Buffy the Vampire Slayer: At the Hellmouth (End Game)

[MacDougall]

speedchuck
nutella
juliets
Kylemii
sig
Lapluie
MacDougall
novaselinenever
S~V~S
Ambray
Tranq
LoRab
Illyria

In rough order. My townreads, the top half of the list, are more certain than my scumreads.

Sorry sir but you made me the wrong colour.

"What color should I make you?"

Blue

This threw me for a long and wild loop fam

Haha how so?

[LoRab]

You are either wrong or lying. I'm going with the latter. Because it is clear at this point that you are bad.

[speedchuck]

speedchuck
nutella
juliets
Kylemii
sig
Lapluie
MacDougall
novaselinenever
S~V~S
Ambray
Tranq
LoRab
Illyria

In rough order. My townreads, the top half of the list, are more certain than my scumreads.

Sorry sir but you made me the wrong colour.

"What color should I make you?"

Blue

This threw me for a long and wild loop fam

Haha how so?

Independents

All Independents need to survive, and to have Glory dead to win.

Spike - He has two anytime kills. He has a modification chip and can’t kill any humans. If he targets a human his kill will fail. His love for Buffy is undying… *secrets*

Sweet - Switches two players each night, and may self-target.

Mayor Richard Wilkins III - The Mayor of Sunnydale, he has the ability to pardon one lynching. *secrets*

Adam - He is frighteningly tuned in to the world, and this level of awareness allows him to detect one role per night. Twice in the game, Adam can choose a player whose powers and votes will no longer be able to affect Adam.

Caleb - Caleb is a human who has been supernaturally endowed with power by the First Evil, whom he serves. Once each night, he can choose one of four abilities: cast a misinformation aura, causing all info roles to give false results; protect himself; give himself -5 votes in the following lynch; use the power of a dead player. Caleb must use each of these abilities across each four-night period.

[MacDougall]

I am not bad. You are very bad though. But keep trying to confuse us as is your prerogative.

[MacDougall]

speedchuck
nutella
juliets
Kylemii
sig
Lapluie
MacDougall
novaselinenever
S~V~S
Ambray
Tranq
LoRab
Illyria

In rough order. My townreads, the top half of the list, are more certain than my scumreads.

Sorry sir but you made me the wrong colour.

"What color should I make you?"

Blue

This threw me for a long and wild loop fam

Haha how so?

Independents

All Independents need to survive, and to have Glory dead to win.

Spike - He has two anytime kills. He has a modification chip and can’t kill any humans. If he targets a human his kill will fail. His love for Buffy is undying… *secrets*

Sweet - Switches two players each night, and may self-target.

Mayor Richard Wilkins III - The Mayor of Sunnydale, he has the ability to pardon one lynching. *secrets*

Adam - He is frighteningly tuned in to the world, and this level of awareness allows him to detect one role per night. Twice in the game, Adam can choose a player whose powers and votes will no longer be able to affect Adam.

Caleb - Caleb is a human who has been supernaturally endowed with power by the First Evil, whom he serves. Once each night, he can choose one of four abilities: cast a misinformation aura, causing all info roles to give false results; protect himself; give himself -5 votes in the following lynch; use the power of a dead player. Caleb must use each of these abilities across each four-night period.

What makes you so sure I am not in that list?

[speedchuck]

speedchuck
nutella
juliets
Kylemii
sig
Lapluie
MacDougall
novaselinenever
S~V~S
Ambray
Tranq
LoRab
Illyria

In rough order. My townreads, the top half of the list, are more certain than my scumreads.

Sorry sir but you made me the wrong colour.

"What color should I make you?"

Blue

This threw me for a long and wild loop fam

Haha how so?

Independents

All Independents need to survive, and to have Glory dead to win.

Spike - He has two anytime kills. He has a modification chip and can’t kill any humans. If he targets a human his kill will fail. His love for Buffy is undying… *secrets*

Sweet - Switches two players each night, and may self-target.

