Retrocausality Mafia - ENDGAME: A Reprieve in the Desert

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Lap] aubergine for now.

I wanna hear from you!

[Golden]

I feel like one of the doctors should protect me in the next night phase tbh. Just a request.

[Kylemii]

God damn it

what theme are you using? why is it baby blue

[Kylemii]

@Spacedaisy you voted for me earlier, and don't believe TH's claim then why wouldn't you just assume that i am also lying and TH's teammate

I can see a baddie team putting one player at risk, that is acceptable. I can't see them putting two people at risk for the same lie. I find TH less believable.

alright thank you, that makes sense.

[Kylemii]

um.... do we know what the elections actually do

[Golden]

um.... do we know what the elections actually do

I guess if sig was still here...

He got given the 'quill and wig' but we don't know what that means.

[Spacedaisy]

Nope. And Golden, after a second read through I could be mistaken in what I thought I saw about Epi. I could see it the way I thought or the way everyone else seems to have accepted that it was.

[MacDougall]

I feel like one of the doctors should protect me in the next night phase tbh. Just a request.

Nah Scotty gets the grease.

[Golden]

Nope. And Golden, after a second read through I could be mistaken in what I thought I saw about Epi. I could see it the way I thought or the way everyone else seems to have accepted that it was.

I go back and forth on Epi. I do believe usually that his "Epi tells" are mixed in with more regular scum finding, and the latter is lacking here. But there are some things he does which feel very town.

[Quin]

um.... do we know what the elections actually do

I guess if sig was still here...

He got given the 'quill and wig' but we don't know what that means.

if you voted for me i'd have told you

which reminds me

@sig are you going to lead us through this shit or what dude. what do you have for us?

Nothing!

Though for real I've gotta go to the gym then I'll be back and get serious and do some real game solving.

Can't go into detail on what the Quill did, but it basically added something to one of my abilities.

My guess is each time we elect someone it either gives them an extra ability or arguments a current one. So smh y'all should've taken that election more serious last night, try to act less like American voters and more like idk voters from a responsible country.

bullshit

[Golden]

Yeah sig was full of shit.

I campaigned for scotty for good reason.

[lapluie]

Ok who voted for me, coffees

[lapluie]

Ok who voted for me, confess *

[Golden]

Ok who voted for me, coffees

I haven’t yet, but what’s a good reason not to?

[lapluie]

@lapluie Can you give me your opinion on the following people:

TurnipHead
Kylemii
ColinisCool
Choutas
Lunalee
insertnamehere

Is there anything that you've seen that stands out to you?

Reading their post histories starting with turnip & downwards
~I feel like his posts aren't game related just a bunch of jibberjabber about random topics that have no contributions to the game whatsoever, pretty monotonous read. (If I'm wrong pls correct me sorry if I've offended you turnip).
~has put in thought & opinions, good read from kyle to be honest, he seems genuine. Have no bad feeling about him.
~he's fun to play mafia with when he's drunk & sober, mostly drunk. good guy... sometimes... still vague to read it's either good or bad. His posts give me the same opinion like last game, idk if it's a good or bad thing help.
~churro boi!! He's too quiet, pls post more & give more thought, I think he's capable of doing more but he seems reserved, his posts indicate some WiFi trouble & request a replacement so idunno, neutral!!
~good stuff, but some reason I feel like she's hiding something or is too worried to say but overall , neutral
~that long as heck weird font essay convinced me he's town..
that is all ... thanks

[lapluie]

Ok who voted for me, coffees

I haven’t yet, but what’s a good reason not to?

That is a very good question.

[lapluie]

[VOTE: Lap] aubergine for now.

I wanna hear from you!

AGAIN?? ... Im habimgastrok

[lapluie]

This is not a real vote but I always default for Choutas to see who voted who sorry

[Spacedaisy]

@lapluie Can you give me your opinion on the following people:

TurnipHead
Kylemii
ColinisCool
Choutas
Lunalee
insertnamehere

Is there anything that you've seen that stands out to you?

