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I could lynch Wilgy. My vote is on Mac. I am definitely not lynching Kyle or Sloonei, whose present wagons frankly mystify me.
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wilgy? tldr?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:30 pm I could lynch Wilgy. My vote is on Mac. I am definitely not lynching Kyle or Sloonei, whose present wagons frankly mystify me.
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Placeholder vote on Wilgy for now. Feel free to follow or get upset so I can judge you.
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I am not inclined to vote for wilgy. As a loose impression I feel like zany, befuddling wilgy is more apt to be town. In recent memory, I cite Pirates wilgy (town) posting exclusively in emojis vs. Vocaroo/Seinfeld/Mountains wilgy (mafia) who featured no notable gimmicks that I can remember. His blind insistence that I am bad strikes me as a wilgy gimmick.
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I believe that unpredictability is fun. I also believe it can lead to some scrumptious reactions, and maybe even unearth some malicious intent.Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:07 pm Everyone is being quite crazy with their votes right now. I don't like this lack of seriousness in the beginning of big games like this. Everyone thinks they can just play around and vote here or there and it won't matter much. Dudes (and dudettes), if we try hard enough, we might be able to get a scum on Day 1.
But I'm not very good at spotting such behaviors, so I understand your frustration.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
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Pretty sure that Jay will lynch liars.Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:20 pmthis is my first game tooJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:18 pm Dave is moderately suspicious. I won't be lynching him today. I refuse to lynch any player in their first game on the site on Day 1.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
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See, I don't think so. Because Wilgy was helpful with the emoji's, and was reasoned and such. (I know I said the opposite during that game, but I lied. I was mafia.)Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:34 pm I am not inclined to vote for wilgy. As a loose impression I feel like zany, befuddling wilgy is more apt to be town. In recent memory, I cite Pirates wilgy (town) posting exclusively in emojis vs. Vocaroo/Seinfeld/Mountains wilgy (mafia) who featured no notable gimmicks that I can remember. His blind insistence that I am bad strikes me as a wilgy gimmick.
This game doesn't strike me as a gimmick. It strikes me as a ploy to cover up his lower-effort mafia play.
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I'm more on speedchuck's side here. Wilgy was a terrible lynch in Pirates because his emojis were clearly oriented toward a hunt, and the civilians were too lazy to figure that out. In this game I don't really have a clue what Wilgy is doing. All I could guess in the civilian spectrum would be "tunnel Sloonei and see how people handle it". I don't really get that impression.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:37 pmSee, I don't think so. Because Wilgy was helpful with the emoji's, and was reasoned and such. (I know I said the opposite during that game, but I lied. I was mafia.)Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:34 pm I am not inclined to vote for wilgy. As a loose impression I feel like zany, befuddling wilgy is more apt to be town. In recent memory, I cite Pirates wilgy (town) posting exclusively in emojis vs. Vocaroo/Seinfeld/Mountains wilgy (mafia) who featured no notable gimmicks that I can remember. His blind insistence that I am bad strikes me as a wilgy gimmick.
This game doesn't strike me as a gimmick. It strikes me as a ploy to cover up his lower-effort mafia play.
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You have too many marmots in the orange section of your rainbow.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:39 pm speedchuck
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Another thing worth considering with wilgy, as I realized in that post, is that he's been scum in three games near consecutively and lost all three. That's gotta be exhausting. I'm not sure I sense the type of fatigue he exhibited in vocaroo when he neglected to post (granted, that game was a unique beast). He hasn't been tremendously active here, but he's cited a RL reason for that and made off-beat but seemingly sincere contributions when he has been here. I just don't feel like this is scum wilgy for the fourth game in a row.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:37 pmSee, I don't think so. Because Wilgy was helpful with the emoji's, and was reasoned and such. (I know I said the opposite during that game, but I lied. I was mafia.)Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:34 pm I am not inclined to vote for wilgy. As a loose impression I feel like zany, befuddling wilgy is more apt to be town. In recent memory, I cite Pirates wilgy (town) posting exclusively in emojis vs. Vocaroo/Seinfeld/Mountains wilgy (mafia) who featured no notable gimmicks that I can remember. His blind insistence that I am bad strikes me as a wilgy gimmick.