Mayor Richard Wilkins III - The Mayor of Sunnydale, he has the ability to pardon one lynching. *secrets*

Adam - He is frighteningly tuned in to the world, and this level of awareness allows him to detect one role per night. Twice in the game, Adam can choose a player whose powers and votes will no longer be able to affect Adam.

Caleb - Caleb is a human who has been supernaturally endowed with power by the First Evil, whom he serves. Once each night, he can choose one of four abilities: cast a misinformation aura, causing all info roles to give false results; protect himself; give himself -5 votes in the following lynch; use the power of a dead player. Caleb must use each of these abilities across each four-night period.

What makes you so sure I am not in that list?

You said that you have not alignment hinted.

The three middle roles are dead.

You said you didn't have a dayvig.

The only other one you can be is Caleb.

Caleb
Buffy Summers
Daniel 'Oz' Osbourne
Cordelia Chase
Glory
Angelus

My guess as to the living roles. I don't think this counts as outing anyone. I could totally be wrong about some of these.

According to information sent to me by Willow, Caleb has been dead since night 1.

As to giving any evience to back up that claim, the info sent is why I trusted her early, especially after she posted trust in me (confirming for me that it was her). And I didn't share this earlier because I didn't want to share the information unless it was necessary.

LoRab, post links in the thread to where she posted trust in you?

[MacDougall]

I didn't alignment hint but that doesn't meant I am not coincidentally in that list.

That I don't have a dayvig doesn't mean I didn't have one before.

[speedchuck]

I didn't alignment hint but that doesn't meant I am not coincidentally in that list.

That I don't have a dayvig doesn't mean I didn't have one before.

Spike has not used both of his kills, according to the OP.

[speedchuck]

I didn't alignment hint but that doesn't meant I am not coincidentally in that list.

That I don't have a dayvig doesn't mean I didn't have one before.

Spike has not used both of his kills, according to the OP.

Right. Fails on humans. Crap.

[MacDougall]

Fails on humans. Fails on Glory. Fails on protections. Pretty weak kills tbh.

[speedchuck]

Caleb
Buffy Summers
Daniel 'Oz' Osbourne
Cordelia Chase
Glory
Angelus

My guess as to the living roles. I don't think this counts as outing anyone. I could totally be wrong about some of these.

According to information sent to me by Willow, Caleb has been dead since night 1.

As to giving any evience to back up that claim, the info sent is why I trusted her early, especially after she posted trust in me (confirming for me that it was her). And I didn't share this earlier because I didn't want to share the information unless it was necessary.

Willow could have sent you this info whether good or bad. I want to see this confirmation, personally, but I don't think it affects your alignment at all. Sorry. I had a townread on you for most of the game, but I have a townread on everyone playing. Except Mac. I've had an indy read on him for days.

[LoRab]

These 2 posts are the ones that I read that way. I remember there being another one where she expressed trust, but I can't find it. I could be misremembering.

I'm done. I don't have time to defend against arguments that don't exist, and I apparently can't start up discussion toward lynching someone else without getting suspected.

I recognize Nutella came in and gave some reasons that I'm supposedly bad. The tone of the argument she gave has me waffling on my read of her, even if her arguments are full of it. I regret nothing that I have done in this game.
That's my meta. I never get suspected early in the game when I'm scum. Why? Because I know what I'm doing when scum. This is going to keep my meta rock solid, looks like.

SVS has left me no avenue for escape. There is probably scum on my train.

Good luck with the nightkills, because the only thing you're going to get with your lynches at this rate is shot in the foot, over and over again.


I leave with one concession, toward @nutella and @S~V~S. If you somehow back off and let me live this one night, I can townfirm myself to you without claiming.

Strong Townreads: Sig, Kylemii
Light townreads: Macdougall, Lorab, lapluie

I don't think that I believe that you're Willow, which is the only role that would make sense.

Yeah if this is what he's claiming he's full of shit

Do we have a list of everyone who didn't vote yesterday?

Linki: @nutella I find your lack of defending yourself also jarring. Are you doing the defend by scum hunting thing or what? You're right on the precipice of being lynched here too and have barely batted an eyelid since picking up votes.

