Ancient Greece Mafia [CONQUEST]

[Scotty]

It is very suspicious.

What’s not suspicious is his interaction with Colin. That’s why I backed off

[Spacedaisy]

I am still ISOing.

Also, it doesn't look like it was because of anyone defending him, it just dropped.

[wolbre04]

I have speed as a town read, if I don't lynch him that makes me look bad

civs don't worry about looking bad, they worry about finding baddies. U Bad wolbre?

Yes

My point was that bc he was a town read for me, if I vote him it looks like bussing but idc at this point

[Spacedaisy]

I have speed as a town read, if I don't lynch him that makes me look bad

civs don't worry about looking bad, they worry about finding baddies. U Bad wolbre?

Yes

My point was that bc he was a town read for me, if I vote him it looks like bussing but idc at this point

If you're civ, vote for who you suspect, consequences be damned. Civ's suspicions develop and change naturally. Is he a town read for you now or not? Are you voting him because you suspect him or just because someone is trying to tell you to? Also who is the he we are talking about? I've lost track...

[wolbre04]

I have speed as a town read, if I don't lynch him that makes me look bad

civs don't worry about looking bad, they worry about finding baddies. U Bad wolbre?

Yes

My point was that bc he was a town read for me, if I vote him it looks like bussing but idc at this point

If you're civ, vote for who you suspect, consequences be damned. Civ's suspicions develop and change naturally. Is he a town read for you now or not? Are you voting him because you suspect him or just because someone is trying to tell you to? Also who is the he we are talking about? I've lost track...

I'm voting him because other people want us to so I'm doing it to help who I perceive as potential town leaders I suppose
He's still a town read
He is "SC"

[Spacedaisy]

speedchuck, ok. Why do you read him as town? I'm still ISOing, I haven't decided yet.

[Choutas]

Reading the latest developments I think Chuck is the safest choice to flip scum.
/vote chuck

[Spacedaisy]

which developments?

[wolbre04]

speedchuck, ok. Why do you read him as town? I'm still ISOing, I haven't decided yet.

I think several of the points people are pinning him for seem pretty floppy

[Choutas]

The jack vs chuck incident is the best thing that has happened on day five unless somebody offers a better case I'm going for it. The two are linked and can't both be scum so I'll follow my gut and support Chuck in lynching scumchuck.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: nova] aubergine

Won't be around much before EoD, so voting there now.

[Spacedaisy]

Kyle I see literally nothing in Speedchuck's interactions with Colin that I feel are in his defense. He never once gave a case for why he was voting Colin. He never even quoted someone else's case and said, "This looks like a good point." In fact some of his posts look a bit like he could be trying to subtly push off of Colin imo.

Conversation is already going around Colin, and Speedchuck does a case on Epi. Speedchuck was pointing at Epi before this though, and I don't know where that all fell in the Colin stuff.

Spoiler: show

Epi's posts with content:

I should let you all know that I just started a new job so I have less time overall right now, and if it seems like I'm lurking, I more than likely just haven't seen the thread yet.

I'm gonna [VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine because he dropped this post and then left. The thread wasn't bustling with activity at the time, but there was enough going on that he could have offered a comment or two on something. I want Colin to say things when he has a chance.

I woke up to ~300 new posts and I have some grown up things to take care of before I go to work today. I sense that I'll be playing from behind early in this game.

Sloonei thinks his shield is bigger than Colin's shield.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

This looks good at first glance. But Sloonei has given us stuff to work with already, even popping in this time. His point stands. But don't worry, Epi won't pursue this.

wolbre04 When you get the chance what do you think of the Golden, MP, Mac, and Dunya?

D1 is purely conjecture on my part until someone does something overly messy to me, but Golden and Mac seem to be interested in leading the pack and being outspoken
This is fine of course, but the later the game goes, the more I consider whether they are just leading us right into the fire

"The later the game goes the more I consider whether" means you are assured you will be around later to act on this seed.

And the fire is not dangerous if you cannot be led to it.

