Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]

[Kites]

@gwilikers6 @Kites Kenway train if rundontwalk doesn't suit you?

I don’t feel a Kenway lynch. I’d be fine with lynching you tho

[Iron_Dwarf]

We are online with too few players to confidently start a train. So as it stands now we have a tie.

[colonialbob]

I'm 100% for Kenway.

[VOTE: Kenway] aubergine

[Kites]

we’re running out of time and it looks like it’s gonna be between kenway and dwarfie

[VOTE: iron_dwarf] aubergine

[speedchuck]

Oh whoa I thought dayend was tonight!

Catch me up on what's happening.

[colonialbob]

I'm like 75% on Kites/Kenway/gwilly

[colonialbob]

Oh whoa I thought dayend was tonight!

Catch me up on what's happening.

vote with me pls

[Kites]

speedie finish what you started yesterday

[speedchuck]

Oh whoa I thought dayend was tonight!

Catch me up on what's happening.

vote with me pls

Why would I vote Kenway?

[colonialbob]

everyone listed here is civ imo and wouldn’t lynch

rdw: his typical behavior p much. his vote/action points to promotion check out. if he is scum and received double life in the beginning i think he’d have tried harder to not become lynched since it would be a waste. also I dont think he wouldn’t have waited until night 7 to fakeclaim it

speedchuck: civ behavior really, can’t find anything rly bad despite trying hard

kenway: not that it would assure any of you, also i dont give a shit if you dont, but i simply think his posts are genuine. guys a civ who couldn’t keep up with the thread and post useful shit cos real life stuff. i might be wrong but I’d feel bad for voting him cos I don’t think he is scum and i hve played against scum kenway before. his vote/action points to promotion check out

kylemii: the problem is that his role doesn’t promote so he doesn’t have to lie about night actions if he’s scum. i liked his background search on my lost brother thingy. i have no reason to believe he is scum. also the ttownfirming epi thing, esp when he was suspected by many

gwilikers: it’s been proven he used his monk power = he didn’t promote in the beginning. next.

sprityo:

Spoiler: show

I really need you guys to focus in here cause we’ve lose basically any player willing enough to be active

Mafia are obviously scared and we are on their tail

Iron Dwarf, I don’t care if you want RDW Lynched now, the fact stands mafia killed Epi through my protect so one of the people with misdirects is at fault here

So the question begs is it Cbob or Nutella?

@colonialbob who was your target
@nutella who was your target?

You know, I kinda think you're scum. You claim to have targeted Epi every night, even though there have been much more attractive scum kill targets every night except for last night. Seems like an easy way to generate fake night action claims to me. And now with this post it looks like you're trying to set up our next two lynches. Plus, let's not forget that scum have already had a misdirector in Quin. And the first two lines of this post just seem very fake to me.

i think the doctor loop was clever but of course there must be a way to break it somehow. i’d say sprityo is civ based mostly on gaining epi’s trust in their btsc, it would be very difficult to lie convincingly to him in a private chat

Kites:

Spoiler: show

I’m confirmed civ deal with it

sprityo and anyone suspecting me

gwilly cleared me on night 3

This was my exact result btw: “**f*** *m ** - s*g”

I was drunk last night and working now so I haven’t put the slightest effort into decoding it. Have at it.

Soften 'em up. It corroborates I think Kites (?) who said they boosted sig's kill chance. I obviously didn't do that, so you were misdirected or something.

soften em up is an archer power so I hadn’t been promoted yet

a) promoted monk could def still have the PM power
b) the fact you think that PM result townclears you is laughable.

[mention]gwilikers6[/mention] what have you been up to since you got Kites' PM?

[colonialbob]

Oh whoa I thought dayend was tonight!

Catch me up on what's happening.

vote with me pls

Why would I vote Kenway?

Cos he's bad? I can't come up with a single reason to townread him tbh.

Who would you prefer to vote for?

[speedchuck]

I'm going to need a significant reason to vote him over I_D, if not for reading purposes, then for the fact that I spent yesterday assailing Iron_Dwarf.

[colonialbob]

Seriously make some cases. If we pick wrong we pick wrong but I'll be damned if I'm going to let town lose by just shrugging and letting mafia run the lynch.

[colonialbob]

I'm going to need a significant reason to vote him over I_D, if not for reading purposes, then for the fact that I spent yesterday assailing Iron_Dwarf.

