Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]

[Epignosis]

This is the kind of shit I'm talking about. This game is RIFE with secret powers and strange shenanigans and fuckery.

And JJJ acts like this proposition is a slam dunk.

[MacDougall]

Guys please. Can you just fucking pick who you think is a werewolf and vote for them and then stop with the shenanigans. You should all be policy lynched for this garbage.

What’s the problem? You either lynch a mafioso, or you eliminate one suspect while clearing another.

That’s not a bad situation.

Did you even read what I was complaining about? I am complaining about the prospect of 100 vote changes occurring in the final 60 minutes. That's basically going to make it impossible for us to coordinate and the Mafia will thrive in the chaos.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Guys please. Can you just fucking pick who you think is a werewolf and vote for them and then stop with the shenanigans. You should all be policy lynched for this garbage.

What’s the problem? You either lynch a mafioso, or you eliminate one suspect while clearing another.

That’s not a bad situation.

So the mafia have absolutely no secret ability to affect the lynch vote total, you're saying?

I have no idea, and I am not going to base everything I do on these fucking maybes.

[MacDougall]

If I was a civilian and I showed up to place my civilian vote on a person I think is Mafia and I have no idea what the vote tally is and then by the time I actually figure it out and cast my vote there has been 10 linki vote changes, I would probably just go and watch porn instead.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Don't let mafia tell you to keep the tie. Bury the mafia.

If you're a civilian you have wasted so much of your own time. Jesus.

[MacDougall]

Jimmy, are you saying that you'd rather an EOD with a game full of people chopping and changing their votes on a whim? We've just used an entire day's play, there are wagons, cases, rationalisations have been made. There were 2 full days before it. There is no fucking reason why anyone would have to wait until they have an epiphany with an hour to spare to change their vote. That is so pro-mafia it's ridiculous. Let's make the Mafia stand out like dogs balls to do what they have to do. Let's not allow for a thread environment that could allow the Mafia to "accidentally" mislynch a civ and not have to answer for it.

[Epignosis]

Don't let mafia tell you to keep the tie. Bury the mafia.

If you're a civilian you have wasted so much of your own time. Jesus.

I've wasted so much of my time regardless due to poor personal life decisions.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jimmy, are you saying that you'd rather an EOD with a game full of people chopping and changing their votes on a whim? We've just used an entire day's play, there are wagons, cases, rationalisations have been made. There were 2 full days before it. There is no fucking reason why anyone would have to wait until they have an epiphany with an hour to spare to change their vote. That is so pro-mafia it's ridiculous. Let's make the Mafia stand out like dogs balls to do what they have to do. Let's not allow for a thread environment that could allow the Mafia to "accidentally" mislynch a civ and not have to answer for it.

If someone fucks up the tie and y'all don't make them answer for it, that is not my fault. Maybe this will help with the stragglers you're terrified of:

KEEP THE TIE

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Also Mac, I am literally calling for nobody to change their votes again in this phase. If the tally doesn't move a millimeter, it'd be PERFECT. I don't want people chopping and changing votes; that's the opposite of what I have called for.

[Long Con]

How much time? Not too sure about the tie.

[DrWilgy]

Who do I vote for? My burning passion for Dunya has burnt out.

Did it ever really exist?

It did. I really felt like she had another agenda and was opposed to progression of townie thought.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Who do I vote for? My burning passion for Dunya has burnt out.

Did it ever really exist?

It did. I really felt like she had another agenda and was opposed to progression of townie thought.

Tell me about that agenda. What do you think she was after?

[Long Con]

But JJJ, you think there's not a single behind-the-scenes vote out there?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

But JJJ, you think there's not a single behind-the-scenes vote out there?

I don't know. There could be. I have no reason to assume that. I don't have time for maybemongering.

[DrWilgy]

Don't let mafia tell you to keep the tie. Bury the mafia.

I like Epi.

[VOTE: JJJ] AUBERGINE ... ?

What is the whole AUBERGINE thing anyhow?

[DrWilgy]

But JJJ, you think there's not a single behind-the-scenes vote out there?

I don't know. There could be. I have no reason to assume that. I don't have time for maybemongering.

Fuck your tie madness. That's what I do when I'm bad.

[Epignosis]

Don't let mafia tell you to keep the tie. Bury the mafia.

I like Epi.

[VOTE: JJJ] AUBERGINE ... ?

What is the whole AUBERGINE thing anyhow?

Civilian right here.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

But JJJ, you think there's not a single behind-the-scenes vote out there?

I don't know. There could be. I have no reason to assume that. I don't have time for maybemongering.

Fuck your tie madness. That's what I do when I'm bad.