Dunya was really helpful, but basically a neutral leaning town

dunya has not been helpful, and you two are teammates.

[VOTE: wolbre04] aubergine

Epi gets onto wolbre for thinking he might survive the day. He also advises wolbre not to be led so easily, which... wolbre was already commenting on.
Then Epi makes a herculean leap in logic. If Epi's reason for Wolbre being bad is tied to Dunya, why not lynch Dunya instead of the newbie who won't put up a fight?
What ARE Epi's reasons for voting wolbre in the first place?

Don't worry, Epi won't pursue this.

If.

Not really lynch worthy though is it?

I concur.

Epi lays low as scum, sure, but he's useful as town. Game has actually been going for less than 24 hours, finals for schoolteachers are approaching, etc. Epi hasn't been super active this weekend either, and has had company if I remember right.

I'm not going to lay a lazy vote on Epi for activity, and I caution against wasting your time with it today.

If I need an apologist, I'll attain an honest one.

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

Other people have said I was wrong here already. Still waiting for proof to contradict what I've seen and heard. I'm not worried though. I don't think Epi will pursue this. (Although now that I'm being antagonistic, he might.)

every game Dom has been in with me, he ended up being inactive so this is actually the first time I get to play with him and I'm not at all familiar with his meta. from what I have heard, this seems to be Dom being Dom.

Citation needed.

I guess this is content? People might be nitpicky about its absence, so I included it. I have no reason to believe Epi will pursue this, and I honestly don't think it's a scumslip. It doesn't make sense as one.

Here, he would vote Sloonei over Colin, but don't worry guys, he still suspects Colin... but what about Quin??

Spoiler: show

@MacDougall Do you still want votes piled on ColinisCool?

What do you want?

If he's still doing a thing, I want to help.

If not, and I wanted to consolidate, I'd vote Sloonei. I suspect Sloon more than Colin. (though I do suspect Colin, or I wouldn't be asking)

But what I really want to do is start some entirely new votes since we're only a fourth of the way through the day. I'd probably start with @Quin. My Quindar has not given me the genu-Quin townread yet, and I usually get that as soon as he starts posting.

Than he just votes Colin. No explanation. Prodded by his wife for not voting yet, and he tosses it on Colin.

Spoiler: show

@speedchuck , I'm surprised you haven't placed a vote yet today. Who do you suspect?

Coliniscool, Sloonei, Quin... and I could probably find some others with an ISO.

I have plenty of time to place my vote, and I've been waiting for Mac to come back so I could pry about his 'plan.' But I'll go ahead and vote for colin anyway.
[VOTE: coliniscool] aubergine

I don't like the look overall.

Explain to me Kyle what about it gives you a town vibe?

[Spacedaisy]

speedchuck, ok. Why do you read him as town? I'm still ISOing, I haven't decided yet.

I think several of the points people are pinning him for seem pretty floppy

I'm fresh to this stuff, which people and what points seem floppy? And what exactly does floppy mean? Like flimsy, don't stand up or hold weight? Or like, flip flopping, they've changed?

[Spacedaisy]

I'm comfortable with Speedchuck or Nova lynch today. Speedchuckk heavily defended Nova. It could mean he either knew too much and was defending someone he knew was civ or it could possibly be defending a teammate.

[Kylemii]

Kyle I see literally nothing in Speedchuck's interactions with Colin that I feel are in his defense. He never once gave a case for why he was voting Colin. He never even quoted someone else's case and said, "This looks like a good point." In fact some of his posts look a bit like he could be trying to subtly push off of Colin imo.

Conversation is already going around Colin, and Speedchuck does a case on Epi. Speedchuck was pointing at Epi before this though, and I don't know where that all fell in the Colin stuff.

Spoiler: show

Epi's posts with content:

I should let you all know that I just started a new job so I have less time overall right now, and if it seems like I'm lurking, I more than likely just haven't seen the thread yet.

