Mortal Kombat Mafia [ENDGAME]

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Who Fujined up?

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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 0]

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novaselinenever wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:14 pm
Yes, you and Made. For different reasons though. I still have to reread the thread to get a more clear image.
In what ways do we stand out?

Don't let my constant questions interfere with your efforts to read the thread. Do what you gotta do and get back to me when you're comfortable. :beer:
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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 0]

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novaselinenever wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:12 pm That said

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Gimmie a read on somebody.
Everyone is neutral so far to me. Trying to remember the usernames so I can follow people more and get reads.
Perhaps try working backwards from some other angles. Why is Player X bad. Why is Player Y good. Rather than feeling it out and hoping for an aha! moment. Change the way you are reading the posts? Would Mac say this to me if he was good, if he was bad? Etc.
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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 0]

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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:09 pm
Dave wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:02 pm although i m new to format and lack knowledge of mortal kombat i voted for outworld too as it makes sense as explained by jay, given current scum reads i dont have one i see dat people sus quin but i have to read more from him to give a verdict
So Dave's only made this one post. I've got zero meta on this guy as I've never played with him and I do have a history of getting pinged by people incorrectly and given it's just one post it's probably a relatively meaningless ping. I simply don't like that he justified his vote for Outworld as simply as deferring to Jay's explanation, which was actually a relatively decent justification and that is not what I am calling into question, I just doubt the sincerity of Dave's belief in Jimmy being an adequate reason to vote.

Also it has a bit of a tone of a forced introductory post. Those more familiar with this Dave can comment on what his town intro posts are generally like or Dave is like in general.
I'm familiar with him. Don't really know where you're going with this. I don't see why would he lie about his reason to vote. He's new to this format and don't really know what's going on. He could just vote at random without justifying it and I'm sure most people wouldn't have a problem with it.

I do agree though that the post felt like a forced introduction. And he didn't stick around afterwards.
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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 0]

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MacDougall is a civilian because he just explained the orange names in my rainbow list for me, with pretty much the same rationale, without me having to explain them myself.
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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 0]

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Sloonei wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:15 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:14 pm
Yes, you and Made. For different reasons though. I still have to reread the thread to get a more clear image.
In what ways do we stand out?

Don't let my constant questions interfere with your efforts to read the thread. Do what you gotta do and get back to me when you're comfortable. :beer:
Him jumping on you and suspecting of being an Indie stood out for me. He didn't really give any reason, maybe he was half-serious and it was just a hunch. But he started avoiding your questions.

You, because of your Town read on him. I don't see where that came from. And it happened directly after him suspecting you and avoiding your questions.
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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 0]

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novaselinenever wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:18 pm I'm familiar with him. Don't really know where you're going with this. I don't see why would he lie about his reason to vote. He's new to this format and don't really know what's going on. He could just vote at random without justifying it and I'm sure most people wouldn't have a problem with it.

I do agree though that the post felt like a forced introduction. And he didn't stick around afterwards.
You've discarded one of Mac's suspicions of Dave and accepted the other. What is your own read on Dave?
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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 0]

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novaselinenever wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:15 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:14 pm
Yes, you and Made. For different reasons though. I still have to reread the thread to get a more clear image.
In what ways do we stand out?

Don't let my constant questions interfere with your efforts to read the thread. Do what you gotta do and get back to me when you're comfortable. :beer:
Him jumping on you and suspecting of being an Indie stood out for me. He didn't really give any reason, maybe he was half-serious and it was just a hunch. But he started avoiding your questions.

You, because of your Town read on him. I don't see where that came from. And it happened directly after him suspecting you and avoiding your questions.
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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 0]

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Sloonei wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:24 pm Jesus Christ guys. 5 pages on day 0. Stooooooop.