Do you think Kites/Kyle/Kenway are all town? I know you said you had a strong townread of Kenway, I can't figure out why

[Iron_Dwarf]

[VOTE: Kenway] aubergine

With you bob

[Kites]

[mention]colonialbob[/mention]
take a look at the role list and you can see that no two roles have a power with a same name, the same goes for promoted roles. if even one person comes forward and says his/her promoted role has a power with the same name as the pre-promotion role did, I’m not cleared. But that ain’t happening

[colonialbob]

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] do you think sig is town or mafia? How strongly?

[gwilikers6]

everyone listed here is civ imo and wouldn’t lynch

rdw: his typical behavior p much. his vote/action points to promotion check out. if he is scum and received double life in the beginning i think he’d have tried harder to not become lynched since it would be a waste. also I dont think he wouldn’t have waited until night 7 to fakeclaim it

speedchuck: civ behavior really, can’t find anything rly bad despite trying hard

kenway: not that it would assure any of you, also i dont give a shit if you dont, but i simply think his posts are genuine. guys a civ who couldn’t keep up with the thread and post useful shit cos real life stuff. i might be wrong but I’d feel bad for voting him cos I don’t think he is scum and i hve played against scum kenway before. his vote/action points to promotion check out

kylemii: the problem is that his role doesn’t promote so he doesn’t have to lie about night actions if he’s scum. i liked his background search on my lost brother thingy. i have no reason to believe he is scum. also the ttownfirming epi thing, esp when he was suspected by many

gwilikers: it’s been proven he used his monk power = he didn’t promote in the beginning. next.

sprityo:

Spoiler: show

I really need you guys to focus in here cause we’ve lose basically any player willing enough to be active

Mafia are obviously scared and we are on their tail

Iron Dwarf, I don’t care if you want RDW Lynched now, the fact stands mafia killed Epi through my protect so one of the people with misdirects is at fault here

So the question begs is it Cbob or Nutella?

@colonialbob who was your target
@nutella who was your target?

You know, I kinda think you're scum. You claim to have targeted Epi every night, even though there have been much more attractive scum kill targets every night except for last night. Seems like an easy way to generate fake night action claims to me. And now with this post it looks like you're trying to set up our next two lynches. Plus, let's not forget that scum have already had a misdirector in Quin. And the first two lines of this post just seem very fake to me.

i think the doctor loop was clever but of course there must be a way to break it somehow. i’d say sprityo is civ based mostly on gaining epi’s trust in their btsc, it would be very difficult to lie convincingly to him in a private chat

Kites:

Spoiler: show

I’m confirmed civ deal with it

sprityo and anyone suspecting me

gwilly cleared me on night 3

This was my exact result btw: “**f*** *m ** - s*g”

I was drunk last night and working now so I haven’t put the slightest effort into decoding it. Have at it.

Soften 'em up. It corroborates I think Kites (?) who said they boosted sig's kill chance. I obviously didn't do that, so you were misdirected or something.

soften em up is an archer power so I hadn’t been promoted yet

a) promoted monk could def still have the PM power
b) the fact you think that PM result townclears you is laughable.

@gwilikers6 what have you been up to since you got Kites' PM?

a. Yeah, I can see why you would think that. It doesn't though. I'll reveal what bishop actually does if I start to be in danger of getting lynched, but really I don't see how it benefits town to know, and it would definitely benefit scum. Do you think it's suspicious that spirityo didn't promote to bishop so we could compare our role and verify that neither of us is lying?
b. I don't think Kites is confirmed town for the same reason I'm not confirmed town in your eyes. I'm more confident in him than Iron_Dwarf though, by far.

My night actions are as follows:

1. TonyStark
2. JJJ, got Kites instead I believe
3. LongCon, got JJJ instead I believe
4. spirityo, failed
5 on is a new power

[speedchuck]

I'm going to need a significant reason to vote him over I_D, if not for reading purposes, then for the fact that I spent yesterday assailing Iron_Dwarf.

Do you think Kites/Kyle/Kenway are all town? I know you said you had a strong townread of Kenway, I can't figure out why

I was tone-reading Kenway as town earlier in the game. I've been so focused on other games that I haven't kept up on recent developments.

I think Kites could be scum.
Kylemii and Kenway: Do you think them being scum is dependent on each other? Since they supposedly have BTSC? What is your stance on that?