I'm gonna [VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine because he dropped this post and then left. The thread wasn't bustling with activity at the time, but there was enough going on that he could have offered a comment or two on something. I want Colin to say things when he has a chance.

I woke up to ~300 new posts and I have some grown up things to take care of before I go to work today. I sense that I'll be playing from behind early in this game.

Sloonei thinks his shield is bigger than Colin's shield.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

This looks good at first glance. But Sloonei has given us stuff to work with already, even popping in this time. His point stands. But don't worry, Epi won't pursue this.

wolbre04 When you get the chance what do you think of the Golden, MP, Mac, and Dunya?

D1 is purely conjecture on my part until someone does something overly messy to me, but Golden and Mac seem to be interested in leading the pack and being outspoken
This is fine of course, but the later the game goes, the more I consider whether they are just leading us right into the fire

"The later the game goes the more I consider whether" means you are assured you will be around later to act on this seed.

And the fire is not dangerous if you cannot be led to it.

Dunya was really helpful, but basically a neutral leaning town

dunya has not been helpful, and you two are teammates.

[VOTE: wolbre04] aubergine

Epi gets onto wolbre for thinking he might survive the day. He also advises wolbre not to be led so easily, which... wolbre was already commenting on.
Then Epi makes a herculean leap in logic. If Epi's reason for Wolbre being bad is tied to Dunya, why not lynch Dunya instead of the newbie who won't put up a fight?
What ARE Epi's reasons for voting wolbre in the first place?

Don't worry, Epi won't pursue this.

If.

Not really lynch worthy though is it?

I concur.

Epi lays low as scum, sure, but he's useful as town. Game has actually been going for less than 24 hours, finals for schoolteachers are approaching, etc. Epi hasn't been super active this weekend either, and has had company if I remember right.

I'm not going to lay a lazy vote on Epi for activity, and I caution against wasting your time with it today.

If I need an apologist, I'll attain an honest one.

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

Other people have said I was wrong here already. Still waiting for proof to contradict what I've seen and heard. I'm not worried though. I don't think Epi will pursue this. (Although now that I'm being antagonistic, he might.)

every game Dom has been in with me, he ended up being inactive so this is actually the first time I get to play with him and I'm not at all familiar with his meta. from what I have heard, this seems to be Dom being Dom.

Citation needed.

I guess this is content? People might be nitpicky about its absence, so I included it. I have no reason to believe Epi will pursue this, and I honestly don't think it's a scumslip. It doesn't make sense as one.

Here, he would vote Sloonei over Colin, but don't worry guys, he still suspects Colin... but what about Quin??

Spoiler: show

@MacDougall Do you still want votes piled on ColinisCool?

What do you want?

If he's still doing a thing, I want to help.

If not, and I wanted to consolidate, I'd vote Sloonei. I suspect Sloon more than Colin. (though I do suspect Colin, or I wouldn't be asking)

But what I really want to do is start some entirely new votes since we're only a fourth of the way through the day. I'd probably start with @Quin. My Quindar has not given me the genu-Quin townread yet, and I usually get that as soon as he starts posting.

Than he just votes Colin. No explanation. Prodded by his wife for not voting yet, and he tosses it on Colin.

Spoiler: show

@speedchuck , I'm surprised you haven't placed a vote yet today. Who do you suspect?

Coliniscool, Sloonei, Quin... and I could probably find some others with an ISO.

I have plenty of time to place my vote, and I've been waiting for Mac to come back so I could pry about his 'plan.' But I'll go ahead and vote for colin anyway.
[VOTE: coliniscool] aubergine

I don't like the look overall.

Explain to me Kyle what about it gives you a town vibe?

i think you're confusing me with someone else

[Turnip Head]

Kyleyuu

[Kylemii]

[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] I think you're confusing me with wolbre.

[Spacedaisy]

Kyle I see literally nothing in Speedchuck's interactions with Colin that I feel are in his defense. He never once gave a case for why he was voting Colin. He never even quoted someone else's case and said, "This looks like a good point." In fact some of his posts look a bit like he could be trying to subtly push off of Colin imo.

