Mortal Kombat Mafia [ENDGAME]

[speedchuck]

I actually felt at some point today during my lunch break, and while eating an apple with cheese, that LC could be Kano.

That actually makes a lot of sense. LC is spreading his wings under the radar.

[nutella]

@dunya if nutella gets lynched tomorrow & is town, what should we do with you?

Why are you lynching nutella?

Why are you ignoring her question? She said "if" I got lynched, not that she's lynching me. She's voting for you. Answer the hypothetical.

[Kylemii]

@dunya i'm interested in hearing your read on dunya at this point in the game, do you have one yet? you're the only person to have played with a mafia dunya so i value your input here

Sloonei, MacDougall and JJJ have played with mafia dunya.

I'm actually the most interested in Jay's read specifically, Sloonei and Mac could definitely provide input but Jay's read has the added benefit of helping me read him.

Your best bet into sussing me out on here is looking into my independent game in the burglary I guess. Though that game pace is a pretty lousy comparison to full blown mafia games. If you're very interested, I can email you a PDF of the last scum game I played on RYM. It's 700+ pages long.

that's way too many pages lol. wasn't there a game recently where you replaced in as civ and ended up quickly having to deal with suspicion? Pirates? Or just a game you had to deal with suspicion in general?

[lapluie]

youre cool [mention]nutella[/mention]

[dunya]

@dunya i'm interested in hearing your read on dunya at this point in the game, do you have one yet? you're the only person to have played with a mafia dunya so i value your input here

Sloonei, MacDougall and JJJ have played with mafia dunya.

I'm actually the most interested in Jay's read specifically, Sloonei and Mac could definitely provide input but Jay's read has the added benefit of helping me read him.

Your best bet into sussing me out on here is looking into my independent game in the burglary I guess. Though that game pace is a pretty lousy comparison to full blown mafia games. If you're very interested, I can email you a PDF of the last scum game I played on RYM. It's 700+ pages long.

that's way too many pages lol. wasn't there a game recently where you replaced in as civ and ended up quickly having to deal with suspicion? Pirates? Or just a game you had to deal with suspicion in general?

Mountains? Seinfeld? Vocaroo? have your pick.

[rabbit8]

@dunya if nutella gets lynched tomorrow & is town, what should we do with you?

Why are you lynching nutella?

Why are you ignoring her question? She said "if" I got lynched, not that she's lynching me. She's voting for you. Answer the hypothetical.

Lol, very aggressive of you. This is new.
Did you finish collage? <-This could be in OT but if it has to do with this aggressive post I likes. ...

[dunya]

@dunya if nutella gets lynched tomorrow & is town, what should we do with you?

Why are you lynching nutella?

Why are you ignoring her question? She said "if" I got lynched, not that she's lynching me. She's voting for you. Answer the hypothetical.

And? What's the got to do with me exactly? We are over 24 hours away from deadline. I haven't decided on my final vote yet. Even if I do end up casing you and voting for you, are you implying I have the power to make the thread vote for whoever I want?

If we lynch TSP and he turns out town, what are we going to do with you lapluie?

You lynched sig, who flipped town, what are we going to do with you nutella?

I don't answer tunneled rhetorics that haven't happened yet or may not even happen, and don't have implications on people yet or even if they do happen, big fucking deal? I don't like people acting like they've never mislynched in a mafia game. If mislynches never happened, then what's the point of mafia and scum hunting? It's why I got suspicious of Quin and speed initially, that holier than thou attitude is obnoxious sorry not sorry.

[dunya]

I actually felt at some point today during my lunch break, and while eating an apple with cheese, that LC could be Kano.

That actually makes a lot of sense. LC is spreading his wings under the radar.

I do my best thinking while consuming cheese and apples.

[dunya]

I want to know why nutella is so flustered with 1 vote on her, by me, someone she admittedly town reads.

[dunya]

I want to know why nutella is so flustered with 1 vote on her, by me, someone she admittedly town reads.

