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ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:48 pm Golden, how about this: remove the NO U goggles for a second and look at my post about the wide net of targets as it pertains to Scotty. Do you find what I have to say there disagreeable too?
I don’t see any reason for a wide range of targets to suggest badness. Jays stats demonstrate in gth exercises baddies tend to make fewer ‘bad’ reads than civilians, so if anything it’s a rick in the town column for Scotty.

I don’t understand why you perceive many suspects = bad and would like you to expand on this.
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MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:00 pm Spacedaisy: I won't be able to contribute much
Quin and nutella: Bussy bus busface
So you think Daisy is bad after all. :rolleyes:
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
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Quin wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:56 pm Nutella and quin are operating from the same page of the manual. The reasons are weak. Daisy is the sort of person who can fake incredulousness and fury. I think it's viable.

Failing that they are trying to push her to save Scotty.
So the reasons for lynching Scotty are stronger?
Thank you for town confirming him for me.
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MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:02 pm
Quin wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:56 pm Nutella and quin are operating from the same page of the manual. The reasons are weak. Daisy is the sort of person who can fake incredulousness and fury. I think it's viable.

Failing that they are trying to push her to save Scotty.
So the reasons for lynching Scotty are stronger?
Thank you for town confirming him for me.
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Quin wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:00 pm Spacedaisy: I won't be able to contribute much
Quin and nutella: Bussy bus busface
So you think Daisy is bad after all. :rolleyes:
I am analysing what I am seeing and making attempts to connect dots as I am required to do in this type of game.
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Daisy just checked, was your posts from earlier today.

Clearly that feels like a very long time ago to me.
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I don't care about Scotty. He's yellow.
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When the fuck did I say I couldn't contribute much??

I never ever said I wouldn't be contributing much. You are building a completely false narrative here. I've been doing ISO's and playing the game, so where are you getting this idea that I came into a team chat and said I wouldn't be contributing?

I am not being bussed by mafia teammates because I am not mafia.
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Daisy why shouldn’t I vote inh? I still like my vote.

He knows my meta, he knows his past of being unable to read me, but he still goes on a long rant about how things he knows he’s misread about me before make me bad (even though there’s plenty of history that they are just stylistic differences), he votes for me AND blackmails scotty to vote for me all in one post.
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Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:04 pm When the fuck did I say I couldn't contribute much??

I never ever said I wouldn't be contributing much. You are building a completely false narrative here. I've been doing ISO's and playing the game, so where are you getting this idea that I came into a team chat and said I wouldn't be contributing?

I am not being bussed by mafia teammates because I am not mafia.
You said it hypothetically in the hypothetical scum chat I am postulating the existence of.
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Goldeen why are you not Golden?
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Golden wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:06 pm Daisy why shouldn’t I vote inh? I still like my vote.

He knows my meta, he knows his past of being unable to read me, but he still goes on a long rant about how things he knows he’s misread about me before make me bad (even though there’s plenty of history that they are just stylistic differences), he votes for me AND blackmails scotty to vote for me all in one post.
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INH reads like someone who takes issue with someone using meta as a defense. He's not wrong. Meta is a shit reason to be dissuaded to vote from someone. If you know your meta well enough to use it to defend yourself then what's to say you couldn't use it to trick us into thinking you are civ? I think INH is just focusing on the wrong thing. He is focusing on a shit defense, and letting it blind him to your overall tone and behavior. I don't think INH is bad. I think you guys are civ on civ.

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Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:11 pm INH reads like someone who takes issue with someone using meta as a defense. He's not wrong. Meta is a shit reason to be dissuaded to vote from someone. If you know your meta well enough to use it to defend yourself then what's to say you couldn't use it to trick us into thinking you are civ? I think INH is just focusing on the wrong thing. He is focusing on a shit defense, and letting it blind him to your overall tone and behavior. I don't think INH is bad. I think you guys are civ on civ.

