Mortal Kombat Mafia [ENDGAME]

[speedchuck]

Right now I am feeling like lynching in the DrWilgy/novaselinenever set. speedchuck, can you tell me what you like about the latter?

Yeah, I got nothing. That's what I get for doing a gutread list without looking back at D1 first.

Nova's tone felt genuine when he wouldn't provide old games he was in. A few other posts felt genuine. But the actual content was just not there, and his absence/softreads could be attributed to nerves.

Note that he did give a couple of decent questions and one scumread... on Mac.

I'd still just throw the guy at null.

[Glorfindel]

Rainbow of the remains

speedchuck
Glorfindel
Quin
lapluie
novaselinenever
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Rabbit8
Dom
Elohcin
Simon
Dave
Marmot
Made
Long Con
Simon
nutella
dunya
TonyStarkPrime
DrWilgy

linki: Because Epi submitted Kansas to the Syndicate Album of the Week last week, and I revealed that I am a huge Kansas fan. They are in my top 5 bands ever.

I think with a little change, this has merit.

[speedchuck]

Rainbow of the remains

speedchuck
Glorfindel
Quin
lapluie
novaselinenever
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Rabbit8
Dom
Elohcin
Simon
Dave
Marmot
Made
Long Con
Simon
nutella
dunya
TonyStarkPrime
DrWilgy

linki: Because Epi submitted Kansas to the Syndicate Album of the Week last week, and I revealed that I am a huge Kansas fan. They are in my top 5 bands ever.

I think with a little change, this has merit.

Feel free to revise. I'd like to see your list.

[Glorfindel]

Rainbow of the remains

speedchuck
Glorfindel
Quin
lapluie
novaselinenever
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Rabbit8
Dom
Elohcin
Simon
Dave
Marmot
Made
Long Con
Simon
nutella
dunya
TonyStarkPrime
DrWilgy

linki: Because Epi submitted Kansas to the Syndicate Album of the Week last week, and I revealed that I am a huge Kansas fan. They are in my top 5 bands ever.

I think with a little change, this has merit.

Feel free to reviseI. I'd like to see your list.

Sig’s participation isn’t great but is judgement is generally sound. He openly vouched for Lon Con (at a time that I recall he was taking some heat) so the fact that Sig was Town I think suggests he (Lon Con) could be a few places further up that list. I’m also slightly perplexed as to why Novasalinever is ranked so high, I can’t recall anything from them to justify that. I don’t know that I’d rate JoH quite THAT high and I’ll confess, I’m really starting to warm to Kyle.

[rabbit8]

Reread.... Braille?

Can't decipher.................................................

[Kylemii]

welcome rabbit

[Jackofhearts2005]

Kylemii, I haven't played either vocaroo game, but my impression from what I've heard is that Eloh tended to participate more in vocaroo than she normally does in traditional text-based games. I've seen her normal style here, nothing alignment-indicative either way.

Disagree. Eloh normally tries to post freaking something. The only post with content in it is an offhanded comment at me that I asked her what she meant 3 days ago and she never answered.

[mention]Quin[/mention]

Your thoughts on Eloh? I remember you being right about her when I was wrong in Mountains.

[Quin]

Kylemii, I haven't played either vocaroo game, but my impression from what I've heard is that Eloh tended to participate more in vocaroo than she normally does in traditional text-based games. I've seen her normal style here, nothing alignment-indicative either way.

Disagree. Eloh normally tries to post freaking something. The only post with content in it is an offhanded comment at me that I asked her what she meant 3 days ago and she never answered.

@Quin

Your thoughts on Eloh? I remember you being right about her when I was wrong in Mountains.