....with over 24 hours left in this day phase.

[rabbit8]

I actually felt at some point today during my lunch break, and while eating an apple with cheese, that LC could be Kano.

That actually makes a lot of sense. LC is spreading his wings under the radar.

I do my best thinking while consuming cheese and apples.

Your midichlorian count?

[nutella]

[mention]rabbit8[/mention] it's been almost 2 years since I graduated haha

I want to know why nutella is so flustered with 1 vote on her, by me, someone she admittedly town reads.

?? where was I flustered

[lapluie]

I'm lynching you now hunni, not tony right now that is. What's gonna happen? I'll tell you
You'll die as mafia & I would have some sweet victory, if that's not the case, oops. ( which I'm fairly confident in)

You mislynched two players so if I lead town now & we lynch you I think we'll have a successful kill.

IF hypothetically speaking im wrong, & they decide to kill me is unfair since you've been having wrong reads on the last two kills, anyways im putting that out there.


That's all I got [mention]dunya[/mention]

[dunya]

rabbit8 it's been almost 2 years since I graduated haha

I want to know why nutella is so flustered with 1 vote on her, by me, someone she admittedly town reads.

?? where was I flustered

I want to know why nutella is so flustered with 1 vote on her, by me, someone she admittedly town reads.

....with over 24 hours left in this day phase.

...all focus on that one vote or defending herself from mild accusations re: meta and not scum hunting.

You've been around, I've seen you "online". All you can comment on is dunya's case of you, dunya's vote on you, dunya's answer to lap's hypothetical about you. When did you become so narcissistic?

[Jackofhearts2005]

@dunya if nutella gets lynched tomorrow & is town, what should we do with you?

"Disgusting."

What do you expect a townie or scum player to do with this?

[dunya]

I'm lynching you now hunni, not tony right now that is. What's gonna happen? I'll tell you
You'll die as mafia & I would have some sweet victory, if that's not the case, oops. ( which I'm fairly confident in)

You mislynched two players so if I lead town now & we lynch you I think we'll have a successful kill.

IF hypothetically speaking im wrong, & they decide to kill me is unfair since you've been having wrong reads on the last two kills, anyways im putting that out there.


That's all I got dunya

Two players, huh? Mind refreshing my memory on who the second is?

Someone's not been paying attention

[Marmot]

Oh, we've got until tomorrow to lynch someone (not tonight).

I'll be back on later then.

[lapluie]

@dunya if nutella gets lynched tomorrow & is town, what should we do with you?

"Disgusting."

What do you expect a townie or scum player to do with this?

Don't @ me pal

[nutella]

my question is why dunya got so flustered when I just asked her to answer someone's question instead of sidestepping it. I don't even agree with lapluie or know what she wanted to get from that question, but I felt the need to call dunya out for deliberately and flippantly misinterpreting it.

linki: what? I've been responding to rabbit as well and talking about my own suspicions. You're the one who thinks I'm only talking about you

[dunya]

my question is why dunya got so flustered when I just asked her to answer someone's question instead of sidestepping it. I don't even agree with lapluie or know what she wanted to get from that question, but I felt the need to call dunya out for deliberately and flippantly misinterpreting it.

linki: what? I've been responding to rabbit as well and talking about my own suspicions. You're the one who thinks I'm only talking about you

How did I misinterpret it? I didn't misinterpret it. I think I know what a hypothetical situation is. How do you know my motives for questioning lap without answering her? Why were you so eager for the answer on a nowhere question?

[rabbit8]

Dunya subed day 2....

2 years ago nutella, .yeah I think I remembered you talking about classes last time I played.

