Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:17 pm
I know my attempt to kill someone didn't even get to the misdirect phase but you have to take my word for it.
did you elaborate on this already? if not please do so.
Why would it not get to the misdirect phase?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:16 pm
Tried to misdirect Kites and it failed.
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:23 pm
Are we not going to try and figure out the night actions? I feel it could help us at least figure out a course of action
I’m still pretty gung ho on lynching quin unless there’s a good reason not to.
There are approximately 21742864823468 ways this kill could have ended on Mac.
Including the fact someone misdirected a misdirector (iirc someone said they did it on Quin) and made a random person hit a random person.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:17 pm
I know my attempt to kill someone didn't even get to the misdirect phase but you have to take my word for it.
did you elaborate on this already? if not please do so.
Why would it not get to the misdirect phase?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:16 pm
Tried to misdirect Kites and it failed.
[VOTE:
Dr. Wilgy] aubergine
so it failed due to roleblock or you misdirected someone else? im assuming roleblock, which can only be a handful of people. Im pretty sure Mac wouldnt have roleblocked you
linki: maybe so, but that doesnt mean we cant attempt to solve something by getting a list of night actions
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 11:46 pm
You all are terrible at this.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:How does it feel to be the Best Civilian Player on the Syndicate?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:17 pm
I know my attempt to kill someone didn't even get to the misdirect phase but you have to take my word for it.
did you elaborate on this already? if not please do so.
Why would it not get to the misdirect phase?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:16 pm
Tried to misdirect Kites and it failed.
[VOTE:
Dr. Wilgy] aubergine
so it failed due to roleblock or you misdirected someone else? im assuming roleblock, which can only be a handful of people. Im pretty sure Mac wouldnt have roleblocked you
linki: maybe so, but that doesnt mean we cant attempt to solve something by getting a list of night actions
I don't know why it failed. Could be a roleblock, a player who is immune to it for some reason, or a combination of that and a misdirect.
Sprityo your time will be better spent if you explain why the hell you want to lynch Quin, instead of solving the night kill puzzle that we lack the information to.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:17 pm
I know my attempt to kill someone didn't even get to the misdirect phase but you have to take my word for it.
did you elaborate on this already? if not please do so.
Why would it not get to the misdirect phase?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:16 pm
Tried to misdirect Kites and it failed.
[VOTE:
Dr. Wilgy] aubergine
so it failed due to roleblock or you misdirected someone else? im assuming roleblock, which can only be a handful of people. Im pretty sure Mac wouldnt have roleblocked you
linki: maybe so, but that doesnt mean we cant attempt to solve something by getting a list of night actions
I don't know why it failed. Could be a roleblock, a player who is immune to it for some reason, or a combination of that and a misdirect.
well i mean the misdirect wouldve hit SOMEONE,
exactly how many Roleblocks does the game include/how many were in play last night?
linki: ill move my vote off quin when i feel ive found a better target, the fact still stands that a critical hit killed both Mac and LC. unless theres another way kills can Crit, ill leave that there because it is "a reason"
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 11:46 pm
You all are terrible at this.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:How does it feel to be the Best Civilian Player on the Syndicate?
DDL youre really gonna tell me to not try and move the game forward? try to get juices flowing? stagnating is only gonna let mafia take control of the lynch
Do you think Quin is town, is that why youre asking me?
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 11:46 pm
You all are terrible at this.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:How does it feel to be the Best Civilian Player on the Syndicate?
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:25 pm
*slams fist on table* I want to know everyone’s night actions if you haven’t already posted it. And anyone not willing to comply is as good as scum in my book
Day 4 and we need material
I targeted you each of the first two nights. Kenway last night.
Any particular reason for targetting me? im not exactly present in the first 3 days, i didnt contribute hardly anything, and you couldve targetted epi who has been much more active i the thread if you were choosing me purely for being a doctor role.
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:25 pm
*slams fist on table* I want to know everyone’s night actions if you haven’t already posted it. And anyone not willing to comply is as good as scum in my book
Day 4 and we need material
I targeted you each of the first two nights. Kenway last night.
Any particular reason for targetting me? im not exactly present in the first 3 days, i didnt contribute hardly anything, and you couldve targetted epi who has been much more active i the thread if you were choosing me purely for being a doctor role.
I thought Epignosis was mafia on Day 1.
and Day 2?
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 11:46 pm
You all are terrible at this.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:How does it feel to be the Best Civilian Player on the Syndicate?
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:45 pm
DDL youre really gonna tell me to not try and move the game forward? try to get juices flowing? stagnating is only gonna let mafia take control of the lynch
Do you think Quin is town, is that why youre asking me?
No, I am telling to to play the actual game of mafia instead of speculating on roles.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:51 pm
We should be spending this phase frantically throwing reads on people and trying to understand who is who.