Mac: It's ridiculous and wrong. Do better.
I will take your suggestion under advisement but given I have no reason at all to trust you I will take it with a grain of salt and also note that you call it wrong like you know my alignment.
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Epignosis wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:37 pm
sig wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:54 pm Don't like how Epi jumped on Zeph looks bad in my eyes.
And how was that?
It seemed like very weak reasoning and he was an easy place to try to band wagon. :shrug:
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sig wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:13 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:37 pm
sig wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:54 pm Don't like how Epi jumped on Zeph looks bad in my eyes.
And how was that?
It seemed like very weak reasoning and he was an easy place to try to band wagon. :shrug:
You are so bad. Can we please CFD sig?
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nutella wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:53 pm @Kylemii hi are you bad
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sig wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:09 pm Switching to INH his post was blah, but in spirit I'm voting dunya :p


linki: I can't currently discuss matters pertaining to the current phase with the press, but I can direct you to my campaign manager @Turnip Head and he'll answer all your questions.
Both you and [mention]Scotty[/mention] did a flip-flop over to me because of some vaguely perceived weakness in my post. Would either of you care to elaborate on this?
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sig wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:13 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:37 pm
sig wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:54 pm Don't like how Epi jumped on Zeph looks bad in my eyes.
And how was that?
It seemed like very weak reasoning and he was an easy place to try to band wagon. :shrug:
kinda like how you jumped on me?
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what time does day end? is it worth reading the pages I haven't
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insertnamehere wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:16 pm
sig wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:09 pm Switching to INH his post was blah, but in spirit I'm voting dunya :p


linki: I can't currently discuss matters pertaining to the current phase with the press, but I can direct you to my campaign manager @Turnip Head and he'll answer all your questions.
Both you and @Scotty did a flip-flop over to me because of some vaguely perceived weakness in my post. Would either of you care to elaborate on this?
I like the idea that sig is protecting Scotty actually.
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MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:13 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:11 pm INH reads like someone who takes issue with someone using meta as a defense. He's not wrong. Meta is a shit reason to be dissuaded to vote from someone. If you know your meta well enough to use it to defend yourself then what's to say you couldn't use it to trick us into thinking you are civ? I think INH is just focusing on the wrong thing. He is focusing on a shit defense, and letting it blind him to your overall tone and behavior. I don't think INH is bad. I think you guys are civ on civ.

Mac: It's ridiculous and wrong. Do better.
I will take your suggestion under advisement but given I have no reason at all to trust you I will take it with a grain of salt and also note that you call it wrong like you know my alignment.
No, I call it that as someone who has tentatively thought you were town up until now because I liked what I saw from you.
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Golden wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:06 pm Daisy why shouldn’t I vote inh? I still like my vote.

He knows my meta, he knows his past of being unable to read me, but he still goes on a long rant about how things he knows he’s misread about me before make me bad (even though there’s plenty of history that they are just stylistic differences), he votes for me AND blackmails scotty to vote for me all in one post.
this is smug, presumptuous, dismissive nonsense.
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Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:13 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:11 pm INH reads like someone who takes issue with someone using meta as a defense. He's not wrong. Meta is a shit reason to be dissuaded to vote from someone. If you know your meta well enough to use it to defend yourself then what's to say you couldn't use it to trick us into thinking you are civ? I think INH is just focusing on the wrong thing. He is focusing on a shit defense, and letting it blind him to your overall tone and behavior. I don't think INH is bad. I think you guys are civ on civ.

