Buffy the Vampire Slayer: At the Hellmouth (End Game)

[S~V~S]

I liked this reply.

Other than Mac, who you say you voted for for the reaction, do you have any suspicions?

[DFaraday]

Sig, you got spiky hair?

Spike doesn't have spiky hair. You may be thinking of Angel. His hair goes straight up and he's bloody stupid.

Anyway, I responded to Illy's name on the list because I was on a team with her in my very first Mafia game ever. I didn't look at the signup thread again after voting.

SVS and Sig are my only townreads so far, SVS because I think she's making some good efforts at scumhunting, and Sig because his throwing a bunch of questions and theories out there is vintage Sig.

[DrWilgy]

Potassium nitrate is one of gods greatest gifts. Be sure to eat one tablespoon a day to stray from the path of the devil. Potassium nitrate also does wonders for the skin and digestion.

[timmer]

Sigs posts re Spike don't bother me too much as, if the basis for suspicion against him is that he's mafia and tying to cleverly flush outSpike, how would that work exactly?

I don't have a ton to go on at the moment and ill be busy today with snowboarding lessons for the little guy and the Super Bowl. I'll read back and ty too find something vote worthy

[timmer]

I think we should pick the worst locations first, so we can get them out of the way.

If anything pings me about Sigi its not the Spike thing but this instead.

If the assumption is that there was one poll choice per faction, I could see a mafia team being told this, and suddenly an idea like this becomes a lot less helpful and much more calculated.

What keeps it from being a full blown ping is the word locations. If the day post indeed had the characters go to a location thorn this post would have indicated true foreknowledge, but they literally watched Waynes World lol.

[Kylemii]

the idea that sig might have been signalling is worrisome... we should be looking out for signals and things. If the mafia finds spike then they gain a member, and also two spare kills..

sigs explanation made me feel better but I think we should still watch him close for changes in gameplay in the future.

[Tranq]

I wonder if the Night Post would hint at certain events happening, such as Spike turning bad or Faith and the Mayor teaming up. LC's posts usually mention things like this.

[sig]

the idea that sig might have been signalling is worrisome... we should be looking out for signals and things. If the mafia finds spike then they gain a member, and also two spare kills..

sigs explanation made me feel better but I think we should still watch him close for changes in gameplay in the future.

That's what I was saying in my first post.


I need to reread what other players said about the day 0 poll, I gave some civ points to Lorab for it and then I believe juliets and Tranq also started doing research. I think it's possible one is mafia trying to be helpful.

I'm also eyeing Rabbit and to a lesser extent Mac. Mac's response to my vote was very mute and he hasn't posted much yet which seems to go agaisnt his meta and rabbit role hunting me for my comments on Spike is troublesome.

If push comes to shove and we don't have any good info I could see lynching an inactive, I'd like to avoid this but, with so many indies the chance of getting a non civ is about 55/45.

[lapluie]

what lmao
I said the game was exciting wow

[S~V~S]

It was your timing tbh.

Any other thoughts?

[lapluie]

no not really

[S~V~S]

k

[juliets]

the idea that sig might have been signalling is worrisome... we should be looking out for signals and things. If the mafia finds spike then they gain a member, and also two spare kills..

sigs explanation made me feel better but I think we should still watch him close for changes in gameplay in the future.

That's what I was saying in my first post.


I need to reread what other players said about the day 0 poll, I gave some civ points to Lorab for it and then I believe juliets and Tranq also started doing research. I think it's possible one is mafia trying to be helpful.

I'm also eyeing Rabbit and to a lesser extent Mac. Mac's response to my vote was very mute and he hasn't posted much yet which seems to go agaisnt his meta and rabbit role hunting me for my comments on Spike is troublesome.

If push comes to shove and we don't have any good info I could see lynching an inactive, I'd like to avoid this but, with so many indies the chance of getting a non civ is about 55/45.

sig, could you explain why you see rabbit's thought that you could be spike signaling troublesome? I can understand you might not like it but I think it was a valid theory at the time it was raised.

Lapluie, could you tell me some games you have played on this site other than the one that is now in progress?

[Ambray]

Sig, you got spiky hair?