Reading their post histories starting with turnip & downwards
~I feel like his posts aren't game related just a bunch of jibberjabber about random topics that have no contributions to the game whatsoever, pretty monotonous read. (If I'm wrong pls correct me sorry if I've offended you turnip).
~has put in thought & opinions, good read from kyle to be honest, he seems genuine. Have no bad feeling about him.
~he's fun to play mafia with when he's drunk & sober, mostly drunk. good guy... sometimes... still vague to read it's either good or bad. His posts give me the same opinion like last game, idk if it's a good or bad thing help.
~churro boi!! He's too quiet, pls post more & give more thought, I think he's capable of doing more but he seems reserved, his posts indicate some WiFi trouble & request a replacement so idunno, neutral!!
~good stuff, but some reason I feel like she's hiding something or is too worried to say but overall , neutral
~that long as heck weird font essay convinced me he's town..
that is all ... thanks

Thanks lapluie!

[Spacedaisy]

This is not a real vote but I always default for Choutas to see who voted who sorry

Why is Choutas this go to default vote?

[Golden]

A brief Luna/sig interactive iso. Luna has a total of 19 posts before Quin dropped his bombshell, including:

Spoiler: show

@sig , what's with that "poker face" smiley you keep using?

@sig , @Quin , if you're going to self-vote, at least give us a good reason to support you or not.

Night is half over and I'm missing a loooooot of night actions.

Never submit night actions that's my policy. Why hide your actions? I never do I'll tell you straight up what I plan to do. Which is why a vote for sig is a vote for open night actions. No more hiding no more fear no more control. Vote Sig a player you can trust.

Sig, your campaigning is gold. I'm voting for you. I believe I can count on you to sign that Bill of Rights with the most beautiful signature

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Haha, bravo sig.

These quotes account for my 'gut feel' of luna being a teammate of sig. They have a 'team banter' vibe to them.

After Quin's bombshell, Luna's next two posts are:

Spoiler: show

Either way the idea of lynching me since I said I couldn't be lynched doesn't seem townie.

And this is complete bullshit

I called your bluff and now you're worried.

Glad I called it.

I think there's a decent chance you are a baddie who gains in power over time, and you're trying to delay being lynched for some reason. You've made claims of being indestructible and said you weren't worried about your campaign putting a target on your back for that reason. You said you weren't worried about being lynched because you won't be lynched. But I can smell the fear on your breath from here.

This is what I was thinking. It might be safest to lynch sig.

Wait, why are you folks lynching sig? I need to catch up.

That's a very strange backtrack.

And then we get this progression:

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

Sig is your apparent inability to be lynched literally just today that it won't work?

Oh it'll work whenever I want, but it would be a waste for it to be used today. I won't have enough time in this timeline to make it worthwhile basically.

Sig are you a civilian? Yes or no?

If you are a civilian what will be the outcome of lynching you today? Is the outcome positive or negative? Why?

If you are a civilian does your continued existence beyond day 3 reap any benefit to the civilian cause?

Yes

there's no outcome of lynching me today since it won't happen but if it did it would be negative since you'd loose a civ, but there wouldn't be some cataclysmic event

yes in the sense that I'd be here to post and engage. However, it's not like some role actives if I'm alive after day 3.

Also I think y'all might've read a little bit to deep into my d/n 1 posts.

So if we attempt to lynch you today, it just fails? Or it redirects? Does the second person get lynched instead? What do you expect the outcome to be? Just your continued existence and a fart video?

So you are saying that all of your role stops being relevant come day 3?

If you are a civilian then us wasting a lynch on you here is a bad idea. Given we have several other people who have role claimed, perhaps the civilian duty you have here is to actually just enlighten us as to what it is that you do?

1. Everything resets and I leave you all for a better land BUT I wouldn't have been lynched.

2. No my role is relevant until I use it

3. I told you I can't be lynched that's my role power.

IF you try you fail and the timeline will be disrupted resulting in chaos. Or that's the theory anyway.

Also just to be clear if you tried to lynhc me day 3 it would also fail, but it would've been the optimal time for me to active my power. Or that's what I thought at first.

I don't really want to lynch sig today. I didn't know quite what to think of his claims earlier, but now I feel like he's being genuine.

Also, I thought it was basically confirmed that INH was third-party. Is that a problem for town? Why is he tied with sig? I feel like we can do better than this.

Let's do something more fun.

sig and INH are Booker DeWitt and Comstock. That is to say, both have been swept away by the Luteces. They're not here.

Who gets your vote and why?