How do you feel about Iron_Dwarf?

[colonialbob]

everyone listed here is civ imo and wouldn’t lynch

rdw: his typical behavior p much. his vote/action points to promotion check out. if he is scum and received double life in the beginning i think he’d have tried harder to not become lynched since it would be a waste. also I dont think he wouldn’t have waited until night 7 to fakeclaim it

speedchuck: civ behavior really, can’t find anything rly bad despite trying hard

kenway: not that it would assure any of you, also i dont give a shit if you dont, but i simply think his posts are genuine. guys a civ who couldn’t keep up with the thread and post useful shit cos real life stuff. i might be wrong but I’d feel bad for voting him cos I don’t think he is scum and i hve played against scum kenway before. his vote/action points to promotion check out

kylemii: the problem is that his role doesn’t promote so he doesn’t have to lie about night actions if he’s scum. i liked his background search on my lost brother thingy. i have no reason to believe he is scum. also the ttownfirming epi thing, esp when he was suspected by many

gwilikers: it’s been proven he used his monk power = he didn’t promote in the beginning. next.

sprityo:

Spoiler: show

I really need you guys to focus in here cause we’ve lose basically any player willing enough to be active

Mafia are obviously scared and we are on their tail

Iron Dwarf, I don’t care if you want RDW Lynched now, the fact stands mafia killed Epi through my protect so one of the people with misdirects is at fault here

So the question begs is it Cbob or Nutella?

@colonialbob who was your target
@nutella who was your target?

You know, I kinda think you're scum. You claim to have targeted Epi every night, even though there have been much more attractive scum kill targets every night except for last night. Seems like an easy way to generate fake night action claims to me. And now with this post it looks like you're trying to set up our next two lynches. Plus, let's not forget that scum have already had a misdirector in Quin. And the first two lines of this post just seem very fake to me.

i think the doctor loop was clever but of course there must be a way to break it somehow. i’d say sprityo is civ based mostly on gaining epi’s trust in their btsc, it would be very difficult to lie convincingly to him in a private chat

Kites:

Spoiler: show

I’m confirmed civ deal with it

sprityo and anyone suspecting me

gwilly cleared me on night 3

This was my exact result btw: “**f*** *m ** - s*g”

I was drunk last night and working now so I haven’t put the slightest effort into decoding it. Have at it.

Soften 'em up. It corroborates I think Kites (?) who said they boosted sig's kill chance. I obviously didn't do that, so you were misdirected or something.

soften em up is an archer power so I hadn’t been promoted yet

a) promoted monk could def still have the PM power
b) the fact you think that PM result townclears you is laughable.

@gwilikers6 what have you been up to since you got Kites' PM?

a. Yeah, I can see why you would think that. It doesn't though. I'll reveal what bishop actually does if I start to be in danger of getting lynched, but really I don't see how it benefits town to know, and it would definitely benefit scum. Do you think it's suspicious that spirityo didn't promote to bishop so we could compare our role and verify that neither of us is lying?
b. I don't think Kites is confirmed town for the same reason I'm not confirmed town in your eyes. I'm more confident in him than Iron_Dwarf though, by far.

My night actions are as follows:

1. TonyStark
2. JJJ, got Kites instead I believe
3. LongCon, got JJJ instead I believe
4. spirityo, failed
5 on is a new power

I don't think sprit is suspicious because he wanted to maintain team trust buddies with Epi, and promoting to bishop put him at risk of losing his protect power.

[speedchuck]

@speedchuck do you think sig is town or mafia? How strongly?

Mafia. I'll put a percentage on it: 70%

Sure it's easy to read Sig as scum, but I see no barrier to doing so in this game, and he hasn't been accountable for his night actions. I don't buy that he hasn't submitted any. I think scum have a hybrid of their public and private roles or something, and Sig is contributing to the normal nightkill.

But that's all mechanical speculation. And other than that, I still struggle to read him as town.

[colonialbob]

I'm going to need a significant reason to vote him over I_D, if not for reading purposes, then for the fact that I spent yesterday assailing Iron_Dwarf.

Do you think Kites/Kyle/Kenway are all town? I know you said you had a strong townread of Kenway, I can't figure out why

I was tone-reading Kenway as town earlier in the game. I've been so focused on other games that I haven't kept up on recent developments.