I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game. I have a real good feeling about that. He is bad an I'm a doctor!
Also Made has wilgy as his second strongest town read on the strength of this post and nothing else (wilgy's only other contribution at the time of made's rainbow was an OT comment about jack's avatar). I guess I overlooked this post when I was discussing Made's observation about heat on me, but I don't really take this seriously since it doesn't seem like wilgy's expressing an actual suspicion of me, rather he's just shaking his fist at me for having close to 50 posts on Day 0. I'd shake my fist at me too. That's ridiculous.
I don't understand any of Made's reads, I guess, but that doesn't stop me from liking that they exist at this point.
Why did it take you so long to comment on this? Why did you provide a reason other than suspicion when I said I was suspicious of you?
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Bad guys are Hazlenut, Mac, and Sloonster.

Dis is de wae.
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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 0]

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DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:36 pm Bad guys are Hazlenut, Mac, and Sloonster.

Dis is de wae.
Actually, I'm not. But thanks for trying.
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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 0]

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DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:36 pm Bad guys are Hazlenut, Mac, and Sloonster.

Dis is de wae.
Not sure if serious

I want reasons for those first two. Don't care how shallow.
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DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:24 pm Jesus Christ guys. 5 pages on day 0. Stooooooop.

I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game. I have a real good feeling about that. He is bad an I'm a doctor!
Also Made has wilgy as his second strongest town read on the strength of this post and nothing else (wilgy's only other contribution at the time of made's rainbow was an OT comment about jack's avatar). I guess I overlooked this post when I was discussing Made's observation about heat on me, but I don't really take this seriously since it doesn't seem like wilgy's expressing an actual suspicion of me, rather he's just shaking his fist at me for having close to 50 posts on Day 0. I'd shake my fist at me too. That's ridiculous.
I don't understand any of Made's reads, I guess, but that doesn't stop me from liking that they exist at this point.
Why did it take you so long to comment on this? Why did you provide a reason other than suspicion when I said I was suspicious of you?
Wow you're really going to tunnel him straight out the gate aren't you... uninterested in genuinely finding bad guys and instead more interested in just getting Sloonei lynched? The question is whether you were genuinely pinged by him and now just want to feel great about your bad guy hunting skill or whether you are just fake hunting as a scum guy. Could be possible hard distancing as scum teammates... I would totally expect that of you two so that's gotta be on the table.
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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 0]

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DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:24 pm Jesus Christ guys. 5 pages on day 0. Stooooooop.

I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game. I have a real good feeling about that. He is bad an I'm a doctor!
Also Made has wilgy as his second strongest town read on the strength of this post and nothing else (wilgy's only other contribution at the time of made's rainbow was an OT comment about jack's avatar). I guess I overlooked this post when I was discussing Made's observation about heat on me, but I don't really take this seriously since it doesn't seem like wilgy's expressing an actual suspicion of me, rather he's just shaking his fist at me for having close to 50 posts on Day 0. I'd shake my fist at me too. That's ridiculous.
I don't understand any of Made's reads, I guess, but that doesn't stop me from liking that they exist at this point.
Why did it take you so long to comment on this? Why did you provide a reason other than suspicion when I said I was suspicious of you?
I didn't have a reason to respond to it initially because you didn't seem to be expressing any reason to suspect me. It seemed more like a mission statement rather than a declaration of suspicion: "I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game." I only addressed the post in the context of the discussion around Made. I frankly do not care about your stance on me here because it doesn't appear that you have one. You have a hypothesis that I am bad. Get back to me when you find the symptoms of my badness, Doctor.
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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 0]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:32 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:18 pm I'm familiar with him. Don't really know where you're going with this. I don't see why would he lie about his reason to vote. He's new to this format and don't really know what's going on. He could just vote at random without justifying it and I'm sure most people wouldn't have a problem with it.

I do agree though that the post felt like a forced introduction. And he didn't stick around afterwards.
You've discarded one of Mac's suspicions of Dave and accepted the other. What is your own read on Dave?
I discarded the first one because, imo, the justification for his vote or lack of justification doesn't mean anything. He is new and isn't used to this format. I myself voted and I can't justify my choice because I don't know what's going on.