So guys. Please do that. Post rainbows or salads or whatever you prefer.
Time to solve the game. Who is bad?
thats what im attempting
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 11:46 pm
You all are terrible at this.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:How does it feel to be the Best Civilian Player on the Syndicate?
linki: ill move my vote off quin when i feel ive found a better target, the fact still stands that a critical hit killed both Mac and LC. unless theres another way kills can Crit, ill leave that there because it is "a reason"
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 11:46 pm
You all are terrible at this.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:How does it feel to be the Best Civilian Player on the Syndicate?
Seriously do you have any reason to lynch him that is based on his posts? Are you going just by night action speculation?
Because this is completely suboptimal. Night actions are unreliable as a way to read people. Meanwhile we have 110 pages of posts to analyse.
Are you telling me you have gor norhing from those so far so that you need to resort to praying Quin was not misdirected so that you can get an easy lynch?
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:36 pm
i do suspect dunya. the argument that a civilian should be meeting a scum read quota is bad. i also suspect nutella for following through with that argument.
I count about 9 actually productive posts, and in those he only talks about/gives reads of ~5 players (Jay, Dr. White, DDL, dunya, and coliniscool).
About 6 completely fluffy posts, and about 6 posts relating to the scumread quota business.
The most productive content I see is the ~4 posts you direct to Colin. How are you feeling about him now?
---Day 2---
you prod lapluie a bit
talk a little bit about the rabbit kill/justifications for it
call out lapluie for playing "with a crutch" -- ok this is actually decent hunting, have you followed it up at all? or I guess she hasn't responded yet
pretty much everything after that is defending your content to me/jay and calling me scum
so... your most significant contributions have been against colin and lap, and yet you choose to vote for me simply because I'm calling you out k dude
Why are you reducing my suspicion of you to a NO U? Your argument sucks. I, nor anybody else is obligated to meet any number of reads and I hate your take on my posts. lapluie and Colin be damned. I suspect you.
I don't think you've given more than a seconds thought into my posts, nutella. You slam almost every post of mine that has meat because it isn't directly tied to a progression of reads. I count three times you've admitted a post has content but disregarded it as "but it's not good enough." Also hate that you've labelled my attack on you and dunya re: scum quota as non-productive. Explain to me the lack of productivity in those posts.
as for your question re Colin: I think he's town. I believe that he believed in his criticism of Epi's plan. I haven't read any more.
Kenway wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:37 pm
Hello, I was here yesterday but the thread got locked.
I still think we should test the public list out, namely lynch sig or lapluie and see if they flip scum.
If sig is scum they have two kills a night, I think it's wise for him to not use it now, he can get trigger-happy later and claim so and so is scummy.
This has "ploy" written all over it. I don't know for sure if those two are scum/town but I really don't think that's what's going on in that post, there could be scum in any of the homelands and townies in any of them as well. And I'm not really sure if it's in a mafia vig's best interests to keep quiet for the time being, don't you think this would be the period in the game where it's easiest to get away with mistakenly killing a townie? If I had that role as a scum I'd be trying to thin the ranks, quickly, self-preservation be damned. I think a lot of us were expecting another death today, and it's not like if it had been two townies we'd suddenly be coming at sig with torches and pitchforks. Sorry Kenway but I'm not buying this.
Agree with the assessment, disagree with the Kenway read.
Wyvern rider is a higher priority tracker target. I think sig of any alignment killing anyone this early is going to put him under pressure, which I think he'd especially want to avoid if he was bad. If two people died last night I'd be looking at everyone with a kill chance. Including sig.
I have no reason to call sig bad fyi. Just my take.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:53 pm
Like, apparently one of the host posts said they were giving me time to catch up when they locked the topic or something. Wish I'd known that at the time. I might have read something.
Who should I be suspecting, Quin?
Because I'm sitting with about 4 townreads atm.
linki: Cool, I'll look at that case. 4 hours gives me time.
I suspect nutella and lapluie. Your predecessor to a lesser degree as well. nutella threw a bad case at me and I'm not happy with anything she's said about it. I've had a back and forth with her in my posts you can read. lapluie isn't here, a stark comparison to her MK performance. She's also using her confusion with the setup and pace of this game as a crutch.
these are the four posts out of Quin's ENTIRE ISO (only 3 pages long mind you, and 1/3 of it was Day 0/1)
Everything else is either questions to Dr White, Nutella, and Dunya. those are his three big interactions, some commentary on Colin as well
other than that. Nothing. I dont have any reason to believe Quin is Town, not from what he has done.