Yes, I want to step away from the sig and INH drama. I feel it is distracting us from actually getting a scum lynch. Didn't Quin start this whole thing? I don't know if I want to keep Quin around. I feel like he introduced a class-A distraction to get suspicions off of his team.

I think potentially the worst look in here is 'I feel like we can do better than this' when we've been presented with a potential 50/50 shot. What's the size of the team - 3 or 4? So you'd have no more than a 25% shot the rest of the time...

Then:

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine [citation]

and

I'm going to put my vote on INH because I don't like how defensive he got about his role. But that makes a tie between him and sig. Ugh.

It's worth noting that last post is AFTER sig triggered the event but before it took place.

Looking through Luna's iso as a whole, I tend to find that she is team compatible with sig, and that's where my vote is going for now.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

[ColinIsCool]

Mac, I proved myself to him. It had nothing to do with his role.

Golden, I was starting to worry about you.

How is this in any way accurate when he explicitly implied that you alignment claimed in some way that only he could tell?

I'm sick of being made to feel like I am being irrational when people keep doing things like this. The list of people actually applying rationalisation in this game is as short as Epi's penis.

Lmaoooooooooooo

[ColinIsCool]

I feel kinda weird about how spirited Kyle’s defense of Turbup is, in that I can’t decide whether it absolutely rules them out as teammates or absolutely presents that to be the case.

[ColinIsCool]

I’ll try to reassess Luna and some others today. Imo the worst thing in that ISO is that backtrack.

[MacDougall]

I feel kinda weird about how spirited Kyle’s defense of Turbup is, in that I can’t decide whether it absolutely rules them out as teammates or absolutely presents that to be the case.

Get off the fence and make a call. What does your heart say?

[ColinIsCool]

I feel kinda weird about how spirited Kyle’s defense of Turbup is, in that I can’t decide whether it absolutely rules them out as teammates or absolutely presents that to be the case.

Get off the fence and make a call. What does your heart say?

Not teammates. For now.

[ColinIsCool]

I think there have to be liars on this list.

Colin - Poll Predictor (gets extra vote)
Turnip Head - Indie Poll Predictor (wincon)
Golden - looks for Scotty
Scotty - doc
Epignosis - doc
MacDougall - doc
Quin - stump
Sig - lynch resetter (consensus scum?)
Insertnamehere - some kind of Indie

Am I missing anybody’s claim so far?

[MacDougall]

I think there have to be liars on this list.

Colin - Poll Predictor (gets extra vote)
Turnip Head - Indie Poll Predictor (wincon)
Golden - looks for Scotty
Scotty - doc
Epignosis - doc
MacDougall - doc
Quin - stump
Sig - lynch resetter (consensus scum?)
Insertnamehere - some kind of Indie

Am I missing anybody’s claim so far?

Epi revoked his claim. The rest seem relatively normal to me.

[ColinIsCool]

I think there have to be liars on this list.

Colin - Poll Predictor (gets extra vote)
Turnip Head - Indie Poll Predictor (wincon)
Golden - looks for Scotty
Scotty - doc
Epignosis - doc
MacDougall - doc
Quin - stump
Sig - lynch resetter (consensus scum?)
Insertnamehere - some kind of Indie

Am I missing anybody’s claim so far?

Epi revoked his claim. The rest seem relatively normal to me.

GTH, is Epi scum?

[Epignosis]

I feel like one of the doctors should protect me in the next night phase tbh. Just a request.

Sorry. I already targeted you last Night.

[Epignosis]

Ok who voted for me, coffees

[Scotty]

I feel like one of the doctors should protect me in the next night phase tbh. Just a request.

Nah Scotty gets the grease.

I got me covered!

[Lunalee]

A brief Luna/sig interactive iso. Luna has a total of 19 posts before Quin dropped his bombshell, including:

Spoiler: show

@sig , what's with that "poker face" smiley you keep using?

@sig , @Quin , if you're going to self-vote, at least give us a good reason to support you or not.

Night is half over and I'm missing a loooooot of night actions.

Never submit night actions that's my policy. Why hide your actions? I never do I'll tell you straight up what I plan to do. Which is why a vote for sig is a vote for open night actions. No more hiding no more fear no more control. Vote Sig a player you can trust.