Spike doesn't have spiky hair. You may be thinking of Angel. His hair goes straight up and he's bloody stupid.

While I admit that as I've gotten older Spike appeals to me more than Angel, but hot DAMN boy. How dare you say this.

I don't think Sig's posts are suspect at all. Think you'd have to be pretty brazen to be that obvious.....which I guess happens, but I don't feel it's the case here. I like his responses.

[Ambray]

I think we should pick the worst locations first, so we can get them out of the way.

If anything pings me about Sigi its not the Spike thing but this instead.

If the assumption is that there was one poll choice per faction, I could see a mafia team being told this, and suddenly an idea like this becomes a lot less helpful and much more calculated.

What keeps it from being a full blown ping is the word locations. If the day post indeed had the characters go to a location thorn this post would have indicated true foreknowledge, but they literally watched Waynes World lol.

Tbh, I glossed over this on first read because I didn't actually understand what he meant by picking the worst 'locations' and getting them 'out of the way'

Am I being dense?

[Ambray]

I think we should pick the worst locations first, so we can get them out of the way.

If anything pings me about Sigi its not the Spike thing but this instead.

If the assumption is that there was one poll choice per faction, I could see a mafia team being told this, and suddenly an idea like this becomes a lot less helpful and much more calculated.

What keeps it from being a full blown ping is the word locations. If the day post indeed had the characters go to a location thorn this post would have indicated true foreknowledge, but they literally watched Waynes World lol.

Tbh, I glossed over this on first read because I didn't actually understand what he meant by picking the worst 'locations' and getting them 'out of the way'

Am I being dense?

[Ambray]

So dense it had to be asked twice.

[Tranq]

sig thinks the poll options will keep returning until all of them have been voted out. I don't know why he thinks that, but i guess we'll find out if he's right about that soon enough.

[Ambray]

sig thinks the poll options will keep returning until all of them have been voted out. I don't know why he thinks that, but i guess we'll find out if he's right about that soon enough.

As in he thinks that whichever one had the most votes would be removed from the next poll until 1 is left and that's the winner?

Odd thought.

Has that happened before? I can't remember ever playing a game where it did and if he hasn't either it's a strange assumption to make.

[Tranq]

That's what i gathered from his post. Odd thought indeed, but not something i'd give him a vote for.

I think we should pick the worst locations first, so we can get them out of the way.

You think these locations will continue to appear in other polls?

Yes

[juliets]

sig thinks the poll options will keep returning until all of them have been voted out. I don't know why he thinks that, but i guess we'll find out if he's right about that soon enough.

As in he thinks that whichever one had the most votes would be removed from the next poll until 1 is left and that's the winner?

Odd thought.

Has that happened before? I can't remember ever playing a game where it did and if he hasn't either it's a strange assumption to make.

Yes it has happened before. The host posts locations and the game goes to the number one voted location and then that location gets removed from the poll.

[Tranq]

The lynch poll ends at 5am my time. As for my vote, i'm considering players that didn't vote in the night poll:

DFaraday
DrWilgy
Illyria
Jackofhearts2005

Or rabbit

[Ambray]

sig thinks the poll options will keep returning until all of them have been voted out. I don't know why he thinks that, but i guess we'll find out if he's right about that soon enough.

As in he thinks that whichever one had the most votes would be removed from the next poll until 1 is left and that's the winner?

Odd thought.

Has that happened before? I can't remember ever playing a game where it did and if he hasn't either it's a strange assumption to make.

Yes it has happened before. The host posts locations and the game goes to the number one voted location and then that location gets removed from the poll.

Ok, not a wacky suggestion to make then.

[Tranq]

Does that happen alot these days? I think i've only seen it once in the last Recruitment game.

[juliets]

Does that happen alot these days? I think i've only seen it once in the last Recruitment game.

I wouldn't say a lot but I have definitely seen it since the last recruitment game. More than once I'm sure. Maybe I will get a chance to look through some of the recent games. It's done enough that I knew what he was talking about. My only question was where he got the idea that those movies represented locations.

[nutella]

I think he may have carried over the idea of locations from the Mortal Kombat game, but that was just one poll and the number of votes each location got determined the order in which the locations were visited. Which is not quite the same idea he was implying. So... idk.