I'm glad at least one of my reads have credibility

I think she's good here. I liked her first post, a massive middle finger to the activity of the thread for some reason.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Glorfindel
Quin
speedchuck
nutella
Kylemii
Made
JaggedJimmyJay (massive tinfoil being ignored for now)
TonyStarkPrime
Long Con
Rabbit
Dom
Dave
Marmot
novaselinenever
Simon
lapluie
dunya
Elohcin
DrWilgy


Here's my problem. There's 6 players between a player I barely think is town and a player I barely think is bad. This whole list reads more like a "who is trying" list and with the Day 2 we just had, that's dangerous.

Still, I'm pretty confident of my Wilgy read and that's the most important bit.

[novaselinenever]

I was restricted to 1 word per post during Day 2.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Kylemii, I haven't played either vocaroo game, but my impression from what I've heard is that Eloh tended to participate more in vocaroo than she normally does in traditional text-based games. I've seen her normal style here, nothing alignment-indicative either way.

Disagree. Eloh normally tries to post freaking something. The only post with content in it is an offhanded comment at me that I asked her what she meant 3 days ago and she never answered.

@Quin

Your thoughts on Eloh? I remember you being right about her when I was wrong in Mountains.

I'm glad at least one of my reads have credibility

I think she's good here. I liked her first post, a massive middle finger to the activity of the thread for some reason.

Isn't that literally Eloh in every game?

When given the chance to catch up and take the lead because of players who would normally dominate discussion (Jack, Jimmy, Sloonei, Quin) being quieted one way or another, she told everyone to stop messing around so we could figure out who to lynch....then didn't do anything.

[Quin]

I was restricted to 1 word per post during Day 2.

why do you think that was?

[Quin]

Kylemii, I haven't played either vocaroo game, but my impression from what I've heard is that Eloh tended to participate more in vocaroo than she normally does in traditional text-based games. I've seen her normal style here, nothing alignment-indicative either way.

Disagree. Eloh normally tries to post freaking something. The only post with content in it is an offhanded comment at me that I asked her what she meant 3 days ago and she never answered.

@Quin

Your thoughts on Eloh? I remember you being right about her when I was wrong in Mountains.

I'm glad at least one of my reads have credibility

I think she's good here. I liked her first post, a massive middle finger to the activity of the thread for some reason.

Isn't that literally Eloh in every game?

When given the chance to catch up and take the lead because of players who would normally dominate discussion (Jack, Jimmy, Sloonei, Quin) being quieted one way or another, she told everyone to stop messing around so we could figure out who to lynch....then didn't do anything.

I think it's a fine line. Here's the post itself:

What?! You are on page 4?! Umm......This is why I don't play big games, Epi. I will see you all when we are down to about 12 players and one of you can catch me up.

There's a sort of stubborn confidence in there that I don't see coming from scum. I also think she has a tell which I'm not seeing yet, but I'm more likely to see that after she's had some pressure put on her.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Everyone is being quite crazy with their votes right now. I don't like this lack of seriousness in the beginning of big games like this. Everyone thinks they can just play around and vote here or there and it won't matter much. Dudes (and dudettes), if we try hard enough, we might be able to get a scum on Day 1.

I'd like people to weigh in on this post.

This implies Eloh is ready to go, excited to play and down to catch some scum....but then she never tries.

Did she get busy? Or is she faking?

[novaselinenever]

I was restricted to 1 word per post during Day 2.

why do you think that was?

I really couldn't tell you. Maybe because I wasn't active Day 0/1, I had something like 5 posts. Other than that, I have no idea.

[speedchuck]

I was restricted to 1 word per post during Day 2.

why do you think that was?

[Quin]

I was restricted to 1 word per post during Day 2.

why do you think that was?

My line of questioning is not a joke, speedchuck.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I had to post in Fire Emblem quotes btw. I asked Epi if I could use comics and memes as long as I didn't use OC.

Meant to post this at basically everyone.

[Quin]

Everyone is being quite crazy with their votes right now. I don't like this lack of seriousness in the beginning of big games like this. Everyone thinks they can just play around and vote here or there and it won't matter much. Dudes (and dudettes), if we try hard enough, we might be able to get a scum on Day 1.

I'd like people to weigh in on this post.