To be honest I haven't really noticed that I'm in danger. I don't have a penalty vote so I saw that nova was ahead of me but now I do see that I suddenly have several votes.

Don't lynch me. Seriously. I could say the same thing speedchuck said but you probably wouldn't take that very well. But it's absolutely true for me. I've actually hinted at my role twice already. Also I think Lorab might have an idea of it.

[LoRab]

Caleb
Buffy Summers
Daniel 'Oz' Osbourne
Cordelia Chase
Glory
Angelus

My guess as to the living roles. I don't think this counts as outing anyone. I could totally be wrong about some of these.

According to information sent to me by Willow, Caleb has been dead since night 1.

As to giving any evience to back up that claim, the info sent is why I trusted her early, especially after she posted trust in me (confirming for me that it was her). And I didn't share this earlier because I didn't want to share the information unless it was necessary.

Willow could have sent you this info whether good or bad. I want to see this confirmation, personally, but I don't think it affects your alignment at all. Sorry. I had a townread on you for most of the game, but I have a townread on everyone playing. Except Mac. I've had an indy read on him for days.

Why would she tell me/confirm for me who she was in the thread, after messaging me, if she thought I was bad?

You are wrong about me.

And you are wrong about Mac. He is bad, not indy. He is lying to you and you are eating it up.

And if you thought he were Spike, and you're right about everyone else, then Spike was recruited, so he must be mafia. And/or you are wrong about someone else.

[speedchuck]

Mkay, makes sense. I believe you.

But it doesn't affect your alignment.

linki:

. . .

Crap that makes way too much sense. Let me think.

[speedchuck]

Uuuuggghghhhh

Mac had to have gotten recruited before Illy died if she did. But he was first to vote for her, right after your post suspecting her lightly.

uuuuurrrgghhhhhh

Hmm.

Oz killed Lapluie. She was Glory. Spike was recruited. You two are both scum, and this is a nightmare gambit from the pits of hell.

[speedchuck]

Guys, Mac and LoRab are scum batman gambitters

They are trying to anti-align as much as possible.

KILLLL IIIITTTTT

[speedchuck]

(No wait that doesn't work. If Mac got lynched, as scum, due to Lorab being Angelus and pushing a single vote on him along with mine and hers, then she'd be outsed AND Mac would die. Plan is flawed, and they would have thought it through. Only one of them is scum.)

If one of you is scum, it has to be... LoRab.

Because not enough people are here to change the lynch, and I am leaving soon myself. I'm done twisting myself in knots over this.

[speedchuck]

Sorry LoRab.

I can't change anything. You played a great game, as either alignment. If you're town, sorry I suck so much.

[MacDougall]

Thank fuck.

[LoRab]

Why are you so sure I must be bad? You are wrong and I am really trying to understand. I am not mafia. Mac is. And you must be wrong about someone else.

[speedchuck]

Why are you so sure I must be bad? You are wrong and I am really trying to understand. I am not mafia. Mac is. And you must be wrong about someone else.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure of anything.

I headed into today with you and Mac as my top townreads. But I'm townreading everyone, and this game isn't just me. Every current townie in this game (that isn't you) thinks we should vote you. I have had cases presented to me that opened things up.

I've had a pretty shoddy track record this game. I'm not about to throw it to the wolves now.

Consolidation is super important against Angelus. I'm trusting my townmates. That's why I'm sorry.

[LoRab]

Why are you so sure I must be bad? You are wrong and I am really trying to understand. I am not mafia. Mac is. And you must be wrong about someone else.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure of anything.

I headed into today with you and Mac as my top townreads. But I'm townreading everyone, and this game isn't just me. Every current townie in this game (that isn't you) thinks we should vote you. I have had cases presented to me that opened things up.

I've had a pretty shoddy track record this game. I'm not about to throw it to the wolves now.

Consolidation is super important against Angelus. I'm trusting my townmates. That's why I'm sorry.

But I'm not Angelus. I swear to you I am not. You are being duped.