Like he straight up hard gunning for nutella, a lot of NO U mostly. And has made a weak attempt at throwing shade and Lapluie. Vig is one of the most annoying town roles, because it can destroy town just as easily as the mafia can.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 11:46 pm
You all are terrible at this.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:How does it feel to be the Best Civilian Player on the Syndicate?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:02 pm
Mac was right. We are doomed.
Stop Crying. If you dont want to win, fine. Ask to be replaced out. I dont care. But until we get off our asses as a collective we're gonna let mafia win.
Not to say you havent been contributing DDL, but attitudes like that wont win the game
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 11:46 pm
You all are terrible at this.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:How does it feel to be the Best Civilian Player on the Syndicate?
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:14 pm
Like he straight up hard gunning for nutella, a lot of NO U mostly. And has made a weak attempt at throwing shade and Lapluie. Vig is one of the most annoying town roles, because it can destroy town just as easily as the mafia can.
If Quin were really wanting to win, to have to TOWN win. He should be more conscious of his night action submitions, no matter percentage of killing it might actually do
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 11:46 pm
You all are terrible at this.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:How does it feel to be the Best Civilian Player on the Syndicate?
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:14 pm
Like he straight up hard gunning for nutella, a lot of NO U mostly. And has made a weak attempt at throwing shade and Lapluie. Vig is one of the most annoying town roles, because it can destroy town just as easily as the mafia can.
If Quin were really wanting to win, to have to TOWN win. He should be more conscious of his night action submitions, no matter percentage of killing it might actually do
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:14 pm
Like he straight up hard gunning for nutella, a lot of NO U mostly. And has made a weak attempt at throwing shade and Lapluie. Vig is one of the most annoying town roles, because it can destroy town just as easily as the mafia can.
If Quin were really wanting to win, to have to TOWN win. He should be more conscious of his night action submitions, no matter percentage of killing it might actually do
I don't understand your point here.
Do you already know who Quin intended to target?
No, im saying i said what i said, If he had the town win con in mind when submitting what he would do for the night. He shouldve either misdirected or not targeted, or at least targeted someone that the town as a whole generally agrees is bad. Quin couldve targetted DrWilgy any of the past 3 nights. Why not? Vigging an inactive saves the town hassle. OR he couldve vigged one of the people he "thought was bad" AKA Lapluie or nutella. Now Misdirects aside (im looking at you Cbob), back to what i said first, he couldve either misdirected or not submitted a kill action so that he could safely assure he doesnt accidentally kill a towny.
This situation applies to all town aligned roles with kills. Or in this case anyone with a kill in their role, like Sig
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 11:46 pm
You all are terrible at this.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:How does it feel to be the Best Civilian Player on the Syndicate?
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:34 pm
i have a question for everyone...
i tipped my hand yesterday to the fact that I'm using my magic to turn protections and pseudo protections into kills that only affect the mafia
do you think the mafia would have taken notice of that and also been concerned enough to block me, if they had the capability of doing so?
I think your role is block-bait.
Or misdirect bait.
okay but that's my question. my power failed last night.
my power being misdirected would only cause a fail if I ended up targeting Wilgy the pirate and even then it's possible my power would reverse his and make him easier to hit than more difficult. of the blockers that were active last night, there's Mac, who was civ and vocally townread me, then there's colonialbob who claims to have misdirected quin last night, and iron dwarf who, as of last phase, claimed he's never targeted me.
unless I'm missing something, there seems to be a contradiction in these claims
[mention]gwilikers6[/mention] can you explain your town read of Kites please?? I just searched your mentions of him in your iso and you suspected him before
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:02 pm
Mac was right. We are doomed.
no, we are not DOOMED, let's stick togetehr now, youre my strongest town read, i think youre good. who have you voted for & think would be an ideal lynch right now? Name 2 people.
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:38 pm
@gwilikers6 can you explain your town read of Kites please?? I just searched your mentions of him in your iso and you suspected him before
Half the reason I suspected Kites early was some of his posts looking like they were fishing for information, and that gave me a scummy vibe. Both of these have been subsequently explained and make sense from a town perspective. I'm referring to the long-lost brother thing and the gender thing. It also helps that I used my night action on him and got a completely innocuous PM that clearly only included the public role his class has.
I would think Kenway was scum if not for dunya saying certain posts of his confirm to his town meta in a way that those same posts would look scummy for anyone else. So I'm unsure how to read him, but I'm deferring to dunya and thinking he's probably town.
[mention]sprityo[/mention] I like your post about quin, his behaviour is eerie compared to the last game I played with him when he was town, he's seems to be just hiding in the bush & not contributing on a lot, I always think he's mafia regardless of any game im plating with him, but genuinely do feel like he's behaving a different tone in this game which is odd, I like your reasonings as well. I'm gonna vote for quin.
Fiddler on the Roof
k dude