My read on him : I'm suspicious of him. I know him to be much more active. His post felt forced as if he just wanted to seem like he participated.
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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 0]

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Mac, what is your read of quin?
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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 0]

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novaselinenever wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:32 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:18 pm I'm familiar with him. Don't really know where you're going with this. I don't see why would he lie about his reason to vote. He's new to this format and don't really know what's going on. He could just vote at random without justifying it and I'm sure most people wouldn't have a problem with it.

I do agree though that the post felt like a forced introduction. And he didn't stick around afterwards.
You've discarded one of Mac's suspicions of Dave and accepted the other. What is your own read on Dave?
I discarded the first one because, imo, the justification for his vote or lack of justification doesn't mean anything. He is new and isn't used to this format. I myself voted and I can't justify my choice because I don't know what's going on.

My read on him : I'm suspicious of him. I know him to be much more active. His post felt forced as if he just wanted to seem like he participated.
I am pinged the way that you made a passing remark to somewhat discredit me even though you agree that he's sus.
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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 0]

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Made wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:48 pm Mac, what is your read of quin?
His reaction to the initial suspicion of him was fairly ambiguous. His lack of genuine townlike play is alarming. I have him as my biggest scumread.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:21 pm MacDougall is a civilian because he just explained the orange names in my rainbow list for me, with pretty much the same rationale, without me having to explain them myself.
Did I? Where did I do that?
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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:52 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:21 pm MacDougall is a civilian because he just explained the orange names in my rainbow list for me, with pretty much the same rationale, without me having to explain them myself.
Did I? Where did I do that?
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most of the people who have posted so far look civ so far, but then most of them are the people who always look civ to me. Sloonei's alternate interpretation of Quin is interesting though and Quin is someone I'm always waffly on. :ponder:

Made is zany as usual. Not sure what he's on about but I think he's just being Made.

Out of the so-far-civ-reads I think my strongest 3 are Sloonei, Kyle, and Jack. They're safe from my D1 vote at this point unless something changes.

oh and welcome new people! I'm getting tired of reading posts from the same 6-7 people so let's see some thoughts k
Interesting that you hen picked who to make reads on/comment on after starting the post like you were about to skim read everybody.
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Dave wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:02 pm although i m new to format and lack knowledge of mortal kombat i voted for outworld too as it makes sense as explained by jay, given current scum reads i dont have one i see dat people sus quin but i have to read more from him to give a verdict
So Dave's only made this one post. I've got zero meta on this guy as I've never played with him and I do have a history of getting pinged by people incorrectly and given it's just one post it's probably a relatively meaningless ping. I simply don't like that he justified his vote for Outworld as simply as deferring to Jay's explanation, which was actually a relatively decent justification and that is not what I am calling into question, I just doubt the sincerity of Dave's belief in Jimmy being an adequate reason to vote.

Also it has a bit of a tone of a forced introductory post. Those more familiar with this Dave can comment on what his town intro posts are generally like or Dave is like in general.
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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:50 pm
Made wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:48 pm Mac, what is your read of quin?
His reaction to the initial suspicion of him was fairly ambiguous. His lack of genuine townlike play is alarming. I have him as my biggest scumread.
lack of genuine townlike play, huh :ponder:
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Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:50 pm
Made wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:48 pm Mac, what is your read of quin?
His reaction to the initial suspicion of him was fairly ambiguous. His lack of genuine townlike play is alarming. I have him as my biggest scumread.
lack of genuine townlike play, huh :ponder:
I see less overtly civilian inspiration in you than I'd expect from 40+ Day 0 posts.
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Made wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:48 pm Mac, what is your read of quin?
His reaction to the initial suspicion of him was fairly ambiguous. His lack of genuine townlike play is alarming. I have him as my biggest scumread.
lack of genuine townlike play, huh :ponder:
I see less overtly civilian inspiration in you than I'd expect from 40+ Day 0 posts.
I think you expect more from me than I'm equipped to give you. I just talk. That's all I've ever done.
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Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:01 pm
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Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:57 pm
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Made wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:48 pm Mac, what is your read of quin?
His reaction to the initial suspicion of him was fairly ambiguous. His lack of genuine townlike play is alarming. I have him as my biggest scumread.
lack of genuine townlike play, huh :ponder:
I see less overtly civilian inspiration in you than I'd expect from 40+ Day 0 posts.
I think you expect more from me than I'm equipped to give you. I just talk. That's all I've ever done.
what if I said I didn't get the impression you were sincerely trying to read me earlier?
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Omoshiroi desu ne?
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:42 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:36 pm Bad guys are Hazlenut, Mac, and Sloonster.