[nutella]

my question is why dunya got so flustered when I just asked her to answer someone's question instead of sidestepping it. I don't even agree with lapluie or know what she wanted to get from that question, but I felt the need to call dunya out for deliberately and flippantly misinterpreting it.

linki: what? I've been responding to rabbit as well and talking about my own suspicions. You're the one who thinks I'm only talking about you

How did I misinterpret it? I didn't misinterpret it. I think I know what a hypothetical situation is. How do you know my motives for questioning lap without answering her? Why were you so eager for the answer on a nowhere question?

Instead of answering her question you shot back with a nonsensical question based on a false premise. Why?

[dunya]

linki: what? I've been responding to rabbit as well and talking about my own suspicions. You're the one who thinks I'm only talking about you

you've been responding to prods from rabbit, but your last 5-6 posts have all been selfdefence or dunya pokes because you don't like that dunya has a vote on you.

[dunya]

my question is why dunya got so flustered when I just asked her to answer someone's question instead of sidestepping it. I don't even agree with lapluie or know what she wanted to get from that question, but I felt the need to call dunya out for deliberately and flippantly misinterpreting it.

linki: what? I've been responding to rabbit as well and talking about my own suspicions. You're the one who thinks I'm only talking about you

How did I misinterpret it? I didn't misinterpret it. I think I know what a hypothetical situation is. How do you know my motives for questioning lap without answering her? Why were you so eager for the answer on a nowhere question?

Instead of answering her question you shot back with a nonsensical question based on a false premise. Why?

lmao.

I'll leave the hypocrisy in the statement and question to speak for themselves.

[nutella]

Fine. You still haven't made an actual case on me. It's like you waited for me to defend against nothing so you could call me suspicious for asking why you suspect me. You're full of shit.

I guess I'll go back to hunting scum though. I'll work on an updated rainbow.

[nutella]

my question is why dunya got so flustered when I just asked her to answer someone's question instead of sidestepping it. I don't even agree with lapluie or know what she wanted to get from that question, but I felt the need to call dunya out for deliberately and flippantly misinterpreting it.

linki: what? I've been responding to rabbit as well and talking about my own suspicions. You're the one who thinks I'm only talking about you

How did I misinterpret it? I didn't misinterpret it. I think I know what a hypothetical situation is. How do you know my motives for questioning lap without answering her? Why were you so eager for the answer on a nowhere question?

Instead of answering her question you shot back with a nonsensical question based on a false premise. Why?

lmao.

I'll leave the hypocrisy in the statement and question to speak for themselves.

OK, you could argue that my post here is hypocritical in that I shoot a question back at you instead of directly answering your prods, but the highlighted portion is not true in my case.

[speedchuck]

my question is why dunya got so flustered when I just asked her to answer someone's question instead of sidestepping it. I don't even agree with lapluie or know what she wanted to get from that question, but I felt the need to call dunya out for deliberately and flippantly misinterpreting it.

linki: what? I've been responding to rabbit as well and talking about my own suspicions. You're the one who thinks I'm only talking about you

How did I misinterpret it? I didn't misinterpret it. I think I know what a hypothetical situation is. How do you know my motives for questioning lap without answering her? Why were you so eager for the answer on a nowhere question?

Oh no, not one of these...

[dunya]

my question is why dunya got so flustered when I just asked her to answer someone's question instead of sidestepping it. I don't even agree with lapluie or know what she wanted to get from that question, but I felt the need to call dunya out for deliberately and flippantly misinterpreting it.

linki: what? I've been responding to rabbit as well and talking about my own suspicions. You're the one who thinks I'm only talking about you

How did I misinterpret it? I didn't misinterpret it. I think I know what a hypothetical situation is. How do you know my motives for questioning lap without answering her? Why were you so eager for the answer on a nowhere question?

Instead of answering her question you shot back with a nonsensical question based on a false premise. Why?

lmao.

I'll leave the hypocrisy in the statement and question to speak for themselves.

OK, you could argue that my post here is hypocritical in that I shoot a question back at you instead of directly answering your prods, but the highlighted portion is not true in my case.

The highlighted portion is exactly what lap threw my way. I responded accordingly.