Sig, your campaigning is gold. I'm voting for you. I believe I can count on you to sign that Bill of Rights with the most beautiful signature

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Haha, bravo sig.

These quotes account for my 'gut feel' of luna being a teammate of sig. They have a 'team banter' vibe to them.

After Quin's bombshell, Luna's next two posts are:

Spoiler: show

Either way the idea of lynching me since I said I couldn't be lynched doesn't seem townie.

And this is complete bullshit

I called your bluff and now you're worried.

Glad I called it.

I think there's a decent chance you are a baddie who gains in power over time, and you're trying to delay being lynched for some reason. You've made claims of being indestructible and said you weren't worried about your campaign putting a target on your back for that reason. You said you weren't worried about being lynched because you won't be lynched. But I can smell the fear on your breath from here.

This is what I was thinking. It might be safest to lynch sig.

Wait, why are you folks lynching sig? I need to catch up.

That's a very strange backtrack.

And then we get this progression:

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

Sig is your apparent inability to be lynched literally just today that it won't work?

Oh it'll work whenever I want, but it would be a waste for it to be used today. I won't have enough time in this timeline to make it worthwhile basically.

Sig are you a civilian? Yes or no?

If you are a civilian what will be the outcome of lynching you today? Is the outcome positive or negative? Why?

If you are a civilian does your continued existence beyond day 3 reap any benefit to the civilian cause?

Yes

there's no outcome of lynching me today since it won't happen but if it did it would be negative since you'd loose a civ, but there wouldn't be some cataclysmic event

yes in the sense that I'd be here to post and engage. However, it's not like some role actives if I'm alive after day 3.

Also I think y'all might've read a little bit to deep into my d/n 1 posts.

So if we attempt to lynch you today, it just fails? Or it redirects? Does the second person get lynched instead? What do you expect the outcome to be? Just your continued existence and a fart video?

So you are saying that all of your role stops being relevant come day 3?

If you are a civilian then us wasting a lynch on you here is a bad idea. Given we have several other people who have role claimed, perhaps the civilian duty you have here is to actually just enlighten us as to what it is that you do?

1. Everything resets and I leave you all for a better land BUT I wouldn't have been lynched.

2. No my role is relevant until I use it

3. I told you I can't be lynched that's my role power.

IF you try you fail and the timeline will be disrupted resulting in chaos. Or that's the theory anyway.

Also just to be clear if you tried to lynhc me day 3 it would also fail, but it would've been the optimal time for me to active my power. Or that's what I thought at first.

I don't really want to lynch sig today. I didn't know quite what to think of his claims earlier, but now I feel like he's being genuine.

Also, I thought it was basically confirmed that INH was third-party. Is that a problem for town? Why is he tied with sig? I feel like we can do better than this.

Let's do something more fun.

sig and INH are Booker DeWitt and Comstock. That is to say, both have been swept away by the Luteces. They're not here.

Who gets your vote and why?

Yes, I want to step away from the sig and INH drama. I feel it is distracting us from actually getting a scum lynch. Didn't Quin start this whole thing? I don't know if I want to keep Quin around. I feel like he introduced a class-A distraction to get suspicions off of his team.

I think potentially the worst look in here is 'I feel like we can do better than this' when we've been presented with a potential 50/50 shot. What's the size of the team - 3 or 4? So you'd have no more than a 25% shot the rest of the time...

Then:

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine [citation]

and

I'm going to put my vote on INH because I don't like how defensive he got about his role. But that makes a tie between him and sig. Ugh.

It's worth noting that last post is AFTER sig triggered the event but before it took place.

Looking through Luna's iso as a whole, I tend to find that she is team compatible with sig, and that's where my vote is going for now.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

Hi Golden. This is an excellent review of my posts. For some reason I completely forgot what was going on with sig when I hoped back in here and saw he was being lynched. My bad. I should have read my own posts it seems. Despite that misunderstanding, I want to clarify that if sig and I were mafia teammates in this game, I would have distanced myself from this whole Quin-sig-INH drama. And I would not have so openly posted my opinions on the matter. My scum-strategy when suspicion is being thrown on a teammate is to quietly step away.

[speedchuck]

Day ends in 11 hours and ten minutes.