I think Kites could be scum.
Kylemii and Kenway: Do you think them being scum is dependent on each other? Since they supposedly have BTSC? What is your stance on that?

How do you feel about Iron_Dwarf?

I don't feel like Kyle/Kenway are linked. I don't see why Kyle would out the BTSC if they were W/W.

I've bumped him up a bit on my list, but it's possible I'm falling for buddying. I've never liked his case on nutella.

speaking of [mention]nutella[/mention] please come out and vote

[colonialbob]

@speedchuck do you think sig is town or mafia? How strongly?

Mafia. I'll put a percentage on it: 70%

Sure it's easy to read Sig as scum, but I see no barrier to doing so in this game, and he hasn't been accountable for his night actions. I don't buy that he hasn't submitted any. I think scum have a hybrid of their public and private roles or something, and Sig is contributing to the normal nightkill.

But that's all mechanical speculation. And other than that, I still struggle to read him as town.

We haven't had many crit deaths though?

[speedchuck]

@speedchuck do you think sig is town or mafia? How strongly?

Mafia. I'll put a percentage on it: 70%

Sure it's easy to read Sig as scum, but I see no barrier to doing so in this game, and he hasn't been accountable for his night actions. I don't buy that he hasn't submitted any. I think scum have a hybrid of their public and private roles or something, and Sig is contributing to the normal nightkill.

But that's all mechanical speculation. And other than that, I still struggle to read him as town.

We haven't had many crit deaths though?

That's my point.

But maybe I don't understand the setup.

[speedchuck]

[mention]colonialbob[/mention] Why do you avoid any talk about Dwarf?

[speedchuck]

If Sig really does have a critical kill thing no matter what his alignment is, then it's probably more likely he's town. Scum wouldn't let him forget to use it.

[speedchuck]

20 minutes

[nutella]

oh hey eod is soon uhhhh I'm pretty torn between ID and kenway so someone give me a rundown?

[colonialbob]

@colonialbob Why do you avoid any talk about Dwarf?

I haven't, I said I bumped him up my list because I feel like he's trying to solve. He backed off me at a moment I felt I was still vulnerable (due to how the lap/RDW vote played out). It's possibly he's buddying me and I'm falling for it. Like I said, I've never liked his nutella case, which didn't make sense and was pushed consistently rather than engaging the thread.

[nutella]

ughh I'm still wary of bob but his behavior today is making me want to trust him

[colonialbob]

@colonialbob
take a look at the role list and you can see that no two roles have a power with a same name, the same goes for promoted roles. if even one person comes forward and says his/her promoted role has a power with the same name as the pre-promotion role did, I’m not cleared. But that ain’t happening

This is a really good point.

[speedchuck]

I'm going to spend like 5 minutes looking at Kenway's ISO

If I can find it

[speedchuck]

@colonialbob
take a look at the role list and you can see that no two roles have a power with a same name, the same goes for promoted roles. if even one person comes forward and says his/her promoted role has a power with the same name as the pre-promotion role did, I’m not cleared. But that ain’t happening

This is a really good point.

Explain it to me, because I have no idea what he means.

[gwilikers6]

We know from my role that Kites used the archer power "Soften 'em Up," and as far as we know, no promoted roles have the same power names as the unpromoted roles.

[colonialbob]

@colonialbob
take a look at the role list and you can see that no two roles have a power with a same name, the same goes for promoted roles. if even one person comes forward and says his/her promoted role has a power with the same name as the pre-promotion role did, I’m not cleared. But that ain’t happening

This is a really good point.

Explain it to me, because I have no idea what he means.

gwilikers got the result of (essentially) "soften him up - sig"

promoted roles don't have the same power names as their previous version. so either gwil and kites are w/w or kites is town.

[speedchuck]

We know from my role that Kites used the archer power "Soften 'em Up," and as far as we know, no promoted roles have the same power names as the unpromoted roles.

So because he promoted, he's town

because scum don't promote

yes?

[speedchuck]

Or there's a kidden mafia power called soften-em-up

[colonialbob]

We know from my role that Kites used the archer power "Soften 'em Up," and as far as we know, no promoted roles have the same power names as the unpromoted roles.

So because he promoted, he's town

because scum don't promote

yes?

Because that result was before any townies promoted, but scum all promoted before D1. So the fact that he had an unpromoted power name means he isn't scum.