This game doesn't strike me as a gimmick. It strikes me as a ploy to cover up his lower-effort mafia play.
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Part of me wants to agree.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:45 pmAnother thing worth considering with wilgy, as I realized in that post, is that he's been scum in three games near consecutively and lost all three. That's gotta be exhausting. I'm not sure I sense the type of fatigue he exhibited in vocaroo when he neglected to post (granted, that game was a unique beast). He hasn't been tremendously active here, but he's cited a RL reason for that and made off-beat but seemingly sincere contributions when he has been here. I just don't feel like this is scum wilgy for the fourth game in a row.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:37 pmSee, I don't think so. Because Wilgy was helpful with the emoji's, and was reasoned and such. (I know I said the opposite during that game, but I lied. I was mafia.)Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:34 pm I am not inclined to vote for wilgy. As a loose impression I feel like zany, befuddling wilgy is more apt to be town. In recent memory, I cite Pirates wilgy (town) posting exclusively in emojis vs. Vocaroo/Seinfeld/Mountains wilgy (mafia) who featured no notable gimmicks that I can remember. His blind insistence that I am bad strikes me as a wilgy gimmick.
This game doesn't strike me as a gimmick. It strikes me as a ploy to cover up his lower-effort mafia play.
Part of me is scared of gambler's fallacy.
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i know the fact that it's a vote for me in general probably poisons the waters a little but I continue to not like Jack's reasons for voting for me. He keeps coming back to the shiny thing, and citing tone, but also points out things that are regular parts of my townplay.
i also don't think i even know what "shiny" means anymore
and things like this don't make sense to me. Another player making a case that I found unconvincing on my suspect wouldn't bolster my confidence in that read. I get the impression you don't actually believe in your read on me that much.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:22 pmKyle I've talked about my tone read and Mac, who I believe to be good and have good instincts, is voting there. Mac's actual case is unconvincing but I've seen Mac make unconvincing cases and been right on the money.
i also don't think i even know what "shiny" means anymore
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also.... swearing isn't a stress response for me? I'm 26 and have no real life responsibilities. swearing is a sign of "I feel comfortable speaking freely around people I view as peers", or sometimes that previous thing combined with bewilderment
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This is exactly how I interpret wilgy in this game right now. I don't see a mafia motivation for his actions.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:36 pm Imagine a civilian team in a Mafia game can be categorized into "positions", like you might see on a sports team. In soccer there are forwards, defenders and goalies. In basketball there are fowards, guards, and centers, etc. Consider a civilian team (and if you like a mafia team too, why not), and what those "positions" might be, and how you think they should ideally be arranged to form an optimal civilian roster.
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this is character assassinationSloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:50 pm RE: "Design the perfect civilian faction"This is exactly how I interpret wilgy in this game right now. I don't see a mafia motivation for his actions.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:36 pm Imagine a civilian team in a Mafia game can be categorized into "positions", like you might see on a sports team. In soccer there are forwards, defenders and goalies. In basketball there are fowards, guards, and centers, etc. Consider a civilian team (and if you like a mafia team too, why not), and what those "positions" might be, and how you think they should ideally be arranged to form an optimal civilian roster.
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nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:19 pm I'm fairly occupied today (and will be tomorrow as well) so I'm keeping up with the thread but not putting a lot of time into analysis or anything. I feel better about Quin every time he posts so I don't think I'll be voting there. I haven't gotten the most stellar vibes from LC, speedchuck, or Tony, so I might go with one of those, though the votes are already pretty spread out. Looking at the player list I get the feeling we've only been talking about a subset of players, mostly those who have had more presence in the thread, and naturally most of the higher posters look more townie... idk, day 1 always feels like this and I wish I had more confident thoughts on anyone but I really don't. If I have more time later tonight I might try a rainbow but it'll be mostly yellow.
She keeps saying she's waffley in other posts, but I don't see that in her reads. What I do see is a bunch of unsubstantiated reads based on 'vibes'. Even if I agree with some of her reads, I don't recall a single substantiated case from her.
And maybe this is just me being personal, but when I responded to that first post in topic, called her out on player salad, I got nothing. It feels like what we were accusing Made of on D0, but less... genuine?
I recommend ISOing her. Hard to put into words.