Conversation is already going around Colin, and Speedchuck does a case on Epi. Speedchuck was pointing at Epi before this though, and I don't know where that all fell in the Colin stuff.

Spoiler: show

Epi's posts with content:

I should let you all know that I just started a new job so I have less time overall right now, and if it seems like I'm lurking, I more than likely just haven't seen the thread yet.

I'm gonna [VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine because he dropped this post and then left. The thread wasn't bustling with activity at the time, but there was enough going on that he could have offered a comment or two on something. I want Colin to say things when he has a chance.

I woke up to ~300 new posts and I have some grown up things to take care of before I go to work today. I sense that I'll be playing from behind early in this game.

Sloonei thinks his shield is bigger than Colin's shield.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

This looks good at first glance. But Sloonei has given us stuff to work with already, even popping in this time. His point stands. But don't worry, Epi won't pursue this.

wolbre04 When you get the chance what do you think of the Golden, MP, Mac, and Dunya?

D1 is purely conjecture on my part until someone does something overly messy to me, but Golden and Mac seem to be interested in leading the pack and being outspoken
This is fine of course, but the later the game goes, the more I consider whether they are just leading us right into the fire

"The later the game goes the more I consider whether" means you are assured you will be around later to act on this seed.

And the fire is not dangerous if you cannot be led to it.

Dunya was really helpful, but basically a neutral leaning town

dunya has not been helpful, and you two are teammates.

[VOTE: wolbre04] aubergine

Epi gets onto wolbre for thinking he might survive the day. He also advises wolbre not to be led so easily, which... wolbre was already commenting on.
Then Epi makes a herculean leap in logic. If Epi's reason for Wolbre being bad is tied to Dunya, why not lynch Dunya instead of the newbie who won't put up a fight?
What ARE Epi's reasons for voting wolbre in the first place?

Don't worry, Epi won't pursue this.

If.

Not really lynch worthy though is it?

I concur.

Epi lays low as scum, sure, but he's useful as town. Game has actually been going for less than 24 hours, finals for schoolteachers are approaching, etc. Epi hasn't been super active this weekend either, and has had company if I remember right.

I'm not going to lay a lazy vote on Epi for activity, and I caution against wasting your time with it today.

If I need an apologist, I'll attain an honest one.

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

Other people have said I was wrong here already. Still waiting for proof to contradict what I've seen and heard. I'm not worried though. I don't think Epi will pursue this. (Although now that I'm being antagonistic, he might.)

every game Dom has been in with me, he ended up being inactive so this is actually the first time I get to play with him and I'm not at all familiar with his meta. from what I have heard, this seems to be Dom being Dom.

Citation needed.

I guess this is content? People might be nitpicky about its absence, so I included it. I have no reason to believe Epi will pursue this, and I honestly don't think it's a scumslip. It doesn't make sense as one.

Here, he would vote Sloonei over Colin, but don't worry guys, he still suspects Colin... but what about Quin??

Spoiler: show

@MacDougall Do you still want votes piled on ColinisCool?

What do you want?

If he's still doing a thing, I want to help.

If not, and I wanted to consolidate, I'd vote Sloonei. I suspect Sloon more than Colin. (though I do suspect Colin, or I wouldn't be asking)

But what I really want to do is start some entirely new votes since we're only a fourth of the way through the day. I'd probably start with @Quin. My Quindar has not given me the genu-Quin townread yet, and I usually get that as soon as he starts posting.

Than he just votes Colin. No explanation. Prodded by his wife for not voting yet, and he tosses it on Colin.

Spoiler: show

@speedchuck , I'm surprised you haven't placed a vote yet today. Who do you suspect?

Coliniscool, Sloonei, Quin... and I could probably find some others with an ISO.

I have plenty of time to place my vote, and I've been waiting for Mac to come back so I could pry about his 'plan.' But I'll go ahead and vote for colin anyway.
[VOTE: coliniscool] aubergine

I don't like the look overall.