This implies Eloh is ready to go, excited to play and down to catch some scum....but then she never tries.

Did she get busy? Or is she faking?

I think we saw average Elohcin activity on Day 1, but that did drop Day 2. I'd have to fact check that but it sounds right to me.

[lapluie]

Glorfindel
Quin
speedchuck
nutella
Kylemii
Made
JaggedJimmyJay (massive tinfoil being ignored for now)
TonyStarkPrime
Long Con
Rabbit
Dom
Dave
Marmot
novaselinenever
Simon
lapluie
dunya
Elohcin
DrWilgy


Here's my problem. There's 6 players between a player I barely think is town and a player I barely think is bad. This whole list reads more like a "who is trying" list and with the Day 2 we just had, that's dangerous.

Still, I'm pretty confident of my Wilgy read and that's the most important bit.

Orange is totally not my color pal

[lapluie]

I was restricted to 1 word per post during Day 2.

why do you think that was?

I noticed you were trying to get him to talk on day 1 of the chaotic phase, I see now.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Glorfindel
Quin
speedchuck
nutella
Kylemii
Made
JaggedJimmyJay (massive tinfoil being ignored for now)
TonyStarkPrime
Long Con
Rabbit
Dom
Dave
Marmot
novaselinenever
Simon
lapluie
dunya
Elohcin
DrWilgy


Here's my problem. There's 6 players between a player I barely think is town and a player I barely think is bad. This whole list reads more like a "who is trying" list and with the Day 2 we just had, that's dangerous.

Still, I'm pretty confident of my Wilgy read and that's the most important bit.

Orange is totally not my color pal

So bring yourself out of that section, friendo.

[Quin]

[Quin]

nvermind this is better

[lapluie]

Well I'm not quite sure what I have to defend in this situation? If it was because I was clueless as to what has been happening, I was. Mortal kombat theme isn't even a game I've played once, ever so that alone was challenging, I figured it was part of the game to act according to everbody's erratic behaviours, what do I make of that?! I did notice at the very end Nutellas posts were givign some sort of clues, I figured that out on last day. Quin was just as confusing giving oriental menu prices, ignored him. Tony kept repeating iron man.. what?! Glorfindel was the only one I had to side with & go along with what is happening. I noticed also how I think (?) Speedchuck or was it jack who gave out "warning signs" whenever I had placed a vote as in I shouldn't have. That's all I got really. I placed vote on Simons because he looked very suspicious placing a vote on already a outnumbered lynch vote, with no reason but bandwagon. @j[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]

[lapluie]

[ytubehd][/ytubehd]

I was restricted to 1 word per post during Day 2.

oh yeah, I forgot about your vote, why was it tony?

[speedchuck]

I was restricted to 1 word per post during Day 2.

why do you think that was?

My line of questioning is not a joke, speedchuck.

But Epi's choice was pretty funny, no?

[Quin]

I was restricted to 1 word per post during Day 2.

why do you think that was?

My line of questioning is not a joke, speedchuck.

But Epi's choice was pretty funny, no?

yes

[lapluie]

The Sig lynch was bad.
Dunya is bad for starting it.

1. Sig is always wishy-washy
2. Waffley behavior is a textbook EZ suspicion to put on mislynches, when it can really go both ways. Town can be genuinely uncertain as easily as mafia can be nervous
3. Sig couldn't defend easily, and this is a mostly brand-new suspicion. That's the reason I'd rather have gone with a D1 case. Now we're back to square one.
4. Sig's lynch gained momentum too easily. If half the scumteam wasn't on it, I will eat a Kansas CD.

Dunya replaced in, and her first action was to go through the thread, pick the easiest mislynch possible, and drive it home while Sig couldn't defend himself and no better cases could be made. Screw that.