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I like your strategy Jack. I support the notion of PoE, of where you narrow your suspect pool by removing non-suspects. Problem is, that tends to leave me behind as a "well, I have no reason to think he's good". Not unlike what speedchuck said.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:22 pmCall it a mix of initial tone/powerlevel and overreaction to the picking of nits.
I have no reason to think Doc or Eloh are good. (Eloh's standard entrance of "you guys already posted X pages?!? is expected regardless of alignment.) Marmot, Sig go here, too.
Kyle I've talked about my tone read and Mac, who I believe to be good and have good instincts, is voting there. Mac's actual case is unconvincing but I've seen Mac make unconvincing cases and been right on the money.
LC is being voted for by Nutella, who I think is good but I'm unmoved by her case. Jimmy voting here doesn't do much for me and wouldn't even if I was certain he was bad. He's distancing Jack faker outer master. As for LC himself, he's with Eloh and Doc, no reason to think he's good yet. But actually? I don't want to vote for him. I'm decent at reading LC and will be more likely to figure him out later.
Tony falls into the same category as LC. I'll likely figure him out later so why lynch him Day 1?
Basically, take list. Remove people I haven't played with or who haven't checked in and people I have reason to believe are town and two people I think I'll get later.
That leaves a handful of people I know that I don't think much about and Kyle with a bad tone read.
I'd say I've convinced myself to vote Kyle at this point but since I started with the premise of "allow Sloonei to weigh in on my suspect pool" I think I'll do just that.
So uh, could you kindly remove me from your list.
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Do you at least see what I consider to be mafia motivation for his actions? If you see what I'm saying and disagree, I'll shut up. But if you aren't getting it, I can explain again.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:50 pm RE: "Design the perfect civilian faction"This is exactly how I interpret wilgy in this game right now. I don't see a mafia motivation for his actions.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:36 pm Imagine a civilian team in a Mafia game can be categorized into "positions", like you might see on a sports team. In soccer there are forwards, defenders and goalies. In basketball there are fowards, guards, and centers, etc. Consider a civilian team (and if you like a mafia team too, why not), and what those "positions" might be, and how you think they should ideally be arranged to form an optimal civilian roster.
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I don't feel like this is goofball Wilgy.
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It's not a gambler's fallacy. It's an assessment of what I think wilgy's mindset would be in this game based on recent history. It's not impossible that wilgy could draw four scum cards in a row. But I feel like there is more of a spark to his posts in this game than there have been in those previous games.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:46 pmPart of me wants to agree.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:45 pmAnother thing worth considering with wilgy, as I realized in that post, is that he's been scum in three games near consecutively and lost all three. That's gotta be exhausting. I'm not sure I sense the type of fatigue he exhibited in vocaroo when he neglected to post (granted, that game was a unique beast). He hasn't been tremendously active here, but he's cited a RL reason for that and made off-beat but seemingly sincere contributions when he has been here. I just don't feel like this is scum wilgy for the fourth game in a row.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:37 pmSee, I don't think so. Because Wilgy was helpful with the emoji's, and was reasoned and such. (I know I said the opposite during that game, but I lied. I was mafia.)Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:34 pm I am not inclined to vote for wilgy. As a loose impression I feel like zany, befuddling wilgy is more apt to be town. In recent memory, I cite Pirates wilgy (town) posting exclusively in emojis vs. Vocaroo/Seinfeld/Mountains wilgy (mafia) who featured no notable gimmicks that I can remember. His blind insistence that I am bad strikes me as a wilgy gimmick.
This game doesn't strike me as a gimmick. It strikes me as a ploy to cover up his lower-effort mafia play.
Part of me is scared of gambler's fallacy.
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This is exactly how I interpret wilgy in this game right now. I don't see a mafia motivation for his actions.
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[mention]Marmot[/mention], can you either make or point me to a post of yours that you are proud of? With some tasty OG reads or cool observations, preferably with reasons behind them?
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What's wrong with PoE time? I sense some trepidation from you.