Explain to me Kyle what about it gives you a town vibe?

i think you're confusing me with someone else

Ah, yes I kind of meshed up what you said to me and what Scotty said to me.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@speedchuck why pick out a defined number of scum? That sounds like the opposite of what a GTH read list is supposed to be: spontaneous

Scotty got the answer way back when. Scotty is Civ.

Eyyyyyyy and yet I remember at least 2 people calling that not suspicious and it was basically dropped. I forgot who defended him

Me. Cause he’s my scum buddy. String him up.

[Kylemii]

6 players haven't voted yet

[Spacedaisy]

@speedchuck why pick out a defined number of scum? That sounds like the opposite of what a GTH read list is supposed to be: spontaneous

Scotty got the answer way back when. Scotty is Civ.

Eyyyyyyy and yet I remember at least 2 people calling that not suspicious and it was basically dropped. I forgot who defended him

Me. Cause he’s my scum buddy. String him up.

What? I saw no such defense unless it came much later.

You think Speed is town Jack?

[Kylemii]

.......................

[Kylemii]

remember the old days when people would get accused and then voted for and then they'd show up and defend themselves and it would be like this whole thing that would just happen? it was like some kind of cool game thing

whatever happened to that

[Spacedaisy]

Didn't that literally just happen with me.... ?

[Turnip Head]

remember the old days when people would get accused and then voted for and then they'd show up and defend themselves and it would be like this whole thing that would just happen? it was like some kind of cool game thing

whatever happened to that

Remember when you had to walk into blockbuster to pick the movie you wanted to watch

[Kylemii]

Didn't that literally just happen with me.... ?

yeah and i guess it was cool and everything but like.... it seems like a lot of the time now people get lynched now after just like not being around

i miss the whole "hey don't lynch me, heres some reasons why i'm good and also heeres some reasons to lynch this other guy instead" thing, i miss the 90's

how am i supposed to know who's reacting to dying properly without them showing up to reactt

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention] [mention]speedchuck[/mention] [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]

what're u doing

[wolbre04]

remember the old days when people would get accused and then voted for and then they'd show up and defend themselves and it would be like this whole thing that would just happen? it was like some kind of cool game thing

whatever happened to that

Remember when you had to walk into blockbuster to pick the movie you wanted to watch

Or go to Walgreens with your film capsule

[Kylemii]

remember the old days when people would get accused and then voted for and then they'd show up and defend themselves and it would be like this whole thing that would just happen? it was like some kind of cool game thing

whatever happened to that

Remember when you had to walk into blockbuster to pick the movie you wanted to watch

remember when you could pay $12 to rent mario party 64 for an entire day and get m&m's half price?

[Turnip Head]

Didn't that literally just happen with me.... ?

yeah and i guess it was cool and everything but like.... it seems like a lot of the time now people get lynched now after just like not being around

i miss the whole "hey don't lynch me, heres some reasons why i'm good and also heeres some reasons to lynch this other guy instead" thing, i miss the 90's

how am i supposed to know who's reacting to dying properly without them showing up to reactt

@novaselinenever @speedchuck @Jackofhearts2005

what're u doing

Yeah it's pretty anticlimactic

I had high hopes too

[colonialbob]

Sorry folks I ended up making last minute plans after working today and only just remembered this is ending soon.

I don't love any of these trains but I admit I was mostly poking Jack to see how he'd react. I feel his reactions were fairly townie.

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

[novaselinenever]

Didn't that literally just happen with me.... ?

yeah and i guess it was cool and everything but like.... it seems like a lot of the time now people get lynched now after just like not being around

i miss the whole "hey don't lynch me, heres some reasons why i'm good and also heeres some reasons to lynch this other guy instead" thing, i miss the 90's

how am i supposed to know who's reacting to dying properly without them showing up to reactt

@novaselinenever @speedchuck @Jackofhearts2005

what're u doing

I already defended myself and I'll keep doing it. I don't know why Marmot is voting me up, but Daisy is doing a big OMGUS and playing the victim card. She isn't a low-hanging fruit and she's making my whole accusation against her about meta and since I only played 1 game with her beforehand, I can't possibly think she's bad, so I must be bad.