[nutella]

@SVS- as for the DF thing I was just noting that I had an initial reaction to his post and stream-of-consciousnessed myself out of thinking it meant anything. I now believe his sentiment was genuine. And the google thing was... something else. Not really a suspicion. Don't worry about it.

[S~V~S]

@SVS- as for the DF thing I was just noting that I had an initial reaction to his post and stream-of-consciousnessed myself out of thinking it meant anything. I now believe his sentiment was genuine. And the google thing was... something else. Not really a suspicion. Don't worry about it.

Yeah, like I said I mostly talked myself out of it while I was writing the post. Especially after I reread the HCR Crossover day one.

As of right now, I am pretty OK with my vote where it is.

@lapluie, are you new to Mafia, or just to us?

I am having a few people over tonight, but it will be a mellow group gripping phones, so I should still be around.

[lapluie]

the idea that sig might have been signalling is worrisome... we should be looking out for signals and things. If the mafia finds spike then they gain a member, and also two spare kills..

sigs explanation made me feel better but I think we should still watch him close for changes in gameplay in the future.

That's what I was saying in my first post.


I need to reread what other players said about the day 0 poll, I gave some civ points to Lorab for it and then I believe juliets and Tranq also started doing research. I think it's possible one is mafia trying to be helpful.

I'm also eyeing Rabbit and to a lesser extent Mac. Mac's response to my vote was very mute and he hasn't posted much yet which seems to go agaisnt his meta and rabbit role hunting me for my comments on Spike is troublesome.

If push comes to shove and we don't have any good info I could see lynching an inactive, I'd like to avoid this but, with so many indies the chance of getting a non civ is about 55/45.

sig, could you explain why you see rabbit's thought that you could be spike signaling troublesome? I can understand you might not like it but I think it was a valid theory at the time it was raised.

Lapluie, could you tell me some games you have played on this site other than the one that is now in progress?

Mortal kombat & this on are my only two games I've played on this site so far .

[lapluie]

@SVS- as for the DF thing I was just noting that I had an initial reaction to his post and stream-of-consciousnessed myself out of thinking it meant anything. I now believe his sentiment was genuine. And the google thing was... something else. Not really a suspicion. Don't worry about it.

Yeah, like I said I mostly talked myself out of it while I was writing the post. Especially after I reread the HCR Crossover day one.

As of right now, I am pretty OK with my vote where it is.

@lapluie, are you new to Mafia, or just to us?

I am having a few people over tonight, but it will be a mellow group gripping phones, so I should still be around.

I'm not new to mafia in general have been playing it irl for years & other forums with two other syndicate members, my first syndicate game was the mortal kombat one & now this.
I don't know many of you, I'm familiar with a few whom are participating in this game that have been in mortal kombat aswell.

so hii all new faces

[lapluie]

Also signed up for the owl express? But guess I was late & didn't participate at all. my fault

[S~V~S]

So any thoughts yet on this game?

[LoRab]

Lorab, just to clarify, are you saying you see a chance sig could be bad and was trying to get us to want to kill Spike or are you saying something else? It seems like if he is mafia he would want Spike alive. I agree that his not explaining what he actually mean when asked doesn't look good, I'm just a little unclear about the first part. I have the same question re: why a vote for Mac.

More that he has more information about Spike than the rest of us. And, by only mentioning Spike, it just felt weird.

The third thing was Lapluie. Her most recent post,

well isn't this quite exciting

Was the only on topic post I recalled her making, and it was rather vague. I went back to look at her other posts and was pretty surprised to find her as one of the higher posters at this stage. Yesterday was her birthday apparently (Happy Belated so BOTD there, but curious why she finds sig making an unexplained vote on a fairly volatile person the only on topic thing she finds worth mentioning. Fanning the flames, perhaps?

So I am going to throw a pressure vote on LaPluie for now. I will be in and out pretty much all day.

That post pinged me, too.

I wanted to see how Mac reacted to a vote, honestly it wasn't as fun as I thought it would be.

I was talking about the Indies/Glory as a whole the only reason Spike stuck out was because he could be flipped to mafia. I'm guessing that if he can be recruited to the mafia team he could also be recruited to the civs it even mentions his love for Buffy.