Dis is de wae.
Actually, I'm not. But thanks for trying.
But you are.
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DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:36 pm Bad guys are Hazlenut, Mac, and Sloonster.

Dis is de wae.
Not sure if serious

I want reasons for those first two. Don't care how shallow.
Care to guess 1st? Why wouldn't I be serious?
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DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:24 pm Jesus Christ guys. 5 pages on day 0. Stooooooop.

I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game. I have a real good feeling about that. He is bad an I'm a doctor!
Also Made has wilgy as his second strongest town read on the strength of this post and nothing else (wilgy's only other contribution at the time of made's rainbow was an OT comment about jack's avatar). I guess I overlooked this post when I was discussing Made's observation about heat on me, but I don't really take this seriously since it doesn't seem like wilgy's expressing an actual suspicion of me, rather he's just shaking his fist at me for having close to 50 posts on Day 0. I'd shake my fist at me too. That's ridiculous.
I don't understand any of Made's reads, I guess, but that doesn't stop me from liking that they exist at this point.
Why did it take you so long to comment on this? Why did you provide a reason other than suspicion when I said I was suspicious of you?
I didn't have a reason to respond to it initially because you didn't seem to be expressing any reason to suspect me. It seemed more like a mission statement rather than a declaration of suspicion: "I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game." I only addressed the post in the context of the discussion around Made. I frankly do not care about your stance on me here because it doesn't appear that you have one. You have a hypothesis that I am bad. Get back to me when you find the symptoms of my badness, Doctor.
Why patronize the idea of me finding symptoms of you being bad if you are good Sloonster? If you are civ the symptoms wouldnt exist. Would you want me to be chasing my tail like a puppy if I was a civilian on your team?
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Sloonei wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:02 pm
Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:01 pm
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Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:57 pm
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His reaction to the initial suspicion of him was fairly ambiguous. His lack of genuine townlike play is alarming. I have him as my biggest scumread.
lack of genuine townlike play, huh :ponder:
I see less overtly civilian inspiration in you than I'd expect from 40+ Day 0 posts.
I think you expect more from me than I'm equipped to give you. I just talk. That's all I've ever done.
what if I said I didn't get the impression you were sincerely trying to read me earlier?
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I'll put my continued concerns about Quin into words:

He has made a lot of posts in quick succession. Typically this is something I would like. It's great to facilitate content and to generate a real life bonafide Mafia game thread. However, in Quin's posts I see a lot of reads thrown into a heap with few or no legible origins -- they seem to merely exist for the sake of existence. This contrasts the facilitation provided by other early contributors (Sloonei, speedchuck, and MacDougall to name a few) which features reads drawn from visible thread content. Their reads might not be well-informed, understandably on Day 0, but I still know where they came from. Quin's reads? I generally don't know. I'm not sure he does either.

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I question the sincerity of this facilitation effort and wonder if it's meant for appearances.
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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:49 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:32 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:18 pm I'm familiar with him. Don't really know where you're going with this. I don't see why would he lie about his reason to vote. He's new to this format and don't really know what's going on. He could just vote at random without justifying it and I'm sure most people wouldn't have a problem with it.