Okay cool post, this definitely helps, so dunya started the sig lynch, wonder why others followed suit.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Well I'm not quite sure what I have to defend in this situation? If it was because I was clueless as to what has been happening, I was. Mortal kombat theme isn't even a game I've played once, ever so that alone was challenging, I figured it was part of the game to act according to everbody's erratic behaviours, what do I make of that?! I did notice at the very end Nutellas posts were givign some sort of clues, I figured that out on last day. Quin was just as confusing giving oriental menu prices, ignored him. Tony kept repeating iron man.. what?! Glorfindel was the only one I had to side with & go along with what is happening. I noticed also how I think (?) Speedchuck or was it jack who gave out "warning signs" whenever I had placed a vote as in I shouldn't have. That's all I got really. I placed vote on Simons because he looked very suspicious placing a vote on already a outnumbered lynch vote, with no reason but bandwagon. @j@Jackofhearts2005

Quin was rating posts. He told Nutella.

I was calling out disgusting scummy behavior.

LC called Tony out for voting for Glor when everybody has him as town.

Kyle and Dunya presented actual cases.

Two cursed players weighed in on everybody else.

I don't mean to be rude but...did you not catch any of that?

[lapluie]

Well I'm not quite sure what I have to defend in this situation? If it was because I was clueless as to what has been happening, I was. Mortal kombat theme isn't even a game I've played once, ever so that alone was challenging, I figured it was part of the game to act according to everbody's erratic behaviours, what do I make of that?! I did notice at the very end Nutellas posts were givign some sort of clues, I figured that out on last day. Quin was just as confusing giving oriental menu prices, ignored him. Tony kept repeating iron man.. what?! Glorfindel was the only one I had to side with & go along with what is happening. I noticed also how I think (?) Speedchuck or was it jack who gave out "warning signs" whenever I had placed a vote as in I shouldn't have. That's all I got really. I placed vote on Simons because he looked very suspicious placing a vote on already a outnumbered lynch vote, with no reason but bandwagon. @j@Jackofhearts2005

Quin was rating posts. He told Nutella.

I was calling out disgusting scummy behavior.

LC called Tony out for voting for Glor when everybody has him as town.

Kyle and Dunya presented actual cases.

Two cursed players weighed in on everybody else.

I don't mean to be rude but...did you not catch any of that?

Some of it. Didn't pay much attention to every posts cause I thought it was just shit post, to be fair I wanted out until glorflindel came along.

[Quin]

I'm not overly concerned with lapluie not understanding what was going on yesterday. To my knowledge this is her first experience with insanifiers. I'm not surprised that she'd fluster when half the thread showed up speaking in tongues, regardless of her alignment.

[lapluie]

[mention]Made[/mention] you coming back to participate anytime soon?

[Quin]

This was my favorite day phase ever.

If I ever host my "everyone is insane" heist, this day phase shows me that it's a feasible theme.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I'm not overly concerned with lapluie not understanding what was going on yesterday. To my knowledge this is her first experience with insanifiers. I'm not surprised that she'd fluster when half the thread showed up speaking in tongues, regardless of her alignment.

What I figured and why I didn’t target there. This could have been cleared up if less people were completely debilitated.

On Glor: I’m trusting the prevailing meta read on Glor being town, but I really don’t want to.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm not overly concerned with lapluie not understanding what was going on yesterday. To my knowledge this is her first experience with insanifiers. I'm not surprised that she'd fluster when half the thread showed up speaking in tongues, regardless of her alignment.

My point is most of us were not speaking in tongues.

Easy for baddies to hide behind "being confused."

I literally quoted her and told her saying she was confused and told her to pay more attention to what's going on around her. I quoted her asking why everyone was talking funny and told her it was because of the chaos realm. I quoted her talking about clues, said to trust me and then pointed out baddie behavior.

All of which received zero response, even though she made posts in between.

There's being confused and there's not trying. I don't see the townie motivation here.

[lapluie]

I was restricted to 1 word per post during Day 2.

why do you think that was?

I noticed you were trying to get him to talk on day 1 of the chaotic phase, I see now.