Why are you so curious?

[dunya]

I guess I'll go back to hunting scum though. I'll work on an updated rainbow.

[dunya]

I still want lapluie to tell me more about this second player I mysteriously killed without realizing I did it though. Like, who it was.

[rabbit8]

I guess I'll go back to hunting scum though. I'll work on an updated rainbow.

That is curious phrasing after all this, Nutella.

[sig]

That could be possible Dunya, either way I'd be fine with lynching him the third parties this game are still dangerous to the civs. Also I find it amusing all the people who voted for me are trying to lynch other people based off the fact they voted for me.

[speedchuck]

I still want lapluie to tell me more about this second player I mysteriously killed without realizing I did it though. Like, who it was.

It was me!

...

I got better.

[DrWilgy]

Hi Sig.

Sorry your dead. I still think your cute tho.

[nutella]

Glorfindel
lapluie
JaggedJimmyJay
rabbit8
Kylemii
Jackofhearts2005
Dom
dunya
Dave
Elohcin
Quin
Long Con
TonyStarkPrime
speedchuck
novaselinenever
Made
Simon
Marmot
DrWilgy

Ugh. This all feels more arbitrary than my D1 rainbow.

[DrWilgy]

Y tho Hazelnut ;__;

[JaggedJimmyJay]

dunya i'm interested in hearing your read on dunya at this point in the game, do you have one yet? you're the only person to have played with a mafia dunya so i value your input here

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@JaggedJimmyJay i'm interested in hearing your read on dunya at this point in the game, do you have one yet? you're the only person to have played with a mafia dunya so i value your input here

I lean in the civilian direction. The reason some have cited as a point of suspicion for her (instigating the sig bandwagon) is a point I consider to have the opposite effect. Given the circumstances of Day 2 and the wide spread of votes in the tally before she provided that case, there had to be easier ways to generate a mislynch. If there's no immediate need for a huge fake sig case, then I don't think mafia dunya is as likely to bring it into existence. It's more likely that she did that because she believed in it.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If I judge Simon's posts at face value, his only read is an assertion that BWT is bad (at a time when that player slot had no posts and there was no reason to assume BWT had even visited the website yet). That's not great.

[dunya]

If I judge Simon's posts at face value, his only read is an assertion that BWT is bad (at a time when that player slot had no posts and there was no reason to assume BWT had even visited the website yet). That's not great.

Would a scum team coach Scum Simon on who to vote for BTS?

[DrWilgy]

Depends on the scum team.

I wouldn't.

[Kylemii]

dunya i'm interested in hearing your read on dunya at this point in the game, do you have one yet? you're the only person to have played with a mafia dunya so i value your input here

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@JaggedJimmyJay i'm interested in hearing your read on dunya at this point in the game, do you have one yet? you're the only person to have played with a mafia dunya so i value your input here

I lean in the civilian direction. The reason some have cited as a point of suspicion for her (instigating the sig bandwagon) is a point I consider to have the opposite effect. Given the circumstances of Day 2 and the wide spread of votes in the tally before she provided that case, there had to be easier ways to generate a mislynch. If there's no immediate need for a huge fake sig case, then I don't think mafia dunya is as likely to bring it into existence. It's more likely that she did that because she believed in it.

Thank you. Follow up question: Does the general tone of dunya's recent defenses effect your read on her in either direction?

[Quin]

I lied, I'm going to talk about this.

dunya is bad. I keep hearing about my strong opposition to the sig lynch and "I knew it" posts, but they don't exist.

Spoiler: show

*votes Sig*

Can you get me through these changes?

Bear witness as I exercise my exorcism
The evil that lurks within the sin, the terrorism

If we assume LC is being honest and not just trying to lay low, then this actually makes me think he's town. I don't think scum LC would be so lackluster and so obvious about it, especially if he hasn't been mafia in awhile and had a big civ game and then rolled civ again. So I don't think we should lynch him today.

