gives the thread the finger (especially when it's a highly-active game), and I think I've seen that from her more than once as a civilian.

This is about a read at face value of her sincerity. Any player, regardless of their "style" or "tendencies" is capable of seeming insincere in a game. I don't always have this perspective of Elohcin.

[Sloonei]

Man, Wilgy is sexy...

You too bud.

Can I have a quick sum up of your thoughts about this game? Just what's on top of your head?

I have nothing strong at the moment. When Day 2 ended I was gung-ho about cbob when Day 2 ended but since then I've fallen a bit behind and am not in a position of much confidence for this EoD. I have more town reads than scum reads and am currently doubting every suspicion that I've had.

With regards to lynching Dom, I don't hate the lynch itself but I would prefer a lynch with more substance behind it for multiple reasons.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

In the quote why did you ignore "what line of thinking would an answer lead you down?" And shift the subject?

I don't know what that question means. What does that question mean?

If I answered X, what would you think? If I answered Y, what would you think?

I don't typically make that decision before I receive an answer, unless there's some glaring problem that I am deconstructing. I don't know what I'd think. I asked you a question about a curious voting move, and there could be any number of possible ways you'd respond to that.

[Quin]

why aren't we all lynching Lasagne? For a low poster, she actually looks bad.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

why aren't we all lynching Lasagne? For a low poster, she actually looks bad.

What's the worst thing you could say about Lasagne?

[Quin]

why aren't we all lynching Lasagne? For a low poster, she actually looks bad.

What's the worst thing you could say about Lasagne?

She has 24 posts, at least 20 of those say nothing but bolster her presence in the thread.

[Sloonei]

Absolutely nobody has resisted a Dom lynch at any point in this game, that I can recall.

[Sloonei]

Hey sorry I haven't been around for most of the discussion. Been periodically catching up while doing other stuff. I'm cool with the Dom lynch but since there's already a comfortable lead there I'm tempted to put a symbolic vote somewhere, probably Jay at this point tbh.

I have attracted quite a lot of vague suspicion over the last few pages. I know why Epignosis is concerned. Those others who've expressed recent discontent -- why?

I don't believe you.

[Kylemii]

why aren't we all lynching Lasagne? For a low poster, she actually looks bad.

I'd be okay with a Mesk lynch. Momentum may be difficult at this late point however.

[Quin]

Absolutely nobody has resisted a Dom lynch at any point in this game, that I can recall.

[DrWilgy]

why aren't we all lynching Lasagne? For a low poster, she actually looks bad.

What's the worst thing you could say about Lasagne?

She has 24 posts, at least 20 of those say nothing but bolster her presence in the thread.

I can get behind this.

[Sloonei]

Absolutely nobody has resisted a Dom lynch at any point in this game, that I can recall.

you don't count

[JaggedJimmyJay]

why aren't we all lynching Lasagne? For a low poster, she actually looks bad.

What's the worst thing you could say about Lasagne?

She has 24 posts, at least 20 of those say nothing but bolster her presence in the thread.

I saw one decent thing when I reviewed her. It's not the most substantive thing. I would agree that her post count is inflated with respect to the content within it. I could do that lynch.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hey sorry I haven't been around for most of the discussion. Been periodically catching up while doing other stuff. I'm cool with the Dom lynch but since there's already a comfortable lead there I'm tempted to put a symbolic vote somewhere, probably Jay at this point tbh.

I have attracted quite a lot of vague suspicion over the last few pages. I know why Epignosis is concerned. Those others who've expressed recent discontent -- why?

I don't believe you.

About what?

[Epignosis]

The primary defense I have seen fielded for Elohcin is "that's just how she is". I don't agree with that. I don't make these observations about her in every game. Hell, in many of her recent games she just hasn't made enough posts to facilitate (hi Quin) these observations.

What does a civilian Elohcin look like?

The first thing that comes to mind is a willingness to throw a vote into a consensus without inserting analytic or intuitive effort into that. She often doesn't even play catch-up, but rather gives the thread the finger (especially when it's a highly-active game), and I think I've seen that from her more than once as a civilian.

This is about a read at face value of her sincerity. Any player, regardless of their "style" or "tendencies" is capable of seeming insincere in a game. I don't always have this perspective of Elohcin.

This strikes me as you are bad and circumstance is robbing you of people to accuse.

[Sloonei]

Hey sorry I haven't been around for most of the discussion. Been periodically catching up while doing other stuff. I'm cool with the Dom lynch but since there's already a comfortable lead there I'm tempted to put a symbolic vote somewhere, probably Jay at this point tbh.

I have attracted quite a lot of vague suspicion over the last few pages. I know why Epignosis is concerned. Those others who've expressed recent discontent -- why?

I don't believe you.

About what?

Mountain Mafia [DAY 3]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Mesk514

[JaggedJimmyJay]

This strikes me as you are bad and circumstance is robbing you of people to accuse.

What does a civilian Elohcin look like?

[Epignosis]

Absolutely nobody has resisted a Dom lynch at any point in this game, that I can recall.

Why should anyone?

[DrWilgy]

Man, Wilgy is sexy...

You too bud.

Can I have a quick sum up of your thoughts about this game? Just what's on top of your head?

I have nothing strong at the moment. When Day 2 ended I was gung-ho about cbob when Day 2 ended but since then I've fallen a bit behind and am not in a position of much confidence for this EoD. I have more town reads than scum reads and am currently doubting every suspicion that I've had.

Thank you sloonbeard, that'll do.

[mention]colonialbob[/mention] What do you think of sloon's suspicion on you? Your next, what are your current thoughts? Just the top of your head?

[Quin]

Absolutely nobody has resisted a Dom lynch at any point in this game, that I can recall.

you don't count

ok listen here bitch

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Mountain Mafia [DAY 3]

k well there's shit all I can do about that beyond continuing to play the game.