I see no reason to suspect me for anything, if I'm mafia as some are guessing why would I be advertising for spike? The mafia are the ones who search for him not the other way around. I'm just saying he could be a bigger threat then the other independents since we know for a fact he's a traitor role who has two kills. Now I'm not advocating indy hunting, just pointing out the roles aren't inherently prove civ.

Drusilla - Her dreams will tell her the role of one player of her choosing each night. If she finds Spike, he will join their team.

Spike - He has two anytime kills. He has a modification chip and can’t kill any humans. If he targets a human his kill will fail. His love for Buffy is undying… *secrets* =

Someone mentioned the mayor, I don't think he can become a civ due to this wording.

Faith Lehane - Faith will find out who one player is targeting each night. If Faith tracks the Mayor, she will join him in his Win Condition. *secrets*

This implies Faith will stop being a civ and become an independent with the mayor.

This actually makes sense to me. In all honesty, I missed that the vampires could recruit Spike. But still, I'm not sure why single him out, of all the indies. As you say here, the Mayor can take a civ away from the civ numbers. In all fairness, I'm going on show knowledge--but I'm guessing the Mayor is more dangerous than Spike.

I still have an eyeball on you, but I'm less suspicious of you than I was last night.

[juliets]

The lynch poll ends at 5am my time. As for my vote, i'm considering players that didn't vote in the night poll:

DFaraday
DrWilgy
Illyria
Jackofhearts2005

Or rabbit

I'm slowly ruling people out for one reason or another for a vote and may consider voting along the lines Trans set up here. If the Day 0 poll really was alignment indicative then these people were able to avoid going on record. That said I won't vote for rabbit or Illyria because they are both back from a long absence and I want to give them a chance to play. I'm still looking for other options though so I'm keeping my mind open. Game starts in less than 2 hours.

Linki: thanks Lorab I understand what you were saying now.

[lapluie]

What about having excitements in a great themed game is suspicious

[speedchuck]

I don't have time to catch up in this game tonight.

[mention]Ambray[/mention], where should I vote?

[speedchuck]

I think he may have carried over the idea of locations from the Mortal Kombat game, but that was just one poll and the number of votes each location got determined the order in which the locations were visited. Which is not quite the same idea he was implying. So... idk.

I think it was a reference. A half-joke, since someone said the exact same thing in that game. But IDK if he was even in that game, so

[lapluie]

So any thoughts yet on this game?

no not really.
do I have to vote? because nobody right now is giving any reasons to vote for them tbh

[DFaraday]

Sig, you got spiky hair?

Spike doesn't have spiky hair. You may be thinking of Angel. His hair goes straight up and he's bloody stupid.

While I admit that as I've gotten older Spike appeals to me more than Angel, but hot DAMN boy. How dare you say this.

I mean, Buffybot said it, and she was programmed by Spike, so it sounds like your real issue here is with him.

[DFaraday]

So far I've got moderate town reads on SVS and Sig, and I'm neutral on Lorab, Nutella, and Timmer. I can't really recall content from anyone else offhand, which is worrisome. I may vote a no-poster if it comes to it.

[DFaraday]

I don't have time to catch up in this game tonight.

@Ambray, where should I vote?

Why are you asking Ambray specifically?

[juliets]

[mention]Long Con[/mention] and [mention]Black Rock[/mention] are you guys going to turn the list of names into links to people's posts? It's really helpful. Also, are you going to have a polls thread?

[sig]

Does that happen alot these days? I think i've only seen it once in the last Recruitment game.

I wouldn't say a lot but I have definitely seen it since the last recruitment game. More than once I'm sure. Maybe I will get a chance to look through some of the recent games. It's done enough that I knew what he was talking about. My only question was where he got the idea that those movies represented locations.

I've been in a few games besides just Mortal kombat where we vote on locations every night. The ones that pop up to me immediately would be Star Wars and the Batman game, both of which took place awhile ago. I was assuming we'd visit now I guess it would be watch each area. This was just me guessing though.