[colonialbob]

Or there's a kidden mafia power called soften-em-up

doubtful, although there could be a mafia passive protecting them from the power or whatever. but at this point i'm willing to more or less townclear him for PoE purposes.

[speedchuck]

"A Tragic Loyalist - If you are lynched, all townies will be roleblocked the following night"

From the host post. Here's a named passive scum ability, right next to *secrets*

linki: Scum all promoted? What?

[Kylemii]

everyone listed here is civ imo and wouldn’t lynch

rdw: his typical behavior p much. his vote/action points to promotion check out. if he is scum and received double life in the beginning i think he’d have tried harder to not become lynched since it would be a waste. also I dont think he wouldn’t have waited until night 7 to fakeclaim it

speedchuck: civ behavior really, can’t find anything rly bad despite trying hard

kenway: not that it would assure any of you, also i dont give a shit if you dont, but i simply think his posts are genuine. guys a civ who couldn’t keep up with the thread and post useful shit cos real life stuff. i might be wrong but I’d feel bad for voting him cos I don’t think he is scum and i hve played against scum kenway before. his vote/action points to promotion check out

kylemii: the problem is that his role doesn’t promote so he doesn’t have to lie about night actions if he’s scum. i liked his background search on my lost brother thingy. i have no reason to believe he is scum. also the ttownfirming epi thing, esp when he was suspected by many

gwilikers: it’s been proven he used his monk power = he didn’t promote in the beginning. next.

sprityo:

Spoiler: show

I really need you guys to focus in here cause we’ve lose basically any player willing enough to be active

Mafia are obviously scared and we are on their tail

Iron Dwarf, I don’t care if you want RDW Lynched now, the fact stands mafia killed Epi through my protect so one of the people with misdirects is at fault here

So the question begs is it Cbob or Nutella?

@colonialbob who was your target
@nutella who was your target?

You know, I kinda think you're scum. You claim to have targeted Epi every night, even though there have been much more attractive scum kill targets every night except for last night. Seems like an easy way to generate fake night action claims to me. And now with this post it looks like you're trying to set up our next two lynches. Plus, let's not forget that scum have already had a misdirector in Quin. And the first two lines of this post just seem very fake to me.

i think the doctor loop was clever but of course there must be a way to break it somehow. i’d say sprityo is civ based mostly on gaining epi’s trust in their btsc, it would be very difficult to lie convincingly to him in a private chat

Kites:

Spoiler: show

I’m confirmed civ deal with it

sprityo and anyone suspecting me

gwilly cleared me on night 3

This was my exact result btw: “**f*** *m ** - s*g”

I was drunk last night and working now so I haven’t put the slightest effort into decoding it. Have at it.

Soften 'em up. It corroborates I think Kites (?) who said they boosted sig's kill chance. I obviously didn't do that, so you were misdirected or something.

soften em up is an archer power so I hadn’t been promoted yet

a) promoted monk could def still have the PM power
b) the fact you think that PM result townclears you is laughable.

@gwilikers6 what have you been up to since you got Kites' PM?

this is actually a valid point? though no one can confirm that promoted monk doesn't still have monk powers he did apparently snag Sig's pm. the only way he could ever fake that is if they were both mafia.

[speedchuck]

IDK. I'm not willing to just sit on that, but Kites isn't one of the ones up for lynch ATM.

[gwilikers6]

I've gotten 3 different people's PMs. Two confirmed town and Kites.

[colonialbob]

Scum team now promotes, dangerous bosses that they are. All scum players with roles that have split promotions, pm me which class you want to promote to.

I'm currently out to eat for a family birthday. I will send out background roles, background safeclaims and scum promoted roles this evening and we can start Day 1.

[mention]speedchuck[/mention]

[speedchuck]

Oh, cool

[gwilikers6]

And not only did I get Sig's PM, I was misdirected into getting Sig's PM.

[colonialbob]

Ok I'm feeling better on kites/gwil so I'm leaning towards voting ID actually.

[speedchuck]

Ok I'm feeling better on kites/gwil so I'm leaning towards voting ID actually.

What does that have to do with Kenway?

[nutella]

[VOTE: iron_dwarf] aubergine I've gone back and forth on him a few times but it's the best I've got

[colonialbob]

[VOTE: Iron Dwarf] aubergine before deadline

here goes nothing i suppose