I do agree though that the post felt like a forced introduction. And he didn't stick around afterwards.
You've discarded one of Mac's suspicions of Dave and accepted the other. What is your own read on Dave?
I discarded the first one because, imo, the justification for his vote or lack of justification doesn't mean anything. He is new and isn't used to this format. I myself voted and I can't justify my choice because I don't know what's going on.

My read on him : I'm suspicious of him. I know him to be much more active. His post felt forced as if he just wanted to seem like he participated.
I am pinged the way that you made a passing remark to somewhat discredit me even though you agree that he's sus.
I don't know what 'pinged' means man lol.

I'm just giving my thoughts. You made two points about why he's sus. I disagreed with the first one, because I am in the same situation as him. Being new, not knowing the format and just voting with or without reason. I don't want to agree with an approach that can be used to suspect me too.
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DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:03 pm Why patronize the idea of me finding symptoms of you being bad if you are good Sloonster? If you are civ the symptoms wouldnt exist. Would you want me to be chasing my tail like a puppy if I was a civilian on your team?
I want town wilgy to do what town wilgy needs to do to feel comfortable in this game. I also don't appreciate being told I should address suspicions which don't exist, hence the tone of snark.
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Also, for the record: town read on novaselinenever.
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Sloonei wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:07 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:03 pm Why patronize the idea of me finding symptoms of you being bad if you are good Sloonster? If you are civ the symptoms wouldnt exist. Would you want me to be chasing my tail like a puppy if I was a civilian on your team?
I want town wilgy to do what town wilgy needs to do to feel comfortable in this game. I also don't appreciate being told I should address suspicions which don't exist, hence the tone of snark.
Why judge my suspicion as nonexistent without a question? You devote such time to your stream of posts and I didn't get one until someone else drew it out and I yelled about it. Porque?
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DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:03 pm
speedchuck wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:42 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:36 pm Bad guys are Hazlenut, Mac, and Sloonster.

Dis is de wae.
Not sure if serious

I want reasons for those first two. Don't care how shallow.
Care to guess 1st? Why wouldn't I be serious?
Nah, they're your reads. I don't care to guess. Besides, then you could just steal my reasons. Ain't gonna work. :dark:

Why wouldn't you be serious? Tone, your username, your sel-- I guess the selections are fine. Tone and username. :p
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:06 pm I'll put my continued concerns about Quin into words:

He has made a lot of posts in quick succession. Typically this is something I would like. It's great to facilitate content and to generate a real life bonafide Mafia game thread. However, in Quin's posts I see a lot of reads thrown into a heap with few or no legible origins -- they seem to merely exist for the sake of existence. This contrasts the facilitation provided by other early contributors (Sloonei, speedchuck, and MacDougall to name a few) which features reads drawn from visible thread content. Their reads might not be well-informed, understandably on Day 0, but I still know where they came from. Quin's reads? I generally don't know. I'm not sure he does either.

"Gut."

I question the sincerity of this facilitation effort and wonder if it's meant for appearances.
I've given three reads. Kyle, Sloonei, and Elohcin. All of which have clear origins if you don't need me to spell everything out to the letter.

I don't know why you're comparing my reads to others as though that factor alone is indicative of alignment.

It's Day 0 and you're already tunneling.
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okay before we get too much further i want to ask real quick...

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could you each briefly summarize your past mafia playing history? How long have you been playing for? What site are you from? Have you played on the syndicate before? If no, are there any players in this game you have prior experience playing with?
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Reply to Jay re Quin:
As a counter point, fake reads aren't hard. To steal your read on me Jay, I feel like a baddie would be more concerned with appearances than Quin seemed to be, and his reads would reflect that.

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speedchuck wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:11 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:03 pm
speedchuck wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:42 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:36 pm Bad guys are Hazlenut, Mac, and Sloonster.