I don't like going after inactive/no shows but I'm currently at a loss and I feel like we won't have much activity with the Super Bowl going on tonight so I'll need to put some more thought into who to vote for.

[sig]

the idea that sig might have been signalling is worrisome... we should be looking out for signals and things. If the mafia finds spike then they gain a member, and also two spare kills..

sigs explanation made me feel better but I think we should still watch him close for changes in gameplay in the future.

That's what I was saying in my first post.


I need to reread what other players said about the day 0 poll, I gave some civ points to Lorab for it and then I believe juliets and Tranq also started doing research. I think it's possible one is mafia trying to be helpful.

I'm also eyeing Rabbit and to a lesser extent Mac. Mac's response to my vote was very mute and he hasn't posted much yet which seems to go agaisnt his meta and rabbit role hunting me for my comments on Spike is troublesome.

If push comes to shove and we don't have any good info I could see lynching an inactive, I'd like to avoid this but, with so many indies the chance of getting a non civ is about 55/45.

sig, could you explain why you see rabbit's thought that you could be spike signaling troublesome? I can understand you might not like it but I think it was a valid theory at the time it was raised.

Lapluie, could you tell me some games you have played on this site other than the one that is now in progress?

I'll keep in mind that it was a valid theory, but he was the first person to respond to my post and only mentioned the Spike portion. A part of me thinks the mafia would try to get in thread confirmation, however another part, which is why I'm hesitant on going after rabbit, would think the mafia would ignore it in thread.

[Long Con]

@Long Con and @Black Rock are you guys going to turn the list of names into links to people's posts? It's really helpful. Also, are you going to have a polls thread?

Yes, we will be turning the names into a list at some point, and there are Polls in the first post, in a spoiler tag.

[juliets]

@Long Con and @Black Rock are you guys going to turn the list of names into links to people's posts? It's really helpful. Also, are you going to have a polls thread?

Yes, we will be turning the names into a list at some point, and there are Polls in the first post, in a spoiler tag.

Oh thanks! I would have never found those polls lol!

[Kylemii]

I didn't realize this phase ended today. I've been mixing up this one and lotr in my head. :[ I think I need a review

[Illyria]

WHAT. Illy is here???

I am! I late and I am sorry. I forgot about this and I feel terrible. Okay, I think I am caught up now.

Also while I like the linkback feature (makes it impossible for people to evade questions and pretend they never saw then, yes?) I kind of hate it since I edit ALOT so not 100% sure I am gonna use it.

The what now??

Also, what does it mean that "The lynched will flip. The NK will not" I feel so out of practice right now. Also BOTD??

Sig, you got spiky hair?

Spike doesn't have spiky hair. You may be thinking of Angel. His hair goes straight up and he's bloody stupid.

Huh. One, he does a few times, and that quote made me LOL for real. I dont remember the Buffy Bot being a thing.. Let me check. Could be part of Spikes secret role tho. He is the one who gets her made?

This actually makes sense to me. In all honesty, I missed that the vampires could recruit Spike. But still, I'm not sure why single him out, of all the indies. As you say here, the Mayor can take a civ away from the civ numbers. In all fairness, I'm going on show knowledge--but I'm guessing the Mayor is more dangerous than Spike.

I still have an eyeball on you, but I'm less suspicious of you than I was last night.

Agreed on the Mayor, I am most concerned about Glory, but the Mayor is next on my list.

It is interesting. The Day post made me think of The Master, but he is not listed. The opening post mentioned the Hydra Monster thingie. We saw the multi headed beast in end of S1 with the Master and again in S3 with the Mayor. I dont know if this is helpful or not but those were my thoughts when I read it.

[Illyria]

Potassium nitrate is one of gods greatest gifts. Be sure to eat one tablespoon a day to stray from the path of the devil. Potassium nitrate also does wonders for the skin and digestion.

Also, what now> I don't remember playing with you, sorry. So, other people, is this normal behavior for DrW? Since no one commented on it, I am guessing yes but I want to be sure.

[nutella]

Yes Wilgy is a zany fellow. No clue what he's on about.


"Flip" means role reveal (in some games NKed players' roles are revealed, but this is more what you'd be used to in that just lynched roles are revealed). BOTD = benefit of the doubt