Some other quick notes Nutella is looking good right now, LC I'd say leans good, Mac is posting as he always does as both a civ and mafia member so I can't really tell yet, 3J and Sloonie have alot of posts which is a pain, but minus Sloonie's Wilgy's comment he seems okay same with 3J. Though I don't quite see the case on Jack yet.

He's missing the opportunistic nature that scum LC usually has, where he's active, tries to lead lynches, and is a mega poster. He could be trying another strategy as scum true, but I doubt that.

I agree. Ok, I'll change my vote. Sorry Mac.

This is pingy.

But only a real thug can stab someone 'til they die
Standing in front of them, staring straight into their eyes

What does this mean to you?

Nothing really besides the fact that y'all jumped the gun and started serious posting way to soon. Maybe I'll be able to glean some information later down the road, but for now nothing.

Why is that strange? What does strange mean?

She isn't playing the game, I don't usually jump on funny/joke posts since I do them so often, but the way he said it was strange. Also I'd say strange is like somewhere between suspicious and null, like I should look into it more since it pinged me, but I probably won't.

I suspect sig. He gave a bunch of town reads including a dubious pass for Long Con, and the only suspicion he didn't in some way retract was "speedchuck saying he'd vote dunya is strange" -- the weakest of sauce. He was vaguely critical of Kyle and Sloonei, but didn't stick to either.

I don't have many reads to give honestly nobody looks that bad to me yet I've had some minor pings, but nothing more. I feel like I'd get good information out of the few big post arguments, but that's alot of work.

I think if I hear that fuckin' word again I'mma scream
While I'm projectile vomiting, what do I look like, a comedian to you?
Do you think that I'm kidding? What do I look like some kind of idi-
Wait a minute, shit, don't answer that - why am I so misunderstood?
Why do I go through so much bullshit, it's such bullshit, it's tush mull bisch
Woe is me

Deep Fried Oyster - $3.00

Quin's reaction to my case - a $3 rating which is pretty low, considering he gave me $20+ for replacing in, which is the high end of the spectrum.

he only made 3 or 4 more posts after that, the other sig related was a quote to his iso and a $9.90 rating, see below:

Spoiler: show

sig

Special Fried Rice - $9.90

in terms of what was posted in that crazy phase, I'd say this was Quin basically shutting down the sig lynch to the best of his ability.

Quin's post sig flip posts:

Spoiler: show

Let me beat some sense into sig!

sig has been lynched.

Spoiler: show

He was Kabal.

The Shadows of Outworld have passed.

Spoiler: show

MacDougall was Scorpion.

It is now Night 2. You have 23 hours to submit your PMs.

Spoiler: show

Oh, and please speak normally now.

Sorry sig, but I found it really suspicious how you were online after I flung shit your way and you ignored to comment. If I was hesitant before, your lack of defence made me feel more confident.

Quin looks bad out of this. His assertion that sig was town and how he wasn't even wishy washy rubs me the wrong way.

I lost interest in your sig case as soon as you picked up his calling LC pingy. That's not a contradiction, it's a progression of read.

I don't like how sig managed to become a runaway wagon at the 11th hour when 90 percent of the thread couldn't even talk about it properly.

Naturally I'll be looking into related posts kthx

Sorry sig, but I found it really suspicious how you were online after I flung shit your way and you ignored to comment. If I was hesitant before, your lack of defence made me feel more confident.

Quin looks bad out of this. His assertion that sig was town and how he wasn't even wishy washy rubs me the wrong way.

I lost interest in your sig case as soon as you picked up his calling LC pingy. That's not a contradiction, it's a progression of read.

It was not a progression, it was alone, no follow up, thrown in there and nothing to substantiate it or develop the "ping"

Have you played with him much? This sort of thing isn't unnatural for him to do imo.

I don't like how sig managed to become a runaway wagon at the 11th hour when 90 percent of the thread couldn't even talk about it properly.