What you do when you're bad is this:

WEEEE TIES ARE FUN.

I am trying to use gwilly's role to its fullest potential. If y'all can't even recognize that opportunity then please bloody lynch me. Get me out of this headache.

[lapluie]

Don't let mafia tell you to keep the tie. Bury the mafia.

I like Epi.

[VOTE: JJJ] AUBERGINE ... ?

What is the whole AUBERGINE thing anyhow?

Asked myself the same dang thing, it's an eggplant ok

[Epignosis]

But JJJ, you think there's not a single behind-the-scenes vote out there?

I don't know. There could be. I have no reason to assume that. I don't have time for maybemongering.

Fuck your tie madness. That's what I do when I'm bad.

What you do when you're bad is this:

WEEEE TIES ARE FUN.

I am trying to use gwilly's role to its fullest potential. If y'all can't even recognize that opportunity then please bloody lynch me. Get me out of this headache.

I recognize the role.

It isn't the only role.

And you are acting like it is.

[lapluie]

Jjj is NOT mafia, he's even willing to die, this is insane

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I recognize the role.

It isn't the only role.

And you are acting like it is.

If the mafia team has some extra vote and they want to waste it on Day 3, then they be my guest.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jjj is NOT mafia, he's even willing to die, this is insane

Neither are you. You're one of my strongest civilian reads. If I die, don't lynch lapluie.

[Epignosis]

Jjj is NOT mafia, he's even willing to die, this is insane

Explain to me how saying you are willing to die makes you not mafia.

[Marmot]

I am often wiling to die when I am not mafia. See Fiddler on the Roof Mafia.

[lapluie]

Jjj is NOT mafia, he's even willing to die, this is insane

Explain to me how saying you are willing to die makes you not mafia.

From what I've played here, I seen it being said before a lynch & I rememeber how dunya kinda gave up on mk, sounds like jjj is too, (not really but it's getting stressful for him), it just sounds very genuine & throwing the towel in that theyre willing to die to prove a point they're not mafia.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

This isn't some damned appeal. My biggest fear in this game is that Dwarf and I are both civilians, and that both of us are headed for a lynch over the next two days in whatever order. Gwilly's role presents an opportunity to prevent that eventuality while also allowing a mafioso to be lynched if one of us is it. Shit, if y'all prefer then we can switch it around so that gwilly votes for ME. I don't give a shit. It makes sense.

But what if the mafia team has X role...

[Epignosis]

I recognize the role.

It isn't the only role.

And you are acting like it is.

If the mafia team has some extra vote and they want to waste it on Day 3, then they be my guest.

You are encouraging this lynch to hinge on the nature of a single role. You are even throwing an all-caps battle cry KEEP THE TIE out there.

If you are a civilian, you would have acknowledged that other forces are likely at work, and that a civilian could be lynched, nobody is cleared, and even worse, people may make untrue assumptions. You would not have conceded so easily that a tie is in the civilians' best interest.

[DrWilgy]

I am often wiling to die when I am not mafia. See Fiddler on the Roof Mafia.

I'm just often willing to die.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If you are a civilian, you would have acknowledged that other forces are likely at work, and that a civilian could be lynched, nobody is cleared, and even worse, people may make untrue assumptions. You would not have conceded so easily that a tie is in the civilians' best interest.

No. One thing civilian JJJ doesn't give two shits about is pointless conjecture. You are making two bad decisions at the same time:

1. Read JJJ with iron confidence given an incorrect perception of how he'd play under whatever conditions.

2. Refuse to acknowledge the validity of a strategy because of conditions which have no objective existence in this game. They are cans and coulds. It's also possible one of the mafia members is a fig newton. Who cares.

Defend your logic if you want. You'll know soon enough at least that I really believe what I am saying to you. Nobody can tell me I didn't try.

[MacDougall]

Also Mac, I am literally calling for nobody to change their votes again in this phase. If the tally doesn't move a millimeter, it'd be PERFECT. I don't want people chopping and changing votes; that's the opposite of what I have called for.

Why did you reply to my initial post as though you were disputing my point if you agree with it!?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Don't let mafia tell you to keep the tie. Bury the mafia.

But they are both bad.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

If I see any shenanigans I am going to use my secret night power to turn you into a literal floating human turd irl.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Also Mac, I am literally calling for nobody to change their votes again in this phase. If the tally doesn't move a millimeter, it'd be PERFECT. I don't want people chopping and changing votes; that's the opposite of what I have called for.

Why did you reply to my initial post as though you were disputing my point if you agree with it!?

I replied to the end of it where you told me not to let someone engage in shenanigans and get away with it. I said not to let them do that. Anyone has the power to make the post: "why did you do that?"