Mac: It's ridiculous and wrong. Do better.
I will take your suggestion under advisement but given I have no reason at all to trust you I will take it with a grain of salt and also note that you call it wrong like you know my alignment.
No, I call it that as someone who has tentatively thought you were town up until now because I liked what I saw from you.
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MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:36 pm I do not wish to contribute to the demise of young Scotty and [insertnamehere].
Agreed. Out of everyone, I have the least amount of interest voting them.
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This is not INH who was scum last game and scum teammates with me two games ago. Not even remotely similar.
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MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:39 pm Nutella and quin have appeared to be a unified thought process in this game but in a non nefarious manner. Individually both have seemed off but if you analyse them as one they are sensible and coherent. It appears as though they are conduits for the voice of the universe. For this reason I am want to trust their judgement.
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Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:11 pm INH reads like someone who takes issue with someone using meta as a defense. He's not wrong. Meta is a shit reason to be dissuaded to vote from someone. If you know your meta well enough to use it to defend yourself then what's to say you couldn't use it to trick us into thinking you are civ? I think INH is just focusing on the wrong thing. He is focusing on a shit defense, and letting it blind him to your overall tone and behavior. I don't think INH is bad. I think you guys are civ on civ.

Mac: It's ridiculous and wrong. Do better.
Meta is the single best defence as long as people refuse to believe meta is irrelevant.

And if you think my ‘overall tone and behaviour’ is not you judging me on my meta you’re misleading yourself.

Why are you so firm on inh? I see no reason that you should be so unequivocal.
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insertnamehere wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:19 pm
Golden wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:06 pm Daisy why shouldn’t I vote inh? I still like my vote.

He knows my meta, he knows his past of being unable to read me, but he still goes on a long rant about how things he knows he’s misread about me before make me bad (even though there’s plenty of history that they are just stylistic differences), he votes for me AND blackmails scotty to vote for me all in one post.
this is smug, presumptuous, dismissive nonsense.
Have you ever called my play anything else?
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Lynch sig please.
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Zephyrus wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:24 am
@lapluie, who do you think is scummy? Answer quick, because I'm getting into loads of trouble.
I am still trying to work out what this means.
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sig wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:13 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:37 pm
sig wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:54 pm Don't like how Epi jumped on Zeph looks bad in my eyes.
And how was that?
It seemed like very weak reasoning and he was an easy place to try to band wagon. :shrug:
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Voted for [mention]Choutas[/mention] where ru
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Epignosis wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:25 pm
Zephyrus wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:24 am
@lapluie, who do you think is scummy? Answer quick, because I'm getting into loads of trouble.
I am still trying to work out what this means.
If u figure it out let me know pls
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Lynch sig. He is bad.
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two thoughts:

this is the most active space daisy that I've seen in many moons and for that reason I feel like trusting her

thought #2, this is also true about INH
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lapluie wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:29 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:25 pm
Zephyrus wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:24 am
@lapluie, who do you think is scummy? Answer quick, because I'm getting into loads of trouble.
I am still trying to work out what this means.
If u figure it out let me know pls
I mean, I've seen crazier slips before.
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I’m 4 pages behind, I don’t know when day ends, I’m in he bathroom break. Why am I still leading
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Why is sig bad?

If I was doing a call for a sudden shift to someone out of focus, I think I’d pick Colin.

Usually I have a lot of players who feel town, this game is opposite.

I won’t vote inh. There’s been some good points made and i tend to think no, on balance, he does remind me more of his town self.

Back to [VOTE: scotty] aubergine for now.
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Scotty wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:33 pm I’m 4 pages behind, I don’t know when day ends, I’m in he bathroom break. Why am I still leading
tldr; save urself
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Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:30 pm two thoughts:

this is the most active space daisy that I've seen in many moons and for that reason I feel like trusting her

thought #2, this is also true about INH
I think Daisy’s defence of inh goes beyond thread knowledge. I dunno whether I svhould trust it or not but for now I am.

Even if it’s not, I’m not sure if daisy would do that when bad.
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Cool, well.

See you in the future.

