Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:39 am
Linki: That’s not what I meant when I said “Tell me about that rumor.”
I’m not bad. Do you have reasons to think I might be?
I haven’t read any of your posts from before the last three or so pages so “not really.”
You have no thoughts on your accusers?
I don’t know who my accusers are. Do I even have accusers? I see Golden is back to voting for me, and Marmot parked a placeholder vote on me ages ago. Epi’s vote for me was dumb.
I just worked all night and am pooped. I don’t have the energy to dive into this thing right now, but I’ll be around to respond to things for at least a little while.
I see that dunya has called me “sloppy” and pointed to my Colin vote specifically. That’s been a common refrain. My vote for Colin is/was a pressure vote. I didn’t love that he offered a pre-emptive apology for his absence, but neglected to comment on anything in the time that he was here. I wanted him to say things. I believe he has said things now. I should look at them.
I feel like dunya should recognize a Day 1 pressure vote from me when she sees one.
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:59 pm
every game Dom has been in with me, he ended up being inactive so this is actually the first time I get to play with him and I'm not at all familiar with his meta. from what I have heard, this seems to be Dom being Dom.
But your vote is currently on him.
Weird how I was inactive and people discussed my meta.
I'll elaborate on this.
She's heard of my meta in games I never really played in? Really, my meta came up?
suspect af. who in btsc gave you an idea of my meta?
nah you were compared to other players to me in discord in the past when we were OT discussing prolific Syndicate mafia players.
Dom has been mentioned 142 times in Discord, and none of those were comparisons to you.
[VOTE:
dunya] aubergine
I find this super convincing.
But that's not what she even said? She said that Dom was compared to other players to her. I have had conversations with her in Discord about Dom myself. If Dunya gets lynched, let it be for something not fucking stupid.
sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:52 am
wolbre04 When you get the chance what do you think of the Golden, MP, Mac, and Dunya?
D1 is purely conjecture on my part until someone does something overly messy to me, but Golden and Mac seem to be interested in leading the pack and being outspoken
This is fine of course, but the later the game goes, the more I consider whether they are just leading us right into the fire
"The later the game goes the more I consider whether" means you are assured you will be around later to act on this seed.
And the fire is not dangerous if you cannot be led to it.
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:08 pm
Dunya was really helpful, but basically a neutral leaning town
dunya has not been helpful, and you two are teammates.
[VOTE:
wolbre04] aubergine
Dunham seems helpful to me and seems level headed. I just don't really understand your playstyle but then again, I'm not a veteran here. Not really sure why you jumped at me (?)
We are teammates, I'm sure she's town as well [VOTE:
Epignosis] aubergine
sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:52 am
wolbre04 When you get the chance what do you think of the Golden, MP, Mac, and Dunya?
D1 is purely conjecture on my part until someone does something overly messy to me, but Golden and Mac seem to be interested in leading the pack and being outspoken
This is fine of course, but the later the game goes, the more I consider whether they are just leading us right into the fire
"The later the game goes the more I consider whether" means you are assured you will be around later to act on this seed.
And the fire is not dangerous if you cannot be led to it.
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:08 pm
Dunya was really helpful, but basically a neutral leaning town
dunya has not been helpful, and you two are teammates.
[VOTE:
wolbre04] aubergine
Dunham seems helpful to me and seems level headed. I just don't really understand your playstyle but then again, I'm not a veteran here. Not really sure why you jumped at me (?)
We are teammates, I'm sure she's town as well [VOTE:
Epignosis] aubergine
Jack and Mac are standing out as town, they're making moves in the right direction. Glad jack appeared or I would've been willing to lynch him potentially later
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:59 pm
every game Dom has been in with me, he ended up being inactive so this is actually the first time I get to play with him and I'm not at all familiar with his meta. from what I have heard, this seems to be Dom being Dom.
But your vote is currently on him.
Weird how I was inactive and people discussed my meta.
I'll elaborate on this.
She's heard of my meta in games I never really played in? Really, my meta came up?
suspect af. who in btsc gave you an idea of my meta?
nah you were compared to other players to me in discord in the past when we were OT discussing prolific Syndicate mafia players.
Dom has been mentioned 142 times in Discord, and none of those were comparisons to you.
[VOTE:
dunya] aubergine
I'm pretty sure Dom has been discussed publicly, but the 2 conversations that I recall the most were actually in private chat. I don't care how that looks, I wouldn't have called on someone else if I was lying. and if you think I'd lie about this, then I don't really care about your opinion on what dunya could or couldn't do because you clearly don't know me then. I do appreciate the effort though.