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That he's tunneling me to cover for lazy scum play? I can see it but I disagree with the interpretation at present.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:53 pmDo you at least see what I consider to be mafia motivation for his actions? If you see what I'm saying and disagree, I'll shut up. But if you aren't getting it, I can explain again.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:50 pm RE: "Design the perfect civilian faction"This is exactly how I interpret wilgy in this game right now. I don't see a mafia motivation for his actions.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:36 pm Imagine a civilian team in a Mafia game can be categorized into "positions", like you might see on a sports team. In soccer there are forwards, defenders and goalies. In basketball there are fowards, guards, and centers, etc. Consider a civilian team (and if you like a mafia team too, why not), and what those "positions" might be, and how you think they should ideally be arranged to form an optimal civilian roster.
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1x Goofball -- often civilian factions can genuinely benefit from having someone screwing around a bit (so long as they still attempt to play the game productively). They create a unique and challenging environment for those who already know them to be innocent. More than just one of these though amounts to a significantly less informative thread. Typically low-to-moderate in post count. Example: DrWilgy
I don't feel like this is goofball Wilgy.
wilgy is not a strong town read and I don't want to give that impression by advocating so much for him. But he is a town read nonetheless, so I don't support him as the top lynch candidate for today. I'm just presenting my argument for him. I'll look into sig right now.
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Just making sure.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:57 pmThat he's tunneling me to cover for lazy scum play? I can see it but I disagree with the interpretation at present.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:53 pmDo you at least see what I consider to be mafia motivation for his actions? If you see what I'm saying and disagree, I'll shut up. But if you aren't getting it, I can explain again.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:50 pm RE: "Design the perfect civilian faction"This is exactly how I interpret wilgy in this game right now. I don't see a mafia motivation for his actions.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:36 pm Imagine a civilian team in a Mafia game can be categorized into "positions", like you might see on a sports team. In soccer there are forwards, defenders and goalies. In basketball there are fowards, guards, and centers, etc. Consider a civilian team (and if you like a mafia team too, why not), and what those "positions" might be, and how you think they should ideally be arranged to form an optimal civilian roster.
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I don't feel like this is goofball Wilgy.
wilgy is not a strong town read and I don't want to give that impression by advocating so much for him. But he is a town read nonetheless, so I don't support him as the top lynch candidate for today. I'm just presenting my argument for him. I'll look into sig right now.
I can see yours too. I just mostly disagree at present.
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Yes. The one where I call you out for voting for me because you have no reason not to, and also because I voted for nova because I have no reason not to.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:55 pm Marmot, can you either make or point me to a post of yours that you are proud of? With some tasty OG reads or cool observations, preferably with reasons behind them?
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I can empathize.
Do you think it's a viable strategy?
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Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:59 pmYes. The one where I call you out for voting for me because you have no reason not to, and also because I voted for nova because I have no reason not to.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:55 pm Marmot, can you either make or point me to a post of yours that you are proud of? With some tasty OG reads or cool observations, preferably with reasons behind them?
Well played.
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Why does this post exist?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:28 am Mac that yellow pile makes me want to throw up. I want to vomit right now. Actually now I am vomiting. I am puking all over my fingers as I type this. This is so fucking disgusting. I can't believe this is happening. I need to just get up and go to my toilet. I better end this post. Oh my goodness there is puke everywhere.
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I hate null reads, and once in a while even I make a post for fun.Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:04 pmWhy does this post exist?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:28 am Mac that yellow pile makes me want to throw up. I want to vomit right now. Actually now I am vomiting. I am puking all over my fingers as I type this. This is so fucking disgusting. I can't believe this is happening. I need to just get up and go to my toilet. I better end this post. Oh my goodness there is puke everywhere.
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I don’t think it’s really inaccurate. You did present yourself as trying to talk to Made but there wasn’t anything until after I posted that read. That said, I’m inclined to move my vote off you but not until I catch up.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:04 pm I went looking for the reason why I have a single vote. Here it is:This is an inaccurate observation. I've talked directly with Made a bunch in this game. Granted, a big chunk of that came after this vote was placed (Starting here), but that doesn't mean I didn't try to engage with Made prior to that. Look here, here, here, and here. I've spent a lot of energy in this game trying to talk to Made, but I was unsuccessful until last night because he simply wasn't in the thread or wasn't giving me the answers I was looking for. But we were both here and he gave me good answers last night.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:04 am So I can’t figure out how to ISO him and I’m on mobile so everything might be a little clunky, but basically I was reading Made and Sloonei as w/w. Sloonei talked about Made with others but never directly as far as I can tell, which seems weird.