Sorry sorry, got mixed up with names. This was for [mention]Kylemii[/mention]

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don't think Wilgy, Eloh and Lapluie are all bad cause I'm not that good at mafia but if I was, I'd think they were all bad together.

[Quin]

I'm not overly concerned with lapluie not understanding what was going on yesterday. To my knowledge this is her first experience with insanifiers. I'm not surprised that she'd fluster when half the thread showed up speaking in tongues, regardless of her alignment.

My point is most of us were not speaking in tongues.

Easy for baddies to hide behind "being confused."

I literally quoted her and told her saying she was confused and told her to pay more attention to what's going on around her. I quoted her asking why everyone was talking funny and told her it was because of the chaos realm. I quoted her talking about clues, said to trust me and then pointed out baddie behavior.

All of which received zero response, even though she made posts in between.

There's being confused and there's not trying. I don't see the townie motivation here.

I think nutella and Eloh were the only two who were able to make a concise point yesterday. The top of the affliction scale, if you will. It was hard for me to see the point behind dunya's and speedchuck's lyrics and Jays quotes half the time.

Personally, I think we both have a skewed perspective as people who'd try and get something done regardless of the circumstances. If a new, novice player (I can count the games she's played on 1 hand) had that thrown at their face, do you think they'd be more likely to get scared off, or that they'd buckle down and get to business?

[lapluie]

I'm not overly concerned with lapluie not understanding what was going on yesterday. To my knowledge this is her first experience with insanifiers. I'm not surprised that she'd fluster when half the thread showed up speaking in tongues, regardless of her alignment.

My point is most of us were not speaking in tongues.

Easy for baddies to hide behind "being confused."

I literally quoted her and told her saying she was confused and told her to pay more attention to what's going on around her. I quoted her asking why everyone was talking funny and told her it was because of the chaos realm. I quoted her talking about clues, said to trust me and then pointed out baddie behavior.

All of which received zero response, even though she made posts in between.

There's being confused and there's not trying. I don't see the townie motivation here.

Like I said, I ignored most posts > took them as not any benefit posts were just redundant. that part was my bad, instead of freaking out assuming nobody cares of sloonei death, I should have payed more attention that is correct. you'd just be as conflictes as me if given this situation, not gonna doubt that, for sakes, I was ready to give up on the game. Anyways thanks for heads up if this ever happens again in future mafia games

[lapluie]

I don't think Wilgy, Eloh and Lapluie are all bad cause I'm not that good at mafia but if I was, I'd think they were all bad together.

lol ok thanks..

[lapluie]

I've already said what I had to say, no further investigating it seriously, I'll leave it at that if you still think im "bad", so be it.

[Quin]

I'm not overly concerned with lapluie not understanding what was going on yesterday. To my knowledge this is her first experience with insanifiers. I'm not surprised that she'd fluster when half the thread showed up speaking in tongues, regardless of her alignment.

My point is most of us were not speaking in tongues.

Easy for baddies to hide behind "being confused."

I literally quoted her and told her saying she was confused and told her to pay more attention to what's going on around her. I quoted her asking why everyone was talking funny and told her it was because of the chaos realm. I quoted her talking about clues, said to trust me and then pointed out baddie behavior.

All of which received zero response, even though she made posts in between.

There's being confused and there's not trying. I don't see the townie motivation here.

Like I said, I ignored most posts > took them as not any benefit posts were just redundant. that part was my bad, instead of freaking out assuming nobody cares of sloonei death, I should have payed more attention that is correct. you'd just be as conflictes as me if given this situation, not gonna doubt that, for sakes, I was ready to give up on the game. Anyways thanks for heads up if this ever happens again in future mafia games

This mass insanification thing probably won't happen again. Except for the game I just reserved. Insanifications usually only affect one player a night so they're more manageable.

What do you think about Elohcin and Wilgy? What's your read on Jack?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm not overly concerned with lapluie not understanding what was going on yesterday. To my knowledge this is her first experience with insanifiers. I'm not surprised that she'd fluster when half the thread showed up speaking in tongues, regardless of her alignment.