[Lunalee]

I would lynch either lapluie or INH. I stand by my Zeph thing and lapluie is tied to that. INH needs to work on his script. Also, I don't think he's a civilian. He called himself "not a threat to the civilians" and no amount of shit he can throw at me in his script means that's the same thing as addressing the civilians in the third person. He called himself "not a threat to the civilians."

Really? That long INH post sort of convinced me that even if he's not town, he at least has a townie win-con.

[Lunalee]

Do we really think there are three town-aligned doctors in this game?

nah

This bothers me too. Wasn't it MacDougal, Scotty, and Epi? One of them may get my vote today.

[speedchuck]

Choutas has requested replacement.

[speedchuck]

Sprityo has replaced Choutas

[sprityo]

Take a fuckin sip, babes. I’m here

[ColinIsCool]

Do we really think there are three town-aligned doctors in this game?

nah

This bothers me too. Wasn't it MacDougal, Scotty, and Epi? One of them may get my vote today.

It looks like Epignosis walked back his claim as trying to attract a night kill

[sprityo]

I think there have to be liars on this list.

Colin - Poll Predictor (gets extra vote)
Turnip Head - Indie Poll Predictor (wincon)
Golden - looks for Scotty
Scotty - doc
Epignosis - doc
MacDougall - doc
Quin - stump
Sig - lynch resetter (consensus scum?)
Insertnamehere - some kind of Indie

Am I missing anybody’s claim so far?

What in the fuck is this? What kind of madman has three doctors in a game?

[ColinIsCool]

I think there have to be liars on this list.

Colin - Poll Predictor (gets extra vote)
Turnip Head - Indie Poll Predictor (wincon)
Golden - looks for Scotty
Scotty - doc
Epignosis - doc
MacDougall - doc
Quin - stump
Sig - lynch resetter (consensus scum?)
Insertnamehere - some kind of Indie

Am I missing anybody’s claim so far?

What in the fuck is this? What kind of madman has three doctors in a game?

It might make more sense if you start at the beginning.

[sprityo]

So I’m placing into a guy with little content under heavy suspicion, God’s why do I hate myself.


Let me get something tangible for you monsters to consume

Linki: this is the beginning. Might you be referencing the future?

[Golden]

I’ll try to reassess Luna and some others today. Imo the worst thing in that ISO is that backtrack.

Yeah that is the worst bit I agree.

[Golden]

Also, I kinda love that Luna’s choice to defend herself to me is a meta argument.

How did Luna handle her teammates in u pick, anyone?

[Epignosis]

Do we really think there are three town-aligned doctors in this game?

nah

This bothers me too. Wasn't it MacDougal, Scotty, and Epi? One of them may get my vote today.

It looks like Epignosis walked back his claim as trying to attract a night kill

I officially suspect Lunalee for that post. "One of them may get my vote today" is a way of leaving her options open without specifying a preference for any one of us.

[sprityo]

I think given Quin has apparently got some role that allows him to check if two players are aligned, and he saw fit to infodump it on day 2, that he is pretty confident it won't result in his demise which as per my reaction what Golden did confuses me greatly and makes me feel even more uninformed, but given one is the person day one me was most confident was bad and the other is the person day one me was most confident was town I'm going to be leaving my vote on sig all damn day and nobody is going to tell me otherwise.

starting at day 2, this is the first interesting thing ive seen, i want to follow up on this if it didnt get properly addressed.

Scientist: You may select two players. You will learn if the players are aligned or not

I had this role in Phenon but nachomamma sadly got killed before he could use it.

[sprityo]

to follow up what i just posted, to toss in my two cents.

independents are basically guaranteed in this game, otherwise it wouldnt be fun. on top of that, it makes the Scientist role more reasonable if quin is as he says (or from what i've gathered mac had said just then) i havent gone back to see what quin ACTUALLY "claimed"

[sprityo]

woah woah woah who said anything about this being my role

i've already roleclaimed

honestly i have no fuckin idea how cool the rest of the town's roles are comparatively but mine seems pretty damn cool so let me live a few days k

i'm a stump.

this is incidentally probably why nutella was vanished last night by the way

nevermind, now i am confusion

[sprityo]

Sig - it wasn’t a message. Quin said he’s giving it a Quin 100% reliability.

I keep going back and forth on what I think about Colin. Today pings me all over again.

is this serious? if so how does that make it actually reliable?