Dis is de wae.
Not sure if serious

I want reasons for those first two. Don't care how shallow.
Care to guess 1st? Why wouldn't I be serious?
Nah, they're your reads. I don't care to guess. Besides, then you could just steal my reasons. Ain't gonna work. :dark:

Why wouldn't you be serious? Tone, your username, your sel-- I guess the selections are fine. Tone and username. :p
Fair. I respect that.

Gut and meta for both.

I'm curious as to why you excluded Sloonei in your question. Why?
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:13 pm This is MacDougall's first game ever.
U right. My b.
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Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:21 pm Quin, why are you town reading me in this game?
Gut.
I'm not sure what to do with this post from Quin most of all. Our conversation started with him giving me a town read. I then dragged us into a discussion of my recent mafia meta (Quin and I were recently a mafia hydra-pairing together on MU) and, after some initial hesitation, he identified some possible signs to differentiate between my town and scum play. I wanted to get a feel for whether or not these thoughts were something he was factoring into his read of me here (this did not seem to be the case), and instead his reason for town reading me was expressed in three letters: gut. I don't object to Quin gut reading me. But I don't like the sequence of events leading up to the declaration of this gut read and his answers to my questions did not seem to reflect an earnest progression of thoughts.
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Sloonei wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:16 pm
Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:21 pm Quin, why are you town reading me in this game?
Gut.
I'm not sure what to do with this post from Quin most of all. Our conversation started with him giving me a town read. I then dragged us into a discussion of my recent mafia meta (Quin and I were recently a mafia hydra-pairing together on MU) and, after some initial hesitation, he identified some possible signs to differentiate between my town and scum play. I wanted to get a feel for whether or not these thoughts were something he was factoring into his read of me here (this did not seem to be the case), and instead his reason for town reading me was expressed in three letters: gut. I don't object to Quin gut reading me. But I don't like the sequence of events leading up to the declaration of this gut read and his answers to my questions did not seem to reflect an earnest progression of thoughts.
That's because I wasn't progressing my read of you in your line of questioning.
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DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:13 pm
speedchuck wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:11 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:03 pm
speedchuck wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:42 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:36 pm Bad guys are Hazlenut, Mac, and Sloonster.

Dis is de wae.
Not sure if serious

I want reasons for those first two. Don't care how shallow.
Care to guess 1st? Why wouldn't I be serious?
Nah, they're your reads. I don't care to guess. Besides, then you could just steal my reasons. Ain't gonna work. :dark:

Why wouldn't you be serious? Tone, your username, your sel-- I guess the selections are fine. Tone and username. :p
Fair. I respect that.

Gut and meta for both.

I'm curious as to why you excluded Sloonei in your question. Why?
I'll let you by with that, but if we were actually in the voting stage and you went there, I'd want more. Like what the meta difference is.

Left Sloonei out for a few reasons:
Gauging your reaction if I left him off
Sloonei was already going to get after you about it XD
I already have a read on Sloon, but nothing much on the others

And I like putting quirks into my posts to see what happens.
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DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:07 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:03 pm Why patronize the idea of me finding symptoms of you being bad if you are good Sloonster? If you are civ the symptoms wouldnt exist. Would you want me to be chasing my tail like a puppy if I was a civilian on your team?
I want town wilgy to do what town wilgy needs to do to feel comfortable in this game. I also don't appreciate being told I should address suspicions which don't exist, hence the tone of snark.
Why judge my suspicion as nonexistent without a question? You devote such time to your stream of posts and I didn't get one until someone else drew it out and I yelled about it. Porque?
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Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:11 pm I've given three reads. Kyle, Sloonei, and Elohcin. All of which have clear origins if you don't need me to spell everything out to the letter.

I don't know why you're comparing my reads to others as though that factor alone is indicative of alignment.