I talked about Made a lot because I thought he was a good lightning rod for conversation and anyone who was in the thread during Day 0/early Day 1 should have been able to read him in some way.
As for ISOs on mobile, we don't have a direct link to that for some reason. But Epi has updated the player list in Post #3 to include links to all of our ISOs. There is a direct ISO link on the desktop display.
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My inclination is say I like this post from sig. It's fairly comprehensive despite him being under the gun a little bit. He's not in an enviable position (announced he'd be inactive at the start in sign-ups, and then this game blew up on Day 0 in his absence), but there's visible effort on his part to work his way into the game. Beyond that, it's hard for me to judge the legitimacy of his reads just yet. I'm not sure I see a reason to lynch him today.sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:41 pmWell hello there, looks like I've kinda caught up. So I'm going to post a few thoughts when they're still fresh from my catch up then I've gotta go for a run and will be back to ISO and reread some things later. What I'm seeing right now is we have a major three way smack down going on between Jay, Sloonie and Jack which I still don't really get. Mac is prodding, but as someone pointed out he's acting much more mellow which is odd, quin/kyle have both been under some suspicion which I'm not sure is justified based on there game play/what people are accusing them of and we have a fair amount of new players.
I'm reading Glorf as solid town and a few other players as lean towns who I've already listed. The main issue I'm having right now is that I don't see anyone being scummy.
Kyle had some odd early game posts, but I think has come back from it.
Made and nutella both look okay to me, but I'm curious why she placed me so far down on her list.
I'd like to see some more posts by Wilgy, Eloh, MM, and the newer players I feel like a few posters have the vast majority of posts/content which could let scum wallflower and not be noticed. I also find it odd that Wilgy isn't being as active/odd as he usually is. This could point to him being scum and trying to live longer, but seeing how often he's mislynched I don't think I'd vote for him.
LC is looking good I'd rather not lynch him.
Speed pinged me a bit, but I can't remember why so I'll need to go back and check.
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where are you in your catch up right now?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:08 pmI don’t think it’s really inaccurate. You did present yourself as trying to talk to Made but there wasn’t anything until after I posted that read. That said, I’m inclined to move my vote off you but not until I catch up.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:04 pm I went looking for the reason why I have a single vote. Here it is:This is an inaccurate observation. I've talked directly with Made a bunch in this game. Granted, a big chunk of that came after this vote was placed (Starting here), but that doesn't mean I didn't try to engage with Made prior to that. Look here, here, here, and here. I've spent a lot of energy in this game trying to talk to Made, but I was unsuccessful until last night because he simply wasn't in the thread or wasn't giving me the answers I was looking for. But we were both here and he gave me good answers last night.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:04 am So I can’t figure out how to ISO him and I’m on mobile so everything might be a little clunky, but basically I was reading Made and Sloonei as w/w. Sloonei talked about Made with others but never directly as far as I can tell, which seems weird.
I talked about Made a lot because I thought he was a good lightning rod for conversation and anyone who was in the thread during Day 0/early Day 1 should have been able to read him in some way.
As for ISOs on mobile, we don't have a direct link to that for some reason. But Epi has updated the player list in Post #3 to include links to all of our ISOs. There is a direct ISO link on the desktop display.
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What I'm digging at is this: even though you've been cruelly victimized by this particular strategy of playing mafia, do you think it is a successful tool that can be used to hunt the scummy players and/or would you use it yourself?
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Just finished. Town reading Mac, null reading Kyle. Probably not going to vote either today. I’m gonna go read day 1 of some Maf JOH games because he isn’t giving off what I consider to be “baddie JOH feel” but I wanna make sure.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:10 pmwhere are you in your catch up right now?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:08 pmI don’t think it’s really inaccurate. You did present yourself as trying to talk to Made but there wasn’t anything until after I posted that read. That said, I’m inclined to move my vote off you but not until I catch up.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:04 pm I went looking for the reason why I have a single vote. Here it is:This is an inaccurate observation. I've talked directly with Made a bunch in this game. Granted, a big chunk of that came after this vote was placed (Starting here), but that doesn't mean I didn't try to engage with Made prior to that. Look here, here, here, and here. I've spent a lot of energy in this game trying to talk to Made, but I was unsuccessful until last night because he simply wasn't in the thread or wasn't giving me the answers I was looking for. But we were both here and he gave me good answers last night.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:04 am So I can’t figure out how to ISO him and I’m on mobile so everything might be a little clunky, but basically I was reading Made and Sloonei as w/w. Sloonei talked about Made with others but never directly as far as I can tell, which seems weird.