[MacDougall]

At this juncture the risk that you are Angelus means the vote must stay unanimous. I am very sure you are either Glory or Angelus. I trust SVS. Tranq and sig less so but Speedchuck is confident in Tranq and sig has been a town read for me all game. That leaves you as a glaring POE vamp Lorab.

[speedchuck]

I ain't confident in crap, Mac. Tranq could totally be scum.

[MacDougall]

Wtf didn't you clear him?

[LoRab]

Fine. I'll play that way.

I'm not Angelus. I'm not a Vampire.

I am fairly certain who Angelus is. I know that because I know who I tried to kill when Juliets died.

But I'm willing to make a deal with either side. Angelus, reveal yourself or I will reveal you and I'll let you win against the civs--if you don't take the deal, you're surely dead tomorrow, if not before. If you reveal yourself, we can vote together against a civ, both kill tonight and I promise I'll let you win. Civs, move your votes off me and I'll partner with you and you'll either outnumber me or kill me.

[MacDougall]

Lol fucking gambit city out here.

[LoRab]

Of course it's a gambit. But I'm a woman of my word. I remind the civs that I haven't killed a civ, to my knowledge. I killed Caleb and I tried to kill Angelus.

As to Angeuls, I'll help you if you'll help me--otherwise I'll out you.

[speedchuck]

Holy crap

[speedchuck]

9 minutes

[speedchuck]

"Glory must outlive everyone to win"

Can a co-win even happen?

More importantly, is anyone even around for dayend? If you're hoping for Tranq, he's asleep. It's 5 AM his time.

[LoRab]

If either side helps me, I will let that side win. If Angelus helps me, I'll kill the civs who need to die and then allow myself to die. If the civs help me, I'll tell you who Angelus is.

[MacDougall]

Looks like it's gone to voicemail.

[LoRab]

Civs, you realize that I tie between civs and Angelus will be a tie tomorrow, right?

[MacDougall]

I am a bit concerned that sig posted in the other game but not here.

[LoRab]

Angelus, you realize that I inherit Buffy's kill?

[MacDougall]

Civs, you realize that I tie between civs and Angelus will be a tie tomorrow, right?

You what?

[speedchuck]

Civs, you realize that I tie between civs and Angelus will be a tie tomorrow, right?

This is true. 3 v 1, one vote gets moved away. If the vote gets moves to the right person, then it's a tie.

But we can't lynch Angelus without all of the players helping today

[LoRab]

Civs, you realize that I tie between civs and Angelus will be a tie tomorrow, right?

You what?

*a

typo. Sorry, I think it was evident what I meant.

[MacDougall]

It's a good effort but there aren't any secrets in your role there hot stuff.

[LoRab]

Civs, you realize that I tie between civs and Angelus will be a tie tomorrow, right?

This is true. 3 v 1, one vote gets moved away. If the vote gets moves to the right person, then it's a tie.

But we can't lynch Angelus without all of the players helping today

But we can try.

[LoRab]

It's a good effort but there aren't any secrets in your role there hot stuff.

I didn't imply or claim secrets.

[MacDougall]

Better out Angelus. We have 1 minute.

[speedchuck]

Civs, you realize that I tie between civs and Angelus will be a tie tomorrow, right?

This is true. 3 v 1, one vote gets moved away. If the vote gets moves to the right person, then it's a tie.

But we can't lynch Angelus without all of the players helping today

But we can try.

Me you, and mac could make it a tie at best, if we targeted a non-angelus player.

Sorry.

[MacDougall]

Don't be sorry we just lynched Glory. It's a good result.

[Long Con]

Power and Glory

"Buffy, please," cried Oz, tears flowing freely down his face. "When the wolf takes over I don't - I can't help-" he tried to grab her arm, to somehow convince her, but she leapt atop a wide tombstone and cast her stern gaze to the moonlit horizon. Oz fell to his knees, sobbing and slumping against the tombstone.

"You killed Riley. You killed Dawm!" Buffy spoke through gritted teeth, tears simmering in her own eyes, unable to look at him. "And because I hd to try to stop you, they killed WILLOW!" She briefly snapped a seething look at him, before turning away in disgust at his grief-wracked form.