[Kylemii]

hnnnng it's quiet

[Kylemii]

too quiet

[Turnip Head]

I dont suspect nova at all tbh, hes all good in my book

I'm bored

Why arent we lynching jack or chucky

[Turnip Head]

Actually just jack

Plz

[Kylemii]

oh my god

[Kylemii]

the poll ends tomorrow i thought it ended today, no wonder no one's heere

[colonialbob]

the poll ends tomorrow i thought it ended today, no wonder no one's heere

Lol oh me too

Good I can actually pay attention tomorrow

[Jackofhearts2005]

@speedchuck why pick out a defined number of scum? That sounds like the opposite of what a GTH read list is supposed to be: spontaneous

Scotty got the answer way back when. Scotty is Civ.

Eyyyyyyy and yet I remember at least 2 people calling that not suspicious and it was basically dropped. I forgot who defended him

Me. Cause he’s my scum buddy. String him up.

What? I saw no such defense unless it came much later.

You think Speed is town Jack?

No, I think he’s scum. I’m just giving Scotty a hard time. I think I did say Speeds counted scumreads were NAI but maybe that was a similar situation with another player.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Didn't that literally just happen with me.... ?

yeah and i guess it was cool and everything but like.... it seems like a lot of the time now people get lynched now after just like not being around

i miss the whole "hey don't lynch me, heres some reasons why i'm good and also heeres some reasons to lynch this other guy instead" thing, i miss the 90's

how am i supposed to know who's reacting to dying properly without them showing up to reactt

@novaselinenever @speedchuck @Jackofhearts2005

what're u doing

I’m clearly good. The only argument against me was that I wasn’t doing a lot of hunting and when I start? Scotty and TH think I’m suddenly bad?

Pff.

TH is wrong. It’s fine. Scotty is maybe bad or maybe wrong. Don’t really care atm. He’s my 3rd or 4th top scumread. My 1 and 2 are on the chopping block so I’ll figure Scotty out later.

[speedchuck]

Didn't that literally just happen with me.... ?

yeah and i guess it was cool and everything but like.... it seems like a lot of the time now people get lynched now after just like not being around

i miss the whole "hey don't lynch me, heres some reasons why i'm good and also heeres some reasons to lynch this other guy instead" thing, i miss the 90's

how am i supposed to know who's reacting to dying properly without them showing up to reactt

@novaselinenever @speedchuck @Jackofhearts2005

what're u doing

A tabletop gaming birthday party

[speedchuck]

Holy goodness I'm getting lynched all of a sudden

[speedchuck]

[VOTE: Jackofhearts] aubergine

Tomorrow my wife has a frisbee game so I'll be around for like all of the final hours

[speedchuck]

I think jack is distancing from nova and maybe speed. Can’t determine yet. I’m now convinced jack is only choosing to be “straight” because he has pressure.

I'm catching up, just so you know

[speedchuck]

I have speed as a town read, if I don't lynch him that makes me look bad

civs don't worry about looking bad, they worry about finding baddies. U Bad wolbre?

This is true and BS at the same time

[speedchuck]

who shot first between speed and jack? what's the timeline

I’ve been saying Speed is bad for the entire game. I just wasn’t trying very hard at being convincing until last night.

Why not?

[speedchuck]

nah dude let's pretend I'm bussing you first

I don’t get lynched but even if I did, I imagine you wouldn’t go after Speed next so that’s a no go.

This is a thing bad Jack says.

Strike 2.

I want to agree. But source?

[speedchuck]

@colonialbob

Tell me why Speedchuck is not a good lynch today.

Because then tomorrow will be LYLO

[speedchuck]

i wanna see what happens if i [vore]speedchuck[/vore]

[speedchuck]

Oh I caught up. Literally nothing has happened. The two things I want to comment on are things I can't comment on. Welp.