I will say, being a high poster and all, I am always a threat to the scum team so keep an eye on people who latch onto opportunities to get me lynched. This smells like early days in MK when people began saying I'm bad because "she mislynched sig" but here it's "she scumslipped about Dom". if ya'll mislynch me a second time about something so stupid, I'll throw shit.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:26 pm
what are the specific aspects of Dom that make Dom "Dom"
he is a very "in your face" kinda player, who can push some buttons à la Ricochet, Epignosis, MacDougall, and can be hard to communicate with because he's forceful with his opinions, also like the three I mentioned in various amounts.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:14 am
I see that dunya has called me “sloppy” and pointed to my Colin vote specifically. That’s been a common refrain. My vote for Colin is/was a pressure vote. I didn’t love that he offered a pre-emptive apology for his absence, but neglected to comment on anything in the time that he was here. I wanted him to say things. I believe he has said things now. I should look at them.
I feel like dunya should recognize a Day 1 pressure vote from me when she sees one.
I do, I do them myself, but I wasn't sure how I felt about you calling your own post hypocritical. Actually, I didn't like it. I wouldn't do that.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:54 pm
which might be a cause for a false negative (positive?) on the supertown dunya barometer
I don't understand this part of your post. Please explain.
mmmm okay well imagine you're jogging with Lance Armstrong or some other famous runner who is famous for running really good, but you know Lance Armstrong broke both his knees in a running accident 6 months ago, so he's been sorta like, off of running for a while I guess. cus of his broken knees and the related stress
You'd wanna ask "hey Lance, how're your knees my dude, do you still enjoy track and field sports", especially in the very specific circumstance where you're cooperating/competing with Lance Armstrong in some sort of competition game where judging his running skill and speed is a factor.
if Lance was like "yo I'm pumped for some sprinting let's fucking run some triathlons" and then ran 84 miles in 2 days then that would mean something different to me than if Lance ran 84 miles while still being in kind of a funk about the whole broken knees thing. does that make sense?
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:59 pm
every game Dom has been in with me, he ended up being inactive so this is actually the first time I get to play with him and I'm not at all familiar with his meta. from what I have heard, this seems to be Dom being Dom.
But your vote is currently on him.
Weird how I was inactive and people discussed my meta.
I'll elaborate on this.
She's heard of my meta in games I never really played in? Really, my meta came up?
suspect af. who in btsc gave you an idea of my meta?
nah you were compared to other players to me in discord in the past when we were OT discussing prolific Syndicate mafia players.
Dom has been mentioned 142 times in Discord, and none of those were comparisons to you.
[VOTE:
dunya] aubergine
I find this super convincing.
That s not what she said Epi. She said that someone has had a conversation with her on discord in which the comparison between Dom and other were made. The "to me" meant, it was said to me. Not that Dom was compared to other players and compared to her.
I don't think she would have called on me to verify this had happened if she was making shit up. It would only make sense to do that if I were on her team and were to immediately come in and say yes, can confirm. Which is not what happened here at all. I can't recall the conversation but she and I have had many conversations since we met and it would not surprise me one bit if we had such a conversation. And frequently our conversations are in between just she and I, by DM. So you can't say unequivocally this conversation did not occur. I can't say I recall the exact conversation she is referring to, but I believe she is telling the truth because it's the only way her request to me makes any sense. I think this is a load of bullcrap case personally.
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:59 pm
every game Dom has been in with me, he ended up being inactive so this is actually the first time I get to play with him and I'm not at all familiar with his meta. from what I have heard, this seems to be Dom being Dom.
But your vote is currently on him.
Weird how I was inactive and people discussed my meta.
I'll elaborate on this.
She's heard of my meta in games I never really played in? Really, my meta came up?
suspect af. who in btsc gave you an idea of my meta?
nah you were compared to other players to me in discord in the past when we were OT discussing prolific Syndicate mafia players.
Dom has been mentioned 142 times in Discord, and none of those were comparisons to you.
[VOTE:
dunya] aubergine
I've been mentioned 2,764 times.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:54 pm
which might be a cause for a false negative (positive?) on the supertown dunya barometer
I don't understand this part of your post. Please explain.
mmmm okay well imagine you're jogging with Lance Armstrong or some other famous runner who is famous for running really good, but you know Lance Armstrong broke both his knees in a running accident 6 months ago, so he's been sorta like, off of running for a while I guess. cus of his broken knees and the related stress
You'd wanna ask "hey Lance, how're your knees my dude, do you still enjoy track and field sports", especially in the very specific circumstance where you're cooperating/competing with Lance Armstrong in some sort of competition game where judging his running skill and speed is a factor.
ok, I think I understand.
after the backlash I received in Mountains, Vocaroo, FE...etc. for my post counts and some not so nice things said about me offtopic, I did feel burned out and just generally put off playing. I guess I felt upset rather than angry because it really isn't something that I can easily control without feeling awkward and limited, and it upset me because I can actually understand how my playstyle could make playing less fun for others and I don't want that at all. While I'm still a high poster here, I think I've chosen my posts wisely and tried hard not to overwhelm the thread and be concise. It helps there's several high posters who have made a lot of the same posts I would so I don't feel like anyone is flying under the radar and I'm not solely responsible for generating content. I'm trying to be considerate and also make this enjoyable for me and others. and also, the put out feeling was real and I don't want to feel like that again post game or in game ever again, because it's a lousy feeling. I am still giving this game my 100%, just in a slightly different way.