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Don't let mafia tell you to keep the tie. Bury the mafia.

But they are both bad.

Lord I hope Dwarf is at least, or this game is going to careen out of control.

[MacDougall]

Jjj is NOT mafia, he's even willing to die, this is insane

Neither are you. You're one of my strongest civilian reads. If I die, don't lynch lapluie.

Um no, if you die and flip civ she becomes a red skittle.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Don't let mafia tell you to keep the tie. Bury the mafia.

I like Epi.

[VOTE: JJJ] AUBERGINE ... ?

What is the whole AUBERGINE thing anyhow?

Just use [VOTE: tags.] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jjj is NOT mafia, he's even willing to die, this is insane

Neither are you. You're one of my strongest civilian reads. If I die, don't lynch lapluie.

Um no, if you die and flip civ she becomes a red skittle.

That's about how much people have listened to me so far, I guess. What do I know, I've played this game like three times.

[MacDougall]

Jjj is NOT mafia, he's even willing to die, this is insane

Neither are you. You're one of my strongest civilian reads. If I die, don't lynch lapluie.

Um no, if you die and flip civ she becomes a red skittle.

That's about how much people have listened to me so far, I guess. What do I know, I've played this game like three times.

Lapluie crying out that we are about to mislynch you (if you are a civ) is about the biggest scumslip in the game so far.

[MacDougall]

Vote tally plz & thx. Why are we not using the poll for this, it's driving me nuts!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Pretty sure I'm up by one vote.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

AUBERGINE

[6] JaggedJimmyJay - Dragon D. Luffy, MacDougall, Epignosis, sprityo, Marmot, Dr. Wilgy
[5] Iron_Dwarf - colonialbob, speedchuck, nutella, gwilikers6, JaggedJimmyJay
[1] sig - Kenway
[1] DrWilgy - Long Con
[3] nutella - Iron_Dwarf, Quin, lapluie
[1] rundontwalk - Kites
[1] gwilikers6 - rundontwalk

No vote: Kylemii, sig

[Dragon D. Luffy]

[mention]Kylemii[/mention]
[mention]sig[/mention]

Time to vote.

[MacDougall]

Pretty sure I'm up by one vote.

You're probably on like zero votes or some shit if yesterday is anything to go by.

[MacDougall]

@Kylemii
@sig

Time to vote.

Not getting their vote in on time (ie. not levelling up) is a civ tell btw. These guys are civs.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

AUBERGINE

[6] JaggedJimmyJay - Dragon D. Luffy, MacDougall, Epignosis, sprityo, Marmot, DrWilgy
[5] Iron_Dwarf - colonialbob, speedchuck, nutella, gwilikers6, JaggedJimmyJay
[1] sig - Kenway
[1] DrWilgy - Long Con
[3] nutella - Iron_Dwarf, Quin, lapluie
[1] rundontwalk - Kites
[1] gwilikers6 - rundontwalk

No vote:, Kylemii, sig

[Epignosis]

If you are a civilian, you would have acknowledged that other forces are likely at work, and that a civilian could be lynched, nobody is cleared, and even worse, people may make untrue assumptions. You would not have conceded so easily that a tie is in the civilians' best interest.

No. One thing civilian JJJ doesn't give two shits about is pointless conjecture. You are making two bad decisions at the same time:

1. Read JJJ with iron confidence given an incorrect perception of how he'd play under whatever conditions.

2. Refuse to acknowledge the validity of a strategy because of conditions which have no objective existence in this game. They are cans and coulds. It's also possible one of the mafia members is a fig newton. Who cares.

Defend your logic if you want. You'll know soon enough at least that I really believe what I am saying to you. Nobody can tell me I didn't try.

1. I am not making an incorrect perception of what you would do under whatever conditions. I am calling your cases weak and poorly thought out. I don't care about your post count or your burn out. What you have posted, in my own judgment, is phony to me. That doens't require circumstance or conditions- it's my judgment, and that's how this thing works. I am but one vote, however.

2. This is not pointless conjecture. There are votes that count. Votes that count twice. Votes that don't count if this or that. That isn't conjecture. Those things or variants of them exist. If they don't, a number of people are lying. That you think you will advance the civilian win condition by mindlessly setting up a tie because of one role makes me think you want a tie for evil reasons.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

By the way, I still think Wilgy's suspicion of dunya was 100% grade A fake.

[MacDougall]

It says the poll has ended btw?

[MacDougall]

[mention]Iron_Dwarf[/mention]
[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]

At this point we don't know which of you goes but it's time for you to say your last words in case it's you.