It's Day 0 and you're already tunneling.
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Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:16 pm
Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:21 pm Quin, why are you town reading me in this game?
Gut.
I'm not sure what to do with this post from Quin most of all. Our conversation started with him giving me a town read. I then dragged us into a discussion of my recent mafia meta (Quin and I were recently a mafia hydra-pairing together on MU) and, after some initial hesitation, he identified some possible signs to differentiate between my town and scum play. I wanted to get a feel for whether or not these thoughts were something he was factoring into his read of me here (this did not seem to be the case), and instead his reason for town reading me was expressed in three letters: gut. I don't object to Quin gut reading me. But I don't like the sequence of events leading up to the declaration of this gut read and his answers to my questions did not seem to reflect an earnest progression of thoughts.
That's because I wasn't progressing my read of you in your line of questioning.
where did your read of me originate?
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:52 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:21 pm MacDougall is a civilian because he just explained the orange names in my rainbow list for me, with pretty much the same rationale, without me having to explain them myself.
Did I? Where did I do that?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:52 pm Dave
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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:52 pm Have felt pings from Dave, Quin and Nutella. Will explain them in a future post.
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:43 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:02 pm oh hey guys

most of the people who have posted so far look civ so far, but then most of them are the people who always look civ to me. Sloonei's alternate interpretation of Quin is interesting though and Quin is someone I'm always waffly on. :ponder:

Made is zany as usual. Not sure what he's on about but I think he's just being Made.

Out of the so-far-civ-reads I think my strongest 3 are Sloonei, Kyle, and Jack. They're safe from my D1 vote at this point unless something changes.

oh and welcome new people! I'm getting tired of reading posts from the same 6-7 people so let's see some thoughts k
Interesting that you hen picked who to make reads on/comment on after starting the post like you were about to skim read everybody.
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:09 pm
Dave wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:02 pm although i m new to format and lack knowledge of mortal kombat i voted for outworld too as it makes sense as explained by jay, given current scum reads i dont have one i see dat people sus quin but i have to read more from him to give a verdict
So Dave's only made this one post. I've got zero meta on this guy as I've never played with him and I do have a history of getting pinged by people incorrectly and given it's just one post it's probably a relatively meaningless ping. I simply don't like that he justified his vote for Outworld as simply as deferring to Jay's explanation, which was actually a relatively decent justification and that is not what I am calling into question, I just doubt the sincerity of Dave's belief in Jimmy being an adequate reason to vote.

Also it has a bit of a tone of a forced introductory post. Those more familiar with this Dave can comment on what his town intro posts are generally like or Dave is like in general.
I'm not satisfied that I did what you say I did given there are four of your orange reads and I only commented at length on one but I'll put it down to you just being enthusiastic and speaking out of line.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:58 pm
Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:50 pm
Made wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:48 pm Mac, what is your read of quin?
His reaction to the initial suspicion of him was fairly ambiguous. His lack of genuine townlike play is alarming. I have him as my biggest scumread.
lack of genuine townlike play, huh :ponder:
I see less overtly civilian inspiration in you than I'd expect from 40+ Day 0 posts.
I didn't re-read your content before I said that but if I am being honest I didn't even know you had made any reads. I've been trying to carefully read everything too. Sorry. :shrug:
Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:11 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:06 pm I'll put my continued concerns about Quin into words:

He has made a lot of posts in quick succession. Typically this is something I would like. It's great to facilitate content and to generate a real life bonafide Mafia game thread. However, in Quin's posts I see a lot of reads thrown into a heap with few or no legible origins -- they seem to merely exist for the sake of existence. This contrasts the facilitation provided by other early contributors (Sloonei, speedchuck, and MacDougall to name a few) which features reads drawn from visible thread content. Their reads might not be well-informed, understandably on Day 0, but I still know where they came from. Quin's reads? I generally don't know. I'm not sure he does either.

"Gut."

I question the sincerity of this facilitation effort and wonder if it's meant for appearances.
I've given three reads. Kyle, Sloonei, and Elohcin. All of which have clear origins if you don't need me to spell everything out to the letter.

I don't know why you're comparing my reads to others as though that factor alone is indicative of alignment.