Last second reads: I’ve mellowed on golden. I haven’t read the last few pages but look at choutas and QUIN who I haven’t mentioned. But he’s tricksy and I don’t remember what he’s said
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lapluie wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:35 pm
Scotty wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:33 pm I’m 4 pages behind, I don’t know when day ends, I’m in he bathroom break. Why am I still leading
tldr; save urself
I guess I’ll read back later if I die and just see who is still perpetuating this train.
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Golden wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:36 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:30 pm two thoughts:

this is the most active space daisy that I've seen in many moons and for that reason I feel like trusting her

thought #2, this is also true about INH
I think Daisy’s defence of inh goes beyond thread knowledge. I dunno whether I svhould trust it or not but for now I am.

Even if it’s not, I’m not sure if daisy would do that when bad.
beyond like.................... roommates?
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I feel INH is bad mainly from his big case post. It sounds contrived
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Golden wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:24 pm
insertnamehere wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:19 pm
Golden wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:06 pm Daisy why shouldn’t I vote inh? I still like my vote.

He knows my meta, he knows his past of being unable to read me, but he still goes on a long rant about how things he knows he’s misread about me before make me bad (even though there’s plenty of history that they are just stylistic differences), he votes for me AND blackmails scotty to vote for me all in one post.
this is smug, presumptuous, dismissive nonsense.
Have you ever called my play anything else?
Yes.

You're putting forth this idea that my perspective is permanently warped when it comes to you, and that any opinion I may have on you should be instantly disregarded. You're trying to make all of my concerns about you seem meta-based in an attempt to discredit and lynch me. It's fuckin' scummy, and I'm not gonna disregard my suspicion of you because of one game (where you were an indie serial killer) where I incorrectly suspected you over POE-related shenanigans.

It seems like you perceive this so-called bias only in games where I suspect you, and not in games that we play together where I don't (of which there have been several).
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Scotty wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:37 pm I feel INH is bad mainly from his big case post. It sounds contrived
Explain this bullshit, pls
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Who am I voting to save myself then, lap?

Mac seems to want to CFD dog :shrug:

I dunno guys, I don’t feel strongly there either way
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Lunalee wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:57 pm
Scotty wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:41 am
Zephyrus wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:24 am
Scotty wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:40 am
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Scotty wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:48 pm
Zephyrus wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:18 pm Yeah. I'm never any good on day one. :p
I guess it's time to work on that, though.
What do you base your D1 votes on?
Well, I normally do an initial lynch on people to get them talking, and then I'll vote for the person who seems scummiest or whose lynch will yield the most information.
Choutas wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:51 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:43 pm Yeah I don't suspect zephyrus but if y'all wanna bite Epi's bait I'm watching :beer:
Why don't you suspect him? Wasn't that a weird ass post? I posted the same thing as scum last game and everybody called my bullshit.
He's suss as sin.
I've explained that I was busy with exams. All I did was make a post hyping up the thread and showing that I'm alive. It's hardly suss as sin. :suspish:
And, if you're talking about me voting lapluie, read above.
lapluie wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:37 pm Wow could you at least @ me if ur gonna lynch me zyph thx
Sorry. :p
I normally do an initial lynch on people to get them talking
I lol’d. Good one, even though I’m sure this isn’t a joke.

Do you feel like your lynch of lapluie is getting him talking? Right now it appears that you ordered Haricots Verts with the expectation of cake and when the green beans show up you just nod and continue patiently waiting on your cake.
I just thought I'd give them a little more time. Chill.
@lapluie, who do you think is scummy? Answer quick, because I'm getting into loads of trouble.
I’m chilling, I have a fan blowing on my feet

Also what does it mean to vote for someone on D1 that will yield the most information? That’s a catch-all reasoning, because lynching anyone yields the most information. We have no information.

I don’t believe that you actually care about what lapluie has to say. By your own admission, you have no suspects.

Might want to at least look at some more people, ZMan (can I call you ZMan?)
I'm going to [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine, just because he seems too eager to back Zephyrus into a corner over his Lapluie vote.
This was lunas last recent post, I don't really like it, didn't contribute to much other than facts about why Scotty is digging at zeph, was it that much of an obvious case for her that one is convinced Scotty is bad? Idunno I have a bad feeling
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