My point is most of us were not speaking in tongues.

Easy for baddies to hide behind "being confused."

I literally quoted her and told her saying she was confused and told her to pay more attention to what's going on around her. I quoted her asking why everyone was talking funny and told her it was because of the chaos realm. I quoted her talking about clues, said to trust me and then pointed out baddie behavior.

All of which received zero response, even though she made posts in between.

There's being confused and there's not trying. I don't see the townie motivation here.

I think nutella and Eloh were the only two who were able to make a concise point yesterday. The top of the affliction scale, if you will. It was hard for me to see the point behind dunya's and speedchuck's lyrics and Jays quotes half the time.

Personally, I think we both have a skewed perspective as people who'd try and get something done regardless of the circumstances. If a new, novice player (I can count the games she's played on 1 hand) had that thrown at their face, do you think they'd be more likely to get scared off, or that they'd buckle down and get to business?

I guess we'll find out.

Once upon a time, I was a neutral bounty hunter/masoner but I could only say "I am Groot" via BTSC. I targeted ColonialBob on Night 2 even though I was almost certain he wasn't my target because he's a smart chap and he was able to figure out like...40% of what I was trying to tell him by using just those words, including a rainbow list, evaluations of claims and my own win condition. Helped me and the town both win.

So maybe I have unrealistic expectations.

[Quin]

I'm not overly concerned with lapluie not understanding what was going on yesterday. To my knowledge this is her first experience with insanifiers. I'm not surprised that she'd fluster when half the thread showed up speaking in tongues, regardless of her alignment.

My point is most of us were not speaking in tongues.

Easy for baddies to hide behind "being confused."

I literally quoted her and told her saying she was confused and told her to pay more attention to what's going on around her. I quoted her asking why everyone was talking funny and told her it was because of the chaos realm. I quoted her talking about clues, said to trust me and then pointed out baddie behavior.

All of which received zero response, even though she made posts in between.

There's being confused and there's not trying. I don't see the townie motivation here.

I think nutella and Eloh were the only two who were able to make a concise point yesterday. The top of the affliction scale, if you will. It was hard for me to see the point behind dunya's and speedchuck's lyrics and Jays quotes half the time.

Personally, I think we both have a skewed perspective as people who'd try and get something done regardless of the circumstances. If a new, novice player (I can count the games she's played on 1 hand) had that thrown at their face, do you think they'd be more likely to get scared off, or that they'd buckle down and get to business?

I guess we'll find out.

Once upon a time, I was a neutral bounty hunter/masoner but I could only say "I am Groot" via BTSC. I targeted ColonialBob on Night 2 even though I was almost certain he wasn't my target because he's a smart chap and he was able to figure out like...40% of what I was trying to tell him by using just those words, including a rainbow list, evaluations of claims and my own win condition. Helped me and the town both win.

So maybe I have unrealistic expectations.

I don't think they're unrealistic. But I think they're rigid.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Once upon a time I was pretty okay at catching baddies.

[Quin]

Once upon a time I was pretty okay at catching baddies.

i'd love to know what that's like

[lapluie]

[mention]Quin[/mention] yeahhh n/a on Elohcin ( not sure what her role indicates) & DrWilgys responses were just emoticons..
Jack has a right to be suspicious of me but if he was in my shoes he'd understand, but I dont blame him for accusing me as bad, by all means go ahead. hoping that will change later in game though.

I wanna ask [mention]novaselinenever[/mention] if this mafia experience has been difficult to grasp given that he's also new. I'd imagine so.

[lapluie]

Want to know what [mention]Simon[/mention] n has to say according to his vote for also lynch killing sig? Pretty sure he posted one or two replies....

[Kylemii]

Kyle and Dunya presented actual cases.

oh my god I was worried no one actually knew what I was trying to say, it seemed like you were the only person to respond to any of them and all you said was "disgusting"