It's Day 0 and you're already tunneling.
I don't think that is tunneling. What Wilgy is doing to Sloonei is tunneling. Jimmy is actually making reads based on your content. Wilgy said that Sloonei was bad and has now been provoking him in an attempt to justify his opinion. He's even refused to extrapolate on his reads.
Kylemii wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:11 pm okay before we get too much further i want to ask real quick...

@Dave
@Glorfindel
@Gumshoe
@lapluie
@MacDougall
@novaselinenever
@TonyStarkPrime

could you each briefly summarize your past mafia playing history? How long have you been playing for? What site are you from? Have you played on the syndicate before? If no, are there any players in this game you have prior experience playing with?
To what end?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:13 pm This is MacDougall's first game ever.
This.

PS. @wilgy, no actually I am a civ.
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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 0]

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[mention]Kylemii[/mention] Already answered the questions about Mafia.

I've never played on the syndicate. I'm not from any site on particular lol. I'm member of different forums and play on there. One of them is called NartoForums, DDL is a member and mentioned this game there. That's how I'm here.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:18 pm
Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:11 pm I've given three reads. Kyle, Sloonei, and Elohcin. All of which have clear origins if you don't need me to spell everything out to the letter.

I don't know why you're comparing my reads to others as though that factor alone is indicative of alignment.

It's Day 0 and you're already tunneling.
Green: You might as well tell me that you don't understand why I would read one guy as a civilian and another guy as mafia in general. The sincerity of content put in the thread and judgments thereof makes up a very large portion of the civilian side of this game we call Mafia and some call Werewolf.

Orange: Read me immediately.
Then why did you feel the need to support your point with mention of speedchuck's, Sloonei's and MacDougall's reads then? "Quin's reads are bad because theirs are more explicit". What?
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
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Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:21 pm Then why did you feel the need to support your point with mention of speedchuck's, Sloonei's and MacDougall's reads then? "Quin's reads are bad because theirs are more explicit". What?
Drawing a contrast to players who are making reads in a way I read as sincere sheds light on why I suspect yours to be insincere. This is obvious. You're making up questions and you didn't answer my demand.
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Sloonei wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:19 pm
Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:16 pm
Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:21 pm Quin, why are you town reading me in this game?
Gut.
I'm not sure what to do with this post from Quin most of all. Our conversation started with him giving me a town read. I then dragged us into a discussion of my recent mafia meta (Quin and I were recently a mafia hydra-pairing together on MU) and, after some initial hesitation, he identified some possible signs to differentiate between my town and scum play. I wanted to get a feel for whether or not these thoughts were something he was factoring into his read of me here (this did not seem to be the case), and instead his reason for town reading me was expressed in three letters: gut. I don't object to Quin gut reading me. But I don't like the sequence of events leading up to the declaration of this gut read and his answers to my questions did not seem to reflect an earnest progression of thoughts.
That's because I wasn't progressing my read of you in your line of questioning.
where did your read of me originate?
At some imprecise point when I wasn't even looking at the game.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:23 pm
Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:21 pm Then why did you feel the need to support your point with mention of speedchuck's, Sloonei's and MacDougall's reads then? "Quin's reads are bad because theirs are more explicit". What?
Drawing a contrast to players who are making reads in a way I read as sincere sheds light on why I suspect yours to be insincere. This is obvious. You're making up questions and you didn't answer my demand.
I don't give a damn about your demand. Stop looking in black and white.
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Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:24 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:23 pm
Quin wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:21 pm Then why did you feel the need to support your point with mention of speedchuck's, Sloonei's and MacDougall's reads then? "Quin's reads are bad because theirs are more explicit". What?
Drawing a contrast to players who are making reads in a way I read as sincere sheds light on why I suspect yours to be insincere. This is obvious. You're making up questions and you didn't answer my demand.
I don't give a damn about your demand. Stop looking in black and white.
I have no use for gray. Gray is a waste of my precious civilian time. You don't have to give a damn about my demand, but my capacity to believe in you is unlikely to change for the better if you cannot even provide a read on your attacker.
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