Dunya, sucks that you ended up feeling that way. It’s a struggle we always have here, posting ratios, and all of us high posters have gone through similar emotions I think.
Epi, who else is bad other than dunya? I don’t buy that dunya is good for the dom thing but I don’t buy that it makes her bad either. You’ve essentially said there is zero need for you to make any other read. But what if dunya was immune today, what would you do then?
Don't like either lynch candidate. Epignosis isn't going to be playing this way as Mafia. Dunya seems like MK Dunya who I helped mislynch. Let's lynch Nova please.
I don’t love either candidate either at this point, but prefer epi to dunya. Dunya gets more town to me the longer things go. My view of Epi is basically constant.
I’ll never use the line “Epignosis isn’t going to be playing this way as mafia” though. If there’s anyone who will play the way he ‘isn’t going to play as mafia’ as mafia, it’s epi.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:39 am
How many times has Epi been lynched day 1?
How many times has Epi been lynched day 1 as Mafia?
How many times has Epi actually been lynched as Mafia at all?
Is this line of thinking exactly why Epi doesn't get lynched as Mafia?
Have I wifomed myself into a wofim?
These are all fair points. I’d say epi lives in a pretty similar place to me on that scale - if taking genuine heat on day one, it’s probably wrong.
What do you think of Sloonei? Do you know much of Nova?
I have little opinion of Sloonei. Which is interesting I suppose. Makes me think he might be putting his genuine effort in someplace else ... LIKE A SCUM BTSC.
I have played a bit with Nova but meta has nothing to do with it. Just think Nova is the best lynch tbh.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:39 am
How many times has Epi been lynched day 1?
How many times has Epi been lynched day 1 as Mafia?
How many times has Epi actually been lynched as Mafia at all?
Is this line of thinking exactly why Epi doesn't get lynched as Mafia?
Have I wifomed myself into a wofim?
These are all fair points. I’d say epi lives in a pretty similar place to me on that scale - if taking genuine heat on day one, it’s probably wrong.
What do you think of Sloonei? Do you know much of Nova?
I have little opinion of Sloonei. Which is interesting I suppose. Makes me think he might be putting his genuine effort in someplace else ... LIKE A SCUM BTSC.
I have played a bit with Nova but meta has nothing to do with it. Just think Nova is the best lynch tbh.
There are two reasons I don't day one vote someone I've never played with before. One is to be polite. The other is because I don't believe I can meaningfully read them within one phase. So I won't join you on nova.
But I do think I've seen (I know, irony alert) sincerity in Nova, and I like that. And I wonder if your view on nova would be the same if you had the opposite opinion of MP and sig's initial posts that triggered nova's questions?
Both wagons are horrible, epi is playing within his civ meta this is day 1 epi.
The dunya scimslip is unrealistic plus there are other forms of btsc than scum chat.
I'd like everyone to look over Dom especially after his push that dunya scumslipped.
sig wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:11 am
Both wagons are horrible, epi is playing within his civ meta this is day 1 epi.
The dunya scimslip is unrealistic plus there are other forms of btsc than scum chat.
I'd like everyone to look over Dom especially after his push that dunya scumslipped.
Dom hasn’t really pushed it - if anyone has, that person is Epi...
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:28 pm
But your vote is currently on him.
Weird how I was inactive and people discussed my meta.
I'll elaborate on this.
She's heard of my meta in games I never really played in? Really, my meta came up?
suspect af. who in btsc gave you an idea of my meta?
nah you were compared to other players to me in discord in the past when we were OT discussing prolific Syndicate mafia players.
Dom has been mentioned 142 times in Discord, and none of those were comparisons to you.
[VOTE:
dunya] aubergine
I find this super convincing.
But that's not what she even said? She said that Dom was compared to other players to her. I have had conversations with her in Discord about Dom myself. If Dunya gets lynched, let it be for something not fucking stupid.
I was being sarcastic. I think it’s a dumb accusation and that’s part of why I’m voting Epi.
Are you concerned or do you just want a baddie dead? I ask because reasons.
I am concerned about the risk inherent in a lynch, given that a Civvie could die. This concern is linked to my desire to see all baddies dead. Not sure how to answer your choice statement, because I see it as non-dichotomous.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:25 am
Is there more to the dunya case than that nonsense?