"I'm not interrupting anything important, am I love?" Buffy whirled to see Spike, strolling from the shadows with a cigarette in his mouth. "Don't be too hard on the pup, he just needs a little run of obedience training!"

"I'm not in the mood for funny, Spike," growled Buffy, jumping down to stand face-to-face with him. "If you know where Angelus is, then tell me now!"

Spike held up his hands and raised hs eyebrows. "Of course, love! Yeah, I know where you can find that wanker!"

Buffy glared impatiently. "Where?"

Spike pointed behind her. "He's right over there!" She whirled to see Angelus at the door of a large tomb, holding a terrified Oz by the throat. Angelus winked, and ducked back into the darkness, dragging Oz with him.

"Spike!" Buffy turned to him, hurt and outraged. "Are you... are you working with him? Him?!"

"Well, he's an old mate, love," Spike shrugged. "You don't really turn down an invitation like that!" Buffy backed away from him, her look of absolute betrayal forcing Spike to look down at the ground.

"Sorry, Buff," he whispered. "Be... be careful down there."

She leapt through the darkened doorway, leaving Spike alone to contemplate his many sins.

A long staircase wound down through the darkness, and it seemed like forever before Buffy finally saw a purple glow ahead. As she emerged into an wide open area, she was instantly taken aback by the sight of a huge and glowing machine. At its centre, the goddess Glory was suspended, arms and legs held out wide, head lolling about in near-incomprehension. Waves of power were flowing from her body, through the winding conduits of the machine, coming together to a central throne, where Angelus sat, eyes glowing bright purple. Darla watced from the wings, cackling.

"Where is Oz?" demanded Buffy.

"Right beside you," said Angelus evenly. "I snapped his neck as soon as we came in. Didn't need him any more."

Buffy curled her hands into fists and took a fighting stance. "Yours is the next neck that snaps, you bastard!"

Angelus laughed hearilty, and Glory's body seized briefly and painfully, unable to cope with the level of power drain. Angelus rose from the throne, and held up his fist, which was enveloped in a glowing pruple flame. "I am more powerful than you are really equipped to deal with, Buffy. "This goddess is really powerful, but MAN is she stupid! Didn't take much to trick her into our trap. And now all the power," he pointed at Buffy, "is MINE!" With a flick of his finger, Buffy was sent flying through the air to crash painfully into the stone wall across the room.

Before she could recover, Angelus was upon her. He whispered in her ear, easily holding her still. "The Master was always obsessed with drinking the blood of a Slayer. I can definitely see the appeal..."

Buffy struggled, to no avail. "Get off me, Angel! Please, you have to stop this!"

"Not going to happen. This time, the good guys aren't going to win, Buff. All your friends are dead. Your family is dead. And I have the power of a god."

He could feel her quivering, the tears in her eyes telling him that she knew it was true.

"Just give into me, and it will all be over." He leaned close and sniffed her neck. "You can join us. There's nothing left for you out there. Join us..."

Buffy tried to find a reason to argue, but despair and defeat were too overwhelming. "I... I..."

"Good to hear," grinned Angelus, his handsome features twisting into vampiric horror as his fangs burst forth. "I really would have missed ya, Buff!"

With that, he sank his fangs deep into her compliant neck.


Lorab has been lynched. She was Glory.

The Vampires have won Buffy Mafia: At The Hellmouth!

Macdougall - Angelus
Illyria - Drusilla
Tranq - Darla
S~V~S - Spike

Congratulations baddies! Thank you to everyone for playing!

[speedchuck]

THREE vampires left.

Never had a chance.

[speedchuck]

Excellent game, vamps. Obliterated. Dang.

Unsure why the game didn't end before today, really. No way would could have gotten the support to get Mac, even with Glory's help.

[MacDougall]

Yeah we kind of got a bit lucky there.

[Kylemii]

congrats

still disappointed we didn't get to make the wishmasons plan happen. :[