Because lynching birdwithteeth11 0 posts would have been likeable

It'd be better than lynching someone who showed up.

I won't link to his comments during Night 2 (now).

I'll let everyone else be the judge of whether or not Quin basically implied as best as he could he wouldn't hop on the sig bandwagon given our difficult posting restrictions (for a stance, a reason) and how post sig reveal he immediately excused himself and gave a reason to why he didn't hop on board. It felt too calculated to me and unnatural, sorry.

1. I was disagreeing with your case. You knew that was happening. You told someone else that was what I was doing.
2. I told you I didn't like the case. But 9.90 isn't "shutting down the case". My read on sig was neutral. was comparing my read on sig to my read on lapluie.
3. I told you why I didn't hop on board because you accused me right out of the gate.

Would lunch with $3.00 plain ice cream.

1. How the hell did I know you were only disagreeing with the ~case~ and not disagreeing with the fact I thought sig was scum?
2. You said you told me "I didn't like the case". Where? Where did you say that? I didn't know you were comparing your read on sig to read on lapluie tbf. I thought you thought lapluie was scum.
3. I do that often when there's a bandwagon and people who refuse to join so early in the game. The strong stances always ping me, you can go through my past games and see a few times where I've done that. It's a natural thought sequence for me, and has netted me a few scum in the past. I have no intention of changing it.

Because I, as you observed, only made 2 posts on the topic. If I was "strongly opposed" to the lynch I'd have said more. And I told you I didn't like the case when you accused me at EoD. I was comparing my reads of sig and lapluie in one post. The post you included in this ISO and then chopped to suit your agenda.

The third point is nothing. I'd still like to know where my "I told you so" posts are.

[Quin]

@Quin - see below. Look what speedchuck does immediately after the flip. Does this make him bad?

The Sig lynch was bad.
Dunya is bad for starting it.

1. Sig is always wishy-washy
2. Waffley behavior is a textbook EZ suspicion to put on mislynches, when it can really go both ways. Town can be genuinely uncertain as easily as mafia can be nervous
3. Sig couldn't defend easily, and this is a mostly brand-new suspicion. That's the reason I'd rather have gone with a D1 case. Now we're back to square one.
4. Sig's lynch gained momentum too easily. If half the scumteam wasn't on it, I will eat a Kansas CD.

Dunya replaced in, and her first action was to go through the thread, pick the easiest mislynch possible, and drive it home while Sig couldn't defend himself and no better cases could be made. Screw that.

No. If you think there's a comparison between yourself and speedchuck to be made, there isn't. I'm not suspicious of you for your immediate accusation.

[dunya]

I wont respond to you now Quin. If I have to case you in the future, I will. But the discussion has evolved well and beyond that for me and if I reply we'll be going around in circles at this point and that's not fun. And I've been having a ton of fun so far in this game.

Feel free to keep your vote on me though

[MacDougall]

Speedchuck is scum

[DrWilgy]

Speedchuck is scum

I support you.

[Quin]

Somebody research the "bad replacements first" theory.

Between Street Fighter, Pirates and Miuntsins we ought to have a fair dataset.

I feel like this line of thinking could just just go away if hosts let replacements choose which player to replace without any information. Or else make a stance that all replacements will be randomised.

[Quin]

I wont respond to you now Quin. If I have to case you in the future, I will. But the discussion has evolved well and beyond that for me and if I reply we'll be going around in circles at this point and that's not fun. And I've been having a ton of fun so far in this game.

Feel free to keep your vote on me though

I will.

[Kylemii]

mmmmmmm tell me about speedchuck

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Thank you. Follow up question: Does the general tone of dunya's recent defenses effect your read on her in either direction?

I think her defenses specifically against the crap she's gotten re: siglynch recalls her handling of suspicion as George Costanza. The sock was George and is now Alpha (oh hey Kyle), but it's her. The relevant material is focused on pages 2 and 3 of her Seinfeld ISO.