I talked about Made a lot because I thought he was a good lightning rod for conversation and anyone who was in the thread during Day 0/early Day 1 should have been able to read him in some way.
As for ISOs on mobile, we don't have a direct link to that for some reason. But Epi has updated the player list in Post #3 to include links to all of our ISOs. There is a direct ISO link on the desktop display.
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Cool. I was gonna recommend not bothering to read everything if you had a lot of work to do. Can you elaborate on your town read of Mac?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:13 pm Just finished. Town reading Mac, null reading Kyle. Probably not going to vote either today. I’m gonna go read day 1 of some Maf JOH games because he isn’t giving off what I consider to be “baddie JOH feel” but I wanna make sure.
I look forward to the results of your JOH homework. I value your insight on him more than anyone else's.
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[mention]Made[/mention] [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] what do you think is the strongest point against Mac right now?
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[mention]DrWilgy[/mention], I want to hear how Sloonei is distancing from Mac. Despite listing them both as mafia, and saying they're distancing (or Sloonei is) I don't see any connections you've drawn between the two.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:54 pmInteresting. Why me?speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:20 pm My suspects at this point (meaning people I'd be willing to lynch): Kylemii, Nutella, LC, marmot, wilgy.
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My reads are usually based on vibes. There is some substance/reasoning behind them but I have a hard time putting them into words or pulling specific posts because it's usually more general/based on their whole body of posts. I don't usually do big quotey iso cases, it's just not how I play.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:52 pm
She keeps saying she's waffley in other posts, but I don't see that in her reads. What I do see is a bunch of unsubstantiated reads based on 'vibes'. Even if I agree with some of her reads, I don't recall a single substantiated case from her.
And maybe this is just me being personal, but when I responded to that first post in topic, called her out on player salad, I got nothing. It feels like what we were accusing Made of on D0, but less... genuine?
I recommend ISOing her. Hard to put into words.
I'm not sure what you meant about the player salad accusation. The closest I've come to player salad is naming the three players I've gotten the worst vibes from.
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This was the post that initiated the big exchange between Mac/Jay/quin, and I didn't love it. Quin was the thread's first substantial suspect, so I could see a hypothetical mafia member trying to seize the opportunity of pushing his mislynch before anything stable materializes. I don't think the reasons Mac gives for doubting him are all that intriguing. I also don't like the way he framed the entire case in the beginning: "Personally I would like to ultimately see quin lynched." Reads like he's already made up his mind on the direction he'd like to see the thread move in and is just trying to push it there.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:06 am Personally I would like to ultimately see quin lynched. I feel he is the most compelling lynch and given the volume he has posted if the only good reason anyone has to refute the bad stuff is that he would probably not post as much as a mafia player with bad internet well I disagree and that's an awful reason.
Jimmy. If you were a mafia player who had bad internet and were one of the few players looking lynchable would you post with less frequency than if you were town with bad internet? I feel entirely the opposite and having really thought about it I really question the nature of the analysis from you. Bad look.
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So you agree, then.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:26 pm*munches on player salad with a side of nutella*nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:19 pm I'm fairly occupied today (and will be tomorrow as well) so I'm keeping up with the thread but not putting a lot of time into analysis or anything. I feel better about Quin every time he posts so I don't think I'll be voting there. I haven't gotten the most stellar vibes from LC, speedchuck, or Tony, so I might go with one of those, though the votes are already pretty spread out. Looking at the player list I get the feeling we've only been talking about a subset of players, mostly those who have had more presence in the thread, and naturally most of the higher posters look more townie... idk, day 1 always feels like this and I wish I had more confident thoughts on anyone but I really don't. If I have more time later tonight I might try a rainbow but it'll be mostly yellow.
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for any other players i'd see that as a red flag, but is it alignment indicative for MacDougall? he did the same thing with me, and it sounds like this might just be part of his meta