I have found much of her day 1 talk to be suspicious. I was going to vote for her before her claim that she got Dom meta knowledge enough to use in a game.
Are you concerned or do you just want a baddie dead? I ask because reasons.
I am concerned about the risk inherent in a lynch, given that a Civvie could die. This concern is linked to my desire to see all baddies dead. Not sure how to answer your choice statement, because I see it as non-dichotomous.
There's so much going on here, I'm having trouble getting a read on anyone at this point. But here's where I'm at right now: Dunya feels genuine to me, and as was mentioned before, the fact that she's added so much to the thread gives her a civvie vibe. It would make total sense for Persians to lead a lynch against Dunya on day one. To them, she's a threat, and getting her out of the game early gives them an advantage.
With that said, I'm still hesitant to place a vote right now. I'll check back in later.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:28 pm
But your vote is currently on him.
Weird how I was inactive and people discussed my meta.
I'll elaborate on this.
She's heard of my meta in games I never really played in? Really, my meta came up?
suspect af. who in btsc gave you an idea of my meta?
nah you were compared to other players to me in discord in the past when we were OT discussing prolific Syndicate mafia players.
Dom has been mentioned 142 times in Discord, and none of those were comparisons to you.
[VOTE:
dunya] aubergine
I find this super convincing.
But that's not what she even said? She said that Dom was compared to other players to her. I have had conversations with her in Discord about Dom myself. If Dunya gets lynched, let it be for something not fucking stupid.
That conversation must have been wild.
sig wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:11 am
Both wagons are horrible, epi is playing within his civ meta this is day 1 epi.
The dunya scimslip is unrealistic plus there are other forms of btsc than scum chat.
I'd like everyone to look over Dom especially after his push that dunya scumslipped.
Epi lays low as scum, sure, but he's useful as town. Game has actually been going for less than 24 hours, finals for schoolteachers are approaching, etc. Epi hasn't been super active this weekend either, and has had company if I remember right.
I'm not going to lay a lazy vote on Epi for activity, and I caution against wasting your time with it today.
If I need an apologist, I'll attain an honest one.
[VOTE:
speedchuck] aubergine
Explain night vale, or give me a different scum game to suggest differently.
sig wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:11 am
Both wagons are horrible, epi is playing within his civ meta this is day 1 epi.
The dunya scimslip is unrealistic plus there are other forms of btsc than scum chat.
I'd like everyone to look over Dom especially after his push that dunya scumslipped.
Dom hasn’t really pushed it - if anyone has, that person is Epi...
He was the first one to bring it up correct?
Also i don't like wolbre vote its very No u onto epi. I also don't like how he's playing the new player card.
[VOTE:
nova ] aubergine the case on them is uninspiring and honestly i can't tell their alignment, but I'd rather we not lynch epi or dunya and novq has from my memory coasted through entire games as mafia on NF.
sig wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:58 am[VOTE:
nova ] aubergine the case on them is uninspiring and honestly i can't tell their alignment, but I'd rather we not lynch epi or dunya and novq has from my memory coasted through entire games as mafia on NF.
You don't have to 'settle' yet. We have 9 hours to find another road to go down.
sig wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:58 am[VOTE:
nova ] aubergine the case on them is uninspiring and honestly i can't tell their alignment, but I'd rather we not lynch epi or dunya and novq has from my memory coasted through entire games as mafia on NF.
You don't have to 'settle' yet. We have 9 hours to find another road to go down.
My activity is going to probably be non-existent today so I'm in a bit of a rush to get my vote somewhere that I'm comfortable with.
Though i still find dom and to a lesser extent mp suspicious.
If you know me so well, you won't need my curriculum vitae.
I usually expect you to either make definitive town reads or grab potential scummies by the tail and shake them until their defenses are spent. In this game you've voted like 5 different people in 15 posts, and each vote has had very little oomph to it. I don't know what to do with that.
Pleh I was going to look through your scumgames but all you did was link the hall of fame. That's a lot of trouble. I'd rather just take the word of the number of people that said I was wrong about you being a lower poster as scum.
sig wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:58 am[VOTE:
nova ] aubergine the case on them is uninspiring and honestly i can't tell their alignment, but I'd rather we not lynch epi or dunya and novq has from my memory coasted through entire games as mafia on NF.
You don't have to 'settle' yet. We have 9 hours to find another road to go down.
My activity is going to probably be non-existent today so I'm in a bit of a rush to get my vote somewhere that I'm comfortable with.
Though i still find dom and to a lesser extent mp suspicious.
I read over Nova's posts and have zero reason to be comfy with a nova vote.
I’m not bad. Do you have reasons to think I might be?
